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« on: Sep 07, 2025 08:13 am »

Recently I was looking at a Vedanta Society Youtube presentation on meditation as per the instructions of Sri Krishna in the Bhagavad Gita. The Vedanta Nun explained that the meditator needs to look at the end of the nose while meditating. Over the years I've come across this divergent method postulated by different meditation paths. I just wonder how it can be anywhere near as effective, though I don't doubt the spiritual giants the Ramakrishna movement have produced.

Sri Yukteswar said something about this when he commented that the yogic path is difficult enough without causing the devotee to become cross eyed. The meaning of Krishna's instructions, according to the Masters of our path, is to fix the gaze at the origin of the nose between the eyebrows.
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« Reply #1 on: Sep 07, 2025 12:25 pm »

Recently I was looking at a Vedanta Society Youtube presentation on meditation as per the instructions of Sri Krishna in the Bhagavad Gita. The Vedanta Nun explained that the meditator needs to look at the end of the nose while meditating. Over the years I've come across this divergent method postulated by different meditation paths. I just wonder how it can be anywhere near as effective, though I don't doubt the spiritual giants the Ramakrishna movement have produced.

Sri Yukteswar said something about this when he commented that the yogic path is difficult enough without causing the devotee to become cross eyed. The meaning of Krishna's instructions, according to the Masters of our path, is to fix the gaze at the origin of the nose between the eyebrows.

I understand Web; I spent six years living at a Vedanta monastery. I appreciated my time there, but found their meditation practices quite different than at SRF or with Amma’s group. Some of the Buddhist groups had a similar approach to Vendanta. I really never discussed it with those I meditated with but rather followed Sri Yukteswars advice. I have also never found a progressive approach from Christian meditation. I feel we are fortunate to have our gurus and the ‘corrections’ they made in the literature of both the Bible and the Bhagavad Gita. Human ignorance has transformed many of the teachings of Masters through the ages. Yet I do believe that ‘focus’ - whether it is done through the ‘correct’ way or not - yields results and the devotion other paths facilitate as well as the service is beneficial to spiritual evolution.

I think what we should recognize is our own gurus story and advice in the SRF lessons about the drunkard man who could not even put stakes in the ground correctly because of his drinking problems. Yet he was favored by God because he did not have the same expectations that another devotee had who meditated consistently and regularly for years. There are also the elements of devotion and love for God and correct introspection that leads to a proper attitude that obviously cannot be ignored in a devotees sadhana.
There are so many other factors that contribute to spiritual development and practice that we cannot believe that meditating correctly alone will put us ahead of others who have developed the proper aspects of devotion and practice in a better way then we ourselves. Gods grace can never be left out of the equation either. Who are we to assess the proper ingredients for enlightenment? We can only hope to be favored in our practices to help others and continue in what is ‘obvious’ for us on the spiritual path, while leaving behind those practices that seemingly have no basis for improving our own spiritual growth.
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« Reply #2 on: Sep 08, 2025 10:21 pm »

Thought I’d reply more to this subject since so much more has been said on the position of the eyes. For instance Paramahasa Yogananda says in the SRF lessons that the eyes directed level represents consciousness. The eyes directed below represents subconscious or nodding off in meditation and the eyes directed upward represents superconsconsciousness.
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« Reply #3 on: Sep 09, 2025 08:44 am »

Thanks for your attention to this subject. I have no doubt that there are far more important ingredients that need to be considered in reaching the highest states of spiritual awakening. I've read a good deal of the Christian mystics who didn't know scientific techniques but devotion alone seems to have gotten them there. St Therese of Avila, St Therese of Lisieux, St Francis, Ignatius, St Anthony... the list is prolific.

St Therese of Avila is an interesting case in point. She uses an analogy in her writings that is meant as a guidepost to her fellow nuns on how to talk with God directly. She uses the illustration of the turtle withdrawing its limbs in exactly the same way Krishna does in the Bhagavad Gita in describing how to withdraw the senses inwardly. It's quite amazing because back in the 16th century Indian Holy literature wasn't available in the west. Just shows how the mystics of all paths converge because they have lived the truths directly.
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« Reply #4 on: Sep 11, 2025 02:48 am »

Wow Web! Thanks for continuing this subject. I thought I’d attempt a little experiment today. I practiced jyoti mudra and saw a light orb while looking up at the spiritual eye, but as I looked down the orb of light still persisted.

Sometimes I’ve also ‘seen’ colors expanded to my whole field of vision. Although somethings are more likely while practicing spiritually, as you said above all things are possible in spirit and practice.
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