Like usual on almost everything Donald Trumps ego cannot tolerate defeat. So he continued the narrative that Obama was not a true American citizen but that his (Obama’s) birth certificate itself is a fraud much later on after it was proven Obama was indeed born in the U.S.A.
So; Is it any wonder that Obama would respond to the Fuhrer as above?Trump gets hit with CRUSHING news as debate fallout intensifies…
https://youtu.be/Oypi0m8S5OY?si=UOavevPQ6bj_dlKRSteve, what defeat are we speaking about? It was prior than 2011, when D. Trump was but a simple politician. AFAIK, there was a current of politicians who liked to poke Obama and imply that he was not American Borne. It was more nuisance than other. Politicians sometimes like to prong the adversaries and, who knows, something might have been amiss, then it would be trouble for Obama!
The request seems legitimate to me, what I find excessive are the reactions, including your reaction.
Obama in that meeting was pretty cool, he poked Trump back in a gentlemanly manner and Trump at least apparently was amused by the exchange, but, as some observers say, deep down was pushed to run for presidential elections, and show Obama that he was able to reach the same level.
Again, I understand a personal dislike toward the individual. I too, do not like much Trump's character, his way of speaking, what he eats and so on. But we cannot turn a personal dislike into a persecution.
For heaven's sake, Trump has been called Hitler and Mussolini, the former being responsible for the mass murder of millions of Jews. This demonization is fruit of political scheme and has probably caused these assassination attempts.
Steve, you say in this forum there is no room for hate, but it may seem that, by calling Trump Fhurer, you are adhering to the hate narrative of the Democrats, which is pushing mentally unbalanced people to try and get rid of the new Hitler, Fuhrer Trump, to become heroes after having assassinated this heinous personality, as depicted by many politic adversaries.
I propose, in the spirit of this forum and the ideals supported by the great gurus, that we all become more respectful and objective when speaking of candidates, who represent each about 50% of American citizens.
We should not be carried away by our own personal likes and dislikes but analyze objectively the situation.
We should also try and not pick the cherries, that is follow the narrative we like and proposed by the internet. We should try and dig deeper and construe data, which, of course, it's not easy, is pretty hard.
I am realizing that the internet provides me with videos that are in favour of Trump. That is not reality. That is the algorithm, initiated by my previous searches.
You, Steve, probably have an analogous problem, but the algorithm is distorting your searches the other way, providing only videos against Trump.
It is strange, but true. In a way it's good, since I realized that , at least in my country, there is not a deliberate manipulation of data against or in favour of a candidate, it all stems from my own previous research. This way the algorithm works, though, it may provide a very biased view of reality.
For example, how it is possible that democrats are insisting that new polls are in favour of HArris, whereas the republicans are saying just the opposite? Who is lying? Which tools do I have to understand the reality?
It would be very, very naive to say that republicans are lying 100%, or that democrats are lying 100%.
‘What defeat are we talking about’ was your question. This is a rather reoccurring theme in the personality of dishonest Don. And by the way, I really mean those that have made descriptions of him. But let us just mention two defeats here; one is the loss of the election in 2020 and secondly his loss of his view that Obama was not a citizen. See below for that one….
https://apnews.com/united-states-presidential-election-general-news-events-61f7085d848248cd98410027d33f2101“Hillary Clinton and her campaign of 2008 started the birther controversy. I finished it,” Trump said.
While the question of Obama’s birthplace was raised by some backers of Clinton’s primary campaign against Obama eight years ago, Clinton has long denounced it as a “racist lie.”
Dishonest Don continues to rationalize even his mistakes and false judgments. As a political leader and before being one. I see no ‘persecution’ here. That is not my intention or ability. But I do see a pathological liar. So I will call his character into question with the appellation Dishonest Don, and I do believe he aspires to be Fuhrer Trump. Since he has not gained the power to make such judgments, he has been unable to cause such harm to others as for instance an Adolph Hitler. Let us hope that he doesn’t gain such powers to do so. He has already put into motion those possibilities with his far right appointees of Supreme Court Justices with the ability to give him immunity to prosecution, which is why he is not now in jail, which any common person would be in the United States. Instead they have given him the opportunity to operate as a King.
In all due respect to your opinion of me and my reactions mccoy I listen and evaluate everything you have said. And will take appropriate actions to such comments. I would like to add here that no one sees us like others do, and specifically our friends.
In further detail about the people in this country who support Dishonest Don I have started a new thread, called The Existential Threat. It is quite possible that Dishonest Don would and will take oppressive action to such people like me and his political enemies if he were to become President again. He has glorified the actions of tyrants all throughout his career. There is no hate in this evaluation, only a desire to see people as they are, and the danger they represent. In fact I feel compassion for such people as Putin, Jung Un, Donald Trump and XI, let us not forget what our Guru has said about such people….
‘They will have to return to this planet to experience everything they have done to others.’
“We have to live through the results of everything we put others through.”
~Paramahansa Yogananda
