Message #4277

[Jitendra Hydonus]

this karma idea, if we did not know who or what we did in a past life, how can we 'correct' the karma that is with us today ? seems to be a bit unfair, that we are dealing with things from past lives that we know nothing about.

who can really say they knew what they did in the past, based on what they are experiencing in their current life ?

Spirit fox

Unfair? Is it not unfair that Joseph Stalin got away with murder of so many people? Or is it more fair to say that he did not get away with it? That there is justice for all the people that suffered on his account. For he will come back and deal with the karma for those cirimes. 'Know nothing about?' If you were an alcoholic for your last 6 lives and abused many people; would you want to remember this? Or would it be better to forget so that you had a new chance this life without being connected to all the memories of past lives?
Steve Hydonus

hey, let's cool the astral jets !

I am/was not /  talking about Joseph Stalin or any other such figure from history.

I was talking in general about things being unfair. I personally do not know who I was in a past life, or what I did in any of my past lives. So, how can I know what karma I am bringing with me to this life ? In such a case, is it fair that I ( or anyone else ) is dealing with or having to find ways to get rid of such karma ?

Specifically, do you know who you were in your past lives ? Do you know what you did in your past lives that is dictating what is happening in your current life ? I am not asking you to tell me the specifics,I am not being nosey. I am just asking if you know, really know these things ?

Obviously if I was an alcoholic in any of my past lives, I would not want to remember this - and of course, if I had been I would like to have a new chance in life.

So who came up with this karma idea in the first place ? In a way it seems to me that it is just a new age excuse, a way out of taking responsibility for things. If something is not going well in someone's life, they can just say " oh, this is karma from a past life. Not much I can do about it, it has been following me around for years ! "

Spirit fox

Not sure what you mean here Spirit Fox. Cool my astral jets? i was just giving you something to think about. If we reap what we sow and sow what we reap. i would ask you then how do we recieve good from what we have done and lessons for what we have done wrong? It seems to me that we must take much more responsibilty if this law of kama is true. We can not just blame things on others or our circumstances. Those are the kind of excuses i hear...and by the way there is a lot we can do about it. So that excuse does not fly. Not even a little bit. You have asked a lot of questions here. i am trying to answer them all.

'Who came up with the idea of karma?' Who came up with the idea of a creation? Who came up with the idea of females and males? Who came up with the idea of love and hate? Who came up with anytihng? The answer is that all the great ones have spoke of karma this idea was spoken of by Jesus, Buddha, Krishna, Paramahansa Yogananda, Amma etc. and many great people throughout history. Where have you been dear friend? i heard about karma as a teen ager. It is divine justice. It gives sense to the idea of why a child dies early in life another one is born in a spiritual family and another one is born in a musical family. It gives sense to the idea of why one person is tremendously talented another is tremenduously spiritual. Do you believe that God actually roles the dice and where they fall that is where we a born and what abilities we have?

For those that are kind to others and make an effort and do something with their life; in one way or another they are rewarded. Is that such a hard concept to grasp? For those who show a lack of regard for others they in turn will reap the consequences. Even in the physical world we see this law take place. Newton said that 'for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction'. You ask the question; Is it fair? i ask you is it fair that are head should hurt if we knock it against a wall? Is it fair that we get a ticket for something we did not know about? Ignorance of the laws both physical and spiritual is no excuse. We have a duty as spiritual beings to know those laws... Those laws are clearly stated by the great ones. All we have to do is read them. In excepting the law of karma: we take full responsibility for our lives. Because we recognize that every breath we breath, every thought we think and every move we make there is a higher presence watching us and we are shaping our destiny. The results we will feel the consequences of in our karma...

In Divine Friendship

Jitendra