McCoy's chart

[mccoy]

Steve, I'm curious about this sidereal horoscope and I'll appreciate it if you are going to comment briefly on the chart, since I forgot all the interpretative details

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Steve, I'm curious about this sidereal horoscope and I'll appreciate it if you are going to comment briefly on the chart, since I forgot all the interpretative details

Thanks mccoy perhaps this time we can grow and understand together, since astrology when used correctly is a tool for the evolutionary progression of the soul through and out of it’s imprisonment of bodily consciousness and confinement. You have also helped in my understanding of the procession of the equinoxes and a binary astronomical system for the solar system we presently inhabit. Let us move forward in our understanding and how it affects our personal lives and our souls recognition. Slowly releasing the grip of the ego on everything we encounter in this human dimension.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

You know how it is mccoy play play real McCoy ..or somethin along those lines. I’ve got nuttin to say accept a little chance to say it. So I’ll just say it sooner then later but not before. Ive been workin up to it now. Just want ya all to know. Oh my God;  let me take a silent snooze for a few.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Below is a sidereal chart of Mccoy’s birth.

And this is his tropical chart;



It may be easier to use imageshack.com which you used to bring your chart mccoy. Are you happy with their services and do you have to pay?

Getting to your chart mccoy … this brings up an important point you and I have been chatting about for some time. That is the procession of the equinoxes. Notice that the Sun and our solar system has drifted 23-24 degrees backwards in the past few hundred years so now instead of having a Leo Sun mccoy has a Cancer Sun in the sidereal chart ⬇️ The Sun and Uranus clearly show up in Cancer ♋️ now in the 9th house instead of the 8th in the tropical version. Initially this appears to make more sense to me since the 9th house signifies religious and philosophical beliefs and views. And also with your emphasis on family life Cancer reflects the home and strong family connections.

Remember if we give 30 degrees per sign and subtract 23 degrees from a 14 degree Leo Sun we will get an approximate 21 degree Cancer Sun. If we look 👇 you will see that is the case.
 Get it ? 16 degrees from Leo and and another about 9 degrees from Cancer which adds up to 24 degrees minus for the planets and your Sun drifting against the ‘fixed’ stars.

Looked an different way you can take the 16 degrees from 30 degrees of the sign Leo and get 14 degrees which is your tropical Sun position. Then subtract 9 from 30 degrees and get 21 degrees of cancer when which the correct position in relation to the stars. Nine and sixteen are close to the 23-24 degree change due to the procession factor.

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[Jitendra Hydonus]

Notice in this calculation below….

Your Sun is placed at a few seconds away from 21 degrees of ♋️ Cancer. That is 9 degrees from the end of the sign. In the tropical placement the Sun, it is at approximately 14 degrees (of Leo)  which is 16 degrees away from the end of the sign. Add 16 and 9 and you get 25 degree’s which is close to the 24 degree I mentioned earlier that must be accounted for because of the real position of the stars and some seasonal idea of the signs - which questionably should even be considered for the southern hemisphere.

Hope this can be understood. If not please ask questions. We must also consider that different experts have some differences of opinion as to just how long the procession of the equinoxes lasts until bringing our solar system full circle ⭕️ Between 24,000 and 26,000 years. If we use Sri Yukteswar’s view it would be closer to 24,000 years because at times this procession is faster than at other times. All these factors, no doubt will become more accurate as time moves forward in our planetary evolution and we will also be able to construct a more accurate chart as astrologers as well. This will be more apparent as eastern astrologers accept the western astronomy that has made discovery of trans-Saturn planets and western astrologers accept the place of our little earth in a galaxy framework with the stars, instead of just a localized solar system having its influence from the planets and only the light of the Sun and Moon.

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[Jitendra Hydonus]

On further observation of this solar chart I think it fits your life better since you have influences from other countries which is typical of people with strong 9th house placements. Also your Moon was shown in the sign Aquarius in the tropical chart. I believe the moon shown in your third house here in the sidereal chart and also in Capricorn more accurately describes your cautious practical side of communication which is the meaning of the third house; communication.

Notice that both charts have the same angular relationships to planets and points of the chart. As an example Sun conjunct Uranus is in both charts. By the way that is the same combination I have. And it may interest you to know that Uranus rules astrology thus being strong in both our charts. However subtle changes out shown. Now Venus is separated by sign and so the conjunction of Sun/Uranus is somewhat tempered by the lessening influence of the social and artistic aspects and place instead in the attraction to a career or standing in the world with Venus still shining in ♌️ Leo but in the attraction of a career, instead of the 8th house of mysteries as shown in the tropical chart.

[mccoy]

Thanks Steve, I understand the difference, which is quite substantial, by now you must have noticed that the sidereal method fits individuals better than the classic method.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Thanks Steve, I understand the difference, which is quite substantial, by now you must have noticed that the sidereal method fits individuals better than the classic method.

Yes I’m changing in many ways and astrology is one of them. I can’t really see a rational pretext for example Aries reflecting new beginnings in spring and a pioneer approach in people born in Aries with spring like beginnings; while in Australia it is the beginning of fall there. Would we say they too have Aries qualities? Hmmm

Although I hope you remember the basic geometry of astrology still is the same in both systems. In many ways, including religion and science, people who have a whole reputation of seeing things one way; have difficulty changing to new evidence provided. I do not wish to be that kind of person.

I have also used the whole house system of 30 degrees per sign for the sidereal system which may have some quite different results if I take into account that signs look much different according to where we are born on the earths surface. Take for instance people born in Alaska. The astrological signs would be quite skewed from a visual perspective with many interceptions. Perhaps there are some new terms here, for some of you, and I hope to explain more for those interested.

I intend to put together a transit chart for you and perhaps Eric if he is interested. We should remember that everything-including the rising sign and transits-must be taken back about 24 degrees for the procession of the equinoxes.  So the predictions I made about the intense life changes of Eric happening a few years back are still true because when Pluto crossed his ascendant it was still happening;  just about 24 degrees back but at the same time I predicted.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Hello Mccoy you have a lot of opportunities for your future with the choices you make this life. Because of karmic factors, you were given or were able to choose with a Sun/Venus/Uranus stellium this life. The choices you make will determine much more, what will happen to that conjunction as it separates next manifestation. Given such free choice in decisions is a blessing. Look at your 8th house above on this thread. Many influential factors from others that have influenced your values this life. Some of which you have had to make adjustments to, in your own life, because of such circumstances.

[mccoy]

glad to have a lot of opportunities for my future, I construe that they refer to my next 30 years, which I hope will be active and fruitful, although they sure may be relevant to the further future of next incarnations.

After I started reading the longevity narrative, my outlook of life changed. Before, I thought that at 65 I would have been a pretty old, almost disabled man. Now I am sure I can reach 95 in relative physical and mental fitness, if karma allows.

So, as you say, there are many opportunities out there yet.