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« on: Sep 19, 2024 07:39 pm »

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« Reply #1 on: Sep 19, 2024 10:44 pm »

One of the best ways of being likable is being truthful and not telling lies about others. This trait on dishonest Don has rubbed off on many of his followers who also lie about others to defame them.
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« Reply #2 on: Sep 19, 2024 11:09 pm »

But...it would really appear that many of the big lies come from the Democrats side.

Trump is Hitler.

Trump is an asset of the Russians

If Trump wins, there will be a bloodbath

.... And more...

The demonization of a political adversary is one of the biggest, although efficacious lies, or strategies, a political faction can choose.
Very similar, if not identical, to Soviet propaganda. Based on lies. They become cliches and are repeated again and again until many people believe it...
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« Reply #3 on: Sep 19, 2024 11:48 pm »

But...it would really appear that many of the big lies come from the Democrats side.

Trump is Hitler.

Trump is an asset of the Russians

If Trump wins, there will be a bloodbath

.... And more...

The demonization of a political adversary is one of the biggest, although efficacious lies, or strategies, a political faction can choose.
Very similar, if not identical, to Soviet propaganda. Based on lies. They become cliches and are repeated again and again until many people believe it...

Let us take one of your statements at a time…. For now, you may just see how this quote came about….

https://youtu.be/VqE39b7r1KY?si=B6snxwim-LYhyR5d

As you can see it was Trump himself that made that statement, as a type of revenge if he loses.

I could find no quotes of anyone, including myself who said Trump is Hitler, however I do see similarities between them. And John Kelly who served under Dishonest Don did say that Trump told him Hitler did a lot of good things.

Trump allegedly praised Hitler as doing ‘a lot of good things,’ new book claims. Dishonest Don has a history of praising dictators. This is no secret and I have already discussed this.

Do I think Trump is an asset to the Russians? Yes definitely.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy says he's worried at the prospect of Donald Trump returning to the White House, branding Trump's claim that he could stop Ukraine's war with Russia in 24 hours as "very dangerous."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-zelenskyy-ukraine-russia-1.7090119

You have shown me nothing here mccoy but I do not think any group of people is totally free from telling lies. But there are pathological liars and Dishonest Don is one of them.
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« Reply #4 on: Sep 20, 2024 05:17 pm »

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Let us take one of your statements at a time…. For now, you may just see how this quote came about….

https://youtu.be/VqE39b7r1KY?si=B6snxwim-LYhyR5d

As you can see it was Trump himself that made that statement, as a type of revenge if he loses.

Apparently, Trump's words have been taken out of context and the meaning very distorted. No revenge at all, just loss of jobs. Many jobs.
Was it an unwilling or a willing distortion by the Democrat Elite? I'm afraid the answer is the simplest one: willing distortion and defamation of a political adversary. At the end of his earthly life, maybe Don Trump will have atoned all of his sins and will be sanctified by the personal and political persecutions he suffered.

While speaking about the potential loss of U.S. auto manufacturing jobs to foreign countries, former President Donald Trump said if he isn’t elected, “it’s going to be a bloodbath for the country.”

President Joe Biden’s campaign quickly accused Trump of fomenting “political violence.” The Trump campaign said Trump was clearly using the term in the context of an economic bloodbath.

“If you actually watch and listen to the section, he was talking about the auto industry and tariffs,” Steven Cheung, a spokesman for Trump’s campaign, told the Washington Post, adding that “Biden’s policies will create an economic bloodbath for the auto industry and autoworkers.”

That explanation seems the most plausible, given the context of Trump’s comments.

Speaking at a rally on the grounds of the Dayton International Airport in Ohio, Trump said that over the last three decades, Mexico has siphoned off U.S. auto manufacturing jobs, and he accused China of building car manufacturing plants in Mexico that will cost U.S. autoworkers their jobs.


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« Reply #5 on: Sep 20, 2024 05:26 pm »

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I could find no quotes of anyone, including myself who said Trump is Hitler, however I do see similarities between them. And John Kelly who served under Dishonest Don did say that Trump told him Hitler did a lot of good things.

Of course he's probably not the incarnation of hitler, but he has been compared to hitler and Hitler's policy against jews. The implications is that he could be a second Hitler. The line of reasoning seems coherent with the vast demonization of this poor individual who has dared to challenge and win the masters of the universe, the democrat elite= the Obamas, the Clintons, and many others.

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Two powerful House Democrats have invoked Adolf Hitler’s actions in Germany and the treatment of Jews during World War I and in the 1920s to warn against the direction the US is moving in, with both saying Donald Trump’s presidency presents an unprecedented threat to democracy.

House Whip James Clyburn’s comments came in a Tuesday interview with NBC News in which he noted that he previously cited the rise of Hitler while discussing America’s political climate, according to the outlet.

“Adolf Hitler was elected chancellor of Germany. And he went about the business of discrediting institutions to the point that people bought into” it,” the South Carolina congressman said, according to NBC. “Nobody would have believed it now. But swastikas hung in churches throughout Germany. We had better be very careful.”


https://edition.cnn.com/2019/03/20/politics/james-clyburn-trump-hitler-comparison/index.html

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« Reply #6 on: Sep 20, 2024 05:39 pm »

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And John Kelly who served under Dishonest Don did say that Trump told him Hitler did a lot of good things.


Again: do we have a context? Is this just recounted in a book or do we have hard, indisputable evidence?

I can say that Mussolini did a lot of great things in Italy before allying with Hitler. I would be saying the truth. But this would not by any means mean that I am a supporter of Mussolini. On the other hand, I am a strong critic of the second part of his life. The 1st part though was very positive and Mussolini was admired as a statesman even by the British.

So, everything must be kept in context. If the above is true, was Trump being supremely ignorant or was he really admiring the massacre of the Jews perpetrated by Hitler and his minions? I'm actually smiling, because the former is pretty likely. Ignorance. But ignorance is not exactly the same as admiration of genocide.

Again,  it all seems part of a consolidated demonization scheme.
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« Reply #7 on: Sep 20, 2024 05:43 pm »

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I could find no quotes of anyone, including myself who said Trump is Hitler, however I do see similarities between them. And John Kelly who served under Dishonest Don did say that Trump told him Hitler did a lot of good things.

Of course he's probably not the incarnation of hitler, but he has been compared to hitler and Hitler's policy against jews. The implications is that he could be a second Hitler. The line of reasoning seems coherent with the vast demonization of this poor individual who has dared to challenge and win the masters of the universe, the democrat elite= the Obamas, the Clintons, and many others.

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Two powerful House Democrats have invoked Adolf Hitler’s actions in Germany and the treatment of Jews during World War I and in the 1920s to warn against the direction the US is moving in, with both saying Donald Trump’s presidency presents an unprecedented threat to democracy.

House Whip James Clyburn’s comments came in a Tuesday interview with NBC News in which he noted that he previously cited the rise of Hitler while discussing America’s political climate, according to the outlet.

“Adolf Hitler was elected chancellor of Germany. And he went about the business of discrediting institutions to the point that people bought into” it,” the South Carolina congressman said, according to NBC. “Nobody would have believed it now. But swastikas hung in churches throughout Germany. We had better be very careful.”


https://edition.cnn.com/2019/03/20/politics/james-clyburn-trump-hitler-comparison/index.html

I completely agree with these men mccoy. I just started a thread called Xenophobia which will outline some of Dishonest Don’s comments and prejudicial comments about others. And which is a danger in itself, towards all those who are not white and wealthy as he is. Not to even speak of all the people he has stiffed in the past that have led to his countless felonies.
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« Reply #8 on: Sep 20, 2024 05:47 pm »

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And John Kelly who served under Dishonest Don did say that Trump told him Hitler did a lot of good things.


Again: do we have a context? Is this just recounted in a book or do we have hard, indisputable evidence?

I can say that Mussolini did a lot of great things in Italy before allying with Hitler. I would be saying the truth. But this would not by any means mean that I am a supporter of Mussolini. On the other hand, I am a strong critic of the second part of his life. The 1st part though was very positive and Mussolini was admired as a statesman even by the British.

So, everything must be kept in context. If the above is true, was Trump being supremely ignorant or was he really admiring the massacre of the Jews perpetrated by Hitler and his minions? I'm actually smiling, because the former is pretty likely. Ignorance. But ignorance is not exactly the same as admiration of genocide.

Again,  it all seems part of a consolidated demonization scheme.

What we we have here is a preponderance of evidence given by his staff, his niece, his lawyer, his generals his women, his state of origin….and the list grows day by day. His hate I have just stated. Did you not read it? Here it is again….

Former President Donald Trump took aim at Taylor Swift in a Truth Social post Sunday, declaring his distaste for the superstar after she endorsed his opponent, former Vice President Kamala Harris.

"I HATE TAYLOR SWIFT!" Trump wrote in the post.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-says-i-hate-taylor-swift/

It is not hearsay mccoy. He actually said it. And he has said derogatory things about black people, about Mexicans and about his generals and military. The man  is worthless in his behavior, and should be recognized fir what he is; a two bit con man. If you find something good about him I welcome you to that opinion. But to me he is the greatest danger I have ever seen to democracy. And has said he will take revenge on his critics if he gets in office again. This is a very revengeful and hatred consumed man. And he has poisoned the minds of others to carry this this same hatred. He must be stopped before he destroys our democracy with his divisive hatred.
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« Reply #9 on: Sep 20, 2024 05:53 pm »

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Do I think Trump is an asset to the Russians? Yes definitely.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy says he's worried at the prospect of Donald Trump returning to the White House, branding Trump's claim that he could stop Ukraine's war with Russia in 24 hours as "very dangerous."
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-zelenskyy-ukraine-russia-1.7090119

Steve, whoever can think that Trump was an asset of the Russians, but this has never been proven by the in-depth investigation actuated by the Democrat themselves who wanted, from the very beginning, jeopardize his presidency. they never succeeded.

Steve, I understand that the democrats have a personal issue against this person, but I must confess that, after having done this research, and having listened to people like Tulsi Gabbard, I am starting to feel a deep sympathy for Mr Trump, who appears more like a helpless victim than a potential duplicate of Hitler.
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« Reply #10 on: Sep 20, 2024 05:59 pm »

What we we have here is a preponderance of evidence given by his staff, his niece, his lawyer, his generals his women….and the list grows day by day. His hate I have just stated. Did you not read it? Here it is again….

Former President Donald Trump took aim at Taylor Swift in a Truth Social post Sunday, declaring his distaste for the superstar after she endorsed his opponent, former Vice President Kamala Harris.

"I HATE TAYLOR SWIFT!" Trump wrote in the post.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-says-i-hate-taylor-swift/

MMMMmmmmm... there is no evidence at all, just hearsay. And considering the level of demonization and propaganda, that hearsay is probably part of such dishonest, defamatory propaganda.

Steve, I prefer a spontaneous remark like the one made by Trump, rather than the hypocrisy of the democrats. I'll add that I myself am not such a huge fan of Ms Taylor Swift.
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« Reply #11 on: Sep 20, 2024 06:11 pm »

I cannot understand you mccoy. He actually said he hates her. You would really sympathize with someone with that kind of animosity? It is not hearsay. He said it. He has been openly hostile his whole career. I give you evidence of it and you still ignore it by blaming his comments on other people? I’m sorry 😞 but we have come to an impasse on this critical point in the history of democracy. I respect your views but cannot condone hatred.

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« Reply #12 on: Sep 23, 2024 12:03 pm »

Trump is a con artist. From lying about his wealth to giving out fake diplomas and refusing to pay small businesses, contractors, and workers along the way — Trump is scamming everyday Americans.

He promised a strong economy, but was responsible for record job losses, increased offshoring, and tax cuts that benefited only the wealthy few in his first term.

This November, stop Don the Con and vote for an economy where everyone has enough to thrive.


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« Reply #13 on: Sep 24, 2024 08:06 am »

Steve, I admire your perseverance in outlining all the flaws in Mr. Trump's character. You've found so many that I wonder if there are any left. Probably not.

Now, to cultivate objectivity and detachment and to achieve some balance in judgment, I believe you should outline some flaws of the other candidate, Ms. Harris.
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« Reply #14 on: Sep 24, 2024 10:31 am »

Steve, I admire your perseverance in outlining all the flaws in Mr. Trump's character. You've found so many that I wonder if there are any left. Probably not.

Now, to cultivate objectivity and detachment and to achieve some balance in judgment, I believe you should outline some flaws of the other candidate, Ms. Harris.

In fact there are. The lack of concern Donald Trump ever showed for human dignity and human rights. Which Paramahansa Yogananda has said is the flaw of Americans culture; misplaced priorities. He went ahead and traded with Saudi Prince Salman and never was concerned that the Saudi Prince was most likely the cause of the death and mutilation of an American Journalist, during his administration.

A US intelligence report has found that Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman approved the murder of exiled Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi in 2018. Which Trump did not even flinch about and the Biden/Harris team also continued oil trade with no seeming remorse for their dirty dealings. The report released by the Biden administration says the prince approved a plan to either "capture or kill" Khashoggi. The US announced sanctions on dozens of Saudis but not the prince himself.

He went ahead and traded with China in the midst of knowledge of China’s awful treatment of the Ughers and the people practicing Qigong meditation and a free expression of spirituality. And Trump actually withheld aid to Ukraine to get dirt on  both Biden and Clinton.

Trump also praised Putin, despite the fact that he murdered Navalny and poisoned and murdered anyone disagreeing with him in his country.

Ms. Harris is not my favorite candidate either since like Trump she has never said a word about the truth of the statements Julian Assange made about the U.S. but has been treated like an international espionage criminal for his truthful journalism. And like Trump and Biden she will most likely show no concern for the redacted documents explaining what the government supposedly has little to no knowledge about on UFO’s or the murders of for instance the Kennedy’s. RFK and Tulsi Gabbard were the only lasting candidates showing concern for such issues, like the blow to free journalism, that Julian Assange reported and was silenced about.
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