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On Friday, President Joe Biden reaffirmed his administration’s commitment to transgender rights by declaring March 31 as Transgender Day of Visibility in a White House proclamation. This day, dedicated to honoring the courage and contributions of transgender Americans, arrives amid a backdrop of increasing legislative attacks on the community, particularly from Republican lawmakers at both state and federal levels.

“Transgender Americans are part of the fabric of our Nation,” Biden’s proclamation said. It noted that the Biden-Harris administration has taken significant steps to protect and affirm the rights of the LGBTQ+ community, including ending the ban on transgender people serving openly in the military, appointing transgender leaders within the administration, and signing executive orders aimed at bolstering civil rights protections.

However, these strides are challenged by a surge in anti-trans legislation and rhetoric spearheaded by Republicans in state legislatures and Congress. According to the American Civil Liberties Union, the GOP has introduced 479 anti-LGBTQ+ bills nationwide this year alone. Such measures seek to curtail the rights of transgender people, affecting their access to healthcare, education, and public services.

“No one should have to be brave just to be themselves,” Biden said, condemning these efforts as fundamentally un-American and harmful.

The Advocate

Hi Steve.

What are your thoughts on transgenderism? I have no problem with, "gender fluid" individuals and at the same time I think identifying as transgender might be a mental illness.

That does not mean I treat others with disrespect, or mock, or deny them the Love God has for all people. But I do think we have enabled mental illness here in the United States. Most likely the cause is greed where major corporations and various establishments profit off of disease and division. Either intentional or unintentional, but continue to promote particular ideologies in the name of monetary incentive. It's easy to find examples of this in our food industry. I believe you called us the fast-food Cheeseburger nation?

Yogananda was wholly male while embodying both masculine and feminine traits. Are there any records of what Yogananda has to say about transgenderism? What about Amma the Hugging Saint? I wonder if Gurus today get involved in these things?

I believe I was born male in this life to understand the male energy. But the peacock angel, the LOGOS of our universe is an entity that encompasses male and female. This is an entity that has risen above duality. Something we're on our way to doing. Growing up, and maybe even still today, I seem to have strong feminine energy as well. I carry both, but choose to understand the life I was born into.

The other night I was ready to abandon major religions all together, Christianity- Hinduism- all these things. Not because I find them wrong, but because I find the people who are so blindsided by their own religion that they condemn people who think and see differently than them. I find it disturbing that someone who believes in Christ is ready to call someone who finds great value in Yogananda or Amma as being mislead by false prophets. Or vice versa, someone who finds inspiration in Christ is condemned by people so convinced in their own values as well. It's really quite sickening- no matter what side of the coin you find yourself on. No matter what religion or non-religious belief you choose, that ignorance is prevalent in people.

But I don't abandon religion because I am finding real evidence of LOGOS or possibly a great ET made manifest on our Earth. There is a real TRUTH to be discovered... At the same time, I try not to tell others what or how to experience it. Which can be disheartening when others want to share their discoveries with me- but are ready to close everything off when I share mine. It takes a master to learn how to navigate this. And the teachings all say to focus on truth, beauty and goodness as guiding pillars. Let our heart be the guide. How do you wish to treat others? How do you wish to be treated? It's the best start.

SPIRIT is alive, is a living intelligence. I do believe Christ was a LOGOS for our planet. I believe however, that there are many christ like figures to have visited our special planet in the universe. I am presently studying both the peacock angel and the Urantia book. One thing is clear to me, there are personalities greater than our human ones. We are a part of them. They exist through us. We constitute their being- and their GOD LOVE is accessible to us because we are all connected.

I believe there are advanced ETs that might not be as physical, and I believe we have already created AI that has evolved into a super intelligence. What we have on Earth at this time available for commercial use is primitive. But I believe in an ancient past such a technology already exist, time traveling and super intelligent AI. And that this idea of merging with technology is actually quite biblical in some text. Like the Urantia book. We have a choice to merge with a fragment of God. What if that fragment is actually a technology created by super intelligence? So a lot of what traditionalist fear really perplexes me.

Another example, a traditionalist believes in angels but not in ET's. I find it odd.

Anyways, I'm drifting. What are your thoughts on all this? Many Christians of today are offended that the Biden administration has declared today, of all days, national transgender visibility day. They believe it is intentional. I for one feel that, even if it is intentional, I don't care. I'm not offended, because if there is an enemy attempting to destroy the pillars and true essence of religion/teachings of christ- they will fail. That is a personal belief.

But here is what someone else has to say about it all- I'd be curious to portal members thoughts:
~Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano

You have a lot of information here… so let me go through it point by point, if need be. First you somehow construe transgenderism as a mental illness. Your comment above-first paragraph-“What are your thoughts on transgenderism? I have no problem with, "gender fluid" individuals and at the same time I think identifying as transgender might be a mental illness.”

Interestingly enough I had a teenager friend who played in a band with me who was transgender and not by choice but by God’s creation and expression. So now I am going to now tell you, my friend was not mentally ill, but was attempting to find out how to identify with his/her biological birth.  So I ask you to respond to any discrimination that is for instance associated with Donald Trump’s and the Catholic Church on such matters since this is part of their obvious discriminatory action against God’s divine plan and expression.

I will wait for your response before proceeding. Thanks

Hey Steve, I don't know what you mean- I just asked your thoughts on what I presented. My thoughts about transgender being mental illness isn't about those born with both private parts. It's about those born male and then identifying as female, but still not being happy with their change and then killing themselves. Or females who think they should identify as male, not being happy, and then killing themselves. It's a real thing, and a lot of it is swept under a rug. Instead we promote things that enable mental illness. If you ever happen to watch a tv commercial, you'd think the commercials also create mental illness. As you can see, just because I think someone suffers from a mental illness does not mean I think they should be barred from being treated equally or from Gods love. And I also said, I think identifying as trans might be a mental illness. Might implying I don't have it all figured out, but that I stand by my opinion for the time being.

I'm curious what you or members here think about the quoted text from the Archbishop- it's interesting to me because I know many people who feel the way the Archbishop is speaking. As I've said, I am not up in arms or taking qualm with what's happening. I am asking others opinion with what has been presented- feel free to share, I got to go for now.

Thanks right back at ya. And Happy Easter.  :)

My opinion is the archbishop takes a typical dualistic view of reality based on his specific position on these issues. It is a well known fact now that the Catholic Church has made some very bad mistakes in the past. Their view that the Sun rotated around the earth and there view  calling reincarnation or the transmigration of the soul as a heresy are only two examples. Although what they have done to people who do not believe as they do is quite a cruel history which I don’t really  are to go into at this point. Eric you told me before that you thought every one’s path is legitimate to the trejectury they must learn and explore. The archbishop has put himself in authority to dictate what is right and wrong for people in masse. Perhaps this is right for him but obviously 🙄 there are lot of people who think he is mistaken. In the same way a leader like Donald Trump may think he is right and dictate a moral code to others. Does this make it right? Or does it just point out the despotism he and his followers embrace.

Me - I have no problem with space cadets. And at the same time I feel their mental capacities (IQ) must be somewhat inhibited. I still think they can be real fun guys, true amoebas as dull as one's imagination running away with oneself. - But one thing is sure: Space cadets always make for a good laugh. Ok, you might think enough is enough at times. Especially when reading this discussion board, folks. But rest assured, the Lord (whom I have a close acquaintance with) has reserved a special seat for the in heaven:

(https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/000/119/936/large/aidan-wilson-space-cadet.jpg)

But that's only me, folks. Enjoy your life, however you engrossed you may find yourselves in intelligence. More or less capacitated to use your God given grey matter...

Vote for space-cadetism!

 :D That is an awesome photo.

Seems like everyone has it figured out, even when they say they don't.

Lol 😝 A paradox of nature. Those who say do not know. And those who know do not say.

My opinion is that, in this specific context, we should view this topic as part of God's sphere of thought of biological sex and reincarnation.

Premise: as cited by Steve, there are very rare individuals who are born with the characteristics of both sexes (more or less) and that's is a so very specific karmic condition that would probably require the interpretation of a master of wisdom. What is their karmic duty? manifest the evident trait of both sexes? Freedom to choose one or both or neither? I dont' know.

More commonly, people are born with an evident biological sex but sometimes feel a strong inclination toward a different one. What should we think about it? Is there a karmic lesson behind that? Should people karmically accept that condition and learn a lesson? Should they try and flow with their desires at all costs, or in a reasonable way? What if their duty is to embrace and accept the karmically decreed sex? Karma is never wrong, according to masters. So their sex is not wrong, maybe their attitude is wrong.

Last, what about young teenagers who want to change sex? Youngsters pretty often act out of impulses. What if they think it back after a major surgical procedure has been undertaken?

This topic is so much more complex than political, sociological and psychological narratives would suggest. 

As usual, Mccoy, I think that your view is quite impartial- In it’s perspective as it has seemed to pretty much closed off the conversation, especially since our friend the scrutinizer here came and visited us for this one laugh out 😂 loud. But in all seriousness I believe that ‘enough is enough’ is a cop out when it comes to just letting someone else determine our life choices. Although that is also a right of someone to express that view as well. Some people take a concern for themselves and the choices that are made for them and others don’t.

I have a detail to include here though. That is the factor of personal experience. Doesn’t one have ask oneself….why they are more of a personal witness to such things? As for instance, I have been a witness to a lot of unusual things in my life and it may have affected me in a way that might be quite different than other people and their resulting views. Having witnessed or experienced such unusual circumstances may affect someone quite differently then someone who has not. I think people should take that into account before attempting to ‘judge’ for others how they should run someone else’s life. It is a peculiar phenomenon I have seen that people who for instance think we should’ve had the freedom to have or have not vaccinations but feel think they have the right to determine the morality of a given situation on another matter such as transgender.

To give a really good example, I think would be the story of brother Turiyananda and how he experienced a miracle in the Swiss Alps when he lost his way one day and couldn’t get out of the forest and  find his way out. He explained if you know anything about the Swiss Alps if you’re caught up there at night, you’re gonna freeze to death unless you find a way out. He prayed and told God “you’re gonna have to help me if there’s anything else you want me to do in this life.  And he felt God’s hands push him in the back in towards a certain direction and he found that direction got him out of the Alps. Otherwise he would’ve frozen there. Now that kind of experience would affect somebody quite differently than another person that might’ve had somebody pass by you, and tell you that you have to go this way to get out.

I made a post here and I think it was deleted. Why all the sneakiness? I just asked if Steve was Central Scrutinizer?

No I am not!

Another personal story.

In my 20's after breaking up with Jessica I tried going on Tinder. I didn't know I matched with a transgender person until they told me. But I didn't let it bother me, I was open to giving our connection a shot. The date ended up being purely sexual. We kissed, but I wasn't comfortable going much further than that. During our time together I learned this person was born male, but his grandmother gave him/her hormone treatment since the age of 2 years old. In other words, someone else decided for them they would be a transgender.

I think it's because the story they were told is, "she saw me playing with barbies and I told her I was a girl."

Something like that. But it kind of touches up on your point. Someone forcing something on another. And being witness to unique experiences.

I'm looking for this documentary which also explains the huge profits made in this transgender movement which is not actually a new movement. Transgender ideologies go back thousands of years. What does seem new, is the weaponization of the issue.

I should also add a study just came out from California showing transgendered men are two times more likely to commit suicide after undergoing irreversible surgery on the genitals.

So yes, I do think there is a mental illness not being addressed. We put these things in the limelight for profits sake not for the individual. There's little room for one to go through the motions without the external pressures found online, in schools, on tv, on social media, through doctors.

I have one more personal story to share. Growing up, my Uncle had two sets of children. The first set were my age. Years later he had another set. The first set we all played games. Amy was the biggest tomboy, she could outrun and even outwrestle me. She went on to play basketball and could have taken her career into college if she wanted. Instead she decided to study sport medicine and wound up getting married. I had never seen her in a dress until her wedding day. Before then it was baggy clothes.

Now, in the same county- the second set of children grew up years after us. But in a environment where the transgender movement was taking political center stage. It became so important that they started enforcing policies- and if teachers in the public school saw signs they were encouraged to whisper in the developing childs ear. So my cousin was told by her teachers she must be a boy because she wears a hoodie, likes boy things, and has an unusual relationship with a girl. There's nothing unusual about it, they were just friends. Someone told her it was unusual. And the kids were no better, the adults were teaching them what issues they needed to be concerned with. They really confused her, she started identifying as a boy and chopped all her hair off. The school essentially groomed her. Some schools went so far as to allowing students to purchase and wear transgender clothes- bras and the like, behind their parents back. It also seems like a money maker. Clothes specifically for transgenders??

So now you see why I say I think we have a mental illness issue. Some of the drugs they use on the transgender community are the same drugs they give sex offenders, and some of the drugs only amplify mental illness or propagate disease.

We all have carried or fought a disease in some form or the other, so it is not meant to be an insult. A disease I have witnessed in the West is one that steamrolls over individuals in the name of profit or personal advancement.

https://www.heritage.org/gender/commentary/new-documentary-highlights-the-harm-gender-affirming-health-care-model-children

Here's a great documentary that might allow us to look deeper from people who have transitioned and de-transitioned... It's called
"Affirmation Generation"

It opens up with a girl saying the reason she thought she was a boy is because she had a dream and saw herself as one, in the dream she was so happy. When she woke up she realized she was a girl.

This is interesting to me, because it might indicate past life connection or some nonordinary state of consciousness.

Another point not made, and maybe never made are the spiritual implications behind someone who exploring the energies of masculine and feminine. Like- past lives, practices for understanding and transcending duality. These things can be explored holistically, but I don't see the rush in the movement as holistic at all. Again, I see it as enabling or creating/propagating mental illness.

Here's the documentary:
https://rumble.com/v2n9n88-affirmation-generation-2023.html
"Affirmation Generation features the stories of six young detransitioners (three men and three women). They sought medical help but instead were irreversibly harmed by "gender-affirming care."

Okay, thanks for your honesty Steve. I know you take on a few personas here and you and Central Scrutinizer seem pretty similar. My only other thought is he is Uwe.

Here's the film with the better link:
https://rumble.com/v3u8x97-no-way-back-the-reality-of-lgbtqia-gender-affirming-carereloaded-feb-18-202.html

"Detransitioners Michelle, Laura, Cat, David, Joel and Abel tell the stories of their gender distress, transgender medicalization, and subsequent detransition. Without diagnostic clarity or mental health evaluations, their doctors quickly affirmed them as “transgender,” and mindlessly ushered them along the path of medical transition. (The “gender-affirming care” is the only treatment recommended by the American Academy of Pediatrics.) These young people were harmed irrevocably by the doctors they trusted. AFFIRMATION GENERATION demonstrates how the “one-size-fits-all” medicalization – the “gender-affirming care” – has failed these patients.

The stories of the detransitioners are examined by twelve leading experts with decades of clinical practice treating gender-distressed patients: psychotherapists Lisa Marchiano, Sasha Ayad, Stella O’Malley, physician-scientist Lisa Littman, endocrinologist Dr. William Malone, MD; Licensed Marriage & Family Therapist Stephanie Winn, sociologist Dr. Michael Biggs, pediatrician Dr. Julia Mason, NYT best-selling writer Lisa Selin Davis, and LGB activist & lifelong Liberal Democrat Joey Brite, among others. The 90-minute documentary cites 45 peer-reviewed medical and journalist articles."


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Also. Has anyone ever heard of Magnus Hirschfield?
I'm not saying the young man in this video is right with what he is suggesting at the end of the video, but this is interesting:
https://rumble.com/v4ftgzx-magnus-hirschfeld-the-godfather-of-gender-confusion-and-architect-of-modern.html

"Magnus Hirschfeld: The Godfather of Gender Confusion Architect of Modern Degeneracy

Arthur Kwon Lee reveals the chilling story of (Hirschfeld), the man who first used the term 'transgender'; and championed homosexuality. His Institute for Sexual Science, founded in 1919, aimed to spread pornography and homosexual propaganda films in Germany, while also performing brutal sex change operations.
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(Hirschfeld)) joined forces with prominent rabbis in 1921 to establish the World League of Sexual Reform, which sought to brainwash German youth through a masturbatory curriculum with the goal of turning young boys into cheap prostitutes. However, in 1933, the National Socialists took power in Germany, and on May 6th, a hundred students stormed the Institute of Sexual Science, destroying (Hirschfeld's) monument to degeneracies and permanently closing the building. They threw his grand library of pornography into the fire, bringing an end to the drag queen culture, sex change operations, and the pimping of starving children.
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This exposé serves as a stark reminder of how history can be manipulated and used as a tool to conceal important patterns. It also highlights that the gender confusion we see today has happened before and may continue to resurface in the future."

I take on a few personalities ? I guess this all about my multiple personalities. And that you have always been only one. Sorry that the confusion arises in my head…..I just feel you need to rethink what your saying.

Look Eric you can bring up case studies to attempt to prove your point. But I’ve actually had friends that have gone through the pain of social chastisement on the issue and have attempted to be friends with them
and support them on their decisions. Have you done that?

Your last entry only proves a point I’ve attempted to make many times on this site and that is that people feel they have the right to determine the morality of others and will you violence to enforce and perpetrate it. Exactly what Trump and his gang that attempted to stop the election results and hijack the government.

People like to be derogatory about socialism by pointing to the Nazi movement but refuse to look at the success of it in the Scandinavian nations and in monastic life. Really it is tantamount to calling Putin’s elections free elections, which can hardly be considered to be true. As will also be the result of any make believe election results of the MAGA movement.

Eric you have ventured far off the subject in your last couple of posts with attempting to make out the identity of other  members and bringing up violent political movements. I attempted to respond to some of those diversions here.

Steve, it sounds like you're getting offended by the material shared.
1) You assume multiple personas on the portal- beatrice lancaster, 10 moods of dr kook, sisters of inquisition, etc. etc.

So is it wrong for me to ask if you are also Central Scrutinizer when I see a similarity? Why, also, would you delete my post for asking the question?

2) Did you read that I have tried dating a trans person? Their grandmother decided to give them hormones at the age of 2. Was it the childs choice to take hormones? More importantly, should a parent listen to a child and start giving them hormonal medicine at the cost of their bodies endocrine system? Giving a 2 year old hormones sounds like attempted murder. 

I would feel more comfortable hearing what you have to say once you watch this video- it tells me you would take the time to understand what I'm trying to relay.
Until then, you can comment as you are, but you aren't really commenting on anything other than the narrative in your head. That's how it appears.

Please watch this film and tell me if you better understand my opinions and concerns.
https://rumble.com/v3u8x97-no-way-back-the-reality-of-lgbtqia-gender-affirming-carereloaded-feb-18-202.html


It's so well done I am sharing it with my friends and family.

I'm sorry you feel the need to sarcastically remark that this is somehow all about you. It is not. And, back to the topic at hand, I am not into proving a point as much as I am sharing real concerns with a subject you have created on a forum for open discussion. Yes, I shared my personal stories to show you your point is right. Using the grandmother who gave hormone treatment to the grandson at the age of 2. And then using my cousins as a personal example showcasing how gender affirming care in the school systems are way out of line.

All of this to say, there is an underlying issue that is being ignored. Mental Illness.

Because we have a transgender national awareness day, I feel it is important to bring light to the subject- yes, mental illness is a real problem and especially in the transgender community. So it is appropriate to talk about on a day that is meant to bring awareness to them, or anyone struggling with their assigned gender as dictated by God. And as you know, I feel different about someone actually born with both a penis and a vagina compared to someone choosing they should remove their penis and undergo vaginoplasty.

Please watch the film to better understand my comments. Note the statistics, and note the experiences of the transgendered individuals sharing their personal stories. Thank you~

Also, I'd be curious to know whether or not these friends of yours were all born with both parts of if it was just the one person you mentioned. If all, wow that is definitely something. But if not, I'd like to know if you think there was anything else they suffered from that caused them to choose a different gender? Like sexual abuse, autism, depression, anxiety?

These are some of the things we must consider and bring to light on national transgender day. Sometimes being a friend means speaking the hard truths, not enabling poor decisions. I'm not saying that's the case for you with your friends- just sharing the sentiment from yet another personal experience. I'll spare the details. Just know I wish to be the friend that, if I see a red flag, I'd like to know I am willing to share my Heart on the matter. It doesn't mean the other has to listen, it only means I tried. Even if I'm wrong. And by doing so, I am not robbing the individual from making their own choice.

I also mentioned Magnus Hirschfield because I do believe there is societal programming and thought the brief history I read on him was rather fascinating. To not see parallels is fool hearted. In the film they say the inventor of the labatomy was held in high regard. He was even given a nobel peace prize. Only later was it perceived as barbaric. I immediately saw a parallel with Hirschfields brutal attempts at male-to-female sex change. Now, we don't know the accurate account of history. But I do think gender-affirming care is of great concern with todays standards and practices, and I do think mental illness needs to be looked at- not just for transgender individuals but all people. 

In fact, one of the detransitioners comes out and says they fell into the transgender movement *because they grew up being bullied.
Not because they were trans, but because they were bullied. They found all this information for transgender ideology online and made this association, because they're being bullied for being different- then they must be trans. And that's what started them down a journey of extremely regrettable gender affirming care.

It's also interesting to note that the T in the LGBTQ movement changes the whole idea behind the campaign for gay rights.
Initially, it was: "We're born this way."

And I am not arguing that. But now, we're noticing this-
"I'm born in the wrong body."

So you went from born this way to born in the wrong body and what's happening is those who are finding out they're just gay- some of them are finding out after going through extremely dangerous body modifications and medical malpractice.

It's a rather deep subject.

Eric; who is ‘you’? All I’m saying is the government shouldn’t be involved in forcing people against there will on such issues.

I hope others watch the documentary about the detransitioners and all of the medical malpractice that comes with gender affirming care. I think calling a teenager a she when she is a he is not an act of kindness but promoting mental illness. Unfortunately, the time we find ourselves in- it is very difficult to say this without receiving extreme prejudice and hateful backlash. Ironically, the person calling the transgender by their actual gender would be labeled a bigot and intolerant. If their influence is large enough they even risk financial consequence and "deplatforming."

It's a tough lesson for sure- and I'm not saying to go gung-ho guns blazing and start a personal war with people who wish to be referred to as the opposite sex. There are even people who get offended when you don't refer to them as an animal. There is a time and a place, and sometimes it's better to give the person what they want, even if it is ultimately prolonging their suffering.

I think it takes a great deal of courage to call a radicalized transgender by their appropriate gender. Such an act is not without its risk and consequences, as speaking the truth now days could mean being publicly shamed and ostracized by the so called outside world. But when you really consider the individuals long term happiness, and see that making the transition in genders turns you into a lifelong medical patient- it really makes you ask deeper questions.

And it would seem that the subject has become so politically polarizing that to ask such questions is considered a great offense, and society is robbed of an ability akin to critical thinking and civilized forum. Instead, it becomes mob-rule. Especially when we enable a still developing youth.

Your truth Eric not mine and not necessarily the truth of others. That is the problem with our culture today we have these people who decide it is their duty to define morality and enforce it on others. But you see I agreed with you about vaccines; it’s a personal choice but when it comes to other issues you seem to have the view that it isn’t. And if you do feel that others have free choice on the matter….you some how believe it is courageous to name them the way you deem appropriate and not them. This shows a lack of respect for the values of others. Let people decide their own values. Why must anyone decide the choice they have for themselves also fits everyone else’s?

Calling someone by their appropriate gender isn't, "my truth" it's just reality.

Do you call a blue sky green? A flower, aluminum foil? The sun- do you call it Pluto?

Yes, it is courageous to call someone their appropriate gender assigned by God because we live in such a polarized world that to do so could mean physical backlash, financial consequence, and ostracization.

But as you can see in my post, which you've quoted- I say there is a time and a place. In other words, sometimes it is not appropriate to fan the flames of an already mentally unstable person. Such is the case here:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1831676/Video-Transgender-woman-threatens-shop-employee-called-sir.html
Video: 'Take it outside if you want to call me sir again!' Furious transgender rages at store clerk after he calls her 'sir' instead of 'ma'am'

As you can see, the clerk even apologized but this adult male continued to threaten him and put pressure on him. He threatened physical violence. He demanded the corporate number so he could tattle on the clerk, even though the clerk apologized, and with todays terrible policies(which have been accepted and enforced by many institutions without question) in some cases a person can lose their job for CHOOSING not to follow the lie.

I don't find calling the sun a sun lack of respect. Neither do I think calling the flower a flower, nor a male a male somehow disrespectful. It is just reality. The real disrespect- the madness, are the social pressures being forced upon others to play along in this non reality. It is courageous because,


IF YOU'VE WATCHED THE DOCUMENTARY FOUND HERE:
https://rumble.com/v3u8x97-no-way-back-the-reality-of-lgbtqia-gender-affirming-carereloaded-feb-18-202.html


You would know, one of the detransitioners was saved by another transgender who went all the way and told him not to do it. The man broke down crying explaining how that moment was pivotal and that person saved his life. The transgender who had made the complete surgery confided in him that he battles with suicidal thoughts every day. And then another transgender person they were hanging out with also confided in him the same thing. It was a moment that woke him up to reality. Here are his fully transitioned friends confiding in him that they battle with suicidal tendencies multiple times every single day.

So as you can see in my post, I am not *FORCING* others to accept reality. I have said, sometimes it's better to give a person what they want- even if it is ultimately prolonging their suffering. But that statement of mine, is not very courageous. Is not helping the situation.

You see, the irony here is- you are talking about somehow this view of mine is forcing others...

But really it is quite the opposite. It is the malpratice of gender affirming care, the social pressures from corporate, political, educational and radical entities *FORCING* others to PARTICIPATE in a lie. What about my right to call someone the gender they were born into?

Now if you were born with both parts and want to be called a girl, I will oblige. But if you are a transitioning 14 year old(boy or girl) I will let you know I think you're making a poor decision and share the great risk and dangers you're putting yourself in. Someone has to.

Are 14 year olds old enough to vote? Purchase alcohol? But can we remove their genitals and start them on lifelong medicines at the cost of their health and well being?

Please watch the video, I can only encourage it so many times. I think you would understand my concerns and where I'm coming from if you opened yourself up to their stories.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWRS96Y8Xas

Steve, what Eric is saying is perfectly reasonable. Encouraging young boys and girls in their transgender inclinations means leveraging the immature mind of adolescents for the sake of pursuing an ideology, a political narrative, and a willingness to change society but without respecting the times and limits dictated by elementary psychology, psychiatry and even common sense.

When I hear about pushing transgenderism in elementary schools, I think about indoctrination, similar to that exercised by russia and china.

I don't know why the woke movement wants to go to such extremes. And wants people to believe it to be the normality.

As far as we are concerned, Yoga is surely not the path of extremes, it is the path of moderation. I understand your reasons, but these cease to be valid when the age of the involved persons is legally immature. I would put 21 years at least as the minimum age for starting such procedures of gender change.

If you would like to see where gender affirming care goes too far you only need to watch this documentary to better understand:
https://rumble.com/v3u8x97-no-way-back-the-reality-of-lgbtqia-gender-affirming-carereloaded-feb-18-202.html

Now you've asked to be shown and I've tried providing some perspective by imploring you to watch this serious film discussing the matter. You continue to ignore or brush under the rug the personal accounts brought before you. Instead of challenging yourself and taking your own spiritual disciplines to action- you remain nestled in the comforts of your own biases, narrative or ideologies.

I can't fault you. I could get angry or upset, but I really don't care to either. What's the use? I already had it in mind you would respond in the manner you have.

The truth is, everyone has enough opinions for more than themselves. And I intend to write about this in a separate thread. 

I'm not going to be offended that you would totally dismiss my personal observations and experience with my Cousin as I've tried shareing here. 
But it seems I'm not the only one to have had some experience with the propaganda, pressure and institutionalization of "gender affirming care." GAC... carefully selected words in order to create a desired effect.
 
https://youtu.be/cDIq7z1Fzzs?si=-k5RoEFhmaYlRAjx&t=2436
Megyn Kelly recounts why they pulled her son out of a private school:

Your argument, without ever having experienced a child going through the motions of these institutions, is that the child must be reporting back propaganda fed by the parents. The truth is the propaganda is the other way around. And I have found slews of evidence online to support this.

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When Adrian became a brother is about a child choosing to become the opposite sex and the propaganda is there to show that loving parent should support this decision.
Because the child "felt" they were the opposite sex- it must be true. This is the atrocity behind gender affirming care. And there are MANY, many books like this.

Fun fact, one of the "queens" from drag queen story hour was arrested for having child pornography.

In Virginia Loudoun County- yet another example, a girl speaks out on the "POLICY REFORM" adopted by a school
8th grade boys identifying as girls allowed in the girls restroom. WHAT COULD GO WRONG?

Here's yet another example of propaganda aimed at educating children on gender and sexual orientation,


I could go on, and on. But instead. I am going to once again encourage all of you to watch the documentary. Otherwise, I can only assume your, "show me the proof" is being demanded with your eyes closed and fingers shoved into your ears. "LA LA LA LA LA."


Let's get serious. The film shows the difference and sudden rise of self identified transgender from 2020 to 2024. It isn't pretty. It's not because suddenly everyone is transgender, but I do think there is real propaganda attempting to manipulate confused children.

But did you know... ?

A landmark 15-year study found what critics have been saying all along: most “trans” children grow out of their gender confusion by the time they are fully grown adults.

THE STUDY: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-024-02817-5

And there are TONS of $$$ being flooded in right now to, "woke policies"
And at the same time, if you try to point that out or talk about it- you risk being "demonitized" "debanked" "deplatformed" or "ostracized" labeled the equivalent of a Nazi or some tyrant.

When in reality, we're talking about the propagation of disease and illness. Let me know if you find the courage to watch the film and hear out the opinion of those with first hand accounts of these radical policies and propaganda, people who have since detransitioned. See what they have to say before you reply to this post.

What I’ve noticed Eric is that you have a predilection for watching films that affirm a given point of view and then would like others to watch them thinking that it gives them a different perspective on the people and the views of those who made them. But in fact my views in general have not turned out better on for instance Paul Watson or Alex Jones but rather I have become more aware of the hostility and anger these men have. Yes they occasionally come out with some important information. But their general approach, appearance, attitude and actions are permeated with anger….from my perspective.

Does that mean you tried watching the documentary? Or are you just pulling stuff out from where the sun don't shine?  ;D

Brother I don't know what's going on with you, there's a lot of drama it would appear. All because I posted a contrary view to your own. You don't have to accept anything. I'm not here to force you, but this thread is public for others who read and wish to participate.

Otherwise, why do you have a forum?

Yes and you are participating; no matter what you ‘read’ into my life’s ‘drama’ as you have described here and personally.

Good! And thank you for obliging my request not to text about transgenderism on the cell phone. A time and a place, I would be open to a phone call. But no more texting please, that's just too much for a guy like my self. Especially when you are so darn cryptic. I'm deciding you're not some puzzle for me to solve. I have tried replying to a thread on: "What Is Truth" to get back to spiritual topics. It really blew me away to see your political post and my response to them from 2017. Nothing has really changed, has it?

http://spiritualportal.net/index.php/topic,4581.0.html

Anyways. This documentary on detransitioners has nothing to do with Alex Jones or Paul Watson, so I do hope you give it a watch. It's really good and I plan on sharing it with others~
 
BUT- to you point, to our point- to all the points that could point.  ;D This is the duality- and for every valid point there is a counter ready to contend. For every notion, there is something to affirm or to deny. To enable or to challenge. That is why you see what you see. It is why I see what I see. You have an internal compass, and you follow your Heart- that's the way of the world. And we go the direction we think best suited for our growth. Even if it is not fully actualized or spoken out loud. So the Truth is not something that is going to be discovered by debating philosophical view points, ideological beliefs, religious beliefs or even over world drama. If anything, it is only mean to show you *what is not truth.*

Is it possible for people of differing beliefs to share Truth- Gods Love, mutually?

Kind regards~

Thanks for bringing this up one more time after all these years Eric. I agree with you; nothing has changed and still Donald Trump is a pathological liar and has a conspiracy theory for every attempt to credit himself and discredit others who in any way disagree with him.

This was your last statement to me Eric;

“Then what are you doing
I have nothing more to say to you about your view points on transgenderism”

That is fine Brother but then why bring up this video again? And continue this thread?


Then why bring up transgender identification or of gender transition and detransition which are integrally related. This is the only video I see you have posted (shown in this post).

I’ve been around three transgenders in musical groups in my life. They successfully changed their sexuality and did so because they wanted to do so. I think it is perfectly reasonable to bring up all types of sexuality early in life. Especially when puberty aggressively affects our harmones. This can easily happen to even a young person in late elementary school. I do not pretend to be a psychologist and to be able to work out the details mccoy. But to ignore sexuality in education is for an example a good way to promote unwanted pregnancy. Although I will say this; to have the MAGA people come in and make absolute judgements on homosexuality, bisexuality and transgender is certainly not a fair way of expressing or understanding the many ways of human expression -that is, one philosophy fits all-. We can see it’s dangerous in conspiracy theories surrounding voting irregularities which led to a coup and attempted take over of the worlds original experience in democracy. We have seen these type of people, who were the first instigators of burning people at the stake while witch hunting; The greatest threat to democracy and freedom of expression we have witnessed in the history of this nation; the U.S.

Steve, here I'll have to agree to disagree, the lefts do not want just to speak of sex and biology, they want to indoctrinate the young boys to make them accept as biologically natural an aberration, a blatant denial of the law of karma which assigns a biological sex to everyone (barred an absolute minority) according to their past actions.

But again, I agree with this disagreement.

Such terms as left and right do not apply to me mc coy. So I myself, have a hard time replying to your ability to divide people into neat little camps. In fact I was talking about someone else’s ability to make their own decisions and not any indoctrination that you have brought up. So I would say there is no need to agree to a disagreement. Indoctrination is one thing, making your own decisions is quite another. And, allowing others to make their own choices without moral indoctrination on our part. That is indoctrination from either side whether it be right or left.


Often ‘time’ answers our questions better than we can, Brother Eric. Time and experience determines our approach and spiritual direction. Your truth therefore may be quite different. Can we share God’s love? Yes it is always possible to do that.

I myself hate to apply the political distinctions but, in the present state of the world, unfortunately, transgenderism has become an ideology that is fully supported by the political left wing, in America, in Canada, in Europe. I don't know about other parts of the world.
This ideology does not simply agree with the decisions of some people, this ideology wants to influence the malleable minds of young boys and girls to think that their whims are fully legitimate and must be supported. The indoctrination consists in many strategies and starts in primary schools, at a very young age, trying to shape minds. It's the same which takes place in North Korea, young minds are given a very distorted view of the world, so that they'll grow up with that narrative implanted into their brains.

The political narrative has nothing to do with letting adults make their choices after a full, complete, recognized understanding of the consequences. In Italy, it has been possible for a while now, whatever political faction is governing. But it is undeniable that the left factions just want to influence young minds, not to be compassionate or understanding, but rather to comply with their whims, with possible tragic outcomes.

Again, our view should be more focused on karma and what people who do not recognize themselves with their sex are supposed to do. I don't have a ready answer.

I am of the opinion that if a man or woman is able to be drafted in the army they should be able to make their own decisions about their body and not be coerced by any political ideologies. I no longer can differentiate right from left mccoy. When I was younger the conservative right wanted us in wars like Afghanistan, Iraq and Vietnam. Look what that led to; Afghanistan was a 20 year debacle war the right started. It was finished by the left. Although the right promised to finish it, Trump was not able to finish it. Although he promised he would.  Iraq never had weapons of mass destruction the Republican right claimed.   And Viet Nam appears more happy then ever getting democracy out of their lives. It beats the dictator that the right supported. Today the far right want to see the war ended …. Which has been the claim of far Right Trump lovers. Trump; ‘I will end the war in Ukraine in 24 hours’ Mainly the left want to prolong the war against Russian aggression until it is ended.

The right seems to  want to control the way others use their bodies but they do not seem to want anyone treading on their personal ideas about for instance vaccines. Now I agree with them on that. But I say let’s be consistent. Let others also make their own decisions on the way they choose to use or alter their body’s. But their is no consistency. In fact the right want to control every aspect of a woman’s body yet they continue to fret about forced vaccines on themselves. Does that make me leftest because I want to preserve the sovereignty of a nation’s democracy? Does it make me a leftist to want to also preserve the rights of others to make their own decisions on vaccines. Go figure. What would I be? Left or right?

Now Steve, please put up with my linguistic and conceptual maybe excessive fastidiousness. The following must be read in this key of punctiliousness.

I'll translate your words if I construed them correctly: if a person is mature enough to be drafted, he or she should be mature enough to make a decision about changing sex, without coercion from political ideologies.

If my interpretation is right, that appears not to be a very germane answer to my points.
That is, I was specifically referring to the influence some political ideologies, in particular the parties which are calling themselves 'left', 'democrats', progressist' and so on, are trying to exert on very young boys, not able yet to be drafted. By the way, the draft no more exists in America or in Italy.

Besides, your point is maybe a so-called non-sequitur. That is , people may be old enough to go to the army, yet not mature enough to be able to make a correct choice, socially, psychologically, practically or karmically speaking, about their sexual identity.

Moreover, in most Western countries there is absolute freedom about one's choice, provided a panel of specialists (among which psychiatrists and psychologists) issues a positive judgment on the issue.

The derangement of this system is pushing the specialists to give a positive assent notwithstanding factors such as being of too young an age, otherwise, they are ostracized, banned from the profession and else. I know this is happening in America and in Canada and is a system even self-proclaimed convinced democrats like the internet influencer Joe Rogan have denounced as deranged.

This system has been widely denounced by the famous Canadian professor and internet influencer Jordan Petersen, whose strict adherence to logic I admire.

i will continue to ponder on your last entry. My immediate response is No there is no current draft here in the U.S, but there is a draft age so your point on that appears to be not relevant to my statement. And since the National Guard was called up and fought in both the Afghan and Iraq war that age is only 17. Young enough to lose your life but not old enough to make a critical decision in your life? i ask you to think about our nations leaders. They made the decision. Not me. They can make decisions on a young mans life and feel that they should but then they do not not feel that the same men or women should be able to make other serious and at times moral decisions? Sounds a bit hypocritical and definitely not consistent thinking.

To join the National Guard without prior service, you must meet these mandatory requirements:

Be between the ages of 17 and 35
Be a U.S. citizen or permanent resident
Be at least a junior in high school, or have a high school diploma or a GED certificate
Achieve a minimum score on the ASVAB test
Meet medical, physical and moral requirements
For full requirements, apply now and speak to a National Guard recruiter.

Unfortunately, when i went to school there was no sex education at all, so you see that is one reason the human race is multiplying like rats. The more transgenders there are the less people. That is the good side of the story! As far as a proper education in the future or presently, i am not in charge of that but i certainly - with out any doubt - do not want the far right to be making those kind of decisions and having them enforce their laws on women as they are all over this nation today. Because of far right presidents who think it is their duty to decide the morality of people in our nation by appointing stringent court appointees and justices to administer their morality.... while at the same time cutting funds to help those who have had to live lives forced on them from the conservative element of society. Didn't God give us free will to make our own decisions? That is what we are taught by the Masters. But there seems to be an element in society that want to play God and force others to play by their rules. In this nation today and even more so in other nations we have these people that want to set up this 'family morality' and having large families that multiply like locusts. It just isn't working mccoy. Mother Earth is under a heavy burden from our invasive species. The Catholic Church is one of the worst culprits for this. The far right have taken a very destructive view to destroy our earth with Population Explosion. Especially with many, if not most of them, wanting to close down Planned Parenthood in the U.S.

Steve, now I understand your support of transgenderism, that's because your strong concerns about overpopulation. So, the more the gay people and infertile transgenders, the lesser the concern. This appears to be a more logical argumentation than that based on age required to join the national guard. Not necessarily in the right sphere of thought, but belonging to a more logical reasoning.

And I really don't see a strong logic in the other arguments, that is, at 17 you may want to serve in a military structure but you may well be wrong on wanting to change sex. The two things are independent. You may be right on one thing and wrong on the other. Please note that some requirements must be met to join the guard, even as some requirements must be met to change sex.

About the morality issue, it is not very clear what you are alluding to. It may have been more clear to a citizen of the USA, but it is not to me, a citizen of another country.

If you are alluding to abortion, the discussion becomes more serious but I'm not sure abortion is part of your topic since you do not mention the specific term. I will not pronounce my opinion about abortion until you confirm that it is part of your argumentations.

Perhaps 🤔 at times we should look at ourselves and delve into the question of what brings us together as spiritual beings, but often separates us on ideological issues? I often asked this question of myself when Eric was around. I have my ideas. They are some what multiple faceted and are thoughts for another thread. At this point of our conversation I will attempt to stay on the topic, but just want to add here that as introspective seekers of the truth we often find other core reasons for even bringing up topics like this. I guess one of my points here is that this life perhaps was never intended to be a smooth ride. Maybe we are somewhat prisoners if our own devices and desires marooned on an island  of restitution.


mccoy; I wonder how much thought you’ve given to the point that some spheres of thought overlap? I mean by this that at some age we must be old enough to make decisions and be responsible for those decisions on our own, having known that society places requirements on us all through life. There are various biological, sociological, political and interpersonal requirements we face everyday. This is life as we have come to know it. Yet we ourselves make these decisions and must face the consequences of those decisions. How much do we feel we have the responsibility of telling others what their decisions should be?


mccoy; no it may seem to you that I am engaging in non-sequiiters, but honestly I feel I have expressed some cohesive ideas here. I wouldn’t say that you haven’t, it’s just that yours appear hypocritical to me. And that is because I hear you can say that others have the right to kill but not to determine their own gender. You would have us believe that requires more maturity to make such a decision?

You can draft some one to kill others and themselves but you cant let them have the right to make their own decisions on their moral life. Does that make any logical sense to you? i mean is killing people less important as sexual orientation? Killing people is a moral decision the government can at any time thrust on its citizens.  But you feel that the government also has the right to make decisions on their sexual orientation? At whatever age they choose?

Here is another sphere of thought that I see overlapping: There is also the very practical and ethical question of; How will we ever slow down the destruction of Mother Earth when we have leaders promoting the judgement of other peoples moral life and shutting down ‘planned parenthood’? No abortion is not part of this topic. That would have to be something you decide to start as a thread. The issues are very complex and not easily resolved.  Open topic. See photo below…The results of right wing forced ethics and some religious propaganda....

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Steve, at first, in the deceased fora I was flabbergasted at seeing devotees diverging so much in opinions not only, but arguing and bickering among themselves often in harsh ways. To date, I can still barely believe it and probably it is the anonymous forum environment that pulled out the worst in devotees.

Here it is different, but I still wonder why sometimes ideas are so different. Am I wrong or are you wrong? Or is everyone just in the middle? Or wrong and right in different percentages?

That's why I'm playing the part of the logically rigorous nerd because perhaps we can understand the source of differences, the cosmic spheres of thoughts and its possible overlaps, as  you are implying. this requires some detachment from one's own present ideas, otherwise, logic is affected. I'm speaking of myself as well.

And if you are feeling convenient with it, I'm tackling the issues one by one, for lack of much time.

We can rule out abortion straight away, because I totally agree that it is a very complex discussion with multiple aspects to contemplate.

I appreciate your openness to the possibility of being in error, I am also. In fact I do not know that people can be completely wrong or right as long as there is duality. I believe your view that there is a percentage of right and wrong, is ‘most probably’ more correct. And their is always the possibility of being right but simultaneously being wrong in our way of behaving. Is it possible that as long as we are in duality right or wrong are not absolute terms? Perhaps we must also look at the way we respond or react to our own cherished ideas. In that we can also be right or wrong. What I see happening on an international and national scale  is more complex in nature as well. We used to have people making slaves out of one another and a God of the Old Testament giving us the green light on doing it. Today Slavery is for the most part a thing of the past. We now think of for instance economic slavery.

We as spiritual beings are attempting to fine tune our consciousness. yet we still question our ability to understand our own thoughts and feelings as we encounter others who have contrasting views. And occasionally - or even more so, if that is our current lesson - we meet someone that makes us look at our reality quite differently. Although we may at the same time see their mistakes in the way they did so. I recently had a devotee question my ability to have an ‘open-minded’ view on vaccines and the harm they are capable of. While I attempted to express my view that both sides had good and bad points, she constantly attempted to make me me feel guilty by ‘demanding’ that i fess up to whether I had been vaccinated or not.

Yes Steve, this topic as well many others has not a unique aspects.

The aspects I can see are: Karmic assignment of sex, possibility to overrule karmic assignment and related problems; legitimacy to overrule karmic assignment if mentally miserable; legitimacy to provide for sex change when serious cases of mental instability are know to have ensued; legitimacy not to provide sex change when mental instability present because of refusal; compassion for those who are in such a difficult karmic plight; necessity of society to avoid doing more harm then good,..... surely more are present.

I see in this conversation some concepts above that relate to our previous conversation on ‘spheres of thought’ and that…

“Two spheres could even overlap, so as to share common elements with each other. This could be seen for example in Schopenhauer's philosophy, who takes over certain basic elements of his predecessor, Kant's philosophy. Conversely, we could unite two formerly antagonistic views in a higher synthetic sphere, by sublating (in Hegel's terms) both views in a higher synthesis.”

Steve, I appreciate your theoretical effort in describing the possible sublation (or assimilation) of apparently antagonistic spheres.

Of course, then it raises the need to prove conceptually the sublation in practical terms.

Or maybe we should go back to the original definition by Anandamoy and proceed from there. I'm going to read the other post you wrote on the subject before discussing further on this

I think if you are attempting to do something not natural it just doesn’t ever work out so well. Maybe we should start asking people if they are happy changing their sex? Breast implants, face lifts, body make overs. I mean didn’t our karma and what God gave us determine our life lessons this time around? All I can say is looking at Micheal Jackson just seemed eerie even though he was incredibly talented. And he did  play up to that look in his Thriller video. Imagine Paramahansa Yogananda with a Gastrectomy. The new Guru look! Looking at a politician a face lift just seemed unreal (Marianne Williamson) with toupee (Trump), or numerous women you have seen before looked more natural with small breasts now with breast implants. It all wreaks with a feeling of oddity. Maybe that’s why we have Halloween. But many people look good with changes in color of hair. Maybe 🤔 its a lot about taste. I say let people do what they want to do. Why take away free choice? Eventually we will have people replacing most of their body to live to 150 or 200 years old. Personally I’d rather just throw out the rag. And, give up the ghost. We are making robots today. Aren’t they also fake humans? At some point it will be obvious we have to stop it……….. Frankenstein!

What do you think everyone? Am I a candidate for a make over… ⬇️

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I do find it horrible that ladies do surgery on their lips, becoming usually uglier rather than prettier. But it is their money, not mine.

I'm tempted to be very critical of Michael Jackson, but he was after all a showman, and truly, I'm not very interested in him.

Sex change, transgenderism.

After all these discussions, Steve, I can find compassion for those involved. They feel bad with their bodily garment, I was lucky to be happy with my assigned biological gender. Usually people do not mind what they are assigned, they just accept it without questions.

My desire would just be to know the opinions of an enlightened master on the subject.

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