Sri Yukteswar Yuga Diagram

[guest587]

Mccoy, those are wonderful examples. Thank you~

But I wonder, because things like telepathy are possible now- but will be more common place in a future where technology assist this reality... Like thoughts to text technology. Or thoughts to - whatever device, like thinking about turning on the lights to your house.

So... Could technological advances be misconstrued for literal interpretation?

[mccoy]

Mccoy, those are wonderful examples. Thank you~

But I wonder, because things like telepathy are possible now- but will be more common place in a future where technology assist this reality... Like thoughts to text technology. Or thoughts to - whatever device, like thinking about turning on the lights to your house.

So... Could technological advances be misconstrued for literal interpretation?

Eric, I'm aware of Neuralink's research, that would fall into electronics, computer science and neuroscience, so it would constitute Dwapara stuff.

I'm not sure I understood your last question

[guest587]

Well, I think what I'm trying to ask is- can the annihilation of time and space be literal? Swami Vidyadhishanda has described monks that meditate in caves who can communicate with inter-dimensional beings. How is it that advanced life can operate outside of time and space? Might these creatures be less dense compared to lifeforms bound to linear time? Maybe one day we alleviate the load and transcend our 3D awareness. I'm not sure we need any technological, materialistic marvels to experience that. It seems one possible explanation of unidentified aerial phenomenon is that what we perceive in 3D is only a partial glimpse of a ship from a higher dimension.

Your points are valid, and I agree with them. Consistent and easy to understand. My point is, we don't need neuralink to realize the actuality behind telepathy. We don't need external devices to transcend space and time. What is astral travel??

[mccoy]

OK, Eric, I understand, but before saying: "we don't need technology to experience telepathy or spacetime annihilation" we must be sure that we are actually capable of reading thoughts or teleporting our awareness everywhere we want. I may be very dumb or incapable, but after decades of meditation, I still cannot read thoughts or teleport my consciousness.

[guest587]

I don't think you're dumb. It's definitely a process, one that may take thousands of years to understand. I know topics like reincarnation were at one point shunned by religion. It's strange thing even today people are shy to share their experiences. What we have is a seed, and possibly a sprout. Yet we can look at Yogananda's example, who telepathically spoke with Sri Yukteswaraji form overseas in AoY. I do not claim to control my experiences. I don't claim mastery. I have had premonitions. Things that are random and make you question whether they have any importance. Like last night, I dreamt of my Sister. In my dream I tried to help her. After waking up, and by complete surprise, I learned she is coming to visit tonight.
There are events that happen in our lives that are hard to understand, and one day it'll come together and make sense. As if the hand of the divine had been there all along, a true guidance system.
I've had out of body experiences, and I have had moments where friends and I have confirmed things we were thinking about the other in the exact moment. LaurenLoo, a member here, has also experienced a bit of telepathy.

Our slightly scratching the surface, does not mean we are masters. Another example... I am always trying to go "UP" in my out of body experiences. To me this is a mark of my ignorance with the astral realm. When we are out of body, why do we feel the need to go up? Considering energy and mass are intertwined, these forms are just holograms. Waves. I've tried recreating my own OBE with little success, so it would seem there's something that needs understanding. But I am learning we don't always need to visualize, "projecting" out of our physical body.

Even the definitions of terms is not agreed upon. God being the most obvious example. So we have terminology we do not fully understand. Realms we've barley touched, and life experiences that are not welcomed in social circles.

To think we can experience telepathy like the Masters, or teleport like Babaji and his disciples, to me- is not impossible... I do think it is quite rare, and requires dedication and guidance. This entire topic is about entering in a new age. Maybe a thousand years from now this kind of knowledge will be more common place- and not dependent on external devices.

There is also a matter of Faith. One of my favorite expressions... If your faith is strong enough God will speak to you even in objects like stone. Yet if you haven't any faith, not even the God in Heavens can answer you. This power of belief, is a noble quality... And one that literally brings the magic of ALL GOD to life in most fascinating and wonderful ways.

Where you are and who you are is perfectly valid. Even the expression of doubt is a most healthy one. What matters is Living from the Heart. And in so doing, Love will reveal much.

[guest587]

I am learning more about the astral. I have my tentacles in all matter of interest, including in other forums. I am keeping an astral projection journal elsewhere... This persons reply has really helped me... And I think it says something about exploring uncharted realms with an open heart and mind.

You're welcome tides; I'm glad if that gives some ideas.

I don't think the desire to go UP is silly; misunderstood after some point, ok maybe. For me, the desire to launch into space and the stars was and still is quite exciting. The expression of pure freedom of flight, control and my sense of empowerment and independence once I had this ability in the Non-Physical Reality was such a soul-expanding, consciousness-raising experience beyond most everything before. So, I think I fairly recognize the early value of the experience; what I missed was possibly that at some point our NP teachers use that experience, or the denial of it, to teach us to look elsewhere for our next lesson.

So maybe the desire to fly into space eventually is recast as another form of excitement, or a form of emotion to be understood and controlled. We learn the hard way, usually, of the earlier emotions to be brought under control-Fear is almost always the first, followed soon by sexual desire. Most of us spend a fair amount of time lost within fear and sex, until we learn balance and control. Then often follows various forms of confusion, distraction and excitement. Each of these needs repeated exposure in order to recognize them and maintain our composure. And we seem to all get tested and re-tested and quizzed on these older subjects even as new subjects are presented. So, maybe the excitement of flying skyward eventually becomes recast as just another form of excitement or distraction, but only in the temporary sense to teach us to look elsewhere for the next lesson. I would hate to think that in the future I will never be allowed the occasional spaceshot, lol!

So, the next time you find yourself in a NP environment- Stop and observe and ask inwardly- What is the lesson I am supposed to learn here? Then go with the flow.

Your descriptions are excellent and I’m enjoying the journal.

Cheers to you!

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_projection_experiences/projection_journal_tides2dust_entries_past_experiences_notes_and_questions-t48007.0.html;msg377852#msg377852

Here, people from all over have come together to communicate about astral travel. Which validates your point and may even show the age we're in! How can I knock technological marvels? I am not trying to do that at all.. If anything, it is all a reflection of MIND. I am FOR technology. My gripe with technology is that it is MAN who has hindered our own progress, destroying zero point energy systems at an early age to prolong profit. Creating new systems that will enslave and not liberate. We have the technology to provide clean water, cure cancer and so much more... Yet we've kept the real marvels hidden- some are used for wars and others are used for those wealthy elite who consider themselves the "hands of destiny." Perhaps even another sign of the fact that we are still somewhat in dark ages. 

[mccoy]

I wonder if you can go beyond the event horizon of a black hole by astral travel and return to describe the experience...

[guest587]

Again, I don't really have much control. I still think there needs to be a body similar to what we have in this physical reality and I'm learning that's not true. It's a process. I am having to unlearn what we learn in physical. Awareness isn't so... single-pointed. We are so anchored to our bodies we forget the larger Self capital S. I truly believe, ALL GOD. In the expression... Forms are many, Soul is One.

The only time I can recall shooting past the stars, was in 2008. I believe I was assisted, initiated by the peacock angel at the dream level. It took 10 years to realize that's what happened. And still I don't have the answers.

Whenever I try to go past the stars now, things become a blur and I fall out of the experience.

In 2008, when I shot past the stars- everything was tiny particles and geometric shapes. They moved in and out with the breath. That's when I realized the intimate reality of a Universe within.

Thanks to Steve for creating this forum, I was able to archive that experience here...
http://spiritualportal.net/index.php/topic,822.msg4625.html#msg4625 3 dreams that have lead down a spiritual path

And even then I did not write about it until 2 years after the experience.

Mccoy, I wouldn't rely on others. Maybe you can pray to God and ask this question... Ask before you go to sleep, ask in prayer... Maybe answers will come. I like the astralpulse forum because it helps others who wish to experience an OBE.

In the end, I go back to my recent revelations... Truth is all there is and we're having a personal experience with it.

Your journey is unique, as are your interest- the way you understand and view life, and so much more. It's a beautiful thing.

<3 Pranams.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

I wonder if you can go beyond the event horizon of a black hole by astral travel and return to describe the experience...

I have read (Robert Monroe) that in the higher ages most human beings here on earth are no longer confined by a body. Rather going into and out of bodies; they are used more or less as a reference point.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

OK, Eric, I understand, but before saying: "we don't need technology to experience telepathy or spacetime annihilation" we must be sure that we are actually capable of reading thoughts or teleporting our awareness everywhere we want. I may be very dumb or incapable, but after decades of meditation, I still cannot read thoughts or teleport my consciousness.

What I have found by observing your progress; is that you are a excellent social arbitrator. I am of the strong opinion that psychic feats, although quite fascinating, are not a sign of advanced spirituality. This is what I was told many times by monks and nuns. In fact their are those with ‘gifts’ of the spirit who do not use them wisely and therefore they ‘take a fall’ spiritually speaking. It can be a kind of ‘spiritual ego’ Still I can appreciate the experiences of Eric throughout his stay here and others with psychic abilities also. Although Paramahansa Yogananda spoke highly of the development of the reasoning capacity of human beings. He also spoke of the combination of reason and intuition as important to spiritual development. These qualities attract friends and people who seek council as they did for King Solomon. Even more important than psychic gifts developed by spiritual discipline.

We do not always choose what are gifts are in spirit , yet I have found,  if our interests take us in a certain direction because of our desires, we also may be given gifts and abilities in those areas. This I have found out through personal experiences. The test then becomes; how will we use such gifts and abilities. To serve our spiritual Self, or our desires?

To those who have been given: much is required! It is also expressed in the Bible slightly different;

The verse “From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked” comes from Luke 12:48 where it concerns knowing the Lord’s will for our life.

[mccoy]

We do not always choose what are gifts are in spirit , yet I have found,  if our interests take us in a certain direction because of our desires, we also may be given gifts and abilities in those areas. This I have found out through personal experiences. The test then becomes; how will we use such gifts and abilities. To serve our spiritual Self, or our desires?
To those who have been given: much is required! It is also expressed in the Bible slightly different;
The verse “From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked” comes from Luke 12:48 where it concerns knowing the Lord’s will for our life.

Darn right! With abilities, come responsibilities.

[guest587]

And with that, you say that a golden age is about 10,000 years from now... Wow.

And where we are, might well be reflected in this wisdom shared by Steve

To actually have all our impulses arising from God and not from a 'sensitive ego' would be quite an accomplisment. Perhaps many of us here have spiritual and Godly inspirations and impulses but we still are at the stage of differentiating them between worldly and ego thoughts.

Taken from,
http://spiritualportal.net/index.php/topic,4401.0.html - Religious Gathekas
Hmm?

Since there are individuals no matter the age where it feels as if they're a message of Hope, I am talking about common place behavior and social constructs.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

It interests me that at various times we can focus more easily on certain subjects and certain practices. The idea of the Yugas now has taken my interest.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Dear Steve,

I wanted to include this in your thread discussing the various Yugas we find ourselves evolving through. I could not find it using the search feature. I typed "Yugas" in the search bar atop the forum and got 34 pages of results. So maybe, instead, you can comment on the Yugas here with regards to this film and your comment to Patrick below

But I sincerely think you have been brainwashed by our culture to believe things that are based on a social perspective of the dark ages. Its not one person against another. It is an honest statement from my view.

I did find this thread,
http://spiritualportal.net/index.php/topic,8047.0.html




If we are progressing through the ages, and this was only 50 years ago- I wonder what age history will portray us in?

I don't think we're in the Golden Age, but I do think we're coming out of the Dark Ages.

So I wonder if anyone here can comment on either, I believe the power dynamic and the psychology behind these events worthy of spiritual contemplation. I also wonder, at what age do we recognize our oneness with Gods creation?

Eric I would rather have the discussion you initiated at another thread continue here since you have included some very political actions and people in your last entry in another thread. Richard Nixon and Nelson Rockefeller are not any version of laudable spiritual integrity and cannot be mentioned without incredible distaste to most young people living during that time. Since you included my comment to Patrick-out of context - it really doesn’t warrant any response here.

I do think that this is a good place to discuss the yugas. Actions such as what happened at Attica and Kent State, reflect remnants of the Kali Yuga and dark ages hanging over into the bronze or Dwapara Yuga we presently are experiencing.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Uwi
I can see you go for the progressive type music. ...

I go by the name of Uwe. (For Muricans, it is pronounced as Oovah)

You're right in so far, as progressive rock was my first musical inspiration next to classical music, back in the mid-1970s, and it got me hooked. I was even gonna play keyboard in a locally well-flourishing Jethro Tull cover-band at my early age of 15, but it didn't happen as my dad didn't shelve out the money for an e-piano I'd asked him to buy for me (a Fender Rhodes then was available for roughly one thousand DM which my parents couldn't afford). So I only got to play in sessions with different borrowed instruments and spontaneously in instrument stores. Think of the movie Blues Brothers with Ray Charles as the owner of an instrument-store...

So here's what got me hooked on to music in the first place, the same time I got hooked on spirituality by reading the AOY by Sri Sri Paramahansa Yoganandaji for the first time in my life:



As my generation's parents usually were children of the second world war, who were generally hardly able to give their own (latter) children a hug, due to the atrocities they'd went thru during their own childhood, when they had no chance but to grow up fast and quickly, escaping the "firestorm" on foot to what was then named as Eastern Prussia (today the North-East of Poland) and hardly arriving there, having to escape back from the Russian offensive, finally arriving back "home", which meanwhile had been bombed to ruins and ravel. Hunger, rape, murder, and theft always on their heels as kids (! so my dad told me when I myself was a kid). Today hardly anyone remembers these things, as that generation has been vanishing...

Thanks for all the information on your background! We grew up here with the horror of the Viet Nam War, not to mention all the other sham wars to protect the investments of the riche around the world. Afghanistan and Iraq included. I see Ukraine as something different, I mean, the U.S. also was involved with WWII but we were attacked by Japan and Ukraine was attacked by Russia. The French helped us in our Revolutionary War so I see it as part of other countries responsibility that enjoy freedom to help other free loving nations. And to not ignore their calls for help as we asked for help, in our war for democracy. Until we are one world any alien race would see us as quite barbaric. Yogananda predicted there would one day be a United States of the World. But recall that the Bhagavad Gita took place in a higher age then even now, and that too was a war.

My humble opinions here. Your country was towed away by a minority of power hungry people. The same thing that has happened here with Furhrer Trump. Fortunately we have kept him from expanding his ego ambitions for the future to overthrow our democracy in the same way that Hitler and his Nazi party caused hell to Europe.

Ah, yes, thanks for the link. I was forgetting about that meaning: Samdhi, the transition between two Yugas. In a way, we are still in the Samdhi between Kali and Dwapara, at least as far as social conditions are concerned. Not the whole world has fully transitioned.

As far as I understood, Dwapara is about solving the illusion of space (among other things, predominantly through science, we already have many examples for this, such as airplanes, phones, internet, etc.), while Treta Yuga shall be about transcending the illusion of time.

Not sure about social conditions when it comes to Dwapara yuga. Wars, famines, etc. will probably accompany mankind on Earth well deep into Dwapara?

Most spiritual authorities put Krishna’s birth at approximately 5,000 years ago, which was in at least, a period that was comparable to today, it was in the descending Dwapara Yuga. Today we are in the ascending Dwapara Yuga.

The Gita is generally considered to pre-date. The Christian era. The testimony of the Mahabharata itself is that the Kurukshetra War took place toward the end of the Dwapara yoga, when the world was on the verge of descending into the dark age of the Kali Yuga. ~Yogananda; God talks with Arjuna