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Title: The unfolding events challenging democracy and free elections around the world. Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Mar 11, 2022 06:15 pm Presently on a smaller scale ( then what is presented on our media coverage) I am presenting details of the unfolding drama here at the Portal, surrounding Ukraine, that is a threat to democracy around the world. We have experienced that same threat here in the United States in the last year with the efforts of one man to overthrow free elections and make the United States into a government ran by a personality cult for a minority of our population. Donald Trump fit the same description of a would be emperor, that we now see facing us from his one time buddy in Moscow: Putin who is increasing the presence of the possibility of WWlll with his aggressive behavior, and is dealing a genocidal blow to democracy and a freely elected government in Ukraine.
Jitendra Title: Re: The unfolding events challenging democracy and free elections around the world. Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Dec 26, 2023 12:31 am Donald Trump led an insurrection against the United States
Section 3 of the 14th Amendment “prohibits anyone who has violated their oath of office, by engaging in insurrection or aiding in a rebellion, from running for President. Title: Re: The unfolding events challenging democracy and free elections around the world. Post by: guest587 on Dec 26, 2023 12:34 am Sorry Steve, but that is a lie. Donald Trump did not lead an insurrection. See attached.
Trump is not the reason for the unarmed fedsurrection. The people that attack him are. Not considering the FBI involvement, the entire reason people were there protesting was because of the relentless attacks by the establishment, fake news media, summer riots of 2020, the attacks against President Trump, the American People and the Constitutional Republic. This was the BIGGEST protest of our lifetime. And they're trying to cement their lie, because they never want to see that many people stand against them again. [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: The unfolding events challenging democracy and free elections around the world. Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Dec 26, 2023 12:45 am It’s very simple… see for yourself. Let your eyes see the forced rebellion. Be real Eric. Those people were violent and forced their way into the capital. At what point will you admit that these people forced there way into the capital building? Simply open your eyes. It is obvious by the confederate flags, Trump and Maga signs and flags who they were. Look at all the Trump hats they were wearing. Trump supporters broke down barricades and jumped through capital windows.You must take me for a fool to ignore the obvious. And then Fuhrer Trump had the bombastic gall to support these violent protesters at the end of the video.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Iludfj6Pe7w Title: Re: The unfolding events challenging democracy and free elections around the world. Post by: guest587 on Dec 26, 2023 01:09 am This is limited footage that does not include the instigation lead by federal agents. It's very easy to create a narrative based on limited data. My eyes are opened, as well as many other Americans who know the truth- Jan 6th was not an insurrection. It was protest of massive proportions, and entrapment lead by special interest. New footage has since been released showing police escorting the protestors through the halls, also police firing rubber bullets and smoke grenades into the crowds creating a tribal frenzy before anyone ever walked into the capitol. You don't see this kind of stuff in mainstream news because the mainstream news belongs to the special interest.
Capital Police Started Jan 6th: https://www.banned.video/watch?id=655cfd6f165be0e1475349bc Treniss Evans Responds to Release of More Than 10K Hours of J6 Footage Exposing Deep State Inside Job: https://www.banned.video/watch?id=655bf9b7165be0e1474d7f89 New J6 Footage Nukes “Insurrection” Narrative: https://www.banned.video/watch?id=655baaa81734fe7437939264 https://rumble.com/search/all?q=jan%206th%20footage All of these links include the additional footage that prove entrapment. With crowds that massive, emotions and tribal frenzy are a real thing- it does not change the facts I have presented in this post or my previous one. EDIT: See here? I say what I said with conviction that what I am saying is TRUTH. That anyone else who sees what I'm seeing is seeing the truth. That is Ego. I truly feel, by intuition and spiritual discernment, that the J6 narrative is a lie. I may be right. But it is Ego that demands I'm right. It's the same for a person who stands on the other side of the argument. To question: "how can they not see the obvious?" Is the same as saying, my views are right, theirs are wrong. Considering all the misinformation that has come out, around the world, at this time- it's fair to say we are operating from a limited scope. We may never know the truth of the matter as it relates to the worlds drama. There is so much we don't know. We don't know what went through each persons mind, we aren't even in politics. We don't understand everything a standing politician goes through, what information has been presented to them and how. What has been withheld from them and why. We can only go off what we think we know, and what we're presented. Title: Re: The unfolding events challenging democracy and free elections around the world. Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Dec 26, 2023 01:37 am Eric you are sending me more videos of Alex Jones justifying his protests on the capital no videos of police escorting rioters into the capital. You have no proof as I do. You have seen it. I can not help that you are in denial.
Title: Re: The unfolding events challenging democracy and free elections around the world. Post by: guest587 on Dec 26, 2023 01:39 am Entrapment is a practice in which a law enforcement agent or an agent of the state induces a person to commit a "crime" that the person would have otherwise been unlikely or unwilling to commit.[1] It "is the conception and planning of an offense by an officer or agent, and the procurement of its commission by one who would not have perpetrated it except for the trickery, persuasion or fraud of the officer or state agent".[2]
Police conduct rising to the level of entrapment is broadly discouraged and thus, in many jurisdictions, is available as a defense against criminal liability. Sting operations, through which police officers or agents engage in deception to try to catch persons who are committing crimes, raise concerns about possible entrapment.[3] Depending on the law in the jurisdiction, the prosecution may be required to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant was not entrapped or the defendant may be required to prove that they were entrapped as an affirmative defense. In the practice of journalism and whistle-blowing entrapment means "deceptive and trust-breaking techniques ... applied to trick someone to commit a legal or moral transgression."[4][5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entrapment I would include, that carrying your enemies banner and wearing their garbs in order to blame and mislead is also a type of entrapment. Such is the case of John Sullivan- who disguised himself as a "Trump supporter." Quote John Sullivan, the Antifa and BLM activist who stormed the Capitol on January 6 while disguised in Trump 2020 gear and captured video of the Capitol Police shooting of Ashli Babbitt has had $90,000 – ostensibly the funds he was paid by mainstream media outlets for his viral footage from the day – seized by the federal government https://www.infowars.com/posts/antifa-activist-who-sold-footage-of-january-6-to-cnn-nbc-had-90000-seized-by-feds/Yesterday night, Reuters reported that “U.S. authorities have confiscated roughly $90,000” from Sullivan. “Prosecutors have filed additional criminal charges against the man, John Earle Sullivan, a self-described political activist who is accused of entering the Capitol building and participating in the riot,” Reuters reported. Reuters notes that Sullivan boasted, “my footage is worth like a million of dollars, millions of dollars” and “Sullivan sold that footage to several news outlets for a total of $90,000, according to the seizure warrant. The news outlets were redacted from the warrant.” At the time of Sullivan’s arrest, National File reported, “Despite claiming he only entered the building in a journalistic capacity, the indictment against Sullivan declares otherwise. The 18-page affidavit claims Sullivan allegedly incited violence by exclaiming ‘we gotta get this shit burned’ and ‘it’s our house motherfuckers.’” Title: Re: The unfolding events challenging democracy and free elections around the world. Post by: guest587 on Dec 26, 2023 01:40 am Eric you are sending me more videos of Alwz Jones justifying his protests on the capital no videos of police escorting rioters into the capital. If you watch the videos you will see police escorting protestors. Simple as. Title: Re: The unfolding events challenging democracy and free elections around the world. Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Dec 26, 2023 01:43 am Eric you are sending me more videos of Alex Jones justifying his protests on the capital no videos of police escorting rioters into the capital. If you watch the videos you will see police escorting protestors. Simple as. I did and have not seen that or any video that would even remotely suggest what you are saying. Yet, it is quite obvious the rioters pushed away barricades and jumped through windows… you see them fighting with police attempting to force their way forward. You can hear Fuhrer Trump congratulating them at the end of the video I have sent you. The reason for Alex Jones even being there was a lie. Trump lost the election. We have gone over and over that. He is a loser, because he cannot and will not accept any loss. Title: Re: The unfolding events challenging democracy and free elections around the world. Post by: guest587 on Dec 26, 2023 01:54 am Steve, I've watched your video- I've seen it a year ago and I watched it again today after you shared it. I don't think you've watched what I've provided(it's okay if you didn't.) But if you did, you can see the footage of protestors being escorted.
Take this link for example, https://banned.video/watch?id=655baaa81734fe7437939264 and fast forward to 1:25. It means you'd had only to watch for one minute and twenty five seconds to see the footage. It's the exact link in my post above where it says, New J6 Footage Nukes “Insurrection” Narrative: https://www.banned.video/watch?id=655baaa81734fe7437939264 And there are many more. I can't help if you don't care to watch, and choose to believe what you do. But I can reply and say I believe you are perpetuating a lie. That lie is definitely an attempt to subvert free elections around the world. That lie is this idea that President Trump lead an insurrection. It's not true, and I've shared why I think the protest happened in my initial reply to you. I stand by it. Considering the amount of people that did show up to air their grievances, I don't think Joe Biden is the legitimate president. And all we've seen so far is exactly fitting to the title of your thread. Title: Re: The unfolding events challenging democracy and free elections around the world. Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Dec 26, 2023 02:10 am There is a distinct difference between your video and mine. These people you show are walking somewhere… who knows where. The police had to fight those people off in my video. So are you saying suddenly everything became peaceful when they forced their way in? Strange you were not able to show any of their peaceful walk up the capital steps and into the capital. Again and again and again I’ve asked you why Trump and his supporters lied about the election results? And that is why they were at the capital in the first place…..to perpetuate that lie. There are so many accounts by the capital police of the violence committed by the Maga People who were supporters of the Fuhrer that day. Must I show you the evidence again and again??? There was no election stolen in the first place. Even the Fuhrers Vice President would not go along with that lie.
Title: Re: The unfolding events challenging democracy and free elections around the world. Post by: guest587 on Dec 26, 2023 02:20 am Namaste Brother.
My last contribution towards this particular discussion, for the time being. https://rumble.com/v1azxfn-officers-escorted-the-crowd-into-the-interior-of-the-capitol-building.html Video description The following footage was obtained from the United States Department of Justice. It contains surveillance video of the Upper West Terrace doors of the United States Capitol on January 6, 2021. Just after 2:33PM, police officers allow five individuals to exist the Capitol through the Upper West Terrace doors. At 2:34PM, a gentleman holding an American flag catches the door just as the last protestor leaves. He turns to the crowd outside and waves towards the door. At the same, at 2:34PM, a gentleman with a red cap approaches the interior doors. As the police officer notices him, he continues to approach. The police officers holds the door for the protestor, as he enters the Capitol undeterred. At 2:35PM, a large group enters the interior of the Capitol with police standing at the doors. As a steady stream of protestors enter through the Upper West Terrace doors, they can see police officers standing at the interior doors allowing the people to pass. A steady stream of individuals pass by police as they stand aside without deterring protestors for several minutes. At 2:40PM, police stop the protesters to speak to them again. At 2:44PM, a police officer on the bottom of the screen can be seen speaking to the officers in front of him and pulling them away, indicating to the crowd that they are allowed to enter. The officers then turn their backs to the crowd, which indicates they do not possess fear of the protestors. The officers then escort the crowd into the interior of the Capitol. Title: Re: The unfolding events challenging democracy and free elections around the world. Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Dec 26, 2023 02:36 am I have watched your videos. The question remains why were these people there in the first place? Would they believe the lies of the Fuhrer over the testimonies of most of his chosen aids? Eric I have supported you on almost all your interests here. But on this issue I cannot. And because of the danger of this man you are following and his lies. I take great issue on this subject and will continue to until we are rid of him.
US election results 2020: Joe Biden's defeat of Donald Trump Georgia recertifies election results, confirming Biden’s victory, despite Trump’s continued refusal to formally concede Niko Kommenda, Antonio Voce, Frank Hulley-Jones, Anna Leach and Seán Clarke Tue 8 Dec 2020 10.21 GMT Last modified on Thu 21 Jan 2021 03.18 GMT BIDEN 306 electoral college votes 81,281,888 votes TRUMP electoral college votes 74,223,251 votes 232 How does the election work? Georgia recertifies election results, confirming Biden’s victory, despite Trump’s continued refusal to formally concede Live coverage / House to debate charge of 'incitement of insurrection' By all accounts Biden won the election. He won the popular vote by the largest majority ever for a presidential election and he won significantly in electoral votes as well. No amount bullying, intimidation and denial will change this fact; Fuhrer Trump lost. And there are many more. I can't help if you don't care to watch, and choose to believe what you do. But I can reply and say I believe you are perpetuating a lie. That lie is definitely an attempt to subvert free elections around the world. That lie is this idea that President Trump lead an insurrection. It's not true, and I've shared why I think the protest happened in my initial reply to you. I stand by it. Considering the amount of people that did show up to air their grievances, I don't think Joe Biden is the legitimate president. And all we've seen so far is exactly fitting to the title of your thread. I did watch Eric. Elections are not determined by ‘sentiment’ Eric, and the amount of people sharing their grievances. If it were so we would have had a civil war after the last presidential election. But in fact there are an overwhelming amount of people in this country who are civil and did not let the crimes and violence by the MAGA supporters of Fuhrer Trump affect and provoke them to violence. By all accounts of the Washington Police the group that came to Washington was violent, it was not a peaceful demonstration. See personal testimony of Police below: https://youtu.be/HyUYVweoaNA?si=4yMkfwdgPu7EAbJB The violence committed was intended for some purpose. It was an attempted insurrection that fortunately failed. Since you do not want to think of an insurrection you have to live with your own views and the affect they have had on our country. I’m not here to judge that but the outcome of the violence committed that day lives on. If you want to be associated with it, that is your choice. And you are responsible for your views believing ‘I am perpetrating a lie’ Let God decide that not you or I, that is my response. Title: Re: The unfolding events challenging democracy and free elections around the world. Post by: guest587 on Dec 26, 2023 04:04 am Ok Steve. I believe you watched it.
My coworkers Uncle feels extremely passionate about the Earth being flat. Although I disagree with such a notion, I realize it doesn't matter. It only matters to that person, and the people who would choose to spend their time butting heads with that person. No one can convince this person otherwise. Despite the evidence. This person is still morally sound and practices things I would consider good and important. For me, I don't need to understand why they feel the Earth is flat. But I think by avoiding condemnation, attacking them, or placing them in the limited scope of my reality- I may be able to understand why they might think they're right. They don't ask me to believe them. I think there's a psychological separation that happens when we feel we are so different from another that gives our Ego an inch. You give it an inch, and next thing you know- you're suffering all over again, revisiting lessons, and have just experienced a type of spiritual amnesia. Doesn't the gita say either the Ego rules us or the Soul? Anytime we suffer, it's because our Ego demands that our notion of reality be validated as the correct way. Who am I to make such demands? If I am hung up, then I am suffering. I suppose I am suffering because I don't understand. So this need to understand is not right or wrong. In a way, it's all right. But this is one of those things I realize not to get hung up on. Not that the destruction of sovereignty isn't concerning- but that our idea of exactly how that's happening and somehow it's my views vs yours. That's where people get hung up. Then they feel all kind of regret, and they wonder why? That's us being, "plugged in" as the woman in that 5D video you shared, mentioned. My views vs your views is not how I wish to engage the world. At least, I am trying. This emotional ploy is its own type of entrapment with regards to Maya(illusion) and personal development. To me, there are greater mysteries to discover than to argue about whose view on the world is the right one. I do think the J6 insurrection as it has been reported by our propaganda outlets is a lie. I do think there are corrupt forces in our nation presenting lies as reality. But I realize it's a subject that people are so emotional about, they can't see that the people who think the J6 narrative a lie and the people who think it true are worried about the same thing. Instead, they feel so appalled they shut themselves off from their fellow man and from sensing the greater reality. That greater reality is one that isn't ruled by Ego but by the individuals choice to allow Soul to reign supreme. I find all the recent topics relevant- like it's not what others do but how I react to what others do. I was just in conversation with my self about the very topic this morning. We have real examples, of people of Faith, who have experienced liberation in the most oppressive scenarios. Political prisoners, there is a woman who practiced Falun Gong who recounts a miracle where she prayed to God to be saved from the guards who were about to rape her. They never raped her. There is the example of a great Saint who was imprisoned by a Roman emperor- everyone fell in love with this Saint while he was imprisoned. The guard even asked for his help in writing letters. The emperor did not want to kill this Saint and he asked him to renounce his faith, and said he would be saved. But the Saint refused, because in his mind- he was already free. Despite his execution, this Saint lives on in. Say what you want, feel how you feel, it's all good. I've made my peace with the subject and realize that sometimes we need to go down our unique paths and plug in to certain parts of 3D and the Ego drama in order to understand or remember. We're all ignorant to an extent. Cheers. Title: Re: The unfolding events challenging democracy and free elections around the world. Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Dec 26, 2023 11:25 am Trump: 'May they rot in Hell. Merry Christmas'
Former President Trump in an unusual Christmas message on Truth Social called for various people he sees as “looking to destroy” the nation to “rot in Hell.” ~AppleNews The challenge remains Eric. Ofcourse we can have differences of opinion. Is that really the point when felony charges could land Fuhrer Trump in jail for the rest of his life? Or that MAGA people shout ‘throw her in jail’ and truly want Clinton in jail? To have an opinion the world is flat doesn’t really hurt anyone except oneself, and perhaps 🤔 NASA funding. But to tell others they do not have the right to be in office in a free country where they were elected to that position is quite another. To be able to go to a public place of talking about political differences is one thing, but to charge someone with crimes because you expressed a differing opinion is quite another. Do you see? We both can have our opinions here and not get hung up on those opinions. But if someone decides they are going to break into a building because of those opinions, we are now talking about something more than an opinion. If someone has an opinion they don’t like their governor which happened here in Michigan, they have a right to express it but they took it a step further and a attempted to kidnap her and made threats known to kill her. Yes we can comfortably sit in the comfort of our own house and express differences. We can even express our own opinions here on the portal. We are fortunate to still be able to do that. Although you and I probably do not want to be in prison, poisoned, intimidated and threatened for our opinions, which is taking place in Russia today. And there are people who admire such governments and their leaders right here in this country. Some of us have concerns about that and seeing those around us suffering because there are those that simply do not care about the views of others. In fact to the extent they are ok putting them out of their country… either poisoning them, have someone push them out the window, throw them off a balcony or just murdering them. I truly feel it is a valuable ‘spiritual quality’ to have such concerns. For people forcing others in jail and to needlessly suffer, it is a matter of being right at any cost. And they are scheming and planning to take down anyone who disagrees. You personally may not feel that way, but if you supported others that want to shut me up and imprison me how should I support you in friendship? Would I be able to rely on you when I sat in prison at the evil intents of such people ? Should I see you as a true friend if you support such people who truly want me imprisoned or out a job? This may not be an issue to get emotional or hung up on. I may have no ego in the matter. Perhaps I do not . Perhaps Jesus had no ego in the matter of other people nailing him on a cross to die. That is really not the issue here. The issue is do we accept others who are willing to engage in such violence? And what have I done when such means are taken against those around me? Nothing? Am I absolved of all responsibility for not responding? I think we seriously have to question whether we want to be represented by people who have behaviors like this; Most global political, spiritual and national leaders mark Christmas with a plea for peace, or by stressing the virtues of family and unity. That’s not Donald Trump’s style. The ex-president unleashed an online torrent of fury and bitterness, largely over his legal plights, spanning Christmas Eve and Christmas Day, previewing the discord and personal obsessions he will inflict on the nation in a pivotal election year in 2024. ~Stephen Collinson With that kind of behavior is it any wonder that you and I had differences of opinion on what his supporters, that he influenced, did on Jan 6 as he watched all this, like a puff adder, smugly smiling, in the comfort of a room viewing the violence? At best let’s be prepared to use anti-venom to survive such blow hard reactions from accidental steps in his direction…. https://youtube.com/shorts/ifqxSRRKDUA?si=g72hynmUTO1Zp36C Title: Re: The unfolding events challenging democracy and free elections around the world. Post by: guest587 on Dec 28, 2023 03:55 am So... Trump asked the protestors to go home. He asked that people be peaceful.
Quote Please support our Capitol Police and Law Enforcement. They are truly on the side of our Country. Stay peaceful! Quote I am asking for everyone at the U.S. Capitol to remain peaceful. No violence! Remember, WE are the Party of Law & Order – respect the Law and our great men and women in Blue. Thank you! ~Donald TrumpHe also asked for additional military aid, which was turned down. Fact checkers say these things did not happen- but the full report can be seen here: https://justthenews.com/sites/default/files/2022-06/USCPJan.6Timeline.pdf Quote ...“An official timeline of the Jan. 6 tragedy assembled by Capitol Police shows that a Defense Department official reached out to a Capitol Police deputy chief, Sean Gallagher, on Jan. 2, 2021 to see if a request for troops was forthcoming, but the offer was quickly rejected after a consultation with then-Chief Steve Sund.” This reporting flies in the face of Pelosi’s sham political witch-hunt assertion this evening that President Trump did not offer the Capitol National Guard protection ahead of the events of January 6, 2021. Speaker Pelosi could have easily hardened the United States Capitol in those four days, but Capitol Police did not because of “optics.” This is the unedited footage released by Speaker Mike Johnson archived here, https://cha.house.gov/cha-subcommittee-reading-room-fe781e74-d577-4f64-93cc-fc3a8dd8df18 confirming this video https://twitter.com/iFightForKids/status/1725643695418962192 Indeed took place in the capitol on J6. Quote If you’d have told me nearly 3 years ago when I was just a CEO that Jan. 6 was an inside job, I would’ve said that’s crazy talk. It’s not. There is now clear evidence that there was at the very least entrapment of peaceful protestors, similar to the fake Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping plot & countless other cases. The FBI won’t admit how many undercover officers were in the field on Jan 6, Capitol police on one hand fired rubber bullets & explosives into a peaceful crowd who they then willingly later allowed to enter the Capitol. That doesn’t add up & the actual evidence turns the prior narrative upside down: if the deep state is willing to manufacture an “insurrection” to take down its political opponents, they can do anything. Once you see it, you can’t unsee it. ~Vivek Ramaswamyhttps://twitter.com/RyanMattaMedia/status/1707486441343725600 There is a film coming on 1/1/2024 https://j6truetimeline.com/ J6: A True Timeline Thousands of crowdsourced video files. Hundreds of hours of CCTV footage. Dozens of police officer body cams. One True Timeline. Do you know the whole story of January 6th? Find out what really happened: 01/01/2024 http://J6TrueTimeline.com #J6TrueTimeline It's funny, fact checkers have also called the vaccine safe and effective. At the time people questioned elections, the AI systems in place weren't fast or strong enough to censor in real time. They could only slap a little disclaimer at the bottom enforcing their lies. But as we move in to 2024, that can all be changed. AI systems will reward and punish utilizing the social credit score that companies presently adhere to. Right now, the EU is moving to punish Elonk Musk for supporting free speech. They are threatening to remove the social media platform altogether prior to our upcoming election, if he does not remove independent media from his platform. Here, Vivek Ramaswamy says the real enemy is not Donald Trump or Even Joe Biden... Listen... https://twitter.com/theblaze/status/1732585805128892673 They have undemocratically tried to remove Trump from ballots... And now they are trying to bar people from seeing all the evidence... Quote Special counsel Jack Smith filed a motion Wednesday asking the Washington D.C. court to prevent the jury in his January 6 case against Donald Trump from hearing about evidence related to the January 6 riot. https://www.infowars.com/posts/jack-smith-moves-to-prevent-jury-from-hearing-evidence-about-jan-6-in-his-jan-6-case-against-trump/You cannot make this up. Title: Re: The unfolding events challenging democracy and free elections around the world. Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Dec 28, 2023 07:06 am First before responding to your post above…. I am happy to see your threads and posts about Robert Kennedy Jr. Although he may give the possibility of letting a psychopath get elected because of splitting up the election, which currently is determined mainly by two parties, I do not think that is his intention. Nor do I believe it is yours.
You have your narrative about Jan 6. It is OK. Some of it may be true. However, you would not have to spend all the energy on constructiing it if you, and those there last year, accepted the simple truth that Trump lost Eric. We have gone through that countless times, and more countless times, before I took them all off-all our posts that caused decisiveness, between us. Yours and mine included. My proof he lost and your continuing (I will clarify that remark below) your false narrative. We can go through it again if you’re up for it. There is now even more proof out there than ever before. All the violence on one big lie; Trump won. But he lost by a landslide. All the talk about voting machines that made mistakes; lies. All the talk about choosing false electorals; manipulation. All the evidence showing Donald Trump holding out; still true, an obsessed man desperate to be right. All the evidence supporting an improvised coup at the capital ….. shown by trials of witnesses and those involved have been prosecuted. The people owning voting machines have now sued incredible amounts. Networks that carried the lies like Fox News have payed hundreds of millions behind the scenes before being prosecuted. Trump has 91 charges that are felonies. Let them play out. We will see the results. Now he is just trying to delay them to claim immunity and excuse himself and all those that defend him, regardless if they all continue the lie. He is hoping to be president again to do that. It is 1984 come to life. Doublespeak has come to reality, a lie is made into a truth. The spiritual question is still this; what is truth? In all our discussions. And the spiritual message I continue to broadcast is that Donald Trump is a traitor to this country. Donald Trump continues to lie. He is a psychopathic liar. And he is the cause of all this misinformation. His lies have encouraged you to continue to give energy to his false narrative. Most the people he had even appointed to high positions in the government, except his family, say they could not support his narrative. We can bring them all up again. We can listen to their rebuttal of his lies. We can investigate the voting machines again. We can interview the witnessing people of Jan 6 again. We will come up with the same conclusion. And if you do not, so be it. Nothing will come of good from it. Do you think that I see myself as an authority on the matter? Is anyone really an authority on anything? At some point we have to make decisions. I’ve made mine. And it appears you have made yours. Now we must live with them and the karma they bring with them. I’m ready to face my karma from such decisions, if you are ready to face yours, then what more is there to say? Eric your world is crumbling when it comes to Donald Trump. Yes , that is my opinion. He is a loser. He is a fraud. He is dangerous to this country, and his ignorance and influence; a danger to the world. He must be stopped. And he will not stop on his own. We must stop him, because he is a psychopath. I attempted to start over and forget about all our differences over this. But as long as you continue this false notion that somehow he won, I will continue with the truth. Regardless of how everything unfolded on Jan 6 and who it was supporting the big lie. Donald Trump is the most dangerous psychopathic liar today to the freedom of choice of the people of this nation. If by chance he defeats others in this country next year; He still is the most dangerous man in this country and for democracy, living today in the United States. And his supporters will go to any length to perpetuate his lies. You can spend all your energy supporting his big lie. And we can do this all again as we did before. There are spiritual truths. And those who have a strong intuition of what that truth is must stand forward. We cannot be intimidated and crushed by another Adolph Hitler in this world environment today. For those supporting his big lie by being completely obsessed with defending him… For those who have been made bankrupt, for those in jail for perpetuating his lie. For those who want to be right at all costs. I say this; if you had practiced the truth. If you had developed intuition and discrimination in meditation and spiritual disciplines you would recognize the importance of what I have just said above without going through each little detail that can support his big lie and your personal convictions that he is somehow a righteous and truthful man. There is some evidence that will support any amount of a false narrative. Depending on how people reason. I do not dispute this. Hitler did like his dog and he was from most accounts a vegetarian. But can we say he was in his right mind? There were even good people that supported him not knowing the evil that possessed him. The same be said about the puff adder. He is dangerous and must be reckoned with as long as he crawls in our path and lingers in our home walls. He must be removed and be put in a safe place, where his venom will not be a danger to others. I have come to this life-as I am also aware of some of my last life-for certain purposes.Your recent posts in support of a sociopath have made this even clearer seeing our views shown in relief. ( When I had finished this post I looked up and it was 1:11 AM, a number we are familiar with and it’s significance. ) One of those important purposes is to promote meditation. Eric, I thank you in supporting that purpose. Another is to separate truth from fiction. If you don’t care to support me in that purpose and have a different truth I’m ok with our differences. This too will pass. It just requires patience and the ability to keep our main objectives and goals consistent. So far we have done this. Let us continue to follow dharma and be of service to others; while gaining more wisdom in our own spiritual pursuits. Thank You 😊 🙏 Brother. I appreciate your friendship! Title: Re: The unfolding events challenging democracy and free elections around the world. Post by: guest587 on Dec 28, 2023 03:33 pm I heard this phrase yesterday and thought it was really on point-
"What's happening is, as we all seek the truth, because the truth will set us free- we've all run into each other." I see it as running into people who hold opposing views. Why? Because the truth is all there is In fact I think the same as you with regards to the development of intuition and discernment. It's the only way we'll be able to navigate all the fake news, deep fakes, AI control systems. It's easy to take media clips and make your point, and we even have corrupt court systems with DA's and judges working in a way that cement many false narratives. But we know just because society operates with a particular lease on life, does not make it the correct one. I believe many people who feel J6 a lie, are trusting their intuition. My self included. So it is definitely humorous to me that you'd say these things, while taking the opposite belief. According to you I must stand forward with my strong intuition of the truth- You think my world is crumbling when it comes to Donald Trump, but I think my world is actually opening up to many possibilities and seeing so much good out of what has happened. I see the world waking up, not dying. It's why I can point to other presidential candidates who carry the same energetic capacity as Donald Trump. Not the stuff you're focused on- I am talking about calling out the corruption, naming names, and attempting to fight the shadowy forces that run the world. RFK JR is one such a man, as well as Vivek Ramaswamy. And there will be more- because Donald Trump served as a great awakening for many people in our nation. Like you many believe they should not be intimidated and crushed by an unelected authority attempting to dictate what is the truth. They are not supporting a lie, but they believe the same as you- that you are supporting the lie. Seeing 1111 doesn't necessarily mean your way of thinking is right and mine is wrong. If truth is all there is, it definitely serves as an indicator of deeper contempltation. I see it as communication with Self... And ultimately, Self is all there is. Yes, you're sharing in ways you think you are following your dharma- as are the many others who feel they are following their truth. I am seeing a number prompt now... Does it mean only I am right and you are wrong? I don't think so. Title: Re: The unfolding events challenging democracy and free elections around the world. Post by: guest587 on Dec 28, 2023 07:03 pm First before responding to your post above…. I am happy to see your threads and posts about Robert Kennedy Jr. Although he may give the possibility of letting a psychopath get elected because of splitting up the election, which currently is determined mainly by two parties, I do not think that is his intention. Nor do I believe it is yours. You have your narrative about Jan 6. It is OK. Some of it may be true. However, you would not have to spend all the energy on constructiing it if you, and those there last year, accepted the simple truth that Trump lost Eric. We have gone through that countless times, and more countless times, before I took them all off-all our posts that caused decisiveness, between us. Yours and mine included. My proof he lost and your continuing (I will clarify that remark below) your false narrative. We can go through it again if you’re up for it. There is now even more proof out there than ever before. All the violence on one big lie; Trump won. But he lost by a landslide. All the talk about voting machines that made mistakes; lies. All the talk about choosing false electorals; manipulation. All the evidence showing Donald Trump holding out; still true, an obsessed man desperate to be right. All the evidence supporting an improvised coup at the capital ….. shown by trials of witnesses and those involved have been prosecuted. The people owning voting machines have now sued incredible amounts. Networks that carried the lies like Fox News have payed hundreds of millions behind the scenes before being prosecuted. Trump has 91 charges that are felonies. Let them play out. We will see the results. Now he is just trying to delay them to claim immunity and excuse himself and all those that defend him, regardless if they all continue the lie. He is hoping to be president again to do that. It is 1984 come to life. Doublespeak has come to reality, a lie is made into a truth. The spiritual question is still this; what is truth? In all our discussions. And the spiritual message I continue to broadcast is that Donald Trump is a traitor to this country. Donald Trump continues to lie. He is a psychopathic liar. And he is the cause of all this misinformation. His lies have encouraged you to continue to give energy to his false narrative. Most the people he had even appointed to high positions in the government, except his family, say they could not support his narrative. We can bring them all up again. We can listen to their rebuttal of his lies. We can investigate the voting machines again. We can interview the witnessing people of Jan 6 again. We will come up with the same conclusion. And if you do not, so be it. Nothing will come of good from it. Do you think that I see myself as an authority on the matter? Is anyone really an authority on anything? At some point we have to make decisions. I’ve made mine. And it appears you have made yours. Now we must live with them and the karma they bring with them. I’m ready to face my karma from such decisions, if you are ready to face yours, then what more is there to say? Eric your world is crumbling when it comes to Donald Trump. Yes , that is my opinion. He is a loser. He is a fraud. He is dangerous to this country, and his ignorance and influence; a danger to the world. He must be stopped. And he will not stop on his own. We must stop him, because he is a psychopath. I attempted to start over and forget about all our differences over this. But as long as you continue this false notion that somehow he won, I will continue with the truth. Regardless of how everything unfolded on Jan 6 and who it was supporting the big lie. Donald Trump is the most dangerous psychopathic liar today to the freedom of choice of the people of this nation. If by chance he defeats others in this country next year; He still is the most dangerous man in this country and for democracy, living today in the United States. And his supporters will go to any length to perpetuate his lies. You can spend all your energy supporting his big lie. And we can do this all again as we did before. There are spiritual truths. And those who have a strong intuition of what that truth is must stand forward. We cannot be intimidated and crushed by another Adolph Hitler in this world environment today. For those supporting his big lie by being completely obsessed with defending him… For those who have been made bankrupt, for those in jail for perpetuating his lie. For those who want to be right at all costs. I say this; if you had practiced the truth. If you had developed intuition and discrimination in meditation and spiritual disciplines you would recognize the importance of what I have just said above without going through each little detail that can support his big lie and your personal convictions that he is somehow a righteous and truthful man. There is some evidence that will support any amount of a false narrative. Depending on how people reason. I do not dispute this. Hitler did like his dog and he was from most accounts a vegetarian. But can we say he was in his right mind? There were even good people that supported him not knowing the evil that possessed him. The same be said about the puff adder. He is dangerous and must be reckoned with as long as he crawls in our path and lingers in our home walls. He must be removed and be put in a safe place, where his venom will not be a danger to others. I have come to this life-as I am also aware of some of my last life-for certain purposes.Your recent posts in support of a sociopath have made this even clearer seeing our views shown in relief. ( When I had finished this post I looked up and it was 1:11 AM, a number we are familiar with and it’s significance. ) One of those important purposes is to promote meditation. Eric, I thank you in supporting that purpose. Another is to separate truth from fiction. If you don’t care to support me in that purpose and have a different truth I’m ok with our differences. This too will pass. It just requires patience and the ability to keep our main objectives and goals consistent. So far we have done this. Let us continue to follow dharma and be of service to others; while gaining more wisdom in our own spiritual pursuits. Thank You 😊 🙏 Brother. I appreciate your friendship! Q'uote of the Day February 14th, 2009 https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/2009/0214 " The undifferentiated and unpotentiated infinite Creator has no bias. There is one thing. That one thing is self-understood and self-grasped and is content. However, the infinite Creator, choosing by the first distortion of free will to know Itself, has created a system of densities through which all of its sparks may proceed in order to experience all that can be experienced, to satisfy all desires, and to move through all the learnings of each density. Each of you is a member of a third-density environment at this time…It is because of the opacity of the illusion and its relentless system of opposites that third density works. For third density is about making a choice, a very fundamental choice, of service to self or service to others. It is indeed desirable to increase that bias, attempting more and more to maximize service to others within your life and your thought, so that you may accelerate the rate of your own spiritual evolution. " https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/omtalks/the-daily-q-uote-t1942-s975.html#p30872 Title: Re: The unfolding events challenging democracy and free elections around the world. Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Dec 28, 2023 09:35 pm Q'uote of the Day February 14th, 2009 https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/2009/0214 " The undifferentiated and unpotentiated infinite Creator has no bias. There is one thing. That one thing is self-understood and self-grasped and is content. However, the infinite Creator, choosing by the first distortion of free will to know Itself, has created a system of densities through which all of its sparks may proceed in order to experience all that can be experienced, to satisfy all desires, and to move through all the learnings of each density. Each of you is a member of a third-density environment at this time…It is because of the opacity of the illusion and its relentless system of opposites that third density works. For third density is about making a choice, a very fundamental choice, of service to self or service to others. It is indeed desirable to increase that bias, attempting more and more to maximize service to others within your life and your thought, so that you may accelerate the rate of your own spiritual evolution. " https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/omtalks/the-daily-q-uote-t1942-s975.html#p30872 Thanks Brother Many times ‘I’ look at myself thinking, am ‘I’ really inhabiting this encasement? How am ‘I’ fooled to think it real? And ‘i’ see my SELF looking from the outside at this object with volition that ‘i’ have become. Title: Re: The unfolding events challenging democracy and free elections around the world. Post by: guest587 on Dec 29, 2023 12:54 am Hi Uwe,
I'm sorry if I've upset you. I just wanted to say I do appreciate all your contributions, including the photography you've shared here in our recent past. I definitely have an Ego with biases. Likes/Dislikes, and attitudes towards certain issues that I think are true. I have a serious inquiry here that maybe I've not been able to articulate, and am often matching the feeling of resistance because I am subconsciously trying to understand. I work with a boss who says if Trump wins she will close her store down. That's how volatile the situation is. At the same time, she has employees who will be voting Trump. And there are a many great narratives that people are emotionally reactive towards. It doesn't have to be the drama here in the West. But people are unified in their emotions towards socially constructed narratives. And with the internet to connect us, things seem all the more intense. We don't have to talk politics to talk about this. But I am noticing that it is becoming extremely difficult to navigate the polarized world in the, "my views are right" and "your views are wrong" category. I prefer non-violence. I also don't mean to offend others by thinking and believing in the things I do. I can let something go if I am disturbing the community too. I just want to know how to navigate the storm, because we will all be faced with something similar. I think this is especially true for 2024-2026. The world drama will be knocking at our door, and may even bust it down. In a way, stepping into our biases is a normal and healthy part of fulfilling our desires. I do think we will suffer as long as we fail to recognize God behind everything. So with the quote I've provided above there are some exercises the gentleman recommends. I don't understand exercise 1, but I do resonate with exercise #2- I believe exercise 2 with my entire heart... And yet, how easy do we forget that which we hold most sacred is made manifest even in the people we find so disagreeable? This barrier is a challenge, and one I hope to overcome. In a way, these spiritual pressures and adversities are great opportunities. But I apologize for the headaches and the lone tangents. Wishing you and everyone here a blessed day. Quote Well just have to throw this one in the ring too.. " [10](https://www.lawofone.info/s/10).[14](https://www.lawofone.info/s/10#14) **Questioner:** For general development [of the] reader of this book, could you state some of the practices or ****exercises**** to perform to produce an acceleration toward the Law of One? **Ra:** I am Ra. ****Exercise**** One. This is the most nearly centered and usable within your illusion complex. The moment contains love. That is the lesson/goal of this illusion or density. The ****exercise**** is to consciously seek that love in awareness and understanding distortions. The first attempt is the cornerstone. Upon this choosing rests the remainder of the life-experience of an entity. The second seeking of love within the moment begins the addition. The third seeking powers the second, the fourth powering or doubling the third. As with the previous type [of empowerment, there will be some loss of power due to flaws] within the seeking in the distortion of insincerity. However, the conscious statement of self to self of the desire to seek love is so central an act of will that, as before, the loss of power due to this friction is inconsequential. ****Exercise**** Two. The universe is one being. When a mind/body/spirit complex views another mind/body/spirit complex, see the Creator. This is an helpful ****exercise****. ****Exercise**** Three. Gaze within a mirror. See the Creator. ****Exercise**** Four. Gaze at the creation which lies about the mind/body/spirit complex of each entity. See the Creator. The foundation or prerequisite of these ****exercises**** is a predilection towards what may be called meditation, contemplation, or prayer. With this attitude, these ****exercises**** can be processed. Without it, the data will not sink down into the roots of the tree of mind, thus enabling and ennobling the body and touching the spirit." Title: Re: The unfolding events challenging democracy and free elections around the world. Post by: guest587 on Dec 29, 2023 03:11 am Thank you. _^_ Angelic appreciation.
Title: Re: The unfolding events challenging democracy and free elections around the world. Post by: guest587 on Dec 29, 2023 05:58 am Wow, no wonder Swami Vidyadhishananda calls Baba his Guru. What a beautiful light I feel coming from this man. He is beaming with innocence, and yet, sharing great wisdom.
Title: Re: The unfolding events challenging democracy and free elections around the world. Post by: guest587 on Jan 09, 2024 05:45 am There is a film coming on 1/1/2024 https://j6truetimeline.com/ J6: A True Timeline Thousands of crowdsourced video files. Hundreds of hours of CCTV footage. Dozens of police officer body cams. One True Timeline. Do you know the whole story of January 6th? Find out what really happened: 01/01/2024 http://J6TrueTimeline.com #J6TrueTimeline https://open.ink/collections/j6 This is probably the most unbiased historical account you'll see to date concerning the events that transpired 1/6/2020. It's hours of footage from peoples cell phones, security camera, etc. to help contextualize the events as they occurred. No earlier presentation of this fated day has been made as clear as what you will see in this film. Title: Re: The unfolding events challenging democracy and free elections around the world. Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Jan 09, 2024 06:34 am In the absence of mountains in Washington D.C. were these people mountain climbing up the capital walls for exercise?
Dramatic photo shows Trump supporters scaling Capitol wall. As the rioters on Capitol Hill continue to overwhelm authorities, this photo will be one for the history books. https://www.chron.com/news/nation-world/article/photo-capitol-lockdown-trump-supporter-riot-dc-15850767.php [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: The unfolding events challenging democracy and free elections around the world. Post by: guest587 on Jan 09, 2024 07:29 am Steve, I hope you watched the film. It gave me sympathies for all parties. It is truly a heartbreaking moment and makes me nervous to protest anything. Why? Because tribalism. J6 was one of the largest protest in America's 21st century. And I can see, after watching this film, a lack of professionalism by the police- a diminished and emotional intelligence by the protestors, and these two things brought about a very unfortunate tale. The behaviors are appalling. I see as well, President Trump hadn't a clue at the exact moment the capitol was breached. Neither did the people inside the house. And then, to see Ashli Babbit die on film. I cried. I think it was her death that is the reason some of the police officers took a softened approach and allowed the protestors already inside the building free roam. No one wanted anyone to die.
I can see how the persecution of the people caught inside the capitol had an emotional weight behind it by the ones seeking justice. I don't think either side of the story, as its been presented to the people, is the right one. Watching this film humanizes everything, and you realize there are no winners. The image of people scaling the wall- there was a man climbing up the stairs by the time the breach happened. Then, he was made blind by tear gas. He tried to go back down the way he came. A police officer ended up shoving him off causing him to fall 25 feet before crashing onto the ground. Yes, J6 will be a moment in history- it's a rather scary moment for sure. I only wish it did not escalate, and I question the provocateurs caught on film- and why the police tear gassed themselves multiple times(after being instructed by fellow officers not to deploy the gas) leaving ample opportunity for further advancement on the capitol? Again, when you watch the film- you realize we're all imperfect. Aside from Ray Epps who said, "I orchestrated it"(as a text message to his nephew) I think the police gassing themselves could be just dumb luck. I am grateful I didn't go, because I was feeling encouraged to protest. But that level of tribalism is not something that I find appealing at all. Sometimes I think our collective intelligence as a nation has been reduced since our inception. Though we have freedom, we have responsibility in how we exert our freedom. It is entirely possible to protest without being violent. Then again, when you watch the film, you do see how the crowd was agitated and how Ray Epps encouraged the breach(literally at the front line of every removal of warning signs and fence barriacades). Considering emotions were high and intelligence was low, I understand how things escalated the way they did. https://gab.com/TuckerCarlsonTweets/posts/111722933351901652 I can see how both sides of the story, prior to this film, have been presented in order to promote a particular view and advance personal agenda. But the reality is much simpler than what we've been told. (In my opinion) Title: Re: The unfolding events challenging democracy and free elections around the world. Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Jan 09, 2024 03:22 pm I most likely will look at your video. Simply because you hope I will. Although I’ll remind you that I watched many of the videos and read many of the articles you provided, when the election results came in 2020 and facts are facts. Biden won. I think that reality of the situation was very simple also. We had a presidential election. And Biden won by a landslide also by countless electoral votes. We had election four years prior. I had no thoughts of protesting the results. Simple; Trump won that election. What we had after Biden won was an insurrection. What we had when Trump won is a lot of sad people. But the recognition that is how elections in a democracy work. You will not satisfy everyone. Although MAGA people seem to think we’d be better off without a democracy. Many countries have made that decision and now we see those countries full of political prisoners in their jails and poisoning as well as murder for those who disagree.
At times there are people who find my comments about Trump ‘obsessed’ or any number of other criticisms. And there were people who thought George Washington was obsessed about freeing us from King George and Lincoln was obsessed about freeing slaves. Or that Jesus was ‘obsessed’ with being a king. Or that Gandhi was obsessed about freeing India from the British. My reply is that there are certain truths worth remembering and standing up for, and that has always been seen in most every spiritual path in history. Title: Re: The unfolding events challenging democracy and free elections around the world. Post by: guest587 on Jan 09, 2024 04:47 pm I suspect the film will only strengthen your views. My personal and unpopular opinion? Trump is good karma. How so? Well-
If where we find ourselves is a reflection of our, 'collective consciousness' or a- 'sign of the times' and now is all there is- I have a very opportunistic lens with reality. Do I believe President Trump? That's not the question that matters. I believe Donald Trump believes Donald Trump. So he is unwittingly one of the most controversial figures of our time. In so doing, he is bringing hundreds of thousands of people closer to God. Whether you are for, or against. Whether you are peaceful or hateful. The path you tread is bringing you closer in your Faith- and ultimately, Donald Trump is not the ultimate picture. The ultimate picture is what you discover in this life as a special path between you and God. ---- As for the video- it has answered some of my questions, and continues to leave questions unanswered. I think Twitter/Facebook putting blue labels under the presidents post(before the election was certified) and censoring his video minutes after it was released highly suspicious. That level of big-tech interference is one that often gets lost as something warranting consideration. Ultimately- the video has given me sympathies for both sides of the story. The story has been presented as two sides of a coin. And whatever side one finds themselves favoring, I believe both have been dramatized for personal gain. Again, I believe the matter is very simple. And I do not rule out election interference, FBI involvement and entrapment. There were plenty of anomalies that may just mean we are ignorant of how things work as a public, but these issues were needing attention nonetheless. Instead of properly addressing, the entire world is moving from hyper polarized views, from limited intelligence, from emotional reactions- and that's another part of the BIG PICTURE worthy of consideration. Title: Re: The unfolding events challenging democracy and free elections around the world. Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Jan 09, 2024 05:10 pm I suspect the film will only strengthen your views. My personal and unpopular opinion? Trump is good karma. How so? Well- If where we find ourselves is a reflection of our, 'collective consciousness' or a- 'sign of the times' and now is all there is- I have a very opportunistic lens with reality. Do I believe President Trump? That's not the question that matters. I believe Donald Trump believes Donald Trump. So he is unwittingly one of the most controversial figures of our time. In so doing, he is bringing hundreds of thousands of people closer to God. Whether you are for, or against. Whether you are peaceful or hateful. The path you tread is bringing you closer in your Faith- and ultimately, Donald Trump is not the ultimate picture. The ultimate picture is what you discover in this life as a special path between you and Eric you must be kidding. Since when does someone believe in their false notions of themselves does it make it convincing or right for that matter? Putin believed it right to invade Ukraine. Jung Un believes it right to protect himself from the aggression of other countries. And both leaders believe it right to imprison torture and murder those who disagree. Also Hitler believed it right that he was destined to be a world leader. And there are many religious leaders who believe they are right in their attempt to seize power from others; Bin Ladin being only one of the most recent. We had no choice but to stop their ignorance and insolence. Fuhrer Trump is no different. And actually he has done more to destroy our beliefs in God and country. His egotistical views have only led to more resentment, resistance and confusion which is the ‘hallmark’ of demonic actions. Let us also look at a more familiar recent name from the Christian Religion. Jim Jones made claims of his own divinity. As a child, Jones developed an affinity for Pentecostalism and a desire to preach. Jones became progressively more controlling of his followers in Peoples Temple, which at its peak had over 3,000 members. Jones's followers engaged in a communal lifestyle. Like Trump, Jones developed connections with prominent politicians. Representative Leo Ryan led a delegation to his commune in November of 1978 to investigate report of the abuse and allegations that he forced members to stay at the commune. While boarding a return flight with some former Temple members who wished to leave, Ryan and four others were murdered by gunmen from Jonestown. Jones then ordered a mass murder-suicide that claimed the lives of 909 commune members, 304 of them children; almost all of the members died by drinking Flavor Aid laced with cyanide. Fuhrer Trump is similar to some of the personalities I have listed above. He is operating a cult of personality that ( in my opinion ) is detrimental to himself and his followers. This ‘cult’ is all about Donald Trump and not about the preservation of free elections and democracy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jones Title: Re: The unfolding events challenging democracy and free elections around the world. Post by: guest587 on Jan 09, 2024 07:22 pm Hi Steve :)
Nope, not kidding. This is the current revelation and conclusion I have come to. Whether you agree or disagree with Trump, you are being drawn closer to your personal faith thanks to his incarnation. So it would seem! Cheers friend. Title: Re: The unfolding events challenging democracy and free elections around the world. Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Jan 10, 2024 10:24 pm Quote from Eric;
If you’d have told me nearly 3 years ago when I was just a CEO that Jan. 6 was an inside job, I would’ve said that’s crazy talk. It’s not. There is now clear evidence that there was at the very least entrapment of peaceful protestors, similar to the fake Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping plot & countless other cases. The FBI won’t admit how many undercover officers were in the field on Jan 6, Capitol police on one hand fired rubber bullets & explosives into a peaceful crowd who they then willingly later allowed to enter the Capitol. That doesn’t add up & the actual evidence turns the prior narrative upside down: if the deep state is willing to manufacture an “insurrection” to take down its political opponents, they can do anything. Once you see it, you can’t unsee it. ~Vivek Ramaswamy This guy is nuts. There was one police officer who died the next day. The only reason other police let the traitors in the building was because the violence was so bad that they would have been beaten with batons, clubs and flagpoles themselves as the mob busted windows, broke down barricades and shoved there way in. Four police officers committed suicide. Four suicides: Four other police officers committed suicide in the days and months after the riot. The first was U.S. Capitol Police Officer Howard Liebengood, 51, who had been guarding the Capitol for 15 years and was on duty at the Capitol on Jan. 6. He took his own life three days after the riots. https://www.factcheck.org/2021/11/how-many-died-as-a-result-of-capitol-riot/ Title: Re: The unfolding events challenging democracy and free elections around the world. Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Jan 10, 2024 11:39 pm Quote from Eric; If you’d have told me nearly 3 years ago when I was just a CEO that Jan. 6 was an inside job, I would’ve said that’s crazy talk. It’s not. There is now clear evidence that there was at the very least entrapment of peaceful protestors, similar to the fake Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping plot & countless other cases. The FBI won’t admit how many undercover officers were in the field on Jan 6, Capitol police on one hand fired rubber bullets & explosives into a peaceful crowd who they then willingly later allowed to enter the Capitol. That doesn’t add up & the actual evidence turns the prior narrative upside down: if the deep state is willing to manufacture an “insurrection” to take down its political opponents, they can do anything. Once you see it, you can’t unsee it. ~Vivek Ramaswamy This guy is nuts. There was one police officer who died the next day. The only reason other police let the traitors in the building was because the violence was so bad that they would have been beaten with batons, clubs and flagpoles themselves as the mob busted windows, broke down barricades and shoved there way in. Four police officers committed suicide. Four suicides: Four other police officers committed suicide in the days and months after the riot. The first was U.S. Capitol Police Officer Howard Liebengood, 51, who had been guarding the Capitol for 15 years and was on duty at the Capitol on Jan. 6. He took his own life three days after the riots. https://www.factcheck.org/2021/11/how-many-died-as-a-result-of-capitol-riot/ More evidence of the gravity and senseless violent behavior of those attempting to cause more government overthrow and attempts to destroy democracy, and the stupidity of Vivek Ramaswamy’s remarks. https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/15/politics/militia-members-sentenced-whitmer-kidnapping-plot/index.html Three men were sentenced Thursday for providing material support for a terrorist act and two other state-level charges related to the 2020 plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, according to a statement from the Michigan attorney general’s office. Pete Musico, Joseph Morrison and Paul Bellar, who prosecutors said are members of a militia group known as the “Wolverine Watchmen,” were all sentenced on charges of gang participation, support of a terrorist act, and carrying or possessing a firearm during the commission of a felony, according to the Michigan attorney general’s office. Musico and Bellar must serve a minimum of 12 years and seven years, respectively. The alleged “commander” of the group, Morrison, who, according to affidavits filed with the attorney general’s office, went by the online moniker “Boogaloo Bunyan” online, must serve a minimum of 11 years. “The defendants’ ultimate goals were to kill police and elected officials and kidnap the Governor of Michigan. These extraordinarily violent ends, coupled with the unequivocal conviction from the jury, demand the maximum sentence,” Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said in a statement. They faced a maximum of 20 years for providing material support for terrorist acts, 20 years for gang membership and two years for the firearm charge. A jury found the men guilty in October, CNN previously reported. Whitmer called the sentencing of Musico, Morrison and Bellar a “powerful signal” in a video statement played in court Thursday. “Unfortunately, these defendants have not accepted responsibility for their actions,” Whitmer said in her nearly three-and-a-half minute victim impact statement. “If you want my advice about what to do with men like this, it’s simple: Impose a sentence that meets the gravity of the damage they have done to our democracy.” Whitmer said she now scans crowds for possible threats and minimizes how much personal information she shares to avoid possibly endangering a loved one, staff member, or member of her security detail. Title: Re: The unfolding events challenging democracy and free elections around the world. Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Jan 11, 2024 01:54 am Did you read my post Steve? And then you have the nerve to talk about Gretchen Whitmer?! Wasn't it the CIA who orchestrated her kidnapping?! Speaking of Auspicious and Important Occasions, you should check your information sources, me thinks. The most famous fact-checkers are only there to help you believe in the political mainstream, while lying to us blatantly and often. "I don't know what to say about it When all you ears have turned away But now's the time to look and look again at what you see Is that the way it ought to stay?" On the contrary, I believe you need to read my post; I live in Michigan and followed the kidnapping attempt by these men and i lived in California for about a decade where some one broke into the private residence of Palosi’s husband and in her absence hit her husband over the head with a hammer 🔨 and you may or may not know that a insurrectionists sat proudly in her office chair, where he broke in, with his legs spread out. The problem with Fuhrer Trump is that he has inspired a generation of violence and insurrectionists which continue to this day. I’m not sure why you have this feeling you have to take our country, here in the United Clones, down UWE, we are both brothers here, all this has been rehashed so many times it is tiring. But people want to believe in a cult of personality like they did in Jim Jones here in the states, and Adolph Hitler like they did in your country( I pray for you and your country). I am afraid you just don’t see the long term effects of such a violent man that is also bent on vengeance to his rivals when/if he gets back in office. And he has coerced the Republican Secretary of State to count the votes and find another 11,000 votes so he could win in Georgia, which was recounted three times. And showed he lost by over 11,000 votes. Still he rails on about his winning the election in 2020 which started this whole insurrection in Washington in the first place. We would have had no issues in Washington if it were not for this false claim and consequently violence, false conspiracy and coercion in other states since then. Donald Trump is a true sociopath. He now spouts off about how he will seek revenge on his opponents which is contrary to any spiritual approach to life….Below is a picture of one of his MAGA insurrectionists who broke and entered the speaker of the house’s office room… https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/jan-6-rioter-put-feet-desk-pelosi-office-sentenced-45-years-prison-rcna85848 https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/11/05/trump-revenge-second-term/ [attachment deleted by admin] Title: Re: The unfolding events challenging democracy and free elections around the world. Post by: guest587 on Jan 11, 2024 03:52 am It's like the saying, "you can bring a horse to water, you just can't make him drink."
And ironically everyone thinks they're the person bringing the other to the water. Hahaha. Title: Re: The unfolding events challenging democracy and free elections around the world. Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Jan 11, 2024 10:11 am Hi Steve :) Nope, not kidding. This is the current revelation and conclusion I have come to. Whether you agree or disagree with Trump, you are being drawn closer to your personal faith thanks to his incarnation. So it would seem! Cheers friend. What is happening is that I’ve actually been drawn away from my faith, because of his incarnation, because I find myself drawn into futile conversations like this one, instead of meditation and spiritual subjects. I find your conclusion unfounded and only leading to more conflict, which is not good for the faith of any of us here. I am much more inspired to be drawn more to my faith by are friendship, and cordial conversations and interactions. Love and friendship are the greatest drawing power, not those who plant the seeds of dissent and hatred as this man continues to do in his need to seek revenge on his opponents. It's like the saying, "you can bring a horse to water, you just can't make him drink." And ironically everyone thinks they're the person bringing the other to the water. Hahaha. The horse has drunk but there was acid in the water. Presumably from a right wing governor of Michigan who attempted to take a short cut in the economic distribution of pure water to a city like Jackson here in Michigan that poisoned its residents and horses because of opportunistic expediency. And despite any claim of election compromise, again I will remind you that there was a recount in Georgia alone three separate times. Any person still questioning election counts after a Republican Secretary of State himself has disclosed that there is no need to authorize another election recount after such a large margin of loss in multiple states and in Georgia itself-which had a possible outcome of some mistakes-should begin to see the light that we have not been using horses for election returns since the 1900’s. And that by the way was the main concern of the speaker UWE provided here. The other one which involved Covid you (Eric) already admitted ‘mistakes’ that Fuhrer Trump made in his assessment of how to handle the situation. The last concern, which the interview provided was not given any clear evidence by the man attempting to do so but rather he said evidence was being compiled. We will have to wait about that and at this point we still see it still not have anything to do with the election results or Covid. It has everything to do with government agencies such as the FBI and the CIA being involved in ‘monitoring’ many movements and activities in this country. Which I myself have been concerned about since the murders of the Kennedy’s. And as you know Eric and Uwe, also the concealed and redacted information hiding about UFO’s which may involve groups of ‘shadow’ people beyond even the activities of such agencies as the CIA and the FBI. Beyond that I would also like to make another point here. There are contingencies at this site who continue to support a cult like following for Fuhrer Trump and appear to like to keep my time tied up in keeping this site remaining open to anyone’s views. That is, without making this site look like a right wing conspiratorial site favoring personality cults for criminal activity seen in many if not most of the behaviors of a thug like Fuhrer Trump. It would be more acceptable if I were to do so without having to be profiled as a person obsessed about about a maniacal cult hero which is not as true as the fact that I’m seriously concerned about democracy which is a governmental form that has promoted open communication here and abroad. This type of government avoids the pit falls of despotic forms of government as we see happening in China today, that limit and prevent as well as torture people who are engaged in meditation activities. Which we have seen Fuhrer Trump glorify its leaders, and attempt to implement their forms of cult leadership in our country and more countries in the world. Title: Re: The unfolding events challenging democracy and free elections around the world. Post by: guest587 on Jan 11, 2024 03:29 pm Hi Steve :) Nope, not kidding. This is the current revelation and conclusion I have come to. Whether you agree or disagree with Trump, you are being drawn closer to your personal faith thanks to his incarnation. So it would seem! Cheers friend. What is happening is that I’ve actually been drawn away from my faith, because of his incarnation, because I find myself drawn into futile conversations like this one, instead of meditation and spiritual subjects. Highly doubtful Steve- clearly there's a lesson to learn. All is well and in accordance to divine plan. Maybe one day you won't feel a victim of your own behavior either. Personal opinion? You like to debate. So you disagree with what I say? So be it. I'm not stopping you from practicing the things you want or believe in. I've seen you blame others for your misery. This is not a practice I agree with. You want to talk politics but when the conversation doesn't align with your opinions suddenly you've invested too much and can't do the things you want to. Do you feel the need to control the views allowed on this site? It seems you've created quite a conundrum for yourself. The answer is very simple. Agree to disagree, and continue to focus on the things that matter to you. Your fears of this website being a "right wing political conspiracy" site. This is your anxiety. Let people choose for themselves. The title is spiritualportal. Maybe it's time to take a break and find some threads that actually interest you. Title: Re: The unfolding events challenging democracy and free elections around the world. Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Jan 11, 2024 04:06 pm Hi Steve :) Nope, not kidding. This is the current revelation and conclusion I have come to. Whether you agree or disagree with Trump, you are being drawn closer to your personal faith thanks to his incarnation. So it would seem! Cheers friend. What is happening is that I’ve actually been drawn away from my faith, because of his incarnation, because I find myself drawn into futile conversations like this one, instead of meditation and spiritual subjects. Highly doubtful Steve- clearly there's a lesson to learn. All is well and in accordance to divine plan. Maybe one day you won't feel a victim of your own behavior either. Personal opinion? You like to debate. So you disagree with what I say? So be it. I'm not stopping you from practicing the things you want or believe in. I've seen you blame others for your misery. This is not a practice I agree with. You want to talk politics but when the conversation doesn't align with your opinions suddenly you've invested too much and can't do the things you want to. Do you feel the need to control the views allowed on this site? It seems you've created quite a conundrum for yourself. The answer is very simple. Agree to disagree, and continue to focus on the things that matter to you. Your fears of this website being a "right wing political conspiracy" site. This is your anxiety. Let people choose for themselves. The title is spiritualportal. Maybe it's time to take a break and find some threads that actually interest you. Eric I read your post above and find it fascinating how your mind works. I leave you with your opinions on the matter presently. At this time I do not know that it would serve a meaningful purpose to answer your questions above, I will when and if I feel it does. At this time your questions seem somewhat accusative so I find no need to engage in them or debate them. But seeing that our friendship remains, I would like to invest my time in our friendship which I treasure as well as the friendship I have with others at this site. Namaste 🙏 |