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Title: Soulmates or Soulstars?
Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Oct 04, 2009 11:15 am
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Once Upon a Memory

Once upon a memory wishes came true
Stars danced in the moonlite
i danced and dreamed with you
woke and heard a song
that stirred our soul along
a path still unknown
a story still untold
majic days...timeless days

all along the boardwalk
passion stirred the heat
thoughts rolled out in thunder
in unrelenting beat

Majic days...Timeless days

Diamond dream we were on a river
Watching the Sun shimmer on the shore
We could smell the leaves burn
as they fell; yellow, red and orange

all along the boardwalk
passion stirs the heat
thoughts roll out like thunder
in unrelenting beat

Majic days...Timeless days


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Title: Re: A Song for Fall; Once Upon a Memory...Majic Days
Post by: Charmed*I'msure on Oct 07, 2009 02:38 am
Steve, Enchanting magik in your songwriting and in your music!

Charmed*I'msure


Title: Soulmates or Soulstars?
Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Nov 02, 2009 05:55 pm
Steve, Enchanting magik in your songwriting and in your music!

Charmed*I'msure
Thank You Charmed. i am inspired by mother nature and the various 'soul stars' that have come into my life. Here i am not using the word 'soul-mate' but rather a term that Paramahansa Yogananda used to describe those special people who come into our lives who are bright stars from the past who we work with. This "true friendship unites two souls so completely that they reflect the unity of Spirit and its divine qualities." Sometimes we work for incarnations towards this goal with others. There is an important SRF lesson on this entitled 'Friendship'. i think it is wonderful when we meet someone else who is truly helping us and we are helping them spiritually. This relationship goes beyond using others and filling the void as in for instance: endless hours on the cell phone or internet without having significant contact.

Steve


Title: Re: Soulmates or Soulstars?
Post by: memory on Nov 04, 2009 04:31 am
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This "true friendship unites two souls so completely that they reflect the unity of Spirit and its divine qualities." Sometimes we work for incarnations towards this goal with others. There is an important SRF lesson on this entitled 'Friendship'. i think it is wonderful when we meet someone else who is truly helping us and we are helping them spiritually. This relationship goes beyond using others and filling the void as in for instance: endless hours on the cell phone or internet without having significant contact.

Beautiful Steve, and so true...

I have to post my favorite that I think of when I think of soul mates, soul stars, or twin souls... IDF _()_

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Title: Re: Soulmates or Soulstars?
Post by: Katze on Nov 04, 2009 07:16 pm
Very beautiful song Steve, mere words just can't quite describe it.

i am inspired by mother nature and the various 'soul stars' that have come into my life. Here i am not using the word 'soul-mate' but rather a term that Paramahansa Yogananda used to describe those special people who come into our lives who are bright stars from the past who we work with. This "true friendship unites two souls so completely that they reflect the unity of Spirit and its divine qualities." Sometimes we work for incarnations towards this goal with others. There is an important SRF lesson on this entitled 'Friendship'. i think it is wonderful when we meet someone else who is truly helping us and we are helping them spiritually. This relationship goes beyond using others and filling the void as in for instance: endless hours on the cell phone or internet without having significant contact.

Steve

I like the words ' soul stars ', and what a beautiful description of true friendship. As I was listening to your music this morning, I was drawn to the following verses from your song Demian, which I think fits in quite well with this topic of "special people who come into our lives who are bright stars from the past who we work with "  and This "true friendship unites two souls so completely that they reflect the unity of Spirit and its divine qualities". There is something special when this happens, a Divine connection, and helping one another spiritually is an added blessing from above.

(from Steve's song - Demian)
"Here we are all together
It seems our lives have crossed the same path
Wonderin' where we'll be tomorrow
Yet we're tryin' to be here today

All our lives we've been searching
Tryin' to find some meaning
To this life we've been thrown in clouds drift by
Let the Master to the Mystery be your guide "

blessings,
Into Blue   


Title: Re: Soulmates or Soulstars?
Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Jun 16, 2015 07:59 am
In many ways I believe it is the intention of divine love to expand such love. When spiritual aspirants confine such love they suffocate that expansion that includes love for all. This is why u rarely if ever see a master with such souls unless u want to speak of the relationship of for instance Mary and Jesus. But even he posed the question; who is my brother, sister mother etc. He gave love to all.

On the contrary I have seen these type of so called soul mate relationships crush long term friendships. But this is my own personal spiritual lesson from such ideas. As soon as I give love in a singular sense there has always been a contrary set of circumstances that reminded me of love for all. In my own experience i have never met two people together as 'soulmates' that could extend that love to others. They have always needed space and separation. Which means it has always been selfish.


Title: Re: Soulmates or Soulstars?
Post by: SpiritImage on Jun 16, 2015 08:43 am
Marriage and family I hear is supposed to teach how to love, care, behave with others. Then we're to treat everyone that way.

Doesn't always work out that way though. For some reason, there's always a few egos/personalities here and there that throw a wrench in the works.

Take one of my co-workers for example, please.





Title: Re: Soulmates or Soulstars?
Post by: Starling on Jul 23, 2015 04:11 am
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On the contrary I have seen these type of so called soul mate relationships crush long term friendships. But this is my own personal spiritual lesson from such ideas. As soon as I give love in a singular sense there has always been a contrary set of circumstances that reminded me of love for all. In my own experience i have never met two people together as 'soulmates' that could extend that love to others. They have always needed space and separation. Which means it has always been selfish.

Very interesting concept from you.....Your destiny? Perhaps? It is important to take a step back to explore the nature of the relationships we hold in our life.


Title: Re: Soulmates or Soulstars?
Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Jul 23, 2015 03:47 pm
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On the contrary I have seen these type of so called soul mate relationships crush long term friendships. But this is my own personal spiritual lesson from such ideas. As soon as I give love in a singular sense there has always been a contrary set of circumstances that reminded me of love for all. In my own experience i have never met two people together as 'soulmates' that could extend that love to others. They have always needed space and separation. Which means it has always been selfish.

Very interesting concept from you.....Your destiny? Perhaps? It is important to take a step back to explore the nature of the relationships we hold in our life.

Some people never come back. They loose connection with friends and loved ones forever. There spiritual life becomes a very narrow personal life venture.


Title: Re: Soulmates or Soulstars?
Post by: SpiritImage on Jul 23, 2015 08:07 pm
Some people never come back. They loose connection with friends and loved ones forever. There spiritual life becomes a very narrow personal life venture.

Maybe that is the way they must progress their spiritual life. Maybe that is the way to progress. If you strip it all down there's just you that's left. Realizing God within yourself and within others I believe is different than the old relationships that "come and go".


Title: Re: Soulmates or Soulstars?
Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Jul 23, 2015 08:51 pm
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On the contrary I have seen these type of so called soul mate relationships crush long term friendships. But this is my own personal spiritual lesson from such ideas. As soon as I give love in a singular sense there has always been a contrary set of circumstances that reminded me of love for all. In my own experience i have never met two people together as 'soulmates' that could extend that love to others. They have always needed space and separation. Which means it has always been selfish~Steve

Very interesting concept from you.....Your destiny? Perhaps? It is important to take a step back to explore the nature of the relationships we hold in our life.
Some people never come back. They loose connection with friends and loved ones forever. There spiritual life becomes a very narrow personal life venture.

Maybe that is the way they must progress their spiritual life. Maybe that is the way to progress. If you strip it all down there's just you that's left. Realizing God within yourself and within others I believe is different than the old relationships that "come and go".

Progressing spiritually seems quite unlikely if you leave people on bad terms. If it were not for the way we treat others what significance would spirituality have? It is never too late. We can always rectify our actions or lack of them regardless of what response we recieve. Sometimes an apology or an act of kindness is much better than nothing. How can we even use such meaningful words as soulmates, soul flames or soul stars without this lasting quality that makes such words meaningful?

Is it destiny? Yes very much so. Everyones.The destiny is very karmically based.... what we have worked on for life times with those who we are close to and have spent much time together. We cannot control the actions or lack of response from those we share a common destiny with. We can only control our own responses. That is our spiritual responsibility. That is what makes us what we are. That is and will make our spiritual destiny!

~Jitendra


Title: Re: Soulmates or Soulstars?
Post by: SpiritImage on Jul 23, 2015 09:18 pm
Progressing spiritually seems quite unlikely if you leave people on bad terms. If it were not for the way we treat others what significance would spirituality have? It is never too late. We can always rectify our actions or lack of them regardless of what response we recieve. Sometimes an apology or an act of kindness is much better than nothing. How can we even use such meaningful words as soulmates, soul flames or soul stars without this lasting quality that makes such words meaningful?

Maybe we will always be confronted with egos that exhibit bad behavior, and therefore can provoke. Those interactions are just pulling me back down when I want to go up. You can sugar coat your words to anyone you wish all you want, and try to rectify any situation honestly from the heart.

But it still comes down to the self, and God communion.


Title: Re: Soulmates or Soulstars?
Post by: Starling on Jul 24, 2015 03:00 am

Karma and those who come into ones life path, whether good terms or bad, ones destiny, and spirituality..... all a part of the life journey. Does it not all interconnect to make us who we are and progress karmically? Soul connections come in all forms. Recognition, awareness and acceptance are ways to understand why paths have crossed and also help us to clearly see the reason that these meetings resonate so deeply within our souls. I  do believe that Karma is something that bonds people together. If there is no resolution to a problem that occurs between two people then those two people have until the end of this life or the next to resolve it. Once the balance is corrected and the inbalance is righted, then  this person usually leaves within a matter of days,weeks or years and you never see them again. We're all connected karmically. So, eventually in the end.. are we not all soulmates, soulstars? with one common goal, in spirituality? (many just haven't found that out yet in their life journey) One has the opportunity to experience every facet of belief until it has a taste of it's own true path that lies within. Anger, vanity, attachment and greed help insure endless rounds of births and re-births in it's unconscious or, conscious search for spiritual freedom. Spiritual freedom is the final release from the Karmic worlds. May be that some are just progressed further than others.


Title: The balance of karma.
Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Jul 24, 2015 03:54 am

Karma and those who come into ones life path, whether good terms or bad, ones destiny, and spirituality..... all a part of the life journey. Does it not all interconnect to make us who we are and progress karmically? Soul connections come in all forms. Recognition, awareness and acceptance are ways to understand why paths have crossed and also help us to clearly see the reason that these meetings resonate so deeply within our souls. I  do believe that Karma is something that bonds people together. If there is no resolution to a problem that occurs between two people then those two people have until the end of this life or the next to resolve it. Once the balance is corrected and the inbalance is righted, then  this person usually leaves within a matter of days,weeks or years and you never see them again. We're all connected karmically. So, eventually in the end.. are we not all soulmates, soulstars? with one common goal, in spirituality? (many just haven't found that out yet in their life journey) One has the opportunity to experience every facet of belief until it has a taste of it's own true path that lies within. Anger, vanity, attachment and greed help insure endless rounds of births and re-births in it's unconscious or, conscious search for spiritual freedom. Spiritual freedom is the final release from the Karmic worlds. May be that some are just progressed further than others.

It seems quite likely that many of our contacts with those close to us-who leave-create more karma for themselves. Why? Because more inbalance is created in the process.

Some of our contacts fit more closely  the definition of soulmates and soulflames. Why? Because their spiritual evolution and understanding more approximates our own.

Maintaining a balance in karma.

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Title: Re: Soulmates or Soulstars?
Post by: SpiritImage on Jul 24, 2015 07:02 am
Sure we are all spirits. All connected. Spiritually. Being connected karmically maybe as far as what we perceive in others maybe a reflection of oneself.

I dunno. I've always been mostly a loner. I'm not one that joins a stadium and cheers together. I'm the sheep that wanders away from the pack. My job even I do mostly alone, and, I get more done that way. Less distractions means more concentration. We all get comfortable I guess.

I'm not saying soulmates and soulflames have no benefit. But I think past experiences with others we all deal with differently don't we.

Thing is, I don't have many friends or soulmates. Probably next to none. Most of the people I've met in my life have just been "friendly" but nothing to the heart.

Not all of us experience this "connection" that causes both to realize they are soulmates.

There is only one absolute. Only one true trusting friend. I'm here for that. There are many paths...








Title: Re: Soulmates or Soulstars?
Post by: Starling on Jul 25, 2015 05:43 am
We have all had the experience of knowing someone who acted as an enemy. Are such people karmic? Or are they just doing bad things? And how do we love such difficult souls?


Title: Re: Soulmates or Soulstars?
Post by: SpiritImage on Jul 25, 2015 06:43 am
Maybe it turns karmic if we deal with them a certain way. Maybe leaving them to their own devices might turn bad karma away as well.

I don't think I can love a difficult ego, but the spirit is inescapable.

What was that line by Yogananda, "He is like a mouthful of hot molasses: too hot to swallow, but too sticky to spit out!"


Title: Re: Soulmates or Soulstars?
Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Jul 25, 2015 07:10 am
We have all had the experience of knowing someone who acted as an enemy. Are such people karmic? Or are they just doing bad things? And how do we love such difficult souls?

.....and you what does one called Starling have as an opinion on such matters?

It seems i have created a few myself. Perhaps it is because i did not act the way they thought to be appropriate. i do not consider them enemies. Although some of them have done some evil things. Could it be we are facing are karma through others? Maybe we cannot - at this time - love such difficult ones. Maybe we have not yet found such love. Though we aspire for it.


Title: Re: Soulmates or Soulstars?
Post by: Starling on Jul 26, 2015 12:32 am
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.....and you what does one called Starling have as an opinion on such matters?
I guess if someone is causing you trouble, doesn't mean it is automatically a sign of bad karma. But if this is someone who knows you, or someone who keeps returning to your life...it may be unresolved issue between two that is playing itself out. I believe we are all children of God, and we all have the right to protect ourselves, yet the same law of love comes into the picture. It can be one of our greatest tests to show love to thosewe feel are enemies. I guess if we are not up to the task of being able to love our enemies, we need to ask God to love them for us.


Title: Re: Soulmates or Soulstars?
Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Jul 26, 2015 10:20 am
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.....and you what does one called Starling have as an opinion on such matters?
I guess if someone is causing you trouble, doesn't mean it is automatically a sign of bad karma. But if this is someone who knows you, or someone who keeps returning to your life...it may be unresolved issue between two that is playing itself out. I believe we are all children of God, and we all have the right to protect ourselves, yet the same law of love comes into the picture. It can be one of our greatest tests to show love to those we feel are enemies. I guess if we are not up to the task of being able to love our enemies, we need to ask God to love them for us.

Yes with many people we have mixed karma. It can not be so easily classified as bad or good. If we really know that someone can be treacherous or is a drain on us it is much easier to let them go. Life is full of unresolved situations that is why we are here... to understand them and learn from them.

'Enemies' is quite a strong word. If we really feel this way about someone we can distance ourselves from them. i personally do not have any enemies in my life. But i do believe that some people do not mean me any good so i choose to stay as far as i can from them until their attitude is quite different. Fortunately there are many kind people in my life so i do not have to continually be around those who are not. i hope your life is the same Starling. If it is not you have friends here and i have always considered you a friend. Thanks for coming back to the Portal and spending time with us. i hope to spend more meaningful time with you! Your last line is memorable: "I guess if we are not up to the task of being able love our enemies we need to ask God to do it for us"


Title: Re: Soulmates or Soulstars?
Post by: SpiritImage on Jul 26, 2015 07:58 pm
"I guess if we are not up to the task of being able love our enemies we need to ask God to do it for us"

I think we must do it ourselves, with the power that God has given us. I don't hate the spirit at work that bothers me, I just don't love the attitude. To me, it is apples and oranges.


Title: Re: Soulmates or Soulstars?
Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Dec 19, 2015 03:02 am
"Having a soulmate is not always about love. You can find your soulmate in a friendship too" Just something i read on the internet. Not sure who's idea but i like it. You can find a soulmate in a friendship too. Would you agree? We love people in many ways. Love becomes more and more part of our lives and it is expressed in many ways. We begin to learn this on the spiritual path. Often people are taken from us for this expressed purpose. It is not what we have but what we are becoming that counts the most and eventually what we find out we really are.


Title: Re: Soulmates or Soulstars?
Post by: guest88 on Dec 19, 2015 07:50 am
Hi Steve, just wanted to comment..

I've read soul mates can exist in groups. A collective of sorts... the details of which are surely as vast as ones imagination, perhaps more. ((?))

I've a couple friends I can think of that may belong to my little star group 😊🐛animals included !



Title: Re: Soulmates or Soulstars?
Post by: kalunga on Dec 20, 2015 08:48 pm
Hi. I'm new to this site reading this recent post, which is a great question by the way on karma and people doing evil or harmful things. from my experience, each person, each connection good or bad brings reflection and opportunity for growth. People are people that have potential for expending a lot of harm or very little harm - if you look at yourself and say, "oh not me, never" well possibly you haven't been put in a position for it to come out yet - life is a mystery that cannot be compartmentalized - each day is anew with so many variables seen and unseen. I try to wake up each day and say, this is how I would like to positively respond to life's experiences today, sometimes it works out sometimes it doesn't. when it doesn't i wake up a little more to human nature. I also try to remember that all so called "evil doers" have a mother. I am beginning to see more and more that working on the mind and character are more important than working on "the spirit". thanks for this outlet letting me share. Kalunga


Title: Re: Soulmates or Soulstars?
Post by: Jitendra Hydonus on Dec 21, 2015 10:39 pm
Hi. I'm new to this site reading this recent post, which is a great question by the way on karma and people doing evil or harmful things. from my experience, each person, each connection good or bad brings reflection and opportunity for growth. People are people that have potential for expending a lot of harm or very little harm - if you look at yourself and say, "oh not me, never" well possibly you haven't been put in a position for it to come out yet - life is a mystery that cannot be compartmentalized - each day is anew with so many variables seen and unseen. I try to wake up each day and say, this is how I would like to positively respond to life's experiences today, sometimes it works out sometimes it doesn't. when it doesn't i wake up a little more to human nature. I also try to remember that all so called "evil doers" have a mother. I am beginning to see more and more that working on the mind and character are more important than working on "the spirit". thanks for this outlet letting me share. Kalunga

Kalunga

'Being put in a position for it to come out' as you say is very true for me over the years. I really did not know how I would respond to another person or a sequence of events until they happened. In retrospect I would have done it much different . But how did we know that such things would happen?  How did we know people we spend so much time with would react the way they have towards  us? We may have thought we acted appropriate at the time but someone else may have looked at things quite different. So that is where the 'reflection and time for growth' come in.

Perhaps you are finding that 'working on the mind and character' are more important than 'working on the spirit'
because we can work on our mind and character and increase our ability to express our spirit in the process.
The spirit is something we tap into. We can do all the right things and nothing spiritually seems to happen. It is by grace that we have spiritual experience.... by grace.  We only can do what the great ones have told us. If we  can follow their advice we will eventually experience spirit. When we do have spiritual experience our faith and motivation increases. Yet we will be discouraged again. This is the human part. But even the discouragement  develops tolerance and compassion . Because we understand more and more what it is like to be human and what others are going through in this struggle we face in being in truth what we really are and not as we have imagined we were. This struggle to find self-realization.