Spiritual heroin- metamphetamine

[mccoy]

This is some insight I had from reading books where some of the characters get addicted to drugs.

From the many recounts we hear:

heroin= artificial paradise. The mind is hurled into a state of aloofness and detachment (until the paradise becomes hell)

meth = unvincibility and exhilaration: the mind is hurled in a state of positiveness, utter lack of concern, unvicnibility (until the brain is ruined).

Now, we know that traditional neuroscience support the materialism of the consciousness, that is, consciousness is driven by physical and chemical reaction into the brain. That's not exact as we now. However, it is a fact that merely physical impulses do have an effect on our consciousness, such as pain, pleasure, stress, and so on.

My thought: if chemicals like drugs can have such a significant effect on our mind, thru chemical reactions into the body and brain, we, as main operators and masters of our own brain, should be able to actuate some switch into such organ and attain the same states of heavenly aloofness and unvincibility, without the negative effects.

I'm convinced it can be done, of course HOW to do that is the crucial issue. Our consciousness is usually identified with the body and compenetrates it, by the main nervous system. Our consciousness uses the brain as a pilot of a cybernetic sapceship would use his ship.

Right now I'm not talking about not feeling pain and so on, I'm just talking about establishing the right attitude and imperviousness to external stimuli.

[SpiritImage]

It probably can and has been done, there might be those that can induce all kinds of altered states. I suppose if you try hard enough at anything, you might just get it.

[mccoy]

SI, I agree with your thoughts, the point being: how?

I've written some things which I won't repeat here in the other forum:

 http://www.yoganandaji.org/board/showthread.php?t=8835

What I'm goign to try now, is changing my mental framework. I'm not happy at all with my present one.

The concept is basically ridiculously simple: suppose I wake up one day and think "I'm overweight; I also have small arms; I also tire too early if I try running". I 'll start dieting, liftign weights and running to improve my physical frame.

I suppose the same goes with the mental framework. My short term goal is to develop invincibility (methamphetamyne) and aloofness (heroin).
Some mental exercise of visualization and affirmation may be a start.

I'll try and think about something else.

[SpiritImage]

Well the 'how' is just determination, practice, research, and full belief that you will succeed.

Some people can be very dangerous. Bruce Lee was one such a man.

[mccoy]

Well the 'how' is just determination, practice, research, and full belief that you will succeed.

Definitely so, but effective pocedures would be welcome. My basic idea is that, since mental states can be pretty easily altered by external signals like chemicals, it should be even easier to do from the inside.

Unless mental traits and personality dwell in the brain. I tend to deny that, even though of course when the astral and causal brains overlap on the physical, connections are created which exchange signals both ways. So, a damage in the physical brain can alter the functions of the astral and causal ones. That's the price paid for identification with the body (and the mind-personality= ego).

[mccoy]

Some people can be very dangerous. Bruce Lee was one such a man.

Yes, that's what I'm speaking about, after having read the picture posted by you.

Defeat is a state of mind = mental state, a quality of our ego and the causal body

No one is ever defeated  until defeat has been accepted as a reality= the sould in unvincible, cannot be defeated. Once we accept defeat we identify with the material body and loose the powers deriving from the awareness of the soul

Bruce Lee was an example of successful manipulation of mental states, specifically unvincibility. He was able to achieve the same effect of meth without the negative, destructive effects. Such a mental state was reinforced by his actual invincibility in martial art and streetfighting events, creating a resonant loop.

There heve been rumours of use of Marijuana in his latest years, but they are not confirmed by official sources.

[SpiritImage]

Definitely so, but effective pocedures would be welcome.

I think it's all very individual. I think you have to find the right methods (for just about everything) that work for you. Lee tried to move to Jeet Kune Do, that sort of individualized training, but still:

"Jeet Kune Do implied specific parameters that styles connote; whereas the idea of his martial art was to exist outside of parameters and limitations"

[mccoy]

The interesting thing about Bruce Lee is that he was a Streetfighter. There are some Vicious persons in that ruthless environment and being able to predominate is not so easy. MArtial arts in the gym and in the streets is pretty different, although the gym may be a preparation to the Street. The Street is ruthless usually.