Welcome Detlef !

[Charmed*I'msure]

an angelic greeting, how enchanting ! Can you tell me more about the angelic realm ?

Charmed*

[Detlef]

Sorry, I didn't have time to post over the last few days. To many things happening on a personal level, on a spiritual level it feels like very little is happening.

To talk about the Angelic realm I would have to talk about the realm of the Fae, or  the Guardians of the physical realm as well as the Elohim.
This are the three lines of energy that serve All That Is.
The Elohim, I call the master builders, they build all that is physical.
The Guardians of the physical realm keep all that is physical in balance. Mostly call the Fae , and the realm of the Fae runs parallel the physical realm.
The Angelic realm  penetrates all vibrational levels. The angelics assist all beings on their path from source and back.

The Guardians and the Angelics evolve very similar to all other souls, after they served on their very basic levels.
They have the choice to come through the physical realm, like earth, by going through an incarnation cycle.
Most will not incarnate and serve in the non physical realm and the astral realm.
The Elohim are very different in this regard. They come complete into existence, they can move trough the vibrations at "will" , and can incarnate to be of service, yet can not get lost in an incarnation cycle, like the angelics and the guardians. Which means, there is no accumulation of karma for the Elohim.


Regards Detlef

[Charmed*I'msure]

Detlef,that is ok. Do you get the feeling sometimes that things take turns, when something is happening so intensely on a personal level that our spiritual level takes a rest ? Sometimes things get so intense, in both realms and then it is like walking on the edge between the two, the strangest feeling. It is like I am being pulled in two directions at one time.

You have captured my interest on this Angelic realm and the realm of the Fae, sounds magikal * Somewhere in my memory, I have heard of this Elohim, but I cannot remember where exactly. It sounds familiar. Any place, or book that you may have that I could read more about this ? I am not asking to borrow your book, just if you have one to recommend to me ?

love & magik*
Charmed*I'msure

[Detlef]

I can not remember where I read what, in regards the Elohim.
Many see them as highly evolved angels, in the same it is often suggested  those expressions of the Fae energy, fairies, and others evolve into angels.
In my understanding, they have their own line of development, even so once they move into vibrations past the one we are in, it is difficult to distinguish the difference.
If we look at the archangels, most are soul groups, and they are not all angelic.
To my knowledge there are nine archangels, two of them are of the Fae energy, six angelic and there is one who is Elohim.
Grossly miss understood. Lucifer. He holds the dark energy in place on this planet. Without the dark energy there is no learning.
How would we know the light, without the dark.
On an other board I know four who have a connection to an Elohim, or better who are an extension of the Elohim.
Three of them know very well who and what  they are, one of them I don't think so.
The word Elohim comes from the Hebrew.
Elohim is a plural for the word El or Eloah. Which is the first word for God in the Tanakh.
In the beginning God (Elohim) created the heavens and the earth.

this I just found in a web site hebrew4chrisians.com
If Elohim is a plural for god, and god created the heavens and the earth, this fits with my understanding of the Elohim as the master builders. The Elohim come directly from source in my understanding.

Regards

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Detlef

It is nice of you to stay in touch with us. When you speak of these different realms and the angels i wonder how much of this is at a level of experiece and how much is what you have read? i must admit that for me many of the things that i believe i have read. But yet there are many things i have experienced also; which strengthens my faith in what i have read. In many things in life we have to have a faith to keep going because we do not always 'see' results. Yet in subtle ways there are attitude changes taking place that we recognize over the years. You say that not much is happening to you spiritually at this time. Have you considered meditation? It really helps me in having things take place in a spiritual way.

Warm regards and thank you for staying with us.

Steve

[Detlef]

Meditation: what is the definition of meditation?

A practice to raise awareness of self.


In my understanding I am aware of self, I am connected to all parts of my total self, all the time. The connections vary during the day and night, yet they are always there.
When I wrote what I wrote, the connection where not there, and I must say one feels very cut off.
I could establish a connction to my divine self, yet as soon my attention moved somewhere eles briefly, the connection went.
Everything is back to normal for me.
Yes, we read, gather informantion, yet all information needs to be confirmed by self.
Most of us, on these boards have mastered 3D at least once before, there is no need to seek out so called earthly "masters" besides the self. The self has all the answers we need for this life.

Rah nam

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Meditation: what is the definition of meditation?

A practice to raise awareness of self.


In my understanding I am aware of self, I am connected to all parts of my total self, all the time. The connections vary during the day and night, yet they are always there.
When I wrote what I wrote, the connection where not there, and I must say one feels very cut off.
I could establish a connction to my divine self, yet as soon my attention moved somewhere eles briefly, the connection went.
Everything is back to normal for me.
Yes, we read, gather informantion, yet all information needs to be confirmed by self.
Most of us, on these boards have mastered 3D at least once before, there is no need to seek out so called earthly "masters" besides the self. The self has all the answers we need for this life.

Rah nam

If you are indeed connected to every part of yourself: Tell me of my life what i am doing today and tonight. What i do daily. That will convince me because you see you and i are one. You are connected to everything but if you are not completly aware of this connection you~ like me have much further to uncover and realize.

A Master can help us come to that awareness. He or she can take us beyond are limited selves into that greater self. That greater self where we all meet. Where love brings us together Detlef. That love is here. i have felt it in the presence of such a Master. That is where i want to be forever. That is what i look to. Such great ones let us know who we really are. We are soooo fortunate to even be in their presence. When we realize completely that we are one with that love that they realize...than we too will no longer need their presence. Why? Because than we will be that presence ourselves and know it to be true.....In the meantime we practice this art of contact that they have given us. We practice this meditation that reveals to us peace. Then Bliss and joy and finally love itself. It so sweet. i humble myself before the great ones who manifest this love at all times. i practice, serve and try to follow their divine guidance so this bliss and this love will always be there and i may give it to you and everyone i contact. Like they do.....

Jitendra

[Detlef]

I am not here to prove anything to anyone, if I tried it only could come from ego. Not that I don't love my ego, it is there for a reason, and it helps me to sail trough this reality.
But I like to ask you this question, at what point are you prepared to step out and declare your mastery?
You have been there so many times and stepping through will be easy.
I belief you started a post that dealt with intuition = inner knowing?
Follow it.

This is all I will say.

Rah nam
 

[Charmed*I'msure]

Detlef, I have been in another world. Thank you for sharing on the Fae, Elohim and archangels, I find this most enchanting !* This connection you speak of, of others to an Elohim, is this something they have told you of ? It would seem like we each have a connection to other realms, in some way - the tricky part is to know which ones. Thanks for the website link, will look into it.

love & magik*
Charmed *I'msure

[Jitendra Hydonus]

I am not here to prove anything to anyone, if I tried it only could come from ego. Not that I don't love my ego, it is there for a reason, and it helps me to sail trough this reality.
But I like to ask you this question, at what point are you prepared to step out and declare your mastery?
You have been there so many times and stepping through will be easy.
I belief you started a post that dealt with intuition = inner knowing?
Follow it.

This is all I will say.

Rah nam
 

Jesus had several purposes in washing the feet of his disciples. Primariliy, it was to show them the ideal of humbleness expressed in selfless service. "You call me Lord of creation and Master or Guru; and you say it truthfully, for so I am because of my Father's wish. If I, as your guru and as a true manifestaion of the Christ Consciousness that rules all creation, have in humbleness washed your feet, then you ought to serve each other likewise. For I have given you an example, that you should do unto all as I have done to you."

Since the spiritual servant, the disciple is not greater that his Master or Guru as regards his state of realization, and is not equal until he attains final liberation and becomes one with the consciousness of his Master in cosmic consciousness, so also neither Jesus or his disciples, who were sent on the earth by God, could be greater than God. And if God in Jesus served his disciples (who being created by God were subordiate to him), it cetainly behooved them to follow the divine example by humbly serving all, even the least, no matter how high their spiritual status.

Paramahansa Yogananda

....as i am not able as of yet to declare mastery~ i have quoted one who has and so this is my example and hope it answers your question. It is my intuition that has led me here and my intuition that continues to lead me to the feet of Paramahansa Yogananda who was a Master. We have much to learn from each other brother.
i know very little of your path.

Steve

P.S. When this I shall die than I will know who am I.

[Katze]

hi Detlef,

We miss your presence on the forum. I found your posts about the angelic realm most interesting, looking forward to hearing more from you,  in whatever category you would like to join us in.

peace & love,
Into Blue