Analog

[SI]

YouTube videos and most all digital playback, just doesn't convey emotion, no soul. IMO.

Steve might remember how much we listened to music playing records, or reel to reel, how it made you feel. No wonder nobody sits and listens anymore, it's all been brickwalled and compressed 0's and 1's. Fatiguing. Non-engaging.

I have a vinyl copy of this, recorded live in 65: (on a great system you can literally feel the emotion, here on youtube it's a shadow of what it really sounds like)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTkyDEEXkFE&ab_channel=BenWebster-Topic


Peter Ledermann of Soundsmith, who makes low to high end cartridges for turntables puts it nicely into perspective, listen carefully it's a bit technical: (have to embed as code to start video and certain time)

Code:

https://youtu.be/KpP78G_nIls?t=1925

Makes me wonder how much music has impacted society over the years, has the medium changed the way the latest generations feel about music? Because of the soul-less medium, who can really connect and feel the emotion thru their toy phones? IMO all that is gone. Just sounds and beats and autotune.

What are the differences in how we were affected in the analog age, and how it affects you now, subconsciously?

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Ben plays sax with no effects. Very unusual. His improv is right on; after the noodling he’s right back in the melody. And his pitch impeccable. That’s why he is able to record like that. Only 30 listens??? It’s very raw talent with no processors to hide anything and therefore admirable from a musicians point of you, Very transparent and nothing to hide any  non existing flaws. However, perhaps from a young audience used to what can be done to the final production? Far different than say a recording by George Micheal who I think has an excellent voice and say his sax player on Careless Whispers. Totally electronically manufactured. But then again that’s a whole different medium. Having heard your opinion of something I did makes me a bit slow to an appraisal beyond that. I have had raw recordings also. You have to take it for what what it is is and the medium it exemplifies. Certainly the sound of processed electronically generated Black Sabbath sound; is going to be incredibly different… then a raw folk rock sound original we practiced in the back room or for that matter a group of recognized rehearsing artists we all recognize in rehearsal!

I at one time , much younger then , evaluated Dylan on his poor voice, but now I recognize I missed the point…. That was the content and message along with the memorable message and unusual style and personality of for instance a Willie Nelson or a Bob Dylan. We become more appreciative and see things more clear as we grow in awareness. That’s my take on it. I don’t expect anyone else to have to agree. These recordings below illustrate my points above….

[Jitendra Hydonus]

"My Back Pages"

Crimson flames tied through my ears
Rollin' high and mighty traps
Pounced with fire on flaming roads
Using ideas as my maps
"We'll meet on edges, soon," said I
Proud 'neath heated brow
Ah, but I was so much older then
I'm younger than that now.

Half-wracked prejudice leaped forth
"Rip down all hate," I screamed
Lies that life is black and white
Spoke from my skull, I dreamed
Romantic facts of musketeers
Foundationed deep, somehow
Ah, but I was so much older then
I'm younger than that now.

Girls' faces formed the forward path
From phony jealousy
To memorizing politics
Of ancient history
Flung down by corpse evangelists
Unthought of, though, somehow
Ah, but I was so much older then
I'm younger than that now.

A self-ordained professor's tongue
Too serious to fool
Spouted out that liberty
Is just equality in school
"Equality," I spoke their word
As if a wedding vow
Ah, but I was so much older then
I'm younger than that now.

In a soldier's stance, I aimed my hand
At the mongrel dogs who teach
Fearing not I'd become my enemy
In the instant that I preach
My existence led by confusion boats
Mutiny from stern to bow
Ah, but I was so much older then
I'm younger than that now.

Yes, my guard stood hard when abstract threats
Too noble to neglect
Deceived me into thinking
I had something to protect
Good and bad, I define these terms
Quite clear, no doubt, somehow
Ah, but I was so much older then
I'm younger than that now.

~ Dylan

[SI]

What I'm mostly saying is, because we are now a society that mostly consumes music thru a phone or youtube or digital streaming, and does not even understand the soul and life that analog recordings have. I'm not referring to live music, rather being able to experience something that has been lost and literally falls on deaf ears.

Subconsciously it affects you, and I'm glad I can see thru it. Hold music, store music, commercial music, etc. I can't stand most all of it. I don't like being force fed music and compressed digital sound. But society as a whole could care less.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

What I'm mostly saying is, because we are now a society that mostly consumes music thru a phone or youtube or digital streaming, and does not even understand the soul and life that analog recordings have. I'm not referring to live music, rather being able to experience something that has been lost and literally falls on deaf ears.

Subconsciously it affects you, and I'm glad I can see thru it. Hold music, store music, commercial music, etc. I can't stand most all of it. I don't like being force fed music and compressed digital sound. But society as a whole could care less.

Well in fact a lot of people are going back to albums. You cannot even buy cds in many stores today and vintage record stores are selling primarily albums. However SI if you really want to be a purist about this whole thing …. let’s go back to the symphonic days when we had real instruments and not sampled ones.

[SI]

Well in fact a lot of people are going back to albums. You cannot even buy cds in many stores today and vintage record stores are selling primarily albums. However SI if you really want to be a purist about this whole thing …. let’s go back to the symphonic days when we had real instruments and not sampled ones.

You're missing the point. The resurgence in vinyl is just a kids thing, a fad, it's cool. These guys are buying kenner close n plays. CD's are gone cause you can stream with online services, why buy a CD if digital recordings sound great to you?

It's not a purist issue. It's about analog recordings. Did you even hear what Ledermann had to say? It's not about real instruments vs sampled ones.

Not many get it, I don't expect you to get it either, or to even care. I'm just stating something I think has affected society as a whole. It's really no big deal. If folks like the sound of their iPhone that's great. I get looks all the time if I even mention a record. So I gave up as I should have here.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Well in fact a lot of people are going back to albums. You cannot even buy cds in many stores today and vintage record stores are selling primarily albums. However SI if you really want to be a purist about this whole thing …. let’s go back to the symphonic days when we had real instruments and not sampled ones.

You're missing the point. The resurgence in vinyl is just a kids thing, a fad, it's cool. These guys are buying kenner close n plays. CD's are gone cause you can stream with online services, why buy a CD if digital recordings sound great to you?

It's not a purist issue. It's about analog recordings. Did you even hear what Ledermann had to say? It's not about real instruments vs sampled ones.

Not many get it, I don't expect you to get it either, or to even care. I'm just stating something I think has affected society as a whole. It's really no big deal. If folks like the sound of their iPhone that's great. I get looks all the time if I even mention a record. So I gave up as I should have here.

Well to be quite frank with you i enjoy the most listening 👂 not by analog or streaming but rather using my Om board for the sound of Om. At times it sounds much like this song I wrote at the very end….



I like waking up in the middle of the nite and listening to my breath with a mantra and then listening for the sound of Om using an Om board…. Overall my listening pleasures, due to its variable sound characteristics, I would term it analog in its audio output in my head.

[SI]

Well that derailed and exploded into a brick wall.