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« on: Oct 24, 2011 07:53 pm »

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If this were true in all ways, why is i that some of those who are attached to body consciousness in the sense of having pain and feeling suffering have beautiful spiritual experiences ?

"""the more the consciousness is attached to body....the less spiritual experiences we will have."""

i did not say no or none...i said less....therefore implying that there are spiritual experiences...just not as many as one with less body consciousness has.


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There is a balance that each of us personally must find without becoming cold to the body and cold to others in the process.... at the same time working towards the higher states of consciousness you speak of.

coldness... in the eye of the beholder.  what might seem cold to one person may not be cold to another.  

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It is an interesting phenomena that i have noticed; People who have spiritual experiences often become fanatical and want to change everyone around them. Sometimes in the process they loose the human warmth they once had and others loose there attraction to them in the process.

  
i have found this also...yet i do not see them as 'fanatics'.  i see it as excitement about something good happening to them and want to share this excitement with others.  there is something written about this in the 'science of yoga'....and guruji mentions this phenomena also.

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If in our spiritual experiences we can translate them to others in a way that shows love then our spiritual experiences r constructive in a social sense as well as a individual sense.If we cannot, they r limited at best and at worst can b interpreted as a callous exercise in human relationships and suppression of human warmth.

do we truly think that the masters were never callous towards their 'students'....or seemed insensitive ?  so are students callous towards students too.

my mom called me a few weeks back....she was witness to a 'yogi master' who's name i will not mention....discipline a female student while she was performing yoga in front of a crowd of people and made her cry.  would that not seem callous or insensitive ?  my mom....was dumbfounded by his actions...very upset she was. i told her in response....that the guru disciplines out of concernment towards the student....guru desires success for the student...

the guru did not appear to exude forth 'human warmth' at the time....but in truth,,,,it came from concern.

student to student....callousness can sometimes happen in order to protect oneself...a type of defense.
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