The unfolding events challenging democracy and free elections around the world.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Quote from Eric;

If you’d have told me nearly 3 years ago when I was just a CEO that Jan. 6 was an inside job, I would’ve said that’s crazy talk. It’s not. There is now clear evidence that there was at the very least entrapment of peaceful protestors, similar to the fake Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping plot & countless other cases. The FBI won’t admit how many undercover officers were in the field on Jan 6, Capitol police on one hand fired rubber bullets & explosives into a peaceful crowd who they then willingly later allowed to enter the Capitol. That doesn’t add up & the actual evidence turns the prior narrative upside down: if the deep state is willing to manufacture an “insurrection” to take down its political opponents, they can do anything. Once you see it, you can’t unsee it.
~Vivek Ramaswamy


This guy is nuts. There was one police officer who died the next day. The only reason other police let the traitors in the building was because the violence was so bad that they would have been beaten with batons, clubs and flagpoles themselves as the mob busted windows, broke down barricades and shoved there way in.

Four police officers committed suicide. Four suicides: Four other police officers committed suicide in the days and months after the riot.

The first was U.S. Capitol Police Officer Howard Liebengood, 51, who had been guarding the Capitol for 15 years and was on duty at the Capitol on Jan. 6. He took his own life three days after the riots.

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/11/how-many-died-as-a-result-of-capitol-riot/

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Quote from Eric;

If you’d have told me nearly 3 years ago when I was just a CEO that Jan. 6 was an inside job, I would’ve said that’s crazy talk. It’s not. There is now clear evidence that there was at the very least entrapment of peaceful protestors, similar to the fake Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping plot & countless other cases. The FBI won’t admit how many undercover officers were in the field on Jan 6, Capitol police on one hand fired rubber bullets & explosives into a peaceful crowd who they then willingly later allowed to enter the Capitol. That doesn’t add up & the actual evidence turns the prior narrative upside down: if the deep state is willing to manufacture an “insurrection” to take down its political opponents, they can do anything. Once you see it, you can’t unsee it.
~Vivek Ramaswamy


This guy is nuts. There was one police officer who died the next day. The only reason other police let the traitors in the building was because the violence was so bad that they would have been beaten with batons, clubs and flagpoles themselves as the mob busted windows, broke down barricades and shoved there way in.

Four police officers committed suicide. Four suicides: Four other police officers committed suicide in the days and months after the riot.

The first was U.S. Capitol Police Officer Howard Liebengood, 51, who had been guarding the Capitol for 15 years and was on duty at the Capitol on Jan. 6. He took his own life three days after the riots.

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/11/how-many-died-as-a-result-of-capitol-riot/

More evidence of the gravity and senseless violent behavior of those attempting to cause more government overthrow and attempts to destroy democracy, and the stupidity of Vivek Ramaswamy’s remarks.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/15/politics/militia-members-sentenced-whitmer-kidnapping-plot/index.html

Three men were sentenced Thursday for providing material support for a terrorist act and two other state-level charges related to the 2020 plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, according to a statement from the Michigan attorney general’s office.

Pete Musico, Joseph Morrison and Paul Bellar, who prosecutors said are members of a militia group known as the “Wolverine Watchmen,” were all sentenced on charges of gang participation, support of a terrorist act, and carrying or possessing a firearm during the commission of a felony, according to the Michigan attorney general’s office. Musico and Bellar must serve a minimum of 12 years and seven years, respectively. The alleged “commander” of the group, Morrison, who, according to affidavits filed with the attorney general’s office, went by the online moniker “Boogaloo Bunyan” online, must serve a minimum of 11 years.


“The defendants’ ultimate goals were to kill police and elected officials and kidnap the Governor of Michigan. These extraordinarily violent ends, coupled with the unequivocal conviction from the jury, demand the maximum sentence,” Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said in a statement.

They faced a maximum of 20 years for providing material support for terrorist acts, 20 years for gang membership and two years for the firearm charge.

A jury found the men guilty in October, CNN previously reported.

Whitmer called the sentencing of Musico, Morrison and Bellar a “powerful signal” in a video statement played in court Thursday.

“Unfortunately, these defendants have not accepted responsibility for their actions,” Whitmer said in her nearly three-and-a-half minute victim impact statement. “If you want my advice about what to do with men like this, it’s simple: Impose a sentence that meets the gravity of the damage they have done to our democracy.”

Whitmer said she now scans crowds for possible threats and minimizes how much personal information she shares to avoid possibly endangering a loved one, staff member, or member of her security detail.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Did you read my post Steve? And then you have the nerve to talk about Gretchen Whitmer?! Wasn't it the CIA who orchestrated her kidnapping?!

Speaking of Auspicious and Important Occasions, you should check your information sources, me thinks. The most famous fact-checkers are only there to help you believe in the political mainstream, while lying to us blatantly and often.


"I don't know what to say about it
When all you ears have turned away
But now's the time to look and look again at what you see
Is that the way it ought to stay?"

On the contrary, I believe you need to read my post; I live in Michigan and followed the kidnapping attempt by these men and i lived in California for about a decade where some one broke into the private residence of Palosi’s husband and in her absence hit her husband over the head with a hammer 🔨 and you may or may not know that a insurrectionists sat proudly in her office chair, where he broke in, with his legs spread out.

The problem with Fuhrer Trump is that he has inspired a generation of violence and insurrectionists which continue to this day. I’m not sure why you have this feeling you have to take our country, here in the United Clones, down UWE, we are both brothers here, all this has been rehashed so many times it is tiring. But people want to believe in a cult of personality like they did in Jim Jones here in the states, and Adolph Hitler like they did in your country( I pray for you and your country). I am afraid you just don’t see the long term effects of such a violent man that is also bent on vengeance to his rivals when/if he gets back in office. And he has coerced the Republican Secretary of State to count the votes and find another 11,000 votes so he could win in Georgia, which was recounted three times. And showed he lost by over 11,000 votes. Still he rails on about his winning the election in 2020 which started this whole insurrection in Washington in the first place. We would have had no issues in Washington if it were not for this false claim and consequently violence, false conspiracy and coercion in other states since then. Donald Trump is a true sociopath.

He now spouts off about how he will seek revenge on his opponents which is contrary to any spiritual approach to life….Below is a picture of one of his MAGA insurrectionists who broke and entered the speaker of the house’s office room…

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/jan-6-rioter-put-feet-desk-pelosi-office-sentenced-45-years-prison-rcna85848

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/11/05/trump-revenge-second-term/



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[guest587]

It's like the saying, "you can bring a horse to water, you just can't make him drink."

And ironically everyone thinks they're the person bringing the other to the water. Hahaha.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Hi Steve 

Nope, not kidding. This is the current revelation and conclusion I have come to. Whether you agree or disagree with Trump, you are being drawn closer to your personal faith thanks to his incarnation.

So it would seem!

Cheers friend.

What is happening is that I’ve actually been drawn away from my faith, because of his incarnation, because I find myself drawn into futile conversations like this one, instead of meditation and spiritual subjects. I find your conclusion unfounded and only leading to more conflict, which is not good for the faith of any of us here. I am much more inspired to be drawn more to my faith by are friendship, and cordial conversations and interactions.

Love and friendship are the greatest drawing power, not those who plant the seeds of dissent and hatred as this man continues to do in his need to seek revenge on his opponents.

It's like the saying, "you can bring a horse to water, you just can't make him drink."

And ironically everyone thinks they're the person bringing the other to the water. Hahaha.

The horse has drunk but there was acid in the water. Presumably from a right wing governor of Michigan who attempted to take a short cut in the economic distribution of pure water to a city like Jackson here in Michigan that poisoned its residents and horses because of opportunistic expediency. And despite any claim of election compromise, again I will remind you that there was a recount in Georgia alone three separate times. Any person still questioning election counts after a Republican Secretary of State himself has disclosed that there is no need to authorize another election recount after such a large margin of loss in multiple states and in Georgia itself-which had a possible outcome of some mistakes-should begin to see the light that we have not been using horses for election returns since the 1900’s. And that by the way was the main concern of the speaker UWE provided here. The other one which involved Covid you (Eric) already admitted ‘mistakes’ that Fuhrer Trump made in his assessment of how to handle the situation.

The last concern, which the interview provided was not given any clear evidence by the man attempting to do so but rather he said evidence was being compiled. We will have to wait about that and at this point we still see it still not have anything to do with the election results or Covid. It has everything to do with government agencies such as the FBI and the CIA being involved in ‘monitoring’ many movements and activities in this country. Which I myself have been concerned about since the murders of the Kennedy’s. And as you know Eric and Uwe, also the concealed and redacted information hiding about UFO’s which may involve groups of ‘shadow’ people beyond even the activities of such agencies as the CIA and the FBI.

Beyond that I would also like to make another point here. There are contingencies at this site who continue to support a cult like following for Fuhrer Trump and appear to like to keep my time tied up in keeping this site remaining open to anyone’s views. That is, without making this site look like a right wing conspiratorial site favoring personality cults for criminal activity seen in many if not most of the behaviors of a thug like Fuhrer Trump. It would be more acceptable if I were to do so without having to be profiled as a person obsessed about about a maniacal cult hero which is not as true as the fact that I’m seriously concerned about democracy which is a governmental form that has promoted open communication here and abroad. This type of government avoids the pit falls of despotic forms of government as we see happening in China today, that limit and prevent as well as torture people who are engaged in meditation activities. Which we have seen Fuhrer Trump glorify its leaders, and attempt to implement their forms of cult leadership in our country and more countries in the world.

[guest587]

Hi Steve 

Nope, not kidding. This is the current revelation and conclusion I have come to. Whether you agree or disagree with Trump, you are being drawn closer to your personal faith thanks to his incarnation.

So it would seem!

Cheers friend.

What is happening is that I’ve actually been drawn away from my faith, because of his incarnation, because I find myself drawn into futile conversations like this one, instead of meditation and spiritual subjects.

Highly doubtful Steve- clearly there's a lesson to learn. All is well and in accordance to divine plan. Maybe one day you won't feel a victim of your own behavior either. Personal opinion? You like to debate. So you disagree with what I say? So be it. I'm not stopping you from practicing the things you want or believe in. I've seen you blame others for your misery. This is not a practice I agree with.

You want to talk politics but when the conversation doesn't align with your opinions suddenly you've invested too much and can't do the things you want to.

Do you feel the need to control the views allowed on this site? It seems you've created quite a conundrum for yourself. The answer is very simple. Agree to disagree, and continue to focus on the things that matter to you.

Your fears of this website being a "right wing political conspiracy" site. This is your anxiety. Let people choose for themselves. The title is spiritualportal. Maybe it's time to take a break and find some threads that actually interest you.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Hi Steve 

Nope, not kidding. This is the current revelation and conclusion I have come to. Whether you agree or disagree with Trump, you are being drawn closer to your personal faith thanks to his incarnation.

So it would seem!

Cheers friend.

What is happening is that I’ve actually been drawn away from my faith, because of his incarnation, because I find myself drawn into futile conversations like this one, instead of meditation and spiritual subjects.

Highly doubtful Steve- clearly there's a lesson to learn. All is well and in accordance to divine plan. Maybe one day you won't feel a victim of your own behavior either. Personal opinion? You like to debate. So you disagree with what I say? So be it. I'm not stopping you from practicing the things you want or believe in. I've seen you blame others for your misery. This is not a practice I agree with.

You want to talk politics but when the conversation doesn't align with your opinions suddenly you've invested too much and can't do the things you want to.

Do you feel the need to control the views allowed on this site? It seems you've created quite a conundrum for yourself. The answer is very simple. Agree to disagree, and continue to focus on the things that matter to you.

Your fears of this website being a "right wing political conspiracy" site. This is your anxiety. Let people choose for themselves. The title is spiritualportal. Maybe it's time to take a break and find some threads that actually interest you.

Eric I read your post above and find it fascinating how your mind works. I leave you with your opinions on the matter presently. At this time I do not know that it would serve a meaningful purpose to answer your questions above, I will when and if I feel it does. At this time your questions seem somewhat accusative so I find no need to engage in them or debate them. But seeing that our friendship remains, I would like to invest my time in our friendship which I treasure as well as the friendship I have with others at this site.

Namaste 🙏