Position of Eyes in Meditation

[Goldwolf]

 Thanks friends. Your support means everything to me. From the day I first looked at the cover of Autobiograpy of a Yogi until today a lot has happened. By no means am I perfect. I'm a decent person who tries to do the right thing but the rules and/or guide lines for a yogi is harder so though greatly improved from where I started I still have a long way to go.

  For instance my friends I wrote on I think maybe only this board about my difficulty with the Om technique. For a while I only had minimal results. I would notice parts working such as hearing various sounds in my body while the sound of God's voice, the cosmic vibration, still eluded me. Or I God. I worked on this technique a lot and now this is no longer true.

  At first Om would only work on seemingly random days. The first time it happened I was in disbelief or shock. It's like a person who witnesses a miracle and because it's not the norm still denies it for a while. Well, the second time was different. I felt as though I knew I was going to die the astral Om sound was so loud. After ups and downs for months or years (please excuse me, I'm still catching up to myself!) so after some time the irregularity just left. I can now succesfully do the technique everytime and I am pleased to say I can get it going within a few seconds.

  It is my personal experience in Om that whatever I need God will give me. In Om I feel as though I am moving through God. I can move through God and feel different positive spiritual vibrations. Anything you can think of is already there. Om is always new. Sometimes it's as if I'm traveling through Om and sometimes it's as though I let go of even my choice to do this and just let God take me where he (she) will. My state of spirituality is becoming where through God's blessing I can finally express effectively my love for yoga meditation because I know the words to say now as well as the meditation itself being that much better as well as proof of God's existance that I can brag about.

  I'm not sure my heart can hold all the love I am so pleased with my success with the Om technique as well as pleased to share this with my friends, I love you all, surely we are brothers and sisters. Because of my ectatic state I have to remind myself that there is more to do. I still have to learn Kriya but at least I won't feel as though I am a failure until I do so. Maybe I shouldn't remind myself that I am over ten years late already for Kriya! Surely I am one of God's stupidest students. The worst yogi on the planet. I'm last in line with several faults but I am full of God's love and love for others. I pray that by God's grace to learn Kriya next year. At least I'm not stressed about it. See you in cyberspace friends

Sat Tat Om

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Thanks friends. Your support means everything to me. From the day I first looked at the cover of Autobiograpy of a Yogi until today a lot has happened. By no means am I perfect. I'm a decent person who tries to do the right thing but the rules and/or guide lines for a yogi is harder so though greatly improved from where I started I still have a long way to go.

  For instance my friends I wrote on I think maybe only this board about my difficulty with the Om technique. For a while I only had minimal results. I would notice parts working such as hearing various sounds in my body while the sound of God's voice, the cosmic vibration, still eluded me. Or I God. I worked on this technique a lot and now this is no longer true.

  At first Om would only work on seemingly random days. The first time it happened I was in disbelief or shock. It's like a person who witnesses a miracle and because it's not the norm still denies it for a while. Well, the second time was different. I felt as though I knew I was going to die the astral Om sound was so loud. After ups and downs for months or years (please excuse me, I'm still catching up to myself!) so after some time the irregularity just left. I can now succesfully do the technique everytime and I am pleased to say I can get it going within a few seconds.

  It is my personal experience in Om that whatever I need God will give me. In Om I feel as though I am moving through God. I can move through God and feel different positive spiritual vibrations. Anything you can think of is already there. Om is always new. Sometimes it's as if I'm traveling through Om and sometimes it's as though I let go of even my choice to do this and just let God take me where he (she) will. My state of spirituality is becoming where through God's blessing I can finally express effectively my love for yoga meditation because I know the words to say now as well as the meditation itself being that much better as well as proof of God's existance that I can brag about.

  I'm not sure my heart can hold all the love I am so pleased with my success with the Om technique as well as pleased to share this with my friends, I love you all, surely we are brothers and sisters. Because of my ectatic state I have to remind myself that there is more to do. I still have to learn Kriya but at least I won't feel as though I am a failure until I do so. Maybe I shouldn't remind myself that I am over ten years late already for Kriya! Surely I am one of God's stupidest students. The worst yogi on the planet. I'm last in line with several faults but I am full of God's love and love for others. I pray that by God's grace to learn Kriya next year. At least I'm not stressed about it. See you in cyberspace friends

Sat Tat Om

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[Katze]

Goldwolf, shall we try this again ? Welcome back, dancing up and down with joy at your return   how's that ?  you apology is accepted, thank you

I am happy to hear you are feeling so connected with OM !

blessings,
Into Blue

[Goldwolf]

  Thank you Into Blue, Gonefishin and Steve. As all our lives are connected my friends through your support I built myself into a better person. Into Blue I been reading your posts for a while and Steve I can eisily recall reading your great posts over the last couple years. To find wisdom in a friend is priceless and Steve has and endless amount. There is so much on this board I can stop pretending I don't have some catching up to do. There's no way I can comment on every post and that wouldn't make much sense at all but God put this in my life and I am going to learn from it or continue to do so rather.

[Beatrice Landcaster]

  Thank you Into Blue, Gonefishin and Steve. As all our lives are connected my friends through your support I built myself into a better person. Into Blue I been reading your posts for a while and Steve I can eisily recall reading your great posts over the last couple years. To find wisdom in a friend is priceless and Steve has and endless amount. There is so much on this board I can stop pretending I don't have some catching up to do. There's no way I can comment on every post and that wouldn't make much sense at all but God put this in my life and I am going to learn from it or continue to do so rather.

Ah comon' goldy lox that Steve is just a road side philosopher. He's gotta lot of hot steam comin' out of the kettle. It makes my head vaporize just to think of it. Let me give ya the real stuff. Fill up on a little of my moonshine special and you'll see the world through a golden halo. I mix it with a little hot honey so it goes down smoothly when I a start preachin' it. I'm tellin' ya son ya got to get your soul saved. You all know what I'm talkin' about. That's what I've been talkin' about all along. Just gotta get in da rhythm of things goldy. ya been to influenced by some high atmospheric pressure. By those meteorologist sages on the weather channel. Rest in ma's arms babe you'll be O.K.

Beady

[Jitendra Hydonus]

...the manner of verbally or writting apologies or such...  seems when sincere to be a state of awareness of being grateful... of moving beyond... learning, growing.

we may consider that "shame" is a sin... see "The Holy Science".    why shame a sin ? 

we are not the action -- although the law of cause and effect (karma) from actions may come...   if we continue to attach to past patterns / former completed actions because of "shame" everytime we recall, then we will continue to be pounded by the waves of the karmas... instead, pull the weed and plant a flower in it's place.    it is just as easy to exhibit a good habit as a bad habit... it's often simply a matter of recognition, and harnessing will power to erode the pattern of addiction, and grooves set by repeated moments of addictive actions of bad habit...

but I spout on in words perhaps not relevant...  namaste... 

It seems to me that we see our lives take on certain trends over the years. Past patterns are not so easy to expunge from our consciousness and thus we feel shame because we still play the old grooves. Seeing the trends of our life eroding the patterns of addiction we take some comfort that we are headed in the right direction. There is nothing static. We are either moving forward or going backwards, No one can determine our strides but God. Yet at times we are reflective and want to see progress. Otherwise it become discouraging . Perhaps this is part of the cause of the shame.

Jitendra

[blue nova]

no...no going backwards soul will travel    it can stagnate.....stay still...yet it cannot go backwards.

evolution happens...on a constant basis.  evolution moves fowards....not backwards.

god sees no bad. only Love and Fowards he / she sees....progression.

if we seem to go backwards....then we should stop, take good hard look , reflection/introspection.....and then, we may see that life, aint so bad...we, are not so bad....

??

(((Hugs)))

[Beatrice Landcaster]

no...no going backwards soul will travel    it can stagnate.....stay still...yet it cannot go backwards.

evolution happens...on a constant basis.  evolution moves fowards....not backwards.

god sees no bad. only Love and Fowards he / she sees....progression.

if we seem to go backwards....then we should stop, take good hard look , reflection/introspection.....and then, we may see that life, aint so bad...we, are not so bad....

??

(((Hugs)))

Honey you aint' goin' backwards or forwards ya all been zigzagging sideways. You oughta take that sidewinder off and take a fresh approach to things. Smell the roses honey. There's no forward; ya all should be just goin' upwards. Forward is just taken you into one hell of a mess. You can't win for loosin'. Once you see the light honey you'll be alrite.

Beatrice Landcaster

[Jitendra Hydonus]

no...no going backwards soul will travel    it can stagnate.....stay still...yet it cannot go backwards.

evolution happens...on a constant basis.  evolution moves fowards....not backwards.

god sees no bad. only Love and Fowards he / she sees....progression.

if we seem to go backwards....then we should stop, take good hard look , reflection/introspection.....and then, we may see that life, aint so bad...we, are not so bad....

??

(((Hugs)))

Honey you aint' goin' backwards or forwards ya all been zigzagging sideways. You oughta take that sidewinder off and take a fresh approach to things. Smell the roses honey. There's no forward; ya all should be just goin' upwards. Forward is just taken you into one hell of a mess. You can't win for loosin'. Once you see the light honey you'll be alrite.

Beatrice Landcaster

i 've got a question for you Beady. What makes you such an expert on all these varied subjects? Did you learn this from your husband... your children? Or does it all come naturally?

Steve

[blue nova]

love u too Beady....

 

(((Hugs))) <3<3<3
bn

[Jitendra Hydonus]

pranams and warmest regards,  we may consider...

there is a time and a season for all things...  there is no wasted effort, it's simply a matter of relativity... there is no timeline, no schedule... each is unique, and only each will know how it is to unfold... as it unfolds...   

namaste

Please remember until that time and season comes; one such as myself is thinking of you and Into Blue. i have not heard from you for a while but there is 'no timeline...no schedule.....

Steve

[Katze]

pranams and warmest regards,  we may consider...

there is a time and a season for all things...  there is no wasted effort, it's simply a matter of relativity... there is no timeline, no schedule... each is unique, and only each will know how it is to unfold... as it unfolds...   

namaste

Please remember until that time and season comes that one such as myself is thinking of you and Into Blue. i have not heard from you for a while but there is 'no timeline...no schedule

Steve

Steve you are in my thoughts and prayers , even when my presence here is absent. Thank you for your thoughts.

Greetings to namaste2All also.

peace, love & (((hugs)))
Into Blue

[Giancarlo]

Just let the eyes rest gently as they will during both Deep Meditation and Spinal Breathing. Nothing special happens with the eyes when the attention reaches the brow at the end of the in-breath during Spinal Breathing.

You may find at some point that your eyes naturally want to rise up during practices, and centre towards the middle of your brow. This is called sambhavi mudra.

If this is happening, then that is fine, as long as any increased energy flows (ecstasy) are not distracting you from your practices.