Navalny dies in prison?

[Jitendra Hydonus]

https://apple.news/Abc7mZEslT3mau0Pr0T8aaw

[guest633]

You have made two post that I consider political in nature since our agreement. I don't like saying this, but it doesn't feel very respectful to the concessions made between us. I don't mean any disrespect to your desires, but appreciate if we can delete this thread as we embark on the collaborated effort to minimize political news on the spiritual portal.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

If you admire someone that presumably dies in jail whether it is a soldier, a politician, a prisoner, a journalist or a famous sports person; I respect your admiration Eric. Are you saying you cannot respect mine? Navalny is a man that I sincerely admire because of his courage to speak out and if you do not see that at least let me appreciate it. I consider any other view in regards to my views on such matters as censorship. Something I have NEVER done to you; NEVER

If you want to stretch the meaning of political we could also include topics you have recently posted. I do not choose to squabble about minor irritations that bother me or anyone here. But instead to move forward as a spiritual site honoring those who have done courageous and therefore spiritual feats in their life. While we attempt to live with such people as our individual examples of towering spirituality.

Navalny was much like Mandela who spent 20 years in prison before becoming the leader of South Africa. If Navalny had lived longer he too may have gone on to be a great leader. You may think both of them were not worth admiring. Whatever your opinion is I do not contest it here. And you have a right to admire who you consider a spiritual giant regardless of my views.

[guest633]

Do you really admire Navalny? He called ethnic minorities cockroaches. Did you know that? Or are you just feeling compelled to post something because you read about it in the news?

Steve. Should I put Alex Jones back here? Please do not post about Navalny and other political figures at the portal. I find it disrespectful to our recent agreement.

[guest633]

This Navalny stuff, as sad as it is- is world drama. World drama has always been, no matter the time. What matters it we prepare ourselves for the dissolution of reality as we know it- which has so far been defined through the attachment of this physical body. It specifically feels like a major distraction. You have made two post now since this news was brought to your attention- but again, the world does not give the same effect to Gonzalo Lira an American Journalist or to the actual death of Jeffery Epstein, who was murdered. So it seems we are no better, and are not in a position as leaders to tell the world what is more important when those same leaders commit the same atrocities. Anyone that tells us to look outside ourselves, pointing their finger at other than self, is keeping us from going within and understanding the true nature of reality.

While I respect your desire to say something, that urge and something is in part curated by the external world drama as it is presented to you. That is why politics can be so polarizing, and I ask that we do not talk politics at the portal. I find posting something about Navalny is actually disrespectful to peoples political views because the only reason our leaders are talking about it now, is because he served as a potential candidate in furthering a particular political agenda. Not because this is a crime against humanity, considering our nation is equally guilty of said crimes and conveniently silent in other areas that also deserve prayers and mentions.

So please- no more names of political interest for now. That was a part of our agreement. You could instead change the title of this thread to, "Martyrs and prayers for martyrs." Couldn't you? You can also delete any such political topics you see fit. I told you, I am ok with this change and this effort not to jump up and down in excitement at the world drama as it is being presented to us.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Do you really admire Navalny? He called ethnic minorities cockroaches. Did you know that? Or are you just feeling compelled to post something because you read about it in the news?

Steve. Should I put Alex Jones back here? Please do not post about Navalny and other political figures at the portal. I find it disrespectful to our recent agreement.

As I said I am not here to debate with you any longer Eric. That is no longer a viable solution to our differences, especially when we have more in common. Navalny was first a human being just as John Lennon was a human being. They both were hounded by their governments for expressing opinions. You have that freedom here. Do not attempt to take away my admiration for what I see as spiritual qualities in someone. I will not attempt to do that to you. Alex Jones is not dead. Navalny has passed on. I pray for him and the well being of his soul. Is there anything wrong with that?

What you are asking is disrespectful to the Bhagavad Gita. A spiritual classic. Why? Because Arjuna was a political leader and the main character with Krishna supporting his mission. It also can be considered against the story of Jesus because he was tried and crucified for what the leaders of the day considered political reasons; that is claiming to be a ‘King’.

I am not even going to start talking about what could be considered political in your presentation of Swami V’s predictions. I’m not picking at straws here. We have much to offer one another. Let us proceed.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

I will not proceed if you continue to post news links and political figures. You said you were willing to try. If you will not, such is your decision.

Without a news link I would have known nothing about this incredible man. He is an amazing personage of human spiritual patience, endurance and courage. It matters little to me if he is a musician, plumber or gardener. He is my aspiration. I believe that there are those who have cut off all news coverage about him. It is a shame to not know of such great people because of censorship.

[mccoy]

Eric, what about Navalny? He had the incredible courage to go back to Russia, even well knowing that it would have been his doom.

Everyone deserves respect for that. He was given hospitality in Germany, but he wanted to go back to his country, his fate. A tragic figure.

I don't know about the details of his life, but he's mainly known as an opponent to Putin the tyrant. Who killed so many opponents we don't know about.
The ones we know about, Navalny included, are most probably just the tip of the iceberg.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Eric, what about Navalny? He had the incredible courage to go back to Russia, even well knowing that it would have been his doom.

Everyone deserves respect for that. He was given hospitality in Germany, but he wanted to go back to his country, his fate. A tragic figure.

I don't know about the details of his life, but he's mainly known as an opponent to Putin the tyrant. Who killed so many opponents we don't know about.
The ones we know about, Navalny included, are most probably just the tip of the iceberg.

Thanks Brother; I have made an agreement with Eric, for now , not to talk about politics with him on the portal. His view is that I have by including this important information about the passing of Navalny. I do not feel that I have, since I’ve recounted nothing of his life but proof he has passed on and my admiration for him. I am happy to hear someone else here has brought their condolences to such an influential man to our lives.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Eric, what about Navalny? He had the incredible courage to go back to Russia, even well knowing that it would have been his doom.

Everyone deserves respect for that. He was given hospitality in Germany, but he wanted to go back to his country, his fate. A tragic figure.

I don't know about the details of his life, but he's mainly known as an opponent to Putin the tyrant. Who killed so many opponents we don't know about.
The ones we know about, Navalny included, are most probably just the tip of the iceberg.

I am hoping and praying that all such people with a worthwhile mission in life have a smooth transition when they are welcome to the other side from this at times, brutal and nightmarish life.

[mccoy]

Yes, I agree that the figure of Navalny is above politics, representing the basic ideals of freedom.
Here in Italy, all political parties are mourning his death.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Eric, what about Navalny? He had the incredible courage to go back to Russia, even well knowing that it would have been his doom.

Everyone deserves respect for that. He was given hospitality in Germany, but he wanted to go back to his country, his fate. A tragic figure.

I don't know about the details of his life, but he's mainly known as an opponent to Putin the tyrant. Who killed so many opponents we don't know about.
The ones we know about, Navalny included, are most probably just the tip of the iceberg.

Thanks for expressing; such an eloquent response.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

https://www.wlwt.com/article/other-russian-dissidents-besides-late-alexei-navalny/46848106

Who are other Russian dissidents besides the late Alexei Navalny?