Message #33415

[Jitendra Hydonus]

It is simply cruelty to animals to hack their heads off. Anyone not seeing this are also cruel to animals and have a double standard by feeling it is ok to murder friendly cows but not ok to murder their pets. In fact unlike dogs and cats, cows provide us with yogurt,milk,cheese, butter, ice cream (the list is so long) and chickens provide us with eggs. Yet how can anyone endure the wanton violence involved in butchering animals who are in fact our friends and provide us with nourishment and are given to us to provide spiritual messages?

I am not here to disrespect or criticize other people’s views or habits but to state my own. It is up to us and are karma as to how we behave, where we eat and how we eat. I am simply fortunate that I have been around gatherings of kind people to animals and have chosen to be as much as possible. Fortunately for me I have that choice.

I remember as a child feeling horrible about seeing my older step brother shooting birds and my grand father taking me to stock yards while my grandmother chopped the heads off her chickens. As an adult I now understand my innate horror to such sites and unlike a child I can now make my own choices about my environment and the cruelty of others…whether I want to be around such people and participate in their violent acts.

Eric; unlike people I have met who knowingly or ignorantly did not know what they were doing ... I have yet to experience persecution from you as I have from other people with different views. There are also  others who are now joining us here who I have witnessed being persecuted for their views. Your views always interest me and I have learned from people like you with different views so I do not find myself as you have stated “ in a disagreement “ with your views but rather have listened to them as attentively and as much as I have had time to do so and at times gained important insights from them. Furthermore I have been moved by people with different views and eating behaviors all my life. Does one behavior make a person unworthy of listening to? If so you should have stopped listening to me a long time ago.

Cheers
 

I once again find myself in a disagreement with your views. I think it's poor taste to lump sump people into an ill-fated definition. You might agree as I pry a little into your views too. It's important to know where you are with your self. I wonder if these ideas about others creates an expectation and ultimately the reality for you? I am surrounded by a loving family of carnivores. They are early to rise and extremely responsible- although we have our heated moments, we are able to work together in a crisis and try to find agreeable solutions. I'd like to think this has less to do with their diet and more to do with their internal compass. Even Gurunath, a Sat Guru you have been moved by, has told inquiring minds that it is okay to eat meat. He did caution to eat plenty of greens too. My point being, I have many examples and experiences with meat eaters that are different from yours. I understand Gods Love is not any more or less potent based on ones eating habits.