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Title: Rewriting History Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on May 30, 2022 05:22 am I don't believe it far fetched to think Trump, Obama and the Clintons have all worked together to pull one over the American people. It would appear this is a normal thing in the West. I believe we have a lot of people trying to rewrite history to shape the view of their own personal egos. That’s why we have so many political prisoners in the world. Leaders and politicians want their countries to appear attractive. Even musicians attempt to rewrite history. Case in point; Paul McCartney. Looking at ourselves we do the same just on a more personal level. We have our own take on relationships. It may be quite different then the people we call our friends. They may have quite a different view than us. Quite different explanation of events, circumstances and the communication that took place. Title: Re: Rewriting History Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on May 30, 2022 04:53 pm Steve, you mean you wish I had *your* understanding of President Trump. In which case, it would appear you too realize that is a frivolous desire and that we will ultimately wind up in a similar destination despite the way we choose to get there. I don't wish for you to see things my way, I just wish to maintain peace in turbulent times. A wise man once told me variety is the spice of life. Kind regards :) It’s very simple, not that I want to have you see it my way but how things really are. You see like Trump you have wanted him to have won the election just as he did and still does. But rewriting history to acommodate a wish does not make it true. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2020/dec/08/us-election-results-2020-joe-biden-defeats-donald-trump-to-win-presidency Steve, he got about 50% of the consensus in the latest elections, so we cannot affirm that about 50% of Americans have been totally blinded. By the way, I appreciate the references you are providing. US election results 2020: Joe Biden's defeat of Donald Trump Georgia recertifies election results, confirming Biden’s victory, despite Trump’s continued refusal to formally concede Niko Kommenda, Antonio Voce, Frank Hulley-Jones, Anna Leach and Seán Clarke Tue 8 Dec 2020 10.21 GMT Last modified on Thu 21 Jan 2021 03.18 GMT Updating in 2 ... BIDEN 306 TRUMP 232 81,281,888 votes 74,223,251 votes 81 million votes to Trumps 74 million is hardly half mccoy. And 306 to 232 electoral votes is overwhelming! Georgia recertifies election results, confirming Biden’s victory, despite Trump’s continued refusal to formally concede Title: Re: Rewriting History Post by: guest587 on May 30, 2022 06:21 pm Steve, quoting me elsewhere and putting it here to fit the subject of this thread is your doing. And to tell me I don't see things the way they are is the biggest fallacy I've heard all morning. You don't know me and your presumption of reality is no greater than mine. If you could only respect my experience, and I yours- the world would be a better place. You will no doubt try to draw further examples to prove your point. As Gurunath often says, I want no part navigating in the quagmire's of your mind. That place is a dungeon. It may be that someone else here can accommodate your perceptions in regards to politics. Someone to fulfill your desires and make you feel assured about reality. Before you pull me in further, I will save my self.
Let us make peace with the facts- knowing corruption and suffering are much deeper than we can presently imagine. May all beings be happy. And one I've been adding lately... May all beings know peace. I release the binding tension and recognize you to be a part of that which I hold most dear. Namaste ~ Title: Re: Rewriting History Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on May 30, 2022 09:46 pm Steve, quoting me elsewhere and putting it here to fit the subject of this thread is your doing. And to tell me I don't see things the way they are is the biggest fallacy I've heard all morning. You don't know me and your presumption of reality is no greater than mine. If you could only respect my experience, and I yours- the world would be a better place. You will no doubt try to draw further examples to prove your point. As Gurunath often says, I want no part navigating in the quagmire's of your mind. That place is a dungeon. It may be that someone else here can accommodate your perceptions in regards to politics. Someone to fulfill your desires and make you feel assured about your reality. Before you pull me in further, I will save my self. Let us make peace with the facts- knowing corruption and suffering are much deeper than we can presently imagine. May all beings be happy. And one I've been adding lately... May all beings know peace. I release the binding tension and recognize you to be a part of that which I hold most dear. Namaste ~ Consider yourself saved for now. Title: Re: Rewriting History Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Dec 27, 2023 09:01 am Threats and intimidation to those serving our government.
Democratic Rep. Debbie Dingell (Mich.) dug into former President Trump’s Christmas message calling for various people he sees as “looking to destroy” the country to “rot in hell,” calling it “one of the most pathetic” Christmas greetings she has heard. Asked on CNN (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKwcuMkKPj0) if things are getting worse in terms of threats against public servants, Dingell on Tuesday said, “They’re deteriorating and they’re getting worse … Quite frankly, I’m going to tell you that I think it was one of the most pathetic Christmas greetings I’ve heard when a former president of the United States who wants to return tells people on Christmas Day that they ‘can rot in hell.'” In the message on Truth Social, Trump went after public figures including world leaders and special counsel Jack Smith, who is overseeing the Justice Department’s investigation into the former president’s actions surrounding the 2020 el ection and Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol insurrection. (Need I say more?) Title: Re: Rewriting History Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Dec 28, 2023 09:49 am The deterioration in Fuhrer Trumps brain is becoming more and more in evidence….
Trump falsely claims U.S. soldier killed abroad in burst of misstatements Republican polling leader Donald Trump incorrectly said a U.S. soldier died in recent days, appearing to exaggerate the injuries from an attack in northern Iraq on Monday as he sought to criticize President Biden. The attack left one U.S. service member in critical condition and two others injured, according to a statement released by U.S. military officials Monday night. The United States responded with retaliatory airstrikes against an Iran-backed armed group. But the former president, who is a heavy favorite in the 2024 GOP primary, inaccurately described the situation in an interview Wednesday with pro-Trump journalist John Solomon. “Last night, a young soldier was killed, U.S., and the two were very, very badly hurt and nobody even talks about it,” Trump said, describing the assault two nights prior. “It’s not even believable.” Both the U.S. military and National Security Council released statements on the attack Monday. A Trump campaign spokesman did not immediately respond to requests to clarify his remarks. The comments are part of a broader pattern of Trump frequently embellishing or otherwise misstating the number of U.S. military casualties as he seeks to make himself look more favorable compared with Biden. He routinely claims in campaign speeches that U.S. forces in Afghanistan went 18 months without any fatalities during his presidency. The Defense Casualty Analysis System’s Sentinel database has recorded U.S. military hostile deaths every year of the conflict since 2015. ~ Washington Post Title: Re: Rewriting History Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Apr 23, 2024 11:33 pm Trump’s trial and the defamation and silencing of any witnesses, that provided incriminating evidence.
Pecker back on the witness stand: In what amounted to incredibly damning testimony, Pecker laid out the 2015 deal he reached with Trump “to help the campaign.” Pecker called the arrangement to publish stories to make Trump look good — and to smear his political rivals — “highly, highly confidential.” Trump’s then lawyer Michael Cohen fed the tabloid negative stories about rivals like Sen. Ted Cruz when they sensed him gaining momentum on Trump in the GOP primary, Pecker testified. Steve Bannon also pitched negative stories about Hillary Clinton to Pecker that the Enquirer published. “Catch and kill”: Pecker also testified about the Enquirer’s efforts regarding “catch and kill,” the practice of buying the exclusive rights to a story only to make sure it would never be published. The Enquirer paid $30,000 to a Trump Tower doorman named Dino Sajudin for a story about Trump fathering an out-of-wedlock child. Though the story turned out not to be true, Pecker said, “I made the decision to buy the story because of the potential embarrassment it would have to the campaign and Mr. Trump.” A second catch-and-kill example involved former Playboy model Karen McDougal, who was shopping a story about a sexual relationship she said she had with Trump. “I think you should buy it,” Pecker said he told Trump, who was married at the time, during the 2016 campaign. Yahoo news. https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-trial-updates-former-national-enquirer-publisher-david-pecker-details-efforts-to-help-trumps-2016-campaign-183916839.html Title: Rewriting History with propaganda Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Apr 25, 2024 07:36 am “It makes no difference whatever whether they laugh at us or revile us … whether they represent us as clowns or criminals; the main thing is that they mention us, that they concern themselves with us again and again …”
The quote you mentioned is attributed to Joseph Goebbels, a German politician and Reich Minister of Propaganda in Nazi Germany from 1933 to 1945. This quote highlights his perspective on the importance of publicity and attention, even if it's negative, as a means to maintain relevance and influence. AI meta Title: Re: Rewriting History Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on May 18, 2024 07:47 am https://youtu.be/D1zdbDjxVZI?si=_DEwE_nes5RvaDZ9
Donald Trump on trial. Title: Re: Rewriting History Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on May 29, 2024 06:08 pm Most people would like to rewrite their personal history including myself. But we do have to acknowledge that we have made mistakes and attempt to rectify them. In the case of Donald Trump there appears to be no decision to do this at all. Instead he would like others to believe that he never did any thing to encourage violence Jan 6, he did nothing wrong by taking hundreds of files that were not his to take and put them in his Margo Largo home. He never was involved with hush money for any porn star. There was nothing wrong with groping women because he could do it and get away with it. He never lost any election, although it was clearly proven that he did. And, he already is preparing himself to deny the next election, as he has said, if he does not become President. He never had anything to do with inflating any of his real estate holdings. He never had any affair while his wife was giving birth to his child. He never had anything to do with attempting to get dirt on Hilary Clinton to influence the election. He never had anything to do with attempting to get false electors to find votes that were not accounted for. He made no mistakes in giving credit to leaders who are known for their hideous crimes. He had no part in making the claim that climate change is a hoax perpetuated by the Chinese. He was really trying to help the American People by giving the richest 1 percent of the population the biggest tax breaks in History. No, to Donald Trump there is nothing wrong with accusing a former president of the U.S. of not even being an American citizen. Did Donald Trump ever provide hush money to still any bad publicity against him so he could influence the elections with his wealth to subdue all opponents? Of course not . At least not in his convoluted mind. Never mind that he has over 90 felony charges against him. If he is elected President, he can excuse all of them. Donald Trump's record speaks for itself. We know what kind of character he represents. And if we elect him as another president, we have no one to blame but ourselves.
Title: Re: Rewriting History Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Jun 02, 2024 06:34 am “We are continuing to see a dangerous erosion of democratic norms,” Daniel J. Jones, president of Advance Democracy, said in a statement to NBC News. “Trump and his allies have been spreading disinformation about the trial, challenging Justice Merchan’s impartiality, and describing the entire process as ‘rigged’ for weeks. As such, it’s not a surprise that some of his most fervent supporters are now calling for doxxing and violence against jurors, the judge, and the district attorney.”
Jones said online activity has been increasing in the wake of Trump’s guilty verdict, which makes it important for elected officials to “speak out against the disinformation Trump is spreading, as well the calls for violence he’s inspiring.” https://www.aol.com/trump-supporters-try-doxx-jurors-202705512.html Title: Re: Rewriting History Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Jun 03, 2024 12:12 pm More examples of Trump attempting to rewrite his past and history…
“I beat her,” Trump replied. “It’s easier when you win. And they always said ‘lock her up,’ and I felt — and I could have done it, but I felt it would have been a terrible thing. And then this happened to me.” “I didn’t say ‘lock her up,’ but the people said ‘lock her up, lock her up,’” Trump continued. “Then, we won. And I say — and I said pretty openly, I said, all right, come on, just relax, let’s go, we’ve got to make our country great.” Trump did repeatedly demand Clinton be sent to prison during his campaign, however, and the “lock her up” chant was a signature of his supporters at his rallies, even after the 2016 election. Just before that election, he did commit to investigate Clinton with a special counsel, though one was never appointed. ~the Hill Title: Re: Rewriting History Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Jun 04, 2024 07:36 pm Three Trump operatives charged in Wisconsin for 2020 election gambit
Kenneth Chesebro, Jim Troupis and Mike Roman were all charged with forgery for their efforts to assemble fake elector certificates. Kenneth Chesebro, an architect of Donald Trump’s scheme to subvert the 2020 election, has been charged with felony forgery in Wisconsin, court records show. Chesebro, who developed a strategy to send false slates of presidential electors — and to use them to stoke a conflict on Jan. 6, 2021 aimed at blocking Joe Biden’s Electoral College victory — was charged alongside Jim Troupis, a 2020 Trump campaign lawyer, and Mike Roman, a former Trump campaign operative. Politico https://apple.news/ADiABJhfbROqeJoCMf8vNxQ Title: Re: Rewriting History Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Jun 07, 2024 12:35 am Despite what you may have heard about the federal charges against Donald Trump, there is actually nothing shocking or unprecedented about a former head of state facing criminal charges. It has happened several times in other democracies, and it would have happened in the United States but for Gerald Ford pardoning Richard Nixon.
What is shocking, and carries the ominous reek of banana-republicanism, is the response by the opposition party to the news. Kevin McCarthy, the highest-ranking Republican leader, depicts the charges as a personal plot by Joe Biden — “It is unconscionable for a President to indict the leading candidate opposing him” — and a “grave injustice.” Trump’s leading Republican opponent denounces the charges as “political bias” and “the weaponization of federal law enforcement.” What is distinctive about these remarks is how little fear these leaders have of embarrassment by the facts. They are dismissing out of hand an indictment they have not seen, the known contours of which suggest persistent criminal misconduct. Trump, according to news reports, repeatedly defied orders to return classified documents, repeatedly lied about what he held, and appears to have engaged in a cover-up, evidence of which may include surveillance-camera footage, potential testimony by his underlings, and a recording of Trump contradicting his best legal defense. Trump’s attorney confirmed he is facing seven criminal counts, including conspiracy. A reasonably healthy party might give its indicted leader some benefit of the doubt, while calling for judgment to be withheld before he has his day in court. But Republicans correctly understand that their party will consider Trump an innocent martyr regardless. The sickness of the Republican Party as it is presently constituted is that there is no conceivable set of facts that would permit it to acknowledge Trump’s guilt. What has brought the party to this point is the convergence of its decades-long descent into paranoia with its idiosyncratic embrace of a career criminal. Without belaboring the point, consider each of these dynamics in turn. The Republican Party’s internal culture has been shaped by what Richard Hofstadter famously described as “the paranoid style” in American politics. Hofstadter specifically attributed this description to the conservative movement, which, at the time, was a marginalized faction on the far right but has since completely taken control of the party and imposed its warped mentality on half of America. To its adherents, every incremental expansion of the welfare state is incipient communism, each new expansion of social liberalism the final death blow to family and church. Lurking behind these endless defeats, they discern a vast plot by shadowy elites. In recent years, the Republican Party’s long rightward march on policy has ground to a halt, and it has instead radicalized on a different dimension: ruthlessness. Attributing their political travails to weakness, Republicans converged on the belief that their only chance to pull back from the precipice of final defeat is to discard their scruples. A willingness to do or say anything to win was the essence of Trump’s appeal, an amorality some Republicans embraced gleefully and others reluctantly. Trump, by dint of his obsessive consumption of right-wing media, grasped where the party was going more quickly than its leaders did. This aspect of Trump’s rise was historically necessary. All Trump did was to hasten it along. But there was a second aspect of Trump’s rise that was more or less accidental. The party was searching for a strongman to crush its enemies, and it could have found him in a politician, a general, a movie star, or an athlete. Instead, Republicans located their warlord in a crooked real-estate heir. Trump was not raised in a traditional conservative milieu. He came into a seedy, corrupt world in which politicians could be bought off and laws were suggestions. He worked with mobsters and absorbed their view of law enforcement: People who follow the law are suckers, and the worst thing in the world is a rat. That ethos ultimately explains Trump’s approach to classified information. He casually discarded all the rules concerning government secrecy as president — using an unsecured mobile phone, tearing up official documents, sharing highly classified information with Russian officials, and conducting state affairs at his loosely secured Florida resort. After leaving office, he naturally assumed he could continue flouting regulations about government secrecy. If the government was demanding its documents back, that was not an order but a negotiation. And why should he give up his leverage? He had something they wanted. You can imagine the futility of trying to explain to Trump the seriousness and national security implications of the laws he was brazenly flouting, if any of his aides even bothered trying to get it across to him. It is the interplay of the two forces, the paranoia of the right and the seamy criminality of the right’s current champion, that has brought the party to this point. Trump’s endlessly repeated “witch hunt” meme blends together the mobster’s hatred of the FBI with the conservative’s fear of the bureaucrat. His loyalists have been trained to either deny any evidence of misconduct by their side or rationalize it as a necessary countermeasure against their enemies. The concept of “crime” has been redefined in the conservative mind to mean activities by Democrats. They insist upon Trump’s innocence because they believe a Republican, axiomatically, cannot be a criminal. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/06/trump-indictment-why-republicans-will-never-admit-his-guilt.html Title: Re: Rewriting History Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Jun 07, 2024 06:24 pm Steve Bannon; Former presidential advisor for Trump - ordered to surrender to prison term.
Title: Re: Rewriting History Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Jun 22, 2024 09:56 pm Who Is on Donald Trump’s Revenge List? Rewriting history according to Trumps whims and personal vendetta. The president that clearly has attempted to denounce the New Testament with revenge instead of forgiveness. And yet he sells ‘Trump Bibles’!
https://www.npr.org/2024/03/27/1241186975/donald-trump-bible-god-bless-usa https://apple.news/Acxec89UUSpWTUEj9Ff699g WHAT WE KNOW Who Is on Donald Trump’s Revenge List? One of the central themes of Donald Trump’s 2024 presidential campaign has been the desire for vengeance against those who he believes have done him and the country wrong. “I am your retribution,” has become a staple of his stump speech, and it’s not just rhetoric. While Trump and his allies have decried what they say is the weaponization of the justice system against him, they have also made it clear that if he regains the White House, they absolutely plan to use the presidency and the Department of Justice to retaliate against their enemies — and it won’t just be Joe Biden. Below is a look at who Trump and his advisers have indicated they’ll target for revenge, including threats both explicit and vague. ➽ Joe Biden and family Trump has repeatedly threatened to weaponize the power of the presidency to target Joe Biden and his family. “I will appoint a real special prosecutor to go after the most corrupt president in the history of the United States of America, Joe Biden, and the entire Biden crime family,” he said after one of his indictments in 2023. Trump insists that the Bidens are guilty of various crimes, including corruption, and he makes it clear that prosecuting them will be revenge for the various cases against him since leaving office. “Look, when this election is over, based on what they’ve done, I would have every right to go after them, and it would be easy because it’s Joe Biden,” Trump told Sean Hannity in an interview early this month. ➽ Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg Plans to go after DA Alvin Bragg have been underway since well before he charged Trump in the hush-money case, per a Rolling Stone report from March 2023: Soon after being convicted in the hush-money case, Trump was asked in an interview whether he’d prosecute Bragg as president. “Alvin Bragg did some very bad things,” he responded, but that “I’m not going to say anything one way or the other” and “we’re going to see what happens.” ➽ New York Judge Juan Merchan Trump has repeatedly publicly attacked Judge Juan Merchan, who presided over the Manhattan hush-money trial in which a jury convicted Trump on 34 felon counts of falsifying business records. Trump has called Merchan “corrupt” and “a devil” and “crooked.” Shortly after the verdict, Trump said: ➽ New York Attorney General Leticia James Trump has also repeatedly attacked Tish James, who filed an ultimately successful civil fraud lawsuit against the former president over his business practices and has said she should be “looked at” by authorities and that the civil fraud case was “election interference.” In March, Rolling Stone reported that some in Trump’s orbit were already plotting ways to enact revenge along those lines if he’s elected president: ➽ New York Judge Arthur Engoron Another possible target is Judge Engoron, who presided over the recent civil fraud trial against Trump in New York and ultimately ordered him to pay $355 million in damages. Trump has repeatedly called Engoron “crooked” and “corrupt” and has said that the judge “ought to be seriously looked at” by authorities. ➽ Special Counsel Jack Smith and anyone involved in the federal Trump investigations/indictments Rolling Stone reported in August 2023 that a broad team of Trump allies — including MAGA-world lawyers, former Trump administration officials, and various Trump advisers — were building a list of people to target if Trump regains the White House, including Smith: ➽ Members of the House January 6 Select Committee On June 6, Trump attacked the committee and accused its members of committing crimes in a Truth Social post, writing at the end of the post: “INDICT THE UNSELECT J6 COMMITTEE FOR ILLEGALLY DELETING AND DESTROYING ALL OF THEIR ‘FINDING!’” ➽ Journalists and media organizations Trump continues to attack members of the media, or at least those he views as unfriendly to him and his causes, as “the enemy of the people.” In a September 2023 Truth Social post, Trump attacked NBC News, MSNBC, and the organizations’ parent company, Comcast, before adding: During an appearance on Steve Bannon’s podcast late last year, former Trump National Security Council member Kash Patel, who according to the New York Times will likely have a senior national security role in a second Trump administration, vowed that the administration would go after journalists. Though Patel said a second Trump administration would “follow the facts and the law,” he also said: ➽ Nonprofits and charities that support migrants In a November 2023 Truth Social post, Trump vowed that, “For any radical left charity, non-profit, or so called aid organizations supporting these caravans and illegal aliens, we will prosecute them for their participation in human trafficking, child smuggling, and every other crime we can find…” ➽ Retired Joint Chiefs Chairman Mark Milley In September 2023, Trump posted a message on Truth Social attacking Milley over phone calls the former top general made to China in October 2020 and January 2021 (two days after the insurrection at the U.S. Capitol) offering reassurance that Trump was not planning to attack China. Milley later said that both calls, at the time, were cleared by senior Trump administration Defense officials. But in his Truth Social post, Trump suggested Milley had in fact committed treason, writing that: ➽ Employees at the National Archives Per a Rolling Stone report in October 2022, Trump has expressed an interest in purging the federal agency — which he has said is “woke and broken” —after it sought to recover classified documents Trump took from the White House at the end of his presidency: ➽ Mark Zuckerberg In a February Truth Social post, Trump accused the Facebook/Meta CEO of interference in the 2020 election, citing an unproven allegation that the billionaire attempted to help Democrats via a nonpartisan nonprofit which donated millions of dollars to help bolster the operations of 2,500 local election offices ahead of the election. “He cheated on the Election(s). The whole system is RIGGED. Why isn’t he being prosecuted?” Trump wrote.” Title: Re: Rewriting History Post by: weboflife on Jun 24, 2024 08:48 am "Case in point; Paul McCartney."
May I know what McCartney has done wrong? Title: Re: Rewriting History Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Jun 24, 2024 08:57 am I believe we have a lot of people trying to rewrite history to shape the view of their own personal egos. That’s why we have so many political prisoners in the world. Leaders and politicians want their countries to appear attractive. Even musicians attempt to rewrite history. Case in point; Paul McCartney. Looking at ourselves we do the same just on a more personal level. We have our own take on relationships. It may be quite different then the people we call our friends. They may have quite a different view than us. Quite different explanation of events, circumstances and the communication that took place. Hello Weboflife, let us reread my initial comment before I answer your question because this was your question…. "Case in point; Paul McCartney." May I know what McCartney has done wrong? Now that we have reread my comment together and your question, I would like to know if you think McCartney has done wrong because my observation wasn’t that anyone did something wrong. My observation was that we all have quite a different view than others. Including you and I. We also have quite similar views. So my answer is that this is definitely the case of Paul McCartney as well. The only difference is that his views of what happened between the Beatles being quite different then George’s or or John’s cannot be very well disputed at this point since both his band mates are no longer here to respond. And he continues to make comments that his band mates can no longer reply about. If one of my colleagues or friends had passed to the other side I just think that it would be somewhat inappropriate to comment on their personal lives and what I did with them writing songs for instance when they no longer have a voice in the matter. I do think your question is valid though. I can just say that he (McCartney) has continued to make observations and comments that I’m quite sure George and John would have had quite a different view and opinion of if they were here today to be able to respond. Some musicians have helped other people tremendously before passing to the other side and have had the finances and kindness to do so, there are many worthy examples of this like for instance George Micheal and Harry Chapin. Others have kept most their fortunes to themselves. This can certainly be said of Paul McCartney, in contrast to for instance George Harrison who donated $2 million dollars to SRF before passing and the way he spent his time promoting meditation instead of his attempting to promote and preserve his name for history. So my final comment about your question is that I believe that history will remember the kindness of George Harrison much longer then the contributions of the music of Paul McCartney. Just my opinion. Yours is just as important. Title: Re: Rewriting History Post by: mccoy on Jun 24, 2024 11:41 pm I agree, rich people have a karmic obligation to be generous, otherwise they totally missed the (karmic) point of being rich.
Title: Re: Rewriting History Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Jun 25, 2024 12:08 am I agree, rich people have a karmic obligation to be generous, otherwise they totally missed the (karmic) point of being rich. Wow 😮 that’s an interesting way to put it mccoy. I believe that a large portion of us are being put through a test run of one sort or another. It may or may not interest you that a stellium of planets together in a birth chart shows a new earned freedom with energies, and the way we use those energies given determines its manifestation in proceeding forward and how those energies will separate and act upon one another in future scenarios. You and I both have that constellation in our tropical birth charts. And though not in the same sign in a sidereal chart, those plants still exert a common role together in manifestation. Title: Re: Rewriting History Post by: weboflife on Jun 25, 2024 03:54 am Thanks for the clarification, Steve. Mine wasn't really a comment, just a question.
I just watched a special documentary on the Beatles recordings hosted by a producer interviewing McCartney. On one of the episodes Paul talked about George letting Eric Clapton sing some of George's part in one of the Beatles songs, with Paul pointing out that George didn't care for the accolades, he was just happy to give his friend a part, not verbatim but my take on it. Paul went on to say George was a very wise man, acknowledging Georges keen spiritual leanings. If you think of a crime scene and all the different witnesses, the police piece together the truth from the different perspectives of each of the witnesses point of view. We are all trying to make sense of our two worlds, the outer show and our inner show which can be even more deceptive than what comes from outside. That's my understanding of Master's teachings anyway, and I think the crime scene scenario backs this up. Title: Re: Rewriting History Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Jun 25, 2024 04:33 am Thanks for the clarification, Steve. Mine wasn't really a comment, just a question. I just watched a special documentary on the Beatles recordings hosted by a producer interviewing McCartney. On one of the episodes Paul talked about George letting Eric Clapton sing some of George's part in one of the Beatles songs, with Paul pointing out that George didn't care for the accolades, he was just happy to give his friend a part, not verbatim but my take on it. Paul went on to say George was a very wise man, acknowledging Georges keen spiritual leanings. If you think of a crime scene and all the different witnesses, the police piece together the truth from the different perspectives of each of the witnesses point of view. We are all trying to make sense of our two worlds, the outer show and our inner show which can be even more deceptive than what comes from outside. That's my understanding of Master's teachings anyway, and I think the crime scene scenario backs this up. Yea we often see a bit of ourselves in the outer reels. We come into this life working out desires and perhaps 🤔 creating some new ones along the way. The phenomenal success of those guys and the talent they left, led me at one time to ask the head monk of the monastery where I lived for 6 years. “How do such people come into this life with so much talent from an early age? His answer; ‘they attend various regions in the after life where they are trained to work on something of that nature’ to paraphrase him. So I would suppose that it would take many incarnations of work and experience as well as some degree of good karma to even be able to be able to go to those regions of the astral realm. Not to mention the infinite temptations of worldly life and fame that would hack away at their talent to express such innovative expression, once they were given the script. Such people are very complex and have many good and some challenging aspects to their persona. Through them we are often able to learn about ourselves as well, since everything we witness is part of our consciousness. Just as we have seen unkind words others have thrown at us as barbs, they also have had many unkind thoughts about one another yet there have been moments of understanding as well, and appreciation for all our life’s experiences. Title: Re: Rewriting History Post by: mccoy on Jun 25, 2024 05:45 pm “How do such people come into this life with so much talent from an early age? His answer; ‘they attend various regions in the after life where they are trained to work on something of that nature’ to paraphrase him. So I would suppose that it would take many incarnations of work and experience as well as some degree of good karma to even be able to be able to go to those regions of the astral realm. Not to mention the infinite temptations of worldly life and fame that would hack away at their talent to express such innovative expression, once they were given the script. Such people are very complex and have many good and some challenging aspects to their persona. Through them we are often able to learn about ourselves as well, since everything we witness is part of our consciousness. Just as we have seen unkind words others have thrown at us as barbs, they also have had many unkind thoughts about one another yet there have been moments of understanding as well, and appreciation for all our life’s experiences. That's an astounding concept. So talent wouldn't be just the fruit of the experience of previous lives, but something far beyond, targeted development of those abilities to superhuman levels. And it would be valid for different areas, such as the sciences, and mathematics and so on... I have something to add to your considerations above, a couple of things actually. First, talent is not a universal gift. More clearly, it is not universally accepted by everyone on earth, just by a large number of people. For example, I never liked the music of the Beatles, to me they are not the manifestation of a particular musical talent. The same I'm sure would apply to many people. Notwithstanding, I'm aware that they are recognized as the absolute founders of pop music and loved by tens of millions, maybe hundreds. My point is that if talented ones become too proud, they would do better to notice that many people do not care at all of their gifts. Last, we see that very often such extremely talented people lose their mental balance, this is often because they do not recognize their talent as an expression of God, but rather as an expression of their ego. Title: Re: Rewriting History Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Jun 25, 2024 09:01 pm “How do such people come into this life with so much talent from an early age? His answer; ‘they attend various regions in the after life where they are trained to work on something of that nature’ to paraphrase him. So I would suppose that it would take many incarnations of work and experience as well as some degree of good karma to even be able to be able to go to those regions of the astral realm. Not to mention the infinite temptations of worldly life and fame that would hack away at their talent to express such innovative expression, once they were given the script. Such people are very complex and have many good and some challenging aspects to their persona. Through them we are often able to learn about ourselves as well, since everything we witness is part of our consciousness. Just as we have seen unkind words others have thrown at us as barbs, they also have had many unkind thoughts about one another yet there have been moments of understanding as well, and appreciation for all our life’s experiences. That's an astounding concept. So talent wouldn't be just the fruit of the experience of previous lives, but something far beyond, targeted development of those abilities to superhuman levels. And it would be valid for different areas, such as the sciences, and mathematics and so on... I have something to add to your considerations above, a couple of things actually. First, talent is not a universal gift. More clearly, it is not universally accepted by everyone on earth, just by a large number of people. For example, I never liked the music of the Beatles, to me they are not the manifestation of a particular musical talent. The same I'm sure would apply to many people. Notwithstanding, I'm aware that they are recognized as the absolute founders of pop music and loved by tens of millions, maybe hundreds. My point is that if talented ones become too proud, they would do better to notice that many people do not care at all of their gifts. Last, we see that very often such extremely talented people lose their mental balance, this is often because they do not recognize their talent as an expression of God, but rather as an expression of their ego. Mccoy thanks for your additional reasoning and diplomacy, which like usual are a developed ability and ‘gift’ you’ve been given to navigate through the treacherous worldly realm of excess; too much sex, drugs, alcohol, social intrusion and proudness that accompanies all earthly attainments and therefore delusions. Most likely the attainments of such success for such salient individuals will be in historical accounts for perhaps a few hundred years at most, and then become footnotes in historical remembrance before disappearing altogether. I agree there are without much doubt many places of higher learning after this life just as we have some here in the material realm. The music of Bach, Beethoven, Debussy and Rodrigo have been an inspiration for many pop stars of our generation and some of it transcends time much more than some variations we have heard today. But as we move upward in the Dwapara Yuga most likely people like Amma, Gandhi, Nelson Mandela and Alexei Navalny will be remembered even more for helping eliminate human suffering from the planet and standing up for the cause of truth and who showed the strength of their spirit, despite all the suffering they endured. The writings, poetry and plays of Shakespeare, Herman Hesse, Yogananda and Kahil Gibran will most likely still be read far beyond the achievements of today. And the science of Einstein and Tesla will still be looked at when other passing phenomena are only a memory. Jazz and other forms of improvisation as well as music from remote places of the globe and cosmos will no doubt be influential in the future. Not many musicians or scientists had a universal enough perspective to get beyond the quagmire of the small lives they lived…the consciousness they were circumscribed into and the identity they succumbed to from their fans adoration. Title: Re: Rewriting History Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Jun 28, 2024 12:17 am Web thought I’d send you this, you may or may not be interested;
"If I'm going to put on a show that lasts less than two and a half hours or three hours I don't even get on stage in a crowded arena, for an audience that often saved months to see me live. I am fully aware of my role in popular culture, for the Beatles, for history. I currently have 70 songs in my playlist that everyone knows and everyone would like to see me play. I can't play all this for the time, yet my setlist has 40 tracks. Trying to save the basics, appropriate what should be appropriate and dare in two or three tracks. Yes, a lot of music and a lot of history get left behind, that's the weight I carry for being a Beatle.“ Paul McCartney Title: Re: Rewriting History Post by: weboflife on Jun 28, 2024 01:49 am Thanks Steve, always happy for Beatles updates. My parents brought me and my brother to Australia from England in 1971. They had the classic 60's look of 2 very cosmopolitan hippies. Avid Beatles fans too, so I listened to lots of Beatles in childhood.
I think I understand McCartney's frustrations, but we all have to deal with having to leave our history and efforts behind us on this mortal plane. We can take our developed strengths with us, but our flaws too. What I really appreciate is that we never waste a moment on spiritual effort, or so we're taught and I hope its true. McCartney and the Beatles are idolized by millions. Thats a lot of pressure. George was reticent to release my sweet Lord because he didn't want to put himself on a spiritual pedestal. He said he would have preferred someone else to do it. But he had the moxy and I'm glad he did. Title: Re: Rewriting History Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Jun 28, 2024 07:14 am Thanks Steve, always happy for Beatles updates. My parents brought me and my brother to Australia from England in 1971. They had the classic 60's look of 2 very cosmopolitan hippies. Avid Beatles fans too, so I listened to lots of Beatles in childhood. I think I understand McCartney's frustrations, but we all have to deal with having to leave our history and efforts behind us on this mortal plane. We can take our developed strengths with us, but our flaws too. What I really appreciate is that we never waste a moment on spiritual effort, or so we're taught and I hope its true. McCartney and the Beatles are idolized by millions. Thats a lot of pressure. George was reticent to release my sweet Lord because he didn't want to put himself on a spiritual pedestal. He said he would have preferred someone else to do it. But he had the moxy and I'm glad he did. I like your perspective, yea we are learning from other souls as well. I am learning some piano styles through McCartneys talent and playing. If we seek perfection in our learning we should seek a Guru. I do not expect spiritual guidance from these guys. But I have learned much about music from their approach to playing and writing. Title: Re: Rewriting History Post by: weboflife on Jun 28, 2024 08:00 am Yes, being a muso I'm sure you could learn so much from them.
I do think we can take spiritual lessons from everyone...especially what not to do! And of course from our own mistakes. But when it comes to public opinion I love what Sri Ramakrishna told one of his disciples..."Spit on public opinion." Title: Re: Rewriting History Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Jun 28, 2024 06:37 pm Yes, being a muso I'm sure you could learn so much from them. I do think we can take spiritual lessons from everyone...especially what not to do! And of course from our own mistakes. But when it comes to public opinion I love what Sri Ramakrishna told one of his disciples..."Spit on public opinion." Thanks Weboflife. It may be surprising but I believe that any talent I have to do anything significant has come from God. My effort to ‘ make anything happen, is a small part in the totality of anything that could turn out significant. That is why I constantly pray for grace. Thus the term ‘gifted’ which often is heard in relation to talent. And I would say your comment about ‘learning what not to do’ is more apt. I’ve learned many things from observations of other famous people and seeing how they live and the results showing in their life. As no doubt i have by life experiences as well. I listen and emulate a wide variety of musicians and people of all backgrounds of life. The Beatles only being one. Recently musicians as, Gerry Garcia, George Harrison, George Micheal, John Lennon, Harry Chapin, the band AhHa and Crowded House have all been influential in music and song writing.. Some musicians have unusual skills at certain instruments, for instance Brian Jones and Elton John, others have a unique ability at expressing social issues like Bob Dylan, Jon Lennon and Joni Mitchell. And there are those that have shown incredible kindness and generosity such as George Micheal, George Harrison and Harry Chapin. Quite obviously I have not even begun to include actors and sports people and other professions where like some politicians; they have shown incredible courage, leadership and sacrifice. I’m limiting this to musicians in this particular entry. Rewriting history is not always a bad thing, as there are people who have a higher calling in life who seem to rewrite history in their own conscious awareness independent of the social milieu. These people are those that you and I mostly attempt to emulate in our lives. So yes your example of Ramakrishnas comment above rings true. Apparently you also find inspiration from others not associated with your specific religious inclinations. “I am just an ordinary woman (or man). Any spiritual powers that manifest through me are not my own, but rather the Grace of the Divine.” ~ Sri Anandamayi Ma Title: Re: Rewriting History Post by: weboflife on Jun 29, 2024 03:44 am Yes, being a muso I'm sure you could learn so much from them. I do think we can take spiritual lessons from everyone...especially what not to do! And of course from our own mistakes. But when it comes to public opinion I love what Sri Ramakrishna told one of his disciples..."Spit on public opinion." Thanks Weboflife. It may be surprising but I believe that any talent I have to do anything significant has come from God. My effort to ‘ make anything happen, is a small part in the totality of anything that could turn out significant. That is why I constantly pray for grace. Thus the term ‘gifted’ which often is heard in relation to talent. And I would say your comment about ‘learning what not to do’ is more apt. I’ve learned many things from observations of other famous people and seeing how they live and the results showing in their life. As no doubt i have by life experiences as well. I listen and emulate a wide variety of musicians and people of all backgrounds of life. The Beatles only being one. Recently musicians as, Gerry Garcia, George Harrison, George Micheal, John Lennon, Harry Chapin, the band AhHa and Crowded House have all been influential in music and song writing.. Some musicians have unusual skills at certain instruments, for instance Brian Jones and Elton John, others have a unique ability at expressing social issues like Bob Dylan, Jon Lennon and Joni Mitchell. And there are those that have shown incredible kindness and generosity such as George Micheal, George Harrison and Harry Chapin. Quite obviously I have not even begun to include actors and sports people and other professions where like some politicians; they have shown incredible courage, leadership and sacrifice. I’m limiting this to musicians in this particular entry. Rewriting history is not always a bad thing, as there are people who have a higher calling in life who seem to rewrite history in their own conscious awareness independent of the social milieu. These people are those that you and I mostly attempt to emulate in our lives. So yes your example of Ramakrishnas comment above rings true. Apparently you also find inspiration from others not associated with your specific religious inclinations. “I am just an ordinary woman (or man). Any spiritual powers that manifest through me are not my own, but rather the Grace of the Divine.” ~ Sri Anandamayi Ma Yes, I read up on a lot of the saints of all religions. My spiritual library just keeps growing...what will become of it when I move on is a question my wife wants answered? None of our children seem the least bit interested in matters spiritual, not yet anyway. Crowded House were a great band, with some lovely songs. Just over the ditch from New Zealand. I think with all the higher profile people and with everyone it's nice if we can see God in all people and all conditions. Not always easy, but with effort and sometimes pain it can be done. I like your reference to 'gifted'. Yes it's really the Divine working through all. Any talent is just what you say...a gift. Title: Re: Rewriting History Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Apr 10, 2025 03:23 pm Federal employees are about to get a new level of workplace scrutiny. The Elon Musk-led cost-cutting team in the Trump administration is using AI to scan employees’ communications for anti-Trump feelings, Reuters reported. One former federal staffer said while they were used to scrutiny in their job, “now, the stakes are higher.”
It’s no secret that the Trump administration is fixing particularly hard scrutiny on the federal workforce. But now, they’ve reportedly added artificial intelligence to the mix. The Elon Musk-led team known as the Department of Government Efficiency has rolled out AI to monitor workers’ communications for perceived anti-Trump sentiment, Reuters reported, citing two unnamed people. The technology is already being used at the Environmental Protection Agency, the report said. Firing or reassigning workers based on their feelings about President Trump would be against the law, which protects civil servants from being penalized for political reasons. “It’s a prohibited personnel practice to discriminate against someone for partisan political reasons,” said Block. “It’s essentially political discrimination.” Yahoo news Title: Re: Rewriting History Post by: mccoy on Apr 10, 2025 07:03 pm My reply: is that true? It that meant to avoid exagerations, boycott and so on? My impression is the latter; some federal employees are ready to boycott the new administration and this cannot be tolerated. It is already happening with judges who want to overturn the executive orders. This is an old tactics inspired by the former Soviet Union.
Title: Re: Rewriting History Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on May 06, 2025 12:39 pm My reply: is that true? It that meant to avoid exagerations, boycott and so on? My impression is the latter; some federal employees are ready to boycott the new administration and this cannot be tolerated. It is already happening with judges who want to overturn the executive orders. This is an old tactics inspired by the former Soviet Union. Can a President of the United States of America be tolerated for ignoring the law and constitution? Judges are not attempting to overturn executive orders who are doing their job by upholding the constitution and the law. We have a president who has consistently believed and acted as he is like a king - above the law - and not a President who must obey the law. "President Trump’s failure to acknowledge that he swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution is unprecedented in American history," Gerhardt said. "Most presidents have not been lawyers, but every president, other than Trump, has acknowledged that every federal official, including the president, has the duty to uphold the Constitution." Trump, with his right hand raised, took the oath of office on Jan. 20 as prescribed by Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution. "I Donald John Trump do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States," Trump said during his inauguration. ~yahoo news Title: Re: Rewriting History Post by: mccoy on May 06, 2025 02:40 pm Quote Can a President of the United States of America be tolerated for ignoring the law and constitution? Judges are not attempting to overturn executive orders who are doing their job by upholding the constitution and the law. We have a president who has consistently believed and acted as he is like a king - above the law - and not a President who must obey the law. Here I beg not to agree. Radical left judges have organized very soon to reject all executive orders, without any discrimination. Even the orders regarding the deportation of the nastiest vicious gang members of Tren de Arargua and MS-13. After that, there has been a more acceptable discussion in the Supreme Court, which decreed that every person should have an individual audience before deportation. This is the final decision of the supreme judicial committee of the USA, apparently against Trump but actually in favour of him, since his target was totally out of reality. Deporting millions of people so easily? No way. There are cases of one judge letting the defendant escape thru a secondary exit of the court, and another one hiding a Tren de Aragua member in his house and even letting him go to the shooting range with the assault rifle of his son. This is the proof that even within judges there are radical extremists of every type and gender, whose only purpose is to fight the new administration with whatever means they can, legal and illegal. Title: Re: Rewriting History Post by: mccoy on May 06, 2025 05:41 pm Quote It’s no secret that the Trump administration is fixing particularly hard scrutiny on the federal workforce. But now, they’ve reportedly added artificial intelligence to the mix. The Elon Musk-led team known as the Department of Government Efficiency has rolled out AI to monitor workers’ communications for perceived anti-Trump sentiment, Reuters reported, citing two unnamed people. The technology is already being used at the Environmental Protection Agency, the report said. Firing or reassigning workers based on their feelings about President Trump would be against the law, which protects civil servants from being penalized for political reasons. The AIs are evidently used to fight voluntarily inefficient work and illegal obstructionism. The radical lefts have permanently donned black glasses, through which everything the new administration does, that's the hand of Satan. But they have been donning such black glasses for years, maybe decades, most of their words and actions being influenced by the legion of evil powers. Title: Re: Rewriting History Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Jul 15, 2025 09:34 pm https://www.thedailybeast.com/pardoned-jan-6-rioter-ordered-to-pay-500k-to-widow-of-officer-who-killed-himself/ As Dishonest Don tries to rewrite history let us not forget; Trump Pardonee Hit With $500K Riot Verdict |