Polarization and Tyranny

[Jitendra Hydonus]

My favorite Jethro Tull album; Songs from the Wood. I also play flute. Thanks for all the information on your background! I commented on it here;
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Dear Uwi,
I want you to check out "Sri Yukteswar Yuga Diagram" on Spiritual Portal. To view it, please click this link:
http://spiritualportal.net/index.php?topic=8047.0
A comment has also been added regarding this topic:
The yugas
Thanks,
Jitendra Hydonus

I've seen Jethro Tull countless times live, and back in the day they were a real treat!

Thanks for your comments regarding Sri Yukteswar and the yugas, but I think Msr. Trump may save the world from an atomic war about to ensue, if he will win the next elections.

(These runes have been cast.)

And...
What good does all your political reasoning do?

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Under the name and thread of a true saint, such as Yoganandaji's Guru?
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So that’s what it has come to, we let an evil people dictate and cower the world because of threats of nuclear war? And the winds of nuclear fallout will be blowing across Russia as well. My suggestion is to read again Paramahansa Yogananda’s commentary on the Bhagavad Gita. Krishna never once told Arjuna to take shelter and run and hide because of his Brother’s unrighteousness. He told him it was his duty to fight. Krishna was at peace with himself, being above the duality of right and wrong. Still he knew the path of freedom for his disciple Arjuna towards liberation. Each of us has our own path. Yours may not be mine. May you not have to discriminate between the dark forces of tyranny and the path leading to your own liberation.

Extending the view of those not willing to support Ukraine’s sovereignty; I suppose then we should also avoid the threats of Kim Jong Un if he also drops a nuclear bomb or two as he has threatened. And what about other countries who have the bomb? Should we cower under their threats also? I suppose Jesus should have also avoided the wrath of the Sanhedrin and Rome by saying he really wasn’t really a king at all, to avoid also the crucifixtion of his disciples and his own? When does fear seize and faith in the truth hold to the knowledge we are souls and the soul cannot be destroyed?  Who would want to live in such hell that some people create for others? There is only one way, that is to fight and work towards righteousness for such countries just like I’ve met a friend who fought in the Catholic underground against Hitler and the Nazis in your country. Or find a way out and pray for those who must endure such tyranny. Or perhaps be a medic if that is your calling.

There can be no good arising from the evil actions that some people live by in their actions, minds and behaviors. To speak of peace when you have attempted to usurp democracy is untenable as a spiritual attribution. Especially when there is no repentance or acknowledgment of mistakes made.

In the United Clones of Ameritunes we have a very different challenge. Here the church has usurped the state.

~ “no one is alone and can control anyone else” ~ Paramahansa Yogananda

[Jitendra Hydonus]

We’re all living in Amerika
Coca Cola.. wonderful.



You must learn it in English!!

Ha ha 😝

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[guest587]

Hello my spiritually seeking, life appreciating community!

I have a question and am presently unsure as how to go about even asking it.

I had a couple thoughts earlier today relevant to this topic...

One, it seems more people now rely on information outside themselves to tell them what to think and how to feel. You may be guilty of this and not be willing to admit it. An example I can give you is... I asked my friend how he's doing today and he said he's doing miserable after learning about all these different atrocities he's read spending his time online. It seems a majority of us are living with a TV, a cellphone or the internet between our ears.

Two, despite how divided we seem- I feel with quite a Faith-filled emotion that we are becoming more united than ever. Even people who seem so opposite are uniting, and a common "enemy" seems to be shifting towards something other than fellow layman vs fellow layman. Granted, there is still much duality and Ego where people feel so attached to a political or religious identity they treat their spiritual Brother or Sister with contempt or disrespect... Either way, I am hopeful we are collectively evolving towards divine realization.

So... What am I trying to get at?

Well- I feel like ancient wisdom has said not to rely on things outside your self. And it seems all we do is rely on things outside ourselves.

I guess my question is. How do we navigate this life accordingly, so as to create peace with those we find disagreeable and/or heavily dependent on the worlds drama for their life experience? I say this knowing narratives today have been construed, information online has been taken out of context and polarization has been intentionally employed as a tactical weapon by those who wish to steer the course of humanity.

Do we fight each other and say- you are wrong! This is actually what's going on in the world!
Do we close ourselves off to the other and say- Oh, how mislead my Brother/Sister has been! They are totally indoctrinated, and therefore I must distance myself from them!

I recognize I am more than my body. But I came here to experience 3D physicality, this I can say with certainty as my individual preference. I am choosing to find the harmony between This Life, a life of duality and Spiritual life- a life of oneness. It isn't easy, and I am far from tempering my personality or taming my Ego- sometimes, I willingly rebel against the idea.

In a world of hot and cold, right and wrong- how do we recognize who one calls evil another calls great and bridge the differences our attachments create?

How do we create peace with those in our environment who appear so hypertensive as a consequence of living totally online AND/OR totally inside their heads?

I guess these are my thoughts I have been wanting to get out and welcome your feedback.

Namaste~

[guest587]

Thanks for your contribution to my concerns. And it seems the conversation is carrying on as well in the Bhagavad Gita discussions between you and Steve. = )

Yes, I agree with Gurunaths war cry: "Self Peace for Earth Peace."

I agree with you and HIK Gods Grace or, Gods favor is *the thing* to truly want.

And again, you and HIK seem to say something I also feel most drawn to-

Peace in the home. If we do not have peace in our home, how can we expect it anywhere else?

Our home can also be seen as our nation, absolutely. And all of this goes back down to the micro- little i, which I see the ultimate I- the ONE responding to personally, intimately
as Ever-Present and Alive

[guest587]

Sorry, in my excitement I did not finish my thought...

Yes, it is very difficult... I find my self appreciative of having friends who view the world so different from me- even if they can sometimes be really, really annoying. Even if I think they're wrong.

They are still Gods. All belongs to God. All Is God.

Knowing this, that we are all so different at any one time(even though we are not so different) I suspect even the means to finding peace in ones self may not be the same methodology as another-

I just found my self wondering whether or not these different Selves that are made manifest in 3D material world are here to experience the contrast and balance the Self on a deeper level... As I do believe there is intelligent Life beyond 3D material world.

[guest587]

Uwe, I shared your comment over at the GTC and I would like to share Casey's here too. The thought occurred to me after the fact that maybe I should ask your permission first- so please let me know if you'd like me to take it down.

I am attempting a fellowship on the discussion and bridging thought processes between communities.

[guest587]

Hi Uwe,

I didn't think you'd mind- but wanted to ask anyways.

I find Casey's reply rather agreeable as well. What's bold are my questions and indentions are responses. I've provided the link at the bottom. Here's to our extended community. <3

With my personal experience, people who seek Divine Realization/Oneness do not feel right telling others where they are in life. True, we must recognize where each and every person is... I guess I'm just saying to my self, to be weary of those who would tell you where they are on the spectrum or where others are in relation to them.

     >Yes, it is good to point out, Eric, and I certainly would be, thank you.

   What I am really meaning to point to, though, is our innate Inner guidance system and ability to accurately gauge OURSELF within a spectrum. No matter where we are within the spectrum, there will always be those identifiably on the wave ( ie: moving through the same process ) both ahead of and behind us. We have a quite specific example in the original post, that of looking inwardly to the self rather than to others for information. Some have not begun in this direction at all, some have barely begun, some consciously practice any time they can remember, some have near mastered this <-- this is the quite specific wave I am referencing above.



The other thought is rather interesting. I have posed this question over at the spiritual portal ( www.spiritualportal.net ) and the 1111 MB ( https://board.1111angels.com/ ). I have a friend who says it is our duty to fight tyranny. And another who says fighting only leads to more fighting. I agree with the latter. I agree that the fight must be turned inward. But I do not disagree with my friend who says we must resist tyrannical mandates and human oppression.
     
     >This is another really good example of another discrete wave.

   To delve into it, though, first we have to realize and/or "choose" our polarity, to see if we are acting in accordance with it or not. One who is polarized [ + ] will depolarize to some degree by fighting/resisting. Often, in the beginning, when we feel to fight ( tyranny, etc.. ) it is to save our sovereignty, our rights, our way of life and in some cases our very lives, etc.. This could be said to be the beginning of this particular wave. At the completing end of the wave, as I have often said is TO FOCUS ( not fight ), for when focus can be held one sees far beyond one who cannot, or simply is not. It is where all the true answers lay. In the ability to focus our attention. Focus the attention on self sovereignty and self sovereignty will simply always be present, available, expressed and utilized. It is in the choice to not develop our focus of attention, and instead be swayed into the game of some other attempting to take [ something ] away that leads to everything we are now seeing in our world, — repeating endlessly.



Anyways... Are these folks who wish to fight tyranny ( - ) orientation? Apparently it is possible to recognize and experience All God while simultaneously taking sides in religious and political wars. I personally don't wish for any of that- but who am I to say what is right and what is wrong?

     >Not necessarily, no.. more likely they are of a [ + ] orientation and acting in a [ - ] fashion, ie: depolarizing themself. All of this is why so few, relative to the whole have been able to break free of this place [ 3D ]. Once a person truly realizes their polarity the idea is to BY ALL MEANS exemplify it. This is what leads to freedom, not all this other. Again, the ability to actually hold a point of focus teaches us this. In the undistracted mind it becomes increasingly, crystal clear.



Yes, difficult indeed to navigate duality- but I think most of us want to be here on some level... Even if it's to rise through it all. And so... If we believe the outside world to be a reflection of the inside, how do we accept rape, mutilation, oppression and so on?

     >Acceptance, ( like surrender ), ( another word meaning the same ) - is not ever to another, or to abuse, etc.. it is to oneself and one's own higher power. In terms of ourself this includes our [ + ] polarity, the acceptance of and surrender to it; the cessation of the working against it and initiation of its exemplification.

   Once we accept ourself and our mission, ie: the [ + ] way and begin to walk it, the next step is accepting that of every living being no matter the mission. It is what levels the playing field with genuine equality - there is nothing more to fight - what fight is there in equivalence? Something incredible happens when we do this. It is like we earn the secret decoder ring to the reality, and when we truly begin to lay effect upon the field. The field in its entirety including all who occupy it. All at once.

   In acceptance, in surrender, Grace is eternally present. It takes a great amount of trust, though, to step out onto this path.

   The subject is immeasurable and I have said little ( but is it in measure enough to follow?

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/omtalks/duality-one-ness-virtuous-interaction-t2219.html#p29711

I hope others find something helpful or feel comfortable providing their own thoughts.
PS, I still need to watch the video you sent.

[guest587]

Say what you'd like, and like what you say- WHO AM I? To argue with you- anyway? 

Hey, sometimes I find pretty pennies and recognize them as a sign from above. So thank you for your single cent.

Yes- truth IS simple, and MAN likes to walk the maze. 

For those who get lost in it from time to time, I appreciate this satsang. Heheheh.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

https://news.yahoo.com/india-protests-chinas-land-claim-054342866.html

NEW DELHI (AP) — India is protesting a new Chinese map that lays claim to India’s territory ahead of next week's Group of 20 summit in New Delhi, a foreign ministry official said, exacerbating tensions during a three-year military standoff between the two nations.

The timing of the protest is key, as Chinese President Xi Jinping is expected to attend the summit of industrialized and developing countries.

"We reject these claims as they have no basis. Such steps by the Chinese side only complicate the resolution of the boundary …..

[guest587]

Nice songs Uwe! Easy listening for just waking up.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Hello my spiritually seeking, life appreciating community!

I have a question and am presently unsure as how to go about even asking it.

I had a couple thoughts earlier today relevant to this topic...

One, it seems more people now rely on information outside themselves to tell them what to think and how to feel. You may be guilty of this and not be willing to admit it. An example I can give you is... I asked my friend how he's doing today and he said he's doing miserable after learning about all these different atrocities he's read spending his time online. It seems a majority of us are living with a TV, a cellphone or the internet between our ears.

Two, despite how divided we seem- I feel with quite a Faith-filled emotion that we are becoming more united than ever. Even people who seem so opposite are uniting, and a common "enemy" seems to be shifting towards something other than fellow layman vs fellow layman. Granted, there is still much duality and Ego where people feel so attached to a political or religious identity they treat their spiritual Brother or Sister with contempt or disrespect... Either way, I am hopeful we are collectively evolving towards divine realization.

So... What am I trying to get at?

Well- I feel like ancient wisdom has said not to rely on things outside your self. And it seems all we do is rely on things outside ourselves.

I guess my question is. How do we navigate this life accordingly, so as to create peace with those we find disagreeable and/or heavily dependent on the worlds drama for their life experience? I say this knowing narratives today have been construed, information online has been taken out of context and polarization has been intentionally employed as a tactical weapon by those who wish to steer the course of humanity.

Do we fight each other and say- you are wrong! This is actually what's going on in the world!
Do we close ourselves off to the other and say- Oh, how mislead my Brother/Sister has been! They are totally indoctrinated, and therefore I must distance myself from them!

I recognize I am more than my body. But I came here to experience 3D physicality, this I can say with certainty as my individual preference. I am choosing to find the harmony between This Life, a life of duality and Spiritual life- a life of oneness. It isn't easy, and I am far from tempering my personality or taming my Ego- sometimes, I willingly rebel against the idea.

In a world of hot and cold, right and wrong- how do we recognize who one calls evil another calls great and bridge the differences our attachments create?

How do we create peace with those in our environment who appear so hypertensive as a consequence of living totally online AND/OR totally inside their heads?

I guess these are my thoughts I have been wanting to get out and welcome your feedback.

Namaste~

Although I get your point, I think there is a very good side of the internet and outside information; that is we are able to get information on what atrocities and cruelty is being done to other human beings, that we may not have experienced if we were in a news blackout. We can know for instance that Chinese Communism is using their meditation population for organ harvesting. And makes claims that for instance, Taiwan is theirs, when we know full well it is an independent country free from Chinese indoctrination. And we are privy to the aggressive tactics of the Chinese military on Jet Planes of other countries as well as boats by the the Chinese military. Here is an example of the benefits of internet information in making decisions as how to combat the evil of Chinese Communism;

Allegations of forced organ harvesting from Falun Gong practitioners and other political prisoners in China have raised concern within the international community.[1][2][3] According to a report by former lawmaker David Kilgour, human rights lawyer David Matas and journalist Ethan Gutmann of the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation, political prisoners, mainly Falun Gong practitioners, are being executed "on demand" in order to provide organs for transplant to recipients.[1][2] Reports have said that organ harvesting has been used to advance the Chinese Communist Party's persecution of Falun Gong[4] and because of the financial incentives available to the institutions and individuals involved in the trade.[5][6] A report by The Washington Post has disputed some of the allegations, saying that China does not import sufficient quantities of immunosuppressant drugs, used by transplant recipients, to carry out such quantities of organ harvesting.[7]

Reports on systematic organ harvesting from Falun Gong prisoners first emerged in 2006, though the practice is alleged to have started at least six years earlier.[8][9] Several researchers—most notably Matas, Kilgour and Gutmann—estimate that tens of thousands of Falun Gong prisoners of conscience have been killed to supply a lucrative trade in human organs and cadavers and that these abuses may be ongoing.[10] These conclusions are based on a combination of statistical analysis; interviews with former prisoners, medical authorities and public security agents; and circumstantial evidence, such as the large number of Falun Gong practitioners detained extrajudicially in China and the profits to be made from selling organs.[6

Wikipedia

Let us take this statement you made above:

“How do we create peace with those in our environment who appear so hypertensive as a consequence of living totally online AND/OR totally inside their heads?“

My answer is that it is God’s intention we are to live together and we were put on this planet to see how we would get along. Many people live more ‘inside their head’ and live like they had their heads buried in the ground, in a make believe world of their own fantasy and illusions. When we ‘rub’ against others, we round off and smooth our rough edges.

Furthermore I would like to relate a personal experience that recently helped me tremendously because of the internet and outside information. I made friends and became attached to a ‘woman’ that texted me and we talked for sometime. Fortunately I did not take up on her offers and did a search with her photos on the Internet with Google/images to find out she was not even the person she made out to be: it was someone else entirely!