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Trump on egos;

”Show me someone with no ego and I'll show you a big loser." ~Donald Trump

Wow this guy is so far from a true Guru or a Master that he is totally lost!



Having researched and followed Trump closely since he announced his bid for the presidency, I see him as a paragon of what Herbert Marcuse called the “one-dimensional man.” Trump’s one dimension is his gigantic ego, which must be fed with unlimited amounts of adulation, money, power and attention. He seems to have no interests beyond his business and political enterprises, and no interest in culture or ideas beyond those he can exploit in his business or political campaign. And as biographers have noted, he does not seem to be burdened with self-reflection or self-awareness — only an overwhelming sense of self-importance.

Trump has a gloomy pessimistic view of the world encapsulated in a quotation from him that appears in Michael Kranish and Marc Fisher’s book Trump Revealed: “Man is the most vicious of all animals, and life is a series of battles ending in victory or defeat. You just can’t let people make a sucker out of you.”

Winning appears to be Trump’s only purpose of life and the organizing principle of his existence. To win, Trump appears ready to do anything. This raises the specter of what a losing Trump would do with nuclear weapons under his control, and what destruction his unrestrained ego and uncontrollable id might unleash upon the world if he gained office and then were threatened in any way. Moreover, the large following that Trump has developed through his demagoguery signals that authoritarian populism constitutes a clear and present danger to US democracy, and global peace and well-being. How we deal with these issues is the crucial challenge of the contemporary moment.

https://truthout.org/articles/donald-trump-s-gigantic-ego-and-why-it-could-destroy-us/

Trump’s ego, selfishness, temperament unfit to lead our nation (Letter)
Published: Oct. 28, 2024, 1:54 a.m.





By Letters to the Editor | The Westfield News
Among Donald Trump’s myriad of flaws, the most pernicious is his selfishness. He puts his own needs above those of others, often at the expense of others and his country. His narcissism, his sense of victimhood, and his sense of grievance are manifestations of his selfish nature.

First, he is all ego. He is constantly bragging about his wealth, often inflating his wealth. He has an exaggerated sense of his own importance, declaring that “I alone can fix it.” He overstates his achievements, falsely claiming that he presided over the greatest economy ever. He obsesses over crowd size, craving adulation. He becomes angry when criticized, seeking retribution against his political opponents. He views himself as superior, demeaning others, such as Kamala Harris, whom he called “mentally impaired.” He never accepts responsibility for his actions, blaming biased judges and poor attorneys for his indictments and convictions. He is easily manipulated by flattery, and dictators like Putin know it. He does not understand the sacrifice of our fallen soldiers, calling them “suckers and losers.”

Second, Trump constantly plays the victim. Despite being convicted by a jury of his peers in the “hush money trial,” he rails against a legal system that he says is “rigged” against him. The Russia investigation was a “witch hunt” and a “hoax” propagated by the “deep state.” The call he made to President Zelensky of Ukraine, asking for dirt on the Bidens in exchange for arms shipments, was a “perfect call.”

https://www.masslive.com/westfieldnews/2024/10/trumps-ego-selfishness-temperament-unfit-to-lead-our-nation-letter.html

Trump, who takes office in January, said during campaigning that he could bring peace in Ukraine within 24 hours, but has given few details on how he would seek to do this.

~ Reuters

https://apple.news/AzTfEDgV9Tym7x1bRJ0SXJw

Hi Steve, good to see you are back in shape and posting after some rest!

I thank you since you gave me the opportunity to go a little more in-depth with this issue of American presidency, politics and politicians, a worldly issue which nevertheless is so important in the global chessboard.

From my perspective as an outsider, I would now see the global panorama in a less pessimistic way.

All of Mr. Trump's flaws end ego are evident. Nobody seems to deny them. But despite the flaws, his ego comes with some qualities of determination, tirelessness, and pragmatism that are evidently necessary in his role, especially so given the present critical global situation. 

Beyond his personality and ego, the man is also his abilities, in choosing the right team, in listening to his advisors and consultants. I believe that the formidable figure of Mr. Musk is going to be a huge help in practical strategies. Again, you don't like Musk's personality, but it is undeniable that his brain goes fast forward 100 times the speed of an average mortal.

Again, of course time will tell but my own discrimination presently seems to be open to an optimistic view.

The contender, Mrs. Harris, was clearly not suited to tackle a complex and dangerous global situation and negotiate with the global rascals. Plus many other errors of judgment in her campaign and understanding the needs of many voters, and actuating a wrong strategy of communication. She had not the right personality and her advisors were all wrong.

I must say that we cannot believe 100% what the corporate media or media adverse to Mr. Trump are saying. They have been proven to be wrong in many occasions. A critical voice is necessary, but too much, without evidence, equals persecution, as it was my perception and the perception of many voters evidently.

Peace in 24 hours? A campaigning lie. But a partial one, actually he started moving in 24 hours. From my perspective, Russia needs peace as well but is playing the hard-to-catch primadonna presently. It is obvious, as it is obvious that it will not be an easy process, but Mr. Trump and Mr. Musk appear to be the best team to negotiate with the global rascal Mr. Putin. Mr. Putin respects and fears them. A demon must have some fear to negotiate, the other side must exhibit strength to have some efficient leverage.

Steve, all the above may be wrong but that's the way my logical process analyzed data. It may be all flawed, I may have the wrong data, but I'm not as pessimistic as you are.

The facts will say, let's keep on viewing and reasoning on this cosmic movie!

My own p.o.v comes after I initially thought the Trump Presidency was a blow to our slowly evolving times. But life's lessons show that things are never as bad or indeed as good as one may imagine. And regards ego, I recently listened to a monastic talk where the brother pointed out Master advised the devotee to strike a balance between the medieval idea of sole reliance on God and the modern way of depending on the ego. Makes so much sense to me.

No doubt Trump's ego has many sharp edges but as Mccoy has suggested, his ego may indeed bring about some hard but necessary changes. In the end seeking refuge at the feet of the Divine is all that we can truly depend upon. It's Her show, and Ram Prasad who Master loved, refers often to Divine Mother working through the ego's of the unenlightened. It's only our ignorance causing us to believe we are the doers.

You have an ability to reflect on the issue with a degree of detachment and looking at both sides of the situation. I find though, that for me, you have left out very important parts of the equation. They are; The crimes Trump has committed are being swept under the carpet and his attitude of retribution towards his opponents is not acceptable from a spiritual standpoint. In fact the people he seeks revenge upon are mostly those appointed or elected to uphold the law. This gives you an idea of the sentiment of revenge that a revenge hungry nation has for opposing views…. (See photo below)


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Yes, very often it's like that

But is it really like that? What crimes, and how many? If he really committed crimes, then the situation has blown up in the hands of his enemies. They so clearly wanted to leverage his misbehavior that one felony became 34. Even as Jesus multiplied bread and fish, they multiplied felonies.
So, the situation in a whole is not very clear now. His enemies will go on saying that he is a criminal and a danger to humankind.
But so many people, me included, on the light of evidence, or evidence or absence, or even confusion, can no more believe them.

Spiritually speaking, it has been a shame. Even in the political arena, some degree of honesty and integrity should be exhibited.

I think what is more true for me is being less attached to a nation. This nation; the United Clones. Cloneville isn’t everything it is made out to be. I’d be just as happy or more in a country with more spiritually awakened souls.

I see that is also possible to be attached to living in a certain local over lifetimes. Eventually the conditions surrounding such circumstances loose their ✨ sparkle - their glow. All empires must eventually fall. Mccoy you yourself are a witness yourself to that phenomenon, living and breathing in the past glories of the Roman Empire.

I believe what is more important is not the recent events of an elected president, but rather the inclusion of a couple of fine people - Tulsi Gabbard - and Robert Kennedy Jr. - who were left out of the Democratic Party. And that was a challenge that you referred to as the ‘Democratic Elite’ who now are suffering from their inability to incorporate a broader base of support in their ranks.

steve, that's the right attitude, to see the things you consider good within the whole you consider bad.

Actually, I believe there are more positive sides, like the fact that, even with senate and house + supreme court in control, Mr Trump does not appear to have absolute power like a king. I heard about the two nominees being discarded by the party. They were two people that Mr. Trump knew would have been reliable to execute his orders, almost blindly, nevertheless the party evidently believed that they were not fit, either because of lacking skills and reputation (edit: Mr. Hegseth's alleged sexual assault of years ago seems to be very improbable in reality).

.Also, you wrote that his crimes are under a carpet. More objectively, I'd say that the people has decided that his sins (the affair with the actress) can be forgiven considering the whole outlook, and he got legal presidential immunity. He's clearly not a spiritual figure, however, his rival didn't exhibit a perfect moral rectitude either.

Last, I'll tell you this. I feel safer with Mr. Trump as a president. In his almost deranged ways, this man is perhaps more suited to lead America in this global predicament. He gains more respect and fear from the global rascals. Ms. Harris would have been potentially a dangerous choice.

To end it up, I was disappointed that Mr. Trump in a post-election talk, spoke with deep resentment against Mrs. Harris. Given his big victory, he might have been magnanimous and reconciling, exhibiting higher qualities. He has been hit hard by his enemies, nevertheless a reconciliation would have been much superior to his harsh words. Not a spiritual man. Nevertheless, he may be the one needed in this global plight, wisely advised by his aides. I hope.

Trump’s motivation has only been driven by one main component; a greed for money. This only affirms my continued reminder that Paramahansa Yogananda said that the United Clones have the misfortune of misplaced priorities. Now with the current use of over 11,000 North Korean troops being used to combat with Ukraine and 1 out of every 3 missiles being used coming directly from North Korea we must recognize we are fighting against the powers of totalitarian communism. A valueless ideology that negates spiritual principles and practices. We cannot have the prospect of a peaceful solution taking place with such evil forces. Trumps proposal of ending the war in a day with no plan to offer is simply unfeasible.

Furthermore Trump has already selected 3 Supreme Court justices that tip the balance in giving him immunity for all crimes committed during his presidency. His ‘deranged ways’ only serve to represent a culture lost in its moral compass.

Steve, you sure loathe this man, it must be some karmic issue, for sure!

Right now I don't think Mr. Trump is guided by greed for money, he's after a huge challenge, the biggest he has ever tackled in his life. He can be remembered as a success or as a failure. He knows that well.

War. The simple, undeniable fact is that, whereas the forces of totalitarian communism have huge resources in terms of soldiers and artillery, Ukraine is rapidly running out of soldiers. The war of attrition is very unfavorable to Ukraine. The sanctions did not work. Soldiers from NATO cannot be employed to aid Ukraine, otherwise this might trigger a 3rd world war with unforeseeable consequences. Unfortunately, right now the only feasible solution seems to be peace negotiations where Ukraine accepts to lose some territory and will renounce to join NATO. Mr. Putin will tout this as a big victory and will save face and Ukraine will be saved from utter destruction.

Steve, what are all the crimes committed during Trump's presidency? The only verdict of guilty was about His falsifying business records, which the alchemy of the Supreme court of New York was able to turn into 34 distinct crimes. So much so for the impartiality of judges. I would pretty much be able to turn a 100 US$ bill into 34 separate 100 US$ bills, unfortunately, I don't have the abilities of the Supreme Court of NY.
He may have falsified business records, but I would trust an impartial Court in an impartial judgment, not a Court right inside enemy territory.

Supreme court: as I see it, We already had this discussion, in the face of blatant persecution, leveraging a superiority in the federal supreme court can be seen as a very sensible strategy.

The Supreme Court is far from an impartial or sensible verdict when 3 of its members were hand picked by a very dishonest man. It is just as easy for me to say to you that you are very duped by a criminal who has weaseled and clawed his way up to the presidency as it is for you to tell me that I have a bad karmic relationship with dishonest Don or that I have some hidden loathing animosity. Quite frankly I do not see or feel or experience any animosity but rather pity a man who is creating so much bad karma for himself and this country as well as having such a remarkably delusional attitude about spirituality and statesmanship.

When attempting to make him out to be virtuous and belittling our legal system you have conveniently left out all the crimes he has committed against women in sexual assaults and payoffs to influence elections. Also the hoarding of legal papers at his Margo largo estate, which was blatantly against the law and the insurrection at the capital. And let us not forget the manipulation of election results that is still being assessed in Georgia. Those are only a few of the litany of legal battles he would face if it were not for a cult like worship of his persona that has drove this country to a moral and ethical bankruptcy. I recognize that you are from a different country so may not know the facts. But you are entitled to your views friend.

There is little hope for Russia or North Korea if we allow such dictators to invade other countries unprovoked. And to support the torture, poisoning, slave labor, and  murdering of opponents that is taking place in Russia and North Korea.

Also;

Following the 2020 United States presidential election, Donald Trump, his attorneys, and other right-wing personalities amplified the unfounded rumours originated by the proponents of the far-right QAnon conspiracy theory that Dominion Voting Systems had been compromised, supposedly resulting in millions of votes intended for Trump either being deleted or going to rival Joe Biden. For belittling and insulting Dominion the company was defamed and acquired millions of dollars in law suits perpetrated by the likes of dishonest Don who attempted to bully himself into the presidency in 2020.

Steve, I am sorry to upset you but as an outsider maybe my mind is less influenced by subjective judgments, although I can be far from full impartiality.

I am insisting only because I have a clear perception that behind the prevalent ideology of democrats, there is some concealed, dystopian and malevolent entity which only wants the destruction of the USA (and after that, global chaos). The Democrat elite has been a tool of such a malevolent, powerful demonic entity.

For now, that scheme has been eluded. For now.

The above is my perception and it may be wrong, but it is a clear one nevertheless.

As to the crimes of Mr. Trump, I just consulted Wikipedia, which reports the only ascertained crime (s), those with a full verdict,  the falsifying of business records.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indictments_against_Donald_Trump#:~:text=August%202023%20federal%20indictment%20in%20Washington%2C%20D.C.,-Main%20article%3A%20Federal&text=Trump%20faces%20four%20criminal%20charges,January%206%20U.S.%20Capitol%20attack.

As to the sexual misbehavior, I am pretty much severe in my own judgment and would not like at all a president with those materialistic qualities.

But then, we know that some presidents extolled as very good ones have been sexual predators even more than Mr. Trump.  Mr. Biden himself has been reported to be inappropriate with ladies oftentimes. But let's go to one of the greatest ones, John Fitzgerald Kennedy is an example of sexually predator in the office. Bill Clinton is another one, and they were being sexual predators in the Office, not outside as Mr. Trump did. And there are more examples. Since they've been extolled for their successes, evidently success as a president does not imply deep spirituality and moral rectitude. We have already done this discussion, evidently lots of testosterone is needed to have all that stamina and this takes to a proclivity to sexual misbehavior.

As to Russia, I agree with your remarks but the only conclusive solution I see is a 3rd world war. Not everyone, not even myself, would agree with that.

As to the voting system, I am not informed. I know that the  voting system had some serious flaws that allowed other people to vote (no ID required).

Since you have denied all my claims mccoy, i would suggest you focus on one of them at a time. If I was to respond to all your denials I would practically have a small book here. I will wait for your response. Your response appears to me to be an act of attrition. Simply stated; if you deny all the crimes Donald Trump has committed and propose that the Democratic Party has a hidden agenda to destroy him Steve will eventually capitulate and end his statements of truth that you are unwilling to accept because of your ingrained view that the Democratic Party has some malevolent plan to destroy the career of Donald Trump. This type of reasoning has no basis in reality. I genuinely ‘see’ that Donald Trump is a criminal and a danger to the world. I have consistently told you why. However your view reflects his, and that is that he was a victim of persecution and all his criminal acts were lies perpetuated by the Democratic Party. This type of rational is typical of most crimes committed against society. It is always the other guy. Most criminals ( though not all ) including Donald Trumps personal lawyer, who admitted he worked for a felon and a criminal and actually perpetuated his lies. We can thank him for that. Mccoy; Since you yourself used Wikepedia as a reference, I will include this below to substantiate only a small part of my position regarding the danger of  Donald Trump being president, which is substantiated in all my posts in this section.

Trump employed Cohen until May 2018, a year after the special counsel investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. elections began. In August 2018, Cohen pleaded guilty to eight counts including campaign-finance violations, tax fraud, and bank fraud. Cohen said he violated campaign-finance laws at Trump's direction  “for the principal purpose of influencing" the 2016 presidential election. In November 2018, Cohen pleaded guilty to lying to U.S. congressional committees about efforts to build a Trump Tower in Moscow.

In December 2018, Cohen was sentenced to three years in federal prison and ordered to pay a $50,000 fine. In February 2019, the New York Supreme Court, Appellate Division, disbarred him from practicing law in the state. In May 2019, he reported to the federal prison near Otisville, New York. In November 2021, he completed his sentence.

In early 2019, Cohen sued the Trump Organization for allegedly failing to reimburse his legal fees; in July 2023, the parties reached a settlement ahead of a planned trial. In early 2023, Trump sued Cohen for allegedly breaching his legal trust; in October 2023, Trump dropped the suit ahead of a planned deposition.

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Steve, yes it appears that we have pretty opposite views and that's embarrassing for two spiritual aspirants and devotees. But this also outlines how the power of Satan is strong in confusing the facts, in how much noise there can be on a topic and how many people illustrate facts in opposite ways for sake of interest or ideology or just ignorance.

Pls give me some time to research the Cohen case, which I didn't know before. Again, my impression is that the democrat elite leveraged some weak points of Mr Trump (he has quite a few) out of proportion to get rid of him in the political arena. Maybe even get rid of him in the material world!

But I am ranting, as you say, one thing at a time!

Steve, my comment is that Mr. Michael Cohen does not appear to be a man of moral rectitude and honesty. He lied multiple times and he was convicted.

So, when Wikipedia reads:


What value has the report of a liar?

I also listened to a podcast with prosecutors on the accountancy minutiae of legal fees, reimbursements, non-disclosure agreements and so on. Mr. Trump also apparently was ill-advised by his attorneys.

All we can say about Mr. Trump is that he didn't exhibit great discrimination in hiring Mr. Cohen.

On the other side, Mr. Trump did exhibit discrimination in refusing to make him chief of staff...

I also read the lengthy Wikipedia voice, I couldn't find many relevant points about alleged crimes from Mr. Trump

Tracking the criminal cases of Dishonest Don.

For the first 234 years of the nation’s history, no American president or former president had ever been indicted. That changed in 2023. Over a five-month span, former President Donald Trump was charged in four criminal cases. Together, the indictments accused him of wide-ranging criminal conduct before, during and after his presidency. One of those indictments has now led to the first criminal conviction of a former president; the other three remain pending. This is POLITICO’s guide to the four Trump criminal cases:

https://politico.com/interactives/2023/trump-criminal-investigations-cases-tracker-list/


Mccoy this is for your review. Since you seem to have a hard time understanding the validity of my statements. And continue to deny the criminal investigations into Donald Trump and some how find validity to his being beneficial to the United States of America.

Thanks Steve for linking this well-written page on the Politico Journal. I've read first the 'hush money' issue, since it's the only verdict of guilt issued, first degree of judgment as clearly illustrated in the article.

I'll tell you that the case seems to be meaningless, for a person accused to be like Hitler. It is some administrative misdimeanour which has been turned criminal by political biased prosecutors, in my opinion. It is all explained in the Politico article.


The politico article, well written and I apparently unbiased, also reports strengths and weaknesses of the case.

I've listened to a Megyn kelly podcast with the accountancy minutiae of the case, it's downright ludicrous that they charged Mr. Trump with a crime when it was just an administrative misdeamenour. Also, as I wrote previously, according to the prosecutors interviewed in the Megyn Kelly show, he was probably ill-advised by his first attorney.

All in all, this first case which proliferated into 34 criminal felonies constitutes a blatant abuse of the judicial power, carried out by Democrat judges and jurors, in a state where Democrats by far prevail, undoubtedly with the purpose to eliminate Mr. Tump from the political arena.

We can discuss all other cases, but this first one is a joke.

I'll link the Megyn Kelly show which is full of legal technicalities, the first part must be skipped because there si an interview with an influencer.

From 51 minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgoIl9ZK9VM&t=6107s

Lucca

I’m not sure what you mean by “ the only verdict of guilt issues “ since Donald Trump has never admitted to any guilt for anything that I am aware of, which only strengthens my view that he is an egomaniac which has led his judgment so far astray.

Other X users replied to that X post in agreement, with comments such as: "No he hasn't" and: "Yep!! Not Convicted." One user elaborated: "Zero convictions, I can't stand liberals and Democrats man they make me physically sick man I love Megan Kelly thank God they pushed her this way."

In short, it is inaccurate to say that Trump has never been convicted of any felonies. In May 2024, he became the first former president to be convicted of felony crimes after a New York jury found him guilty on 34 counts of falsifying business records to conceal a $130,000 hush-money payment to an adult-film star to influence the outcome of the 2016 election. Therefore, we have rated this claim as false.

Trump was found guilty and therefore convicted of felony crimes. However, as of this writing Trump had not been sentenced by Merchan, who put the case on hold until Nov. 19, 2024. Merchan is reportedly having the lawyers on both sides of the case weigh in on what should be done after Trump's election victory. A tentative sentencing date has been set for Nov. 26, 2024, but there is a range of scenarios for what could happen next.

Merchan could potentially wait to sentence Trump until after his presidential term is up, or he could overturn the verdict based on a U.S. Supreme Court decision that gives presidents broad immunity from criminal prosecution. Merchan could also dismiss the case, or alternatively go ahead and sentence Trump.

Regardless, Trump was found guilty on all 34 counts and therefore has been convicted of felonies.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-convicted-felonies/

This article explains legal matters in much more detail so you can understand that though you may feel his crimes were influenced by a political viewpoint, many of his crimes had nothing to do with any political viewpoint but rather crimes committed in business when he himself was a democrat.

Steve, yes, there has been some linguistic confusion on my side, since I believed that convicted was synonymous of 'sent to prison'.

The definition of convicted seems to be the following.

a formal declaration by the verdict of a jury or the decision of a judge in a court of law that someone is guilty of a criminal offence.

And so, yes he was undoubtedly convicted, subject to appeal.

But again, this is not very impressive, I mean, would you criticize Hitler for some irregularities with 11 checks, 11 invoices and 12 vouchers? Wouldn't you rather criticize him for 6 million Jews atrociously killed?

So, I see Trump's detractors as desperately clinging to this conviction, which in their eyes made him a criminal similar to Hitler. Seems so absurd, yet it's true. Desperation.

Am I missing something? The case is pretty controversial, and counting each check, invoice, and voucher as a crime seems a tiny bit of an exaggeration. And wanting to construe the case as criminal rather than administrative, wanting at all costs to see the intent to commit fraud.

In my considerate opinion, there is one simple explanation. The conviction has been a political one, not a judicial one. The judge guided the jurors to the conviction, and the judge wanted Mr. Trump to be out of the political Arena.

I saw it happening in Italy. To date, judges try to compromise political enemies. Ditto for government bills, non actuated by judges.

Bottom line, yes, it was a real conviction, but there are many reasons why Mr. Trump cannot be called a criminal, first of all, until all the judicial stages are completed, that is until the appeal is not concluded, the conviction is suspended.

Second, because the conviction had clearly a political cause more rather than a judicial one.

Third, a real criminal is something like a recognized rapist, robber, homicide, and so on. Not someone who commits irregularities on checks, invoices, and vouchers.

The media have been good at insisting on such conviction. Mr. Trump has been even better at withstanding all this abuse.

I suppose it depends on if your were the object of his crimes. If you were you would feel betrayed and manipulated if not also aggravated assault perpetuated against you. And against the democracy that has been crafted in a free loving country.

You think the convictions have a political cause. I have no such sense of that. On the contrary Trumps revenge is the real political motivation. And the women who were raped and used by him have a totally different perspective on the crimes committed then you do. The police that attempted to maintain order during the insurrection certainly have a different take on the crimes than you. And we have heard their testimony.

In many of the cases now there will not be a conviction. Why because Trumps self appointed Judges gave him the immunity of a king to his crimes.

Steve, I do understand your animosity and that you would much rather like to have a president with an impeccable story of good behaviour and rectitude. That was Obama, a quintessential figure of a president. But do we like better an image, an icon, or we rather prefer substance?

Obama at the end of his mandates did not exhibit, with a few exceptions, overwhelming excellence as to ruling the USA. His global politics was catastrophic. He allowed the neo Marxists to spread out, with the subsequent virus of wokism, critical race theory, transactional theory and absurdities. He did not rein in these pernicious underlying currents.
In a few words, he kinda of failed as a president, in my view.

At the other spectrum, Trump is a convicted felon, he acts crazy at times, he says crazy things at times, really not a perfect figure of a president, but during his mandate there were no wars initiated, he started the Abrahama accords, he tried to uplift economy and so many more things which I do not know.

So, if there is a previous record of good outcomes, or just non-disastrous outcomes, why people do criticize him so harshly, demonizing him and comparing him to Hitler? I find no other logical solution than political enmity.

I have no knowledge that he raped any women. Unless it's a derogatory term to describe what other presidents like Bill CLinton, John Fitgerald Kennedy and many others did.

Again, Steve, I insist that there is some karmic issue between you and this figure, as detestable as he may be, the substance is not that of an antichrist at all. You may say: I don't want such a boor as a president, I understand it. But that's an ad-personam judgment, not an objective judgment on his policy.

I also understand that you have issues with some of his policies, like non-intervention on climate, like fossil fuels exploitation, demographic growth and so on. But these should be addressed separately from personal judgments.

You may say again, "I do not want a convicted felon as the POTUS." I may retort, "He was convicted according to judicial rules, and then he outsmarted the enemy judges by applying more rules issued by friendly judges. We need such a cunning person as the head of the first global superpower. We need him to tackle the real demons outside: Putin, Kim Jung, and Xi Jinping."

You are entitled to your opinion. But do not put words in my mouth that were never there. Just because my views of the man do not reflect yours, does not mean I hate someone. Do I say you hate Obama? No. You have different views. Your views reflect those of most right wing people here in the United States. You use Marxism as a bad word. That is a typical right wing view. Do I say you have an animosity towards left wing views? No Lucca. I am attempting to engage in a constructive discussion with you for both of us to gain from. Actually some of the Marxist ideas are similar to the teachings of Jesus when it relates to sharing. A philosophy that Donald Trump has no understanding of because he is such a selfish man. Instead of helping the poor and middle classes he gave some of the largest tax breaks in history to the most wealthy people in the United States.

Please read this article to see how the egotistical and selfish motives have hurt the middle and lower classes and benefited the highest 1% of the wealthiest individuals in the United States. Not only that, but these huge tax breaks that both Bush and Trump were and are a part of have severely limited and exhausted funds used for all funding to help the middle and lower class families in the United States, added to the fact that these tax breaks have also exhausted government funds to protect the environment, build infrastructure and support social services…. Trump is nothing less than a total disaster to our country’s services. He is a hero of the richest individuals in this country and nothing less than a detriment to all other classes economically. Team Trump Wants the Poor to Suffer to Fund His Tax Cuts for the Rich.

https://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-tax/the-2017-trump-tax-law-was-skewed-to-the-rich-expensive-and-failed-to-deliver

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Steve, this time I did not use the word 'hate'. I just said 'karmic issues'. Also, I don't know if I put words in your mouth, if it was so I didn't realize.

I said the above, 'karmic issues' because Mr. Trump became sort of an obsession with you, since the 2016 mandate, I remember that well.

At this point I accept the fact that as youur obsession is impersonal, that is you do not like at all what Mr. Trump represents, his attitude, his policy, his ideologies. It seems strange though that you cannot find a single positive thing he made.

Sorry to interrupt, I gotta run, going to continue this.

I see your post above more closely represents my attitude. And you have found some positive characteristics for Dishonest Don. For me finding positive traits for him are similar for people finding positive traits for Adolph Hitler, Vladimir Putin or Jung Un. While there are positive attributes even if it is the fact that Adolph Hitler was purported to be a vegetarian, we still knew he needed to be stopped in his aggressive and selfish ways. In the same way I have never stopped showing my disgust for Trumps insensitivity, selfishness and egomania. If you choose to see it as an obsession…. I simply refer you to the life of Jesus Christ who was also ‘obsessed’ about the Pharisees and scribes. Or Krishna who was ‘obsessed’ about having Arjuna fight to return his kingdom back to righteousness.

I would think by now that you and others would see that the United States has not just had an election but rather it has chosen evil forces that are destroying the very fabric of democracy and the clause ‘one nation under God’ In fact i am not obsessed but rather i recognize this nation has taken a tragic turn towards evil and despotism. The reason I am not affected badly because of it, is that I recognize that all nations and empires must eventually fall. Whether that takes place is dependent on factors we have yet to see. That is; will this nation turn back to honesty, integrity and trust in its processes? This will not be fulfilled when such evil forces have taken grip of power.

Steve, it's funny in a way, but my vision is opposite to yours. Only time will tell who is right and who is wrong, and of course right and wrong could be partial outcomes, something will turn out to be right, other things will turn out to be wrong, It's inevitable, unless this presidency will be a perfect one. I doubt it will.

It is not that the people of the US have chosen evil forces, they've chosen what has been displayed to them. Wokism has been refused by the majority, as well as borders open to illegal immigrants and continuous engagement of wars.

In my view, Trump may be an Avatar, disguised in a materialistic incarnation with many flaws. It happens. It is almost sure that William the COnqueror was Yogananda. The conqueror did not exhibit spiritual qualities.

In this elections there has been a portentous war between the legion of evil spirits, who influenced the public opinion and used the democrat rulers as tools, and the legions of God. Had Mrs. Kamala won, the road was ready for chaos and anarchy in the American streets. Also, the road would have been paved to far more sinister and ruinous outcomes, like a nuclear war.

The faction of Mr. Trump has won by following the suggestion of angelic astral beings, they suggested to Susan White the right campaigning strategy, they made appeal to more serious and real problems than gays and transgenders' rights and pampering of these pathological cases. They made appeal to safety, peace and prosperity. The angelic astral beings also guided the lateral movement of Mr. Trump's head when the almost lethal shot was triggered. The legion of evil spirits for sure influenced Mr. Crooks and obfuscated the minds of the security men. This direct intervention caused a counter-intervention from the legions of God.
The outcome was a resilient, pugnacious, invincible figure of a presidential candidate. This moved the needle.
Also, the astral angelic beings influenced Mr, Trump to choose Mr. Musk, a visionary businessman and super-organizer, as one of his main aides. This moved the needle even more.

That one was an epic battle between good and evil, won for a little by the legions of God.

We'll see what happens in the future, if total chaos and doom will erupt in America and the world as a direct consequence of Trump's policies, then I'll concede that you are right and that Satan blinded my discrimination.

Mccoy the America you describe does not at all resemble what i see. The difficulty with your assessment is it ignores the sufferings most Americans face. And it centers on the success and money machine of the rich 🤑 who really have no regard for those in lower economic strata. Most Americans are apart of a slave working class, just able to eke out enough money to eat and pay rent. While a small amount of the population own most of the wealth and real estate. So your model of success may appear shiny from a distance but lose all luster from a closer view. Would you consider Rome a successful empire at its height of power? If so you will be expressing what I am talking about. There were slaves and many parts of society that were suppressed which the early Christians were exposed to during Christ’s time. Though the Roman’s were successful certainly those crucified on the streets could not say the same. This is the type of false success that the current administration who have been elected exemplify.

Crucifixion was a common form of execution in Roman times, particularly for slaves, rebels, and those accused of serious crimes such as treason or piracy. It was primarily used as a means of punishment and deterrence.

Key Points:

Purpose: Crucifixion served not only as a method of execution but also as a public display intended to deter others from committing similar offenses. Victims were often left on display for days.
Victims: The majority of those crucified were non-Romans, including slaves, foreigners, and criminals. Free Roman citizens were typically spared this form of execution unless they were guilty of severe crimes.
Historical Context: The most famous crucifixion is that of Jesus Christ, which occurred around 30-33 AD. This event highlights the use of crucifixion in the context of political and religious dissent.
Frequency: While exact numbers are difficult to ascertain, historical accounts suggest that thousands of individuals could be crucified during major uprisings, such as the Spartacus revolt (73-71 BC), where it is estimated that 6,000 slaves were crucified along the Appian Way.
Legal Framework: Crucifixion was codified in Roman law, and its use was regulated by the authorities. The Romans viewed it as a fitting punishment for the most serious offenses.
In summary, crucifixion was a widespread and brutal practice in Roman society, used primarily for punishment and as a means of instilling fear among the populace.

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Of course, Steve, my description is very simplified, also I'm not living out there, I only receive indirect recounts from people living there, recounts which must at times be filtered.
Re. the rich: the issue si complex, I can see that some of them are stingy and just money-obsessed, in a pathological way. Others are more balanced and generous.

The really rich ones though usually provide jobs and wealth with their business ideas. A perfect society should welcome rich people and businessmen but have no poor people. Such societies are very rare, a couple of examples I know are Sweden and Luxemburg.
Italy is not like that, Italy has presently too many poor people.

Re. the Roman empire, it was a society which developed right in the middle of the Kali Yuga. Are you referring to that in light of Mr. Musk's recent declared obsession on it?

Yea and many elite people from the U.S. clones attempt to write off the successes of countries that make their whole society more happy by saying that a socialist system would only work in a small country. Why limit the possibilities of socialism in this way? The Indians in America did not need Elon Musk to exist and create their own jobs before the white man disrupted this country. Essentially such people like Elon Musk, Donald Trump and Bill Gates came and ‘stole’ the means of production for their own extravagant life styles. I do not have any problem lumping these people together. I do not have to separate them into Republicans and Democrats. There are also many ‘lower class’ people who are selfish. The wealthy do not have a monopoly on selfishness, but rather a monopoly on ‘maya’ and ‘avidya’. People existed fine on this continent far before those ‘creating jobs’ appeared. Most people that have stimulated the economy by creating ideas that put them to work only created more hardships and misery for the general public. That is why these people - for the most part - do not meditate. They have only created more diversionary tactics for the masses delusional activities and useless desires…. As well as ignorance for themselves.

Yes I am making a comparison with Musk, Trump and those excelling in the destruction of the values of a wonderful original idea for democracy. They are only leading this nation in a free fall towards a loss of democracy, freedom and the empire that once thrived here; just as the Romans saw their empire crumble. Instead of helping the rest of the world, they are promoting a philosophy of selfishness that extends beyond the borders and will only hold back the promise of the Dwapara Yuga. But these type of dips in spiritual awareness only last for a while and then again the spiritual progress will return as we begin to see spiritual beings evolve towards caring societies.  Unlike what is now taking place in this country because of misplaced priorities, which Paramahansa Yogananda saw happening here back in the early part of the 20th century. I’m sure there were people in your country who saw the fall of its empire because of those creating jobs and controlling the lives of others as well. Such people, for the most part , are really promoting a stronger materialistic approach and attitude that deteriorates their own countries progress.

I do not see myself as obsessed with such people or having any hidden agendas against them as you appear to insinuate, that those disagreeing with them feel. But rather pity them for creating the karma for themselves that only perpetuates their own ignorance. Such people will never have any experiences of spiritual awakening or psychic enlightenment this lifetime or for life times to come before recognizing the happiness of others and not just their own…. Which is sought from material accomplishments instead of spiritual understanding.

I'm not a clairvoyant so I cannot see what is going to be the direction American society will take now, or the outcome of this new presidency.

But I saw the direction taken by last presidency and it was very, very weird. Contrary to commonsense. It was a rapid decline of an empire into a science-fictional dystopic world.

I cannot stand it when reason and common sense are overtaken by ideology. This was happening in America and Italy/Europe as well.

I'm not a priori against any political parties, but when they become the champions of irrationality, I must take distance, wide distance.
 

We all reason to the tune of our own misconceptions. And our rationale mirrors our predetermined outlooks and experiences. What you ‘can’t stand’ is what you are facing. And the experiences I differ with I face on a daily basis. It is easy to say that what differs with you is irrational. But what of those who experience your ideas as irrational?

The similarities we share out weigh the differences, so we continue our dialogue. I find that a comforting formula of coexistence and do not require an agreement. It is only those who have found they could not tolerate differences with our views who left us. And those who could not tolerate the outcome of the election in 2000 that now have their voice heard. Let us see the outcome of their resistance to that election this time around, since now they were not met with the same resistance and violence they propagated. I’m ok 🙂 with that. Let them learn in a different way. We all will eventually will find our path merges on our journey homeward towards the divine. Bless all those whose souls seek liberation. And may we draw others to that ultimate path.

Steve, I admire your stoicism to me expressing views so opposite to yours. It also goes the other way around, when I listen to your points.

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Mccoy your last entry has no relation to the subject I have made in this thread that i can see. So I answered a response to your last entry under Tulsi Gabbard…. where it seems to belong. We have strayed far from the topic of the thread as far as I can tell.

You are right, I'm going to move the OT posts in the other thread

Thanks Mccoy, I’m adding this concern about Donald Trump;

Trump’s promises to use the justice system to punish his perceived enemies and help his allies after he takes office Jan. 20. His picks for attorney general, Pam Bondi, and for FBI director, Kash Patel, have urged retribution against Trump’s political adversaries and critics. I’ve always thought that his actions and comments reflect an attitude of retribution against his so called enemies.

Washington Post

Again, reasoning on something that is not happening now. Happening in the future? What will happen?

As far as I understood (and that may be wrong) Trump's retribution will be to fire those who were hostile to him. Excuse me, but for a man repeatedly compared to Hitler, that sounds not impressive at all. In some views, people have been boycotting him and exhibited an excessively hostile attitude (and actions).

Hitler would have killed them in the night and had them disappear. Just firing them, if this is the case, is something gMAhatma Gandhi would have done.

Besides, pragmatically speaking, keeping them would make no sense, they would obstruct the government's schedule.

It is not a matter of ‘keeping them’ that has to ‘make sense’ . It is rather a matter  of who replaces them, which is important. If you hire people whose agenda is to get even and intentionally imprison or destroy the reputation of others there is an accounting for it. And that is the intention of the likes of Donald Trump. It is a pattern he has used all his life. He has stiffed others in business deals and used opportunistic methods to destroy the reputation of those he has stepped on. We do not have to look at the future to know his past. We know that Donald Trump has made the rich 🤑 so rich that they control the real-estate and the means of production in the United States and to make simple statements like ‘ I don’t understand the tax system in the United States does not lead to any practical solutions to the poverty in this country and the extreme inequality of the economic division that Donald Trump is responsible for. It is not a future scenario but rather a reality of his past actions and present consequences and conditions.

Would the Self Realization Fellowship have Rajasi in charge of its economic development if he had six corporate bankruptcies? Should the American government even consider having such a person running the business of the United States?? Does this make any practical sense? What business would hire a person for their economic development, interests and planning with such a reputation?

Let us look at the life of Adolph Hitler since you keep bringing him up in our conversations. And perhaps you have noticed i’ve dropped the Fuhrer notion but still believe it is applicable to a man who has slandered the reputation of so many other statesmen and women in this country. And given the absolute power that Adolph Hitler was given do I think Donald Trump is capable of such crimes? I subscribe to the idea that if a man glorifies such dictators as Trump has, he deserves no place in American public life. If he were not encouraged by the ignorance of the public, he would not have been able to commit the crimes he did. That is the problem we face in the United States today. In fact people like Adolph Hitler and Mussolini had some good plans and ideas for their citizens otherwise Paramahansa Yogananda would have not made good comments about their original intentions. The public itself must take some responsibility for the mental illness that they encourage by supporting such eventual actions. And we can see in Donald Trump the same pattern of retribution and a power hungry appetite that encouraged Adolph Hitler to take the measures he did in Donald Trump today. The point is we don’t need to wait and see what he will do next like Chamberlain did with Hitler in Europe. Let us as a people recognize the pattern of spiritual and mental decline that for instance Trumps niece has recognized before it gets so out of control that it destroys a nation, and encourages other nations to do the same.

https://www.thoughtco.com/donald-trump-business-bankruptcies-4152019


Again, reasoning on something that is not happening now. Happening in the future? What will happen?

As far as I understood (and that may be wrong) Trump's retribution will be to fire those who were hostile to him. Excuse me, but for a man repeatedly compared to Hitler, that sounds not impressive at all. In some views, people have been boycotting him and exhibited an excessively hostile attitude (and actions).

Hitler would have killed them in the night and had them disappear. Just firing them, if this is the case, is something gMAhatma Gandhi would have done.

Besides, pragmatically speaking, keeping them would make no sense, they would obstruct the government's schedule.
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The 'glorification' part is hearsay from some disgruntled former aid of Mr. Trump who chose to discredit him, apparently.
We have no official records of such presumed glorification.
To me, and to many others, like a few dozen million American citizens, it sounds more like another bullet in the mud-slinging gun.

Mccoy you think I have an obsession about Trump and a karmic relationship with him? HBY? Some people think the world revolves around them and not the other way around.

https://youtu.be/rlRCFbWN_TY?si=ME7i7iTCrEsGSNHa

https://youtu.be/QxXK9rVHP_k?si=26M4p815jHwnNWa3

Steve, if you pardon me, I'm answering in installments. 1st answer on the first video posted, and thanks for providing some real evidence and not hearsay.

It cannot be said he glorified any dictators. He said they are smart. Matter of fact statements. Pragmatically. Know thy enemy. They are not dumb, they must be dealt in accordance with their ability to rule tyrannically hundreds of million of persons. We, the westerners, must be smart because they are smart. Do not underestimate them. I subscribe all of the above which is the true message Trump wanted to convey. Of course his adversaries wanted to construe those statements in a way to discredit him. They call the statements 'praise' or 'glorification'. Of course. it's part of the dishonest political game. This strategy didn't pay though, Mr. Trump in the end won, the law of karma in action.

Someone else construed Mr. Trump's words as I did. Below, I'm pasting one of the comments. Everything must be taken in its context. Otherwise we should say that even Yogananda was a fan of Hitler. But we know well that this is true only in the very limited context of pre-war social order in Germany and the positive things the Fuhrer was able to achieve, especially so winning over widespread atheistic communism. Yogananda sure did not praise what happened afterward, the killings, the genocide.

I watched the video, Steve good choice, short vids can be watched soon.

Senator Sanders made a point, but...

By now, it is clear that President Trump can say apparently absurd things. Whatever comes to his mind, he speaks out. He's thinking that those guys are tough and talented, in their deranged ways, he says it.

But again, I see them as statements, not praise, and surely not glorification.


We also know, as we discussed before, Trump calls Um Jung a 'sick puppy' in another occasion. This is clearly not a praise and is what came in his weird mind at the moment.

Since we are in the presence of such a personality, which exhibits unfavourable and favourable traits (the latter: no hypocrisy), then we must consider such aspect when dealing with Mr. Trump's affirmation.

Of course, Senator Sanders knew the above well, but everything is good to defame rivals in this deranged game of politics.

The context, rigorously, was that of negotiations for denuclearization and Mr. Trump was doing his job. What was the outcome? Less missile launches. So, beyond the words, the actions apparently had some positive effects.

A comment from the Youtube video:

To those complaining: Bernie made clear that work to denuclearize NK is a good thing. Trump praising Kim in these ways, by contrast, is silliness, and likely not necessary to getting a peace deal.
All that said...when isn't Trump saying something incredibly absurd?

Since when is it 'smart' to  imprison those who disagree with you? Since when is it 'smart' to murder your oposición? ☺️ Let us be kind to others and recognize  those who have no consideration for the spiritual qualities. Let us be aware of people who are not serving spiritual principles. It is obvious to us that they have no knowledge of the law of karma. They are permeated with avidya which is ignorance; not smartness. Let Trumps own words be a testimony of his spiritual ignorance.

Dear Steve,
I am attempting to observe reality from a detached plane.

From one side I see a president elect, Mr. Donald Trump, who speaks what he thinks. It is evident that Mr. Trump does not reason very much about the words he pronounces, how such words can be used by his political enemies, adversaries and opponents, becoming tools of propaganda. This is a political game which he is not very able with.

From the other side, I see political adversaries like Senator Sanders, who are very willing to grasp the occasion to use a logical fallacy for their agenda.

The fallacy is this: Mr. Trump's verbal statement (that guy, a dictator, is smart) is turned into an ad hominem political fallacy: since Mr. Trump states that such a man, a dictator, is smart, then he is praising him, and then he will try to act like him.

Identifying a simple statement about an individual (he is smart, intelligent) with a global judgment and general admiration of an individual is a logical fallacy. Political opposition, Senator Sanders, the newspapers, and people, thrive on logical fallacies.

Bottom line. I agree that Mr. Trump should have told: that guy is an evil genius. But we all know that Mr. Trump is not a champion of verbal skills. This constitutes knowledge a priori, we cannot neglect it. If we discard prior knowledge, this is wrong when thoroughly examining a given sphere of thought. We can of course criticize him for not being extremely clear and attaching a negative connotation to those guys, after the positive (smart) adjective. But criticizing a person for lack of verbal refinement is not the same as criticizing him for liking Hitler.

Hence, we cannot with logic infer that Mr. Trump admires those dictators and the evil actions they are carrying out. This is an illogical extrapolation, with no evidence from reality, this is a fallacy, this is a wrong sphere of thought. Adherence to such a wrong sphere of thought stems out of political acrimony, even personal acrimony, I understand how this man can generate personal repulsion.

To be even more objective, I asked the AI Gemnii about the logical matter. Gemini introduces some more nuances into the issues, but the take-home I see is that it is not such a straightforward issue and all depends on the context. Such details are lost when political opponents use words as propaganda against an adversary. Not considering context has always been particularly true of Mr. Trump's opponents.

https://g.co/gemini/share/3044543bbf5f


Gemini, if a person says another person is smart, does it belie pure admiration or can we consider it a simple statement?



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Calling someone smart can be a simple statement of recognition, but it can also carry undertones of admiration or even envy. It all depends on the context and the relationship between the speaker and the listener.

If the speaker knows the person well and has observed their intelligence firsthand, calling them smart is likely a genuine expression of admiration for their abilities. However, if the speaker is less familiar with the person or is speaking in a more formal setting, it could be a more neutral observation.

Additionally, the way the statement is delivered can also influence its meaning. A simple, matter-of-fact statement of "You're smart" might be taken as a straightforward observation, while a more emphatic or exaggerated statement might be seen as a stronger expression of admiration or even flattery.

Ultimately, the meaning behind the statement is subjective and can only be truly understood by considering the specific context and relationship between the speaker and the listener.

The challenge with smartness, is that mental capacity is often not only harmful to others but also can be harmful to the individual. This is true because people do not  understand how to be kind and helpful but rather they use  others for the enhancement of their own ego. When encountering such resistance in others, it is not very important to be correct. Correctness rarely solves the issues between  people. Rather it can cause resentment and a determination to stick with a habit of thoughts. It is helpful if we can offer solutions that increase the conscious awareness of others rather than reasoning that limits our awareness. This is a benefit of meditation. Without it individuals are forever engulfed in their egos ; to mold the world into the image of their own making.

Amma has said that we may often wonder about ourselves when people are not kind to us and to others, we should realize, there are people who practice meaness because they only have one view; that is there own. When we (including myself) see this in others let us be careful we ourselves aren't the expression of what we witness in those we see in our daily interaction with those we meet and see in the world stage as well.

Without a proper understanding of ego, we are hopelessly lost in obstancy. Balancing our conscious mind with the suggestions of spiritual inspiration brings solutions that were previously not recognizable. But glorifying the ego by making comments like; 'show me a person with no ego and i will show you a failure' clearly shows a lack of understanding of what Paramahansa Yoganada and other  spiritual giants manifested.

Let us look at the success of Paramahansa Yoganada, Amma and other spiritual giants. They have not glorified their ego but rather worked and served to contain it. This is a political message that has served to uplift countries as we have seen in the likes of a Ghandi or  Nelson Mandela.

I think that there are various planes of mental awareness and that it is not possible to compare different planes. It is not possible for example to compare saintly politicians like Gandhi to usual politicians who are driven by ego. They may need their ego and the motivation it carries. Whereas saintly figures are motivated by Dharma and Karma, mainly.

You have seen I have made the comparison. We have come to a time in the dwapara where men like Gandhi, Navalny, Zelinski, Mandela, Washington and Lincoln have entered the world stage. And there will be instances where politicians consciously work against.the spiritual laws of dharma, as Trump.has with his honering the ego and those who also do so in their power hungry rulerships. Let us absorb as much above such duality as we can and recognize that such power trips are not among our highest interests as mother earth 🌎🌎 moves into the higher ages, and rulers today and in the recent past show up to usher in a higher age.

We can take comfort in the ego less council that Krishna gave to Arjuna as a way to rule beyond the power hungry ego manifested rulership of his brother and the need to fight the ego in the Bhagavad Gita. We can rise.above family interests and have a community interest. We can rise above selfish country interests and consider the world at large; the protection of democracy from evil tyrants and the welfare of mother earth rather than selfish territorial acquisition and making ours better than every one else's.

Below 👇 shows a statesmen, living today. Not an opportunist leading his country for his own self interest, as we see today here in the states.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crg55g4z526o

Amma represents a political movement, as did Krishna, to help mother earth and encourage dharma in world political movements. Let us show that we do not live in a world politically divided, where righteousness is unable to influence the new age we are progressing into and the world leaders reflect the best in us and not the worst.

We are moving into a higher age where technologies and spiritual guidance are a part of everyday life. We can no longer glorify the ego at the expense of Mother Earth and humanity. We need the type of wisdom that Solomon and Arjuna gave to their people. The confines and avidya of Donald Trump will be a testimony of the maya and ignorance he brings into the international sphere with his earthly and materialistic wisdom he brings into the rising Dwapara Yuga that is not a good fit for the destruction he is bringing to Mother Earth and her continuing crying 😭 out in pain because of the factors of greed and power he represents. The world community- at large- is attempting to bring in a new age, while the factors of manipulation and corruption bring a discouraging example to these higher ideals.

We are all watching a cosmic movie. The movie is construed in different manners by different spectators. Sometimes, this is a big skill of the director, to leave room to different interpretations.

The cosmic movie is the same. I like this turn of the plot, the global scenario is becoming more lively and, to tell the real truth, the right sphere of thought, American society was plummeting down a dystopic reality where the ideology reigned supreme over the most basic common sense.

The avidya surrounding Donald Trumps ego;

https://youtube.com/shorts/HemRWP-jJAQ?si=7whgmIFn5-l4gXPB

In the cosmic drama we have characters who have not only inflated egos, but are so puffed up they attempt to bamboozle everyone. People who are not only beyond sense but senselessly make bombastic claims about themselves and others, to appear glorified in their blinding radiance.

Steve, but.....

The short video you posted, portrays the former POTUS Barack Obama, one of the strongest enemies of the present POTUS Mr. Trump.

Of course he'll say everything bad about his opponent. On an issue that seems not very significant to me. his name on a check.

As if Mr. Obama had no ego. He has a ego, and most Presidents must have a strong ego, otherwise they wouldn' be good for that job.

The only exceptions are the very few, spiritually elevated people who chose to serve their nations as political figures, a role that very few advanced people are willing to play.

Many avatars, when playing political roles, forget about their past spiritual lives. This is the case of William the Conqueror.

Perhaps not significant to you but to most of the population it was very significant to get stimulus checks. It  is an interesting phenomenon that the top 1% of the richest wealthy people in the U.S. and their sympathizers literally have no idea 🤷‍♂️ what the average American household is facing today and are so insensitive that they continue to make economic slaves out of the rest of the population.

I don’t mean to criticize you personally mccoy but it is obvious to me you have little to no understanding of what the people went through during the pandemic and how much those stimulus checks meant to me as well when I was unable to go to work because I was concerned for the welfare of others. People that are spiritual should be able to show some compassion. But one must recognize that the law of association makes people who associate with a selfish man like Donald Trump become and assimilate their character.

Humility is a quality associated with wisdom and spirituality. Ego is associated with ignorance and death to spiritual understanding. Let us be honest about the blatant love of ego that Trump represents.


”Show me someone with no ego and I'll show you a big loser." ~Donald Trump

Steve, your continuos criticism of this man is unflinching, I wonder, to what purpose? Again, you denied it but maybe there are some karmic issues with you and this other soul. It is an unending ad-personam criticism, as if we didn't know that he has a lot of flaws.

It is interesting how you see it mccoy. You personalize a movement. It is not about one man but rather like the nazi movement, the MAGA movement has many of the same trappings. I will say this though, the personification of a dangerous movement that is a cult is nothing new and Paramahansa Yogananda has said who ever we meet this life we have met before. This movement is not just about flaws but to take down the constitution and democracy. A movement to glorify despots and to bind the rest of the population that aren’t the richest few into economic slavery.

Right now the United States is going through an existential crisis. I was born as that happened during the civil war. I also am born this time to help face and protect this country from despotism and straying from being a country of forced slavery as was the case during the civil war. This time though it is not so much a matter of color but rather a matter of economic slavery.

And as you can see again I’ve been brought into the middle of the crisis as now I am the in the country that Trump has decided to release his vengeance upon.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/co-operate-else-trumps-colombia-002626000.html

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1RxUnnbhsE/?mibextid=WC7FNe


It is not a mater of flaws. Flaws are one thing but to bring a whole country down as a result of personal
flaws is something a whole nation should take action against….

Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are.
John Wooden

Speaking from pure objectiveness, the previous administration accelerated a dangerous and worrying decline in the American society. I was no more recognizing the America the great Yogananda extolled.

By pure consequential logic, Trump is in a way supporting the ideals of a society Yogananda had, although not by spiritual awareness, that's clear.

A ‘dangerous and worrying society’ you offer no evidence of that here. Only conjecture and ideological bias. I sincerely think that Yogananda would have never supported a man who singled handedly attempted to destroy the constitution and have a coup d'état making the wealthy oppress the working class, supporting dictatorship around the world. Paramahansa Yogananda warned against communism and the communists are presently fighting in Russia against a sovereign nation who has been invaded by a communist most of his life; Vladimir Putin worked as a KGB foreign intelligence officer for 16 years, rising to the rank of lieutenant colonel.

https://youtube.com/shorts/BzQ0UXyyXDQ?si=iD4xm0lQzN43wBK0

Steve, good to post shorties, we should make a rule of it in this forum, viewing them takes very little time and that's fundamental to a good follow-up in the discussion.

Back to Senator Sanders. He appears to be the only one who takes the nonsense often spouted by Mr. Trump seriously.

Everyone (but Senator Sanders) knows that the POTUS speaks BS one day, to correct himself and say the contrary another day. That's him, crazy Donald Trump.

However, crazy Donald Trump is the one and only person who is trying with some probability of success, to negotiate peace in that conflict. Everyone else, either wanted escalation, causing widespread suffering, or failed.

So, perhaps Sentor Sanders should wait a little while and see the outcome of the negotiations, before expressing a valid judgment, not indulging in messages that sound like old platitudes from a political opponent.

It is easy for you to take a quick swing at someone with words like ‘woke’ and other anachronisms that really are meaningless. And then say let’s keep it short. Well I can easily do the same. Let’s MABA! ( Make America Beautiful Again) And free yourself of the UCA (United Clones of Ameretards)! If I may ask since when has a President of the U.S. clones spouted off nonsense and been an effective leader?? And when will you understand that I’ve repeatedly shown you evidence of the widespread suffering of the likes of a Putin and you still retort that we need to get rid of the wide spread suffering. Your statements show no coherency or logic mccoy. If you want to get rid of a dangerous snake you choke it at its throat. You don’t just negotiate with it and ask it to kindly be peaceful and expect it will listen.

However, on your behalf I will add this encouraging word from Zelensky to resolve the (outer battle) war. The ending of repression from Putin is another matter.

https://apple.news/ARLOT7T4SRXmRqd-Z1uIhTw

https://apple.news/Az7HcN3YyQAGeAdoMKoyovA

”Show me someone with no ego and I'll show you a big loser." ~Donald Trump

Donald Trump is so ignorant as to have absolutely no spiritual wisdom. Some people have to be reminded over and over that Donald Trumps whole way of living is motivated by one underlying principle which is totally ignorant and leads to all his wrong conclusions.

Ego is in fact the quality that holds us in bondage to these bodies we inhabit. It is the very reason we are here to disentangle ourselves from the ignorance of not knowing who we truly are. People that praise their own ego lead others into the pit of ignorance and should be avoided at all costs. Their very existence is based on the propagation of themselves and not the service or promotion of the needs of others. Which means the ideal of ego promotes SELFISHNESS.

Steve, but... You have shown me little evidence beyond your total loathing for the person (s) and beyond what his enemies say or report, sometimes in a defamatory, unfair, and incorrect way.

To me, the evidence is the deportation of the vicious Trendaragua members to the El Salvador CECOT, a maximum security prison where there is no release. These are facts, not words.

The evidence is to prevent more serious crime by stopping illegal immigration.

The evidence is to save millions and millions of US$$, provided by American taxpayers, from the frauds perpetrated by civil servants. These are facts, not words.

The evidence is to reestablish a functional society where merit is rewarded, not where simple belonging to a sex, minority, or dysfunction (gays, trans).

Presently, the facts simply seem to show that Trump & Musk are on a way, way higher level than the previous rulers of America.

https://youtube.com/shorts/CXm3WxU--fM?si=s0Q61XxPnz5mKxBc

I enjoyed the video, the equation Trump=Hitler is part of the demonization campaign that has allowed Trump to win massively, among  other things.

The democrat elite should have been way smarter. They've rather been total fools in their snobbish attitude.

If I were you, Steve, in these threads I would criticize unceasingly the failure of the Democrat strategists who allowed Trump to win in such an extensive way.

The American people themselves are responsible for voting for him and now they are increasingly disillusioned. Like in many other ways many people want a quick fix. They are not ready yet for the truth but now they are beginning to realize it.

The American people voted, but their vote has been influenced by the hateful and obnoxious attitude of the radical leftists. I would have been influenced myself, for sure.

I don't know if they are being disillusioned. They supported the struggle against illegal immigrants and the new administration provided with great expeditiousness, to be slowed down in the deportations only by the judiciary system. Mr. Trump won this one.

The electors supported economic independence and tariffs and Mr. Trump promptly intervened, although in a clumsy way. But that is what he has been elected for. Still under judgment.

At the mid terms we'll be able to tell with certainty whether the Americans changed their mind and how much.

The evidence proves that the big mistakes of the opposition, the demonization, and above all the radical lunatic ideologies and narrative they supported, gave Mr. Trump all the power he has now.

Mccoy these are your personal views colored by your past incarnations on the earth plain. To actually see them objectively would take a Master to disentangle all their ramifications. Which is taking place; especially since you have found a Master to do so. Now you and I only have to continue our meditation practices to see the light of day on such differences we have arrived at, due to our past conditioning. The mind and its web - that has been created to cloud us with personal views - is challenging to quiet and observe, however it is the task we’ve been given this incarnation, and if we dissipate our practice with so called worldly duties and responsibilities we will never have the clearness of consciousness to see with an enlightened state of being to see through such clouded visions.

Jai Guru

How ego destroys relationships;


The feud was not entirely unexpected. Trump and Musk are both political pugilists with sizable egos and a penchant for using social media to punch back against their perceived enemies, and many observers had predicted an eventual falling out.

Reuters

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To fulfill Donald Trumps gigantic ego he will have parade for his ego costing tax payers an estimated $45 million dollars.

Trump’s Saturday parade, which is expected to feature armored vehicles, thousands of soldiers and military aircraft, is estimated to cost taxpayers about $45 million — a price tag Republicans have had a hard time defending.

Huffpost

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Trump was pressed on why he and Republicans continued cast blame the left for a rise in political violence when elected officials and activists from both parties have been targets.

In response to a question about why he did not order flags lowered to half-staff to honor Melissa Hortman, the Democratic speaker of the Minnesota House of Representatives who was assassinated alongside her husband this summer, Donald Trump initially said he was “not familiar” with the case.

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Donald Trump just found another way to make history — by starving his own country. While 40 million Americans brace for lost food benefits, the Trump administration is refusing to use a $5 billion emergency fund to keep the SNAP program, better known as food stamps,  running during his government shutdown.

Let’s be clear: this isn’t a lack of money. It’s a lack of humanity.

The funds are sitting there, legally available, ready to prevent hunger. But Trump’s USDA decided it “would be illegal” to use them — even though past administrations used the same reserves to cover families during hurricanes and wildfires. Instead, the White House is holding the country’s hungriest hostage to a political tantrum.

At the same time, just blocks away, construction crews are busy gilding Trump’s new $300 million White House ballroom — funded by tech giants, defense contractors, and billionaire donors. Apple, Google, Palantir, Lockheed Martin — all chipped in so the president could have a private Versailles for his friends.

So yes, while Americans skip meals, the chandeliers are being hung.
If the shutdown continues into November, experts say benefits could vanish completely for millions. Some states are scraping together their own emergency funds, but the USDA has warned they won’t be reimbursed. Others are simply out of options.

Meanwhile, the Trump administration is pretending Democrats are to blame — even though this crisis is entirely self-made. “We’re only cutting Democrat programs,” Trump bragged earlier this month. Apparently, feeding hungry Americans now counts as a “Democrat program.”

Trump’s America will always find billions for marble floors and gold-plated chandeliers, but not a dime for a struggling mom trying to buy groceries. It’s the clearest moral contrast you’ll ever see: a government that feeds billionaires while letting children go hungry.

He should have never been considered for office. It is only the admiration of American ego that allowed it. The U.S. has gone adrift with no place to go and the world is passing by watching a country fall into moral decay. The quicker he is gone the more likely we as citizens can resurrect ourselves from the ignorance this man has helped spearhead.