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« Reply #60 on: Sep 14, 2024 01:47 am »

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What I do see as a fatal flaw in both RFK and Tulsi Gabbard though is the support of ending our support of the struggle for democracy in military aid to Ukraine. So I am now asking you mccoy-with your thoughts of the cruelty of Putin and recognizing his evil intents-How can you take her philosophy and put it together with the lack of support she exemplifies in our democracy for helping others with their needs to function independent of aggression by outside forces, in this case Russia and Putin.

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I do concur with your analysis about Gabbard and Kennedy (whom I dont' know much though). We might even be talking about disgruntled ex democrats, but it would appear that the disgruntlement is justified in a way.

Ukrainian War: Tulsi Gabbard explains it in a clear way, she says that America did not make her best to avoid the war and, as I've written previously, it is indeed the truth, both America and Europe. Biden even invited an escalation after the invasion. But after the invasion it was already too late. Europe and America should have seen it before and act to avoid it. It was a failure of the American president and of the European politicians.

Trump says that if he had been in charge there would have been no war and I agree on that. Now he suggests that it may be too late, even though he has undisclosed plans.

Putin remains a dangerous demon but so far the war is completely destroying Ukraine. Better destroyed than conquered you may retort, but I counter retort that it would have been undoubtedly better whole and unconquered.

The above is the rationale behind Gabbard's criticism of the so-called warmongering of the Democrats. Not just cease to support Ukraine, but trying to stop the whole war.


Mccoy I need to take one point you’re making here at a time. First let’s look at a video of her views discussed with with Tucker Carlson. ⬇️

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Finland and Norway are both countries sharing borders with Russia. They are NATO countries. Why shouldn’t they receive protection from free loving countries just as Ukraine would like? Avoiding the conflict on the grounds that Russia may not have invaded Ukraine if it were not for the fact that Ukraine may become a NATO country sharing its border just doesn’t hold water. We know full well that Ukraine was already invaded in Crimea.  So it would only make sense that Ukraine had and has had a concern over its border violations increasing. Why shouldn’t it justifiably want protection from as a big a nation as it had been invaded by? To what extent should a country ignore its own sovereignty for the sake of placating Putin?

Furthermore Tulsi speaks of the Ukrainian citizens wanting nothing to do with politics. mccoy I didn’t want anything to do with politics either when the south decided to start war with the north here in the states. The fact remains that there comes a crucial time in history, a turning point if you will, when certain injustices have occurred long enough and if people will not respond to these events in a positive way it invites divisions in opinion. It was not Zelenski’s intention to get in a war with Putin and Russia. In fact Putin already invaded Crimea with impunity. This was under a Democratic administration at the time. Let us not forget that. But he new as we all do the evilness that Putin has wreaked on Europe ever since he came to power. Who wouldn’t want protection against such oppression? Anyone would against such a mad man. Who wants to be a part of an oppressive government like Putins Russia? Tucker Carlson says that a poll was conducted that showed that before the war in Ukraine most Americans did not want us to get involved in such a conflict. I was one of those Americans. But things have changed and there is no doubt that Putin invaded not only Crimea but now blatantly attacked the heart of Ukraine. So we are at a totally different place than Tulsi and Tucker attempt to portray. Tulsi Gabbard may know the hardships of war, being in the military, yet she has not known the hardships of expressing an opinion and being punished for it by life term prison sentences, poisoning or actual murder for perceived misconduct. Freedom is not free and doesn’t come without a price.

There is overwhelming factor here that I hope you are aware of mccoy. And that is that you have brought up many points in tid bits here. Without addressing each one individually it would be senseless to make any conclusions about your prevailing opinion about the ‘far left’ or Democratic Party. You mentioned that your primary views have been developed by listening to Gabbard giving a clear view so I am addressing your point about her here. After i receive a response on this i welcome some of your other comments with an in depth analysis, in the logical format you have explained you like to follow.


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« Reply #61 on: Sep 14, 2024 05:46 pm »

I appreciate the fact that you posted the link to a short video. Here Gabbard clearly speculates. What could have been? Nobody knows that.

I heard her rationale by domestic analysts as well. Russians have been incredibly paranoic all the time. The west was not able to capture the signals. Crimea was invaded, but the hot spot was the Donbas. I think war is the proof of the failure of western diplomacies. At least, they didn't try hard enough.

Does the above justify Putin? Not at all, his aim was to send out tanks to Kiev and lead a coup, to install a puppet president, an emanation of him.

Gabbard in part speculates, in part tells the truth. Also, I remember us discussing Blinken's words about sanctions. I remember I said: they won't be effective in the short term, probably in the medium or long term. But I was wrong since it appears that they haven't been effective not even in the long term. The situation presently is favourable to China.

At the end though, thewar in Ukraine is not in my opinion the strongest topic against the democrats.

They tried to silence their nazist (Fuhrer Trump) adversary in every way, by charging him of treason with Russia, by silencig him on twitter, by issuing multiple charges against him. It is a classic of politics, I've seen that in Italy, the left wings hate to lose and will do everything to silence the adversary in unfair ways. Even though you might retort nothing is unfair in this game of politics. Maybe not even Trump's lies.
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« Reply #62 on: Sep 14, 2024 06:26 pm »



This man is so out of it with dishonesty that nothing compares to his life illusions and conspiracies against him. Let’s pray that his insanity is restored. At this late stage in his life he appears to be totally indoctrinated by the spin doctors in his head.
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« Reply #63 on: Sep 14, 2024 11:19 pm »

I like the dog-on-a-pan vignette! Fuhrer Trump should have been more cautious in his assertions. As soon as the debate was over, as it was easily foreseeable, the internet filled up with similar memes.

It does not matter anyway. He has been persecuted and he has been admirably calm notwithstanding the persecutions from the big elite, Obama is the main persecutor, he has a very personal issue with Fuhrer Trump, it has been so evident for some time. Obama cannot stand any criticism of his perfect policy, from none. I remember the face he contracted when Ben Carson dared to criticize him in a public speech, to his presence. Obama has shown unfortunately a high degree of hypocrisy, describing himself in his book as a semigod from the astral realms.

These things do not go unnoticed. All the world has observed that the persecution continues, with the fact-checkers checking only Trump's facts, not the incorrect facts enunciated by St. Kamala Comrad Harris. Fuhrer Trump is indisputably a victim, a saint Martyr, whereas Comrad Kamala is just a simple saint. Therefore St. Martyr-Fuhrer-Trump should win these elections, standing higher in the heaven's hierarchy.

Maybe Fuhrer Trump is going to win, he has the powerful endorsement of the magnate Musk, who perhaps is James Lynn reincarnated in full business genius and power, to help avoid a new sinister world order where the pronouns are more important than everything else and where those who disagree are silenced and canceled from social platforms.

Maybe Comrad Kamala will win, with the endorsement of such a vacuous and shallow celebrity as Taylor Swift. By the way, I have a very low opinion of all showbiz celebrities. The only thing they are able to do is to sing and get restless on a podium, above thousands of people gone crazy. The triumph of insanity, insanity which is presently endorsing St. Kamala-insane.

God save America in both circumstances, but my impression is that St Comrad Kamala does not know very much what to do. never mind, all the saints of the democrat elite are behind her to provide suggestions galore. Everyone knows she's just a facade, the important thing is to squeeze down the hated Fuhrer Trump, he's so full of himself and never ceases criticizing the exalted semigods in the democrats paradise.

All the world knows that it's a tight run. Interesting subplot of the cosmic film. I'm watching amused, sipping some diet coke, decaffeinated. I don't eat popcorn. I eat little anyhow.
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« Reply #64 on: Sep 15, 2024 05:44 pm »

I like the dog-on-a-pan vignette! Fuhrer Trump should have been more cautious in his assertions. As soon as the debate was over, as it was easily foreseeable, the internet filled up with similar memes.

It does not matter anyway. He has been persecuted and he has been admirably calm notwithstanding the persecutions from the big elite, Obama is the main persecutor, he has a very personal issue with Fuhrer Trump, it has been so evident for some time. Obama cannot stand any criticism of his perfect policy, from none. I remember the face he contracted when Ben Carson dared to criticize him in a public speech, to his presence. Obama has shown unfortunately a high degree of hypocrisy, describing himself in his book as a semigod from the astral realms.


I’m very curious about the quote you read in his book about being a semigod please send it here. Also I do not know if you recall but Trump made a big deal about Obama not being an American citizen. It came to nothing. Another one of his typical disparaging remarks that are out right lies. Trump  has no character. He is all hype and a pathological liar.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/28/politics/donald-trump-barack-obama-birth-certificate-nyt/index.html
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« Reply #65 on: Sep 15, 2024 06:33 pm »

I’m very curious about the quote you read in his book about being a semigod please send it here. Also I do not know if you recall but Trump made a big deal about Obama not being an American citizen. It came to nothing. Another one of his typical disparaging remarks that are out right lies. Trump  has no character. He is all hype and a pathological liar.
https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/28/politics/donald-trump-barack-obama-birth-certificate-nyt/index.html

Steve, of course Obama in his book 'The audacity of hope' did not write nor imply that he was a demigod. On the contrary, he was very humble and inspirational and full of spirituality about America being a great country (they sounded like the words of Donald Trump) and how to extend bipartisanship and avoid divisiveness. He did not write he was a demigod, but the vibrations of the book were there, as if a very spiritual man had written it, as if this grandiose figure of a politician was sent by God and the high creatures of the causal world to save humanity.

But in reality he showed some (a lot?) of hypocrisy. He couldn't stand Trump. It became personal, maybe because of the episode you cited, the birth certificate. It is very well known the meeting where he ridiculed Trump. 'I am a President, he will never become like me'. A spiritual being would have been passionate and understanding toward an inferior being like Trump, not ridicule him in public. This is not exactly an attitude I expected after reading the book. I also remember well Obama's expression when Ben Carson harshly criticized him in a public speech, they were together. Maybe he didn't expect it but Obama's face became very serious and hurt and almost hateful. He may have thought: 'He dared criticize me! The best politician since Abraham Lincoln'! I remained stunned by that.

Also, his presidency in external affairs was a downright disaster, with one notable exception, I'll admit, the killing of Bin Laden, which gained him a second mandate. I think a demon suggested to him how to organize the killing so that he could be re-elected and keep ruining the world.
Fuhrer Trump, always in external affairs, was far, far better.

So, Trump is a liar, but a poor liar. Obama has been a more sinister and devious liar. The former (Trump) is a dumbass. The latter (Obama) is an ominous soul, deceiving  America and the world.

If I were a real demigod, I would reset all history and have these two candidates (The fuhrer and the comrade) deleted.

America deserves a real president.
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« Reply #66 on: Sep 17, 2024 06:37 am »

I’m very curious about the quote you read in his book about being a semigod please send it here. Also I do not know if you recall but Trump made a big deal about Obama not being an American citizen. It came to nothing. Another one of his typical disparaging remarks that are out right lies. Trump  has no character. He is all hype and a pathological liar.
https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/28/politics/donald-trump-barack-obama-birth-certificate-nyt/index.html

Steve, of course Obama in his book 'The audacity of hope' did not write nor imply that he was a demigod. On the contrary, he was very humble and inspirational and full of spirituality about America being a great country (they sounded like the words of Donald Trump) and how to extend bipartisanship and avoid divisiveness. He did not write he was a demigod, but the vibrations of the book were there, as if a very spiritual man had written it, as if this grandiose figure of a politician was sent by God and the high creatures of the causal world to save humanity.

But in reality he showed some (a lot?) of hypocrisy. He couldn't stand Trump. It became personal, maybe because of the episode you cited, the birth certificate. It is very well known the meeting where he ridiculed Trump. 'I am a President, he will never become like me'. A spiritual being would have been passionate and understanding toward an inferior being like Trump, not ridicule him in public. This is not exactly an attitude I expected after reading the book. I also remember well Obama's expression when Ben Carson harshly criticized him in a public speech, they were together. Maybe he didn't expect it but Obama's face became very serious and hurt and almost hateful. He may have thought: 'He dared criticize me! The best politician since Abraham Lincoln'! I remained stunned by that.

Also, his presidency in external affairs was a downright disaster, with one notable exception, I'll admit, the killing of Bin Laden, which gained him a second mandate. I think a demon suggested to him how to organize the killing so that he could be re-elected and keep ruining the world.
Fuhrer Trump, always in external affairs, was far, far better.

So, Trump is a liar, but a poor liar. Obama has been a more sinister and devious liar. The former (Trump) is a dumbass. The latter (Obama) is an ominous soul, deceiving  America and the world.

If I were a real demigod, I would reset all history and have these two candidates (The fuhrer and the comrade) deleted.

America deserves a real president.

First of all this is all God’s play not yours or mine or Trumps and Harris’s so I’m watching the play the director has orchestrated. Now you have made a quote that you thought Obama made, that you later pushed back on. That is that ‘Obama said he was a Demi-Go’ ( spelled wrong because you said ‘semi god’) I asked for the quote and instead of showing it to us you have spoken about the ‘tone’ of his speech which is a very subjective evaluation without evidence.

You also said that Obama should have more understanding of an inferior human being. My response to that mccoy is that the attitude of a boisterous arrogant and dishonest man often should be dealt with harshly. And I have evidence of that in the life of Jesus, who reprimanded the Pharisees and Scribes vehemently. So if Obama uses the same method it is appropriate.

It is obvious from the link below that President Obama was not correct in his confidence with the American people. So I see it as even more important that the American people have sized up Tump’s character since the violence he provoked in the last election and the manipulation he as enabled in his appointees, which has made it possibly to remain out of jail because of the immunity they have allowed him.

Mccoy though I look at your opinions with interest, you have make statements about what people have said without the evidence of fact behind them. So again I would like you to provide evidence of where you procured the statement he presumably made about , Trump. Would you provide it?

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« Reply #67 on: Sep 17, 2024 09:20 am »

Steve, first of all, what I wrote about Obama and his book:

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Obama has shown unfortunately a high degree of hypocrisy, describing himself in his book as a semigod from the astral realms.

So I used the verb 'describing'. That was obviously not a literal description, rather something which almost was behind the lines. I also always use a jocular, tongue in cheek tone. Obama would never have written clearly he is a demigod. He may have thought so, but he is a clever fiend, not a foolish one, so he would never have written such a blatant self-aggrandizing statement.

Obama may not be a full hypocrite, but he really thinks he is better than Trump. He sins of pride, it's all so evident. Trump has many materialistic flaws, but I have noticed that Obama is full of pride and arrogance, which he astutely masks behind a benign and benevolent facade.

I prefer the pompous ass, the spontaneous, impulsive boor that Trump actually is, without a mask, to the snub, hypocrite mentality that Obama has proved eventually to be.

At the end, it seems to me that Obama has more like a Pharisee personality then Fuhrer Trump. Jesus would probably have forgiven Trump the dumbass at the same time condemning the fiendish Obama-Pharisee.
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« Reply #68 on: Sep 17, 2024 01:58 pm »

Steve, first of all, what I wrote about Obama and his book:

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Obama has shown unfortunately a high degree of hypocrisy, describing himself in his book as a semigod from the astral realms.

So I used the verb 'describing'. That was obviously not a literal description, rather something which almost was behind the lines. I also always use a jocular, tongue in cheek tone. Obama would never have written clearly he is a demigod. He may have thought so, but he is a clever fiend, not a foolish one, so he would never have written such a blatant self-aggrandizing statement.

Obama may not be a full hypocrite, but he really thinks he is better than Trump. He sins of pride, it's all so evident. Trump has many materialistic flaws, but I have noticed that Obama is full of pride and arrogance, which he astutely masks behind a benign and benevolent facade.

I prefer the pompous ass, the spontaneous, impulsive boor that Trump actually is, without a mask, to the snub, hypocrite mentality that Obama has proved eventually to be.

At the end, it seems to me that Obama has more like a Pharisee personality then Fuhrer Trump. Jesus would probably have forgiven Trump the dumbass at the same time condemning the fiendish Obama-Pharisee.

At any rate this is all a subjective ‘feeling’ you have about Obama.  We are watching a play being enacted. And despite what happens it is not under our control. I just see it differently mccoy. Anyone that would accuse someone of not even being a citizen of this country and therefore having no right to run for president., is obviously judging someone and making false accusations. But Trump is a king at that. What ever happened to the adage; ‘Do not judge lest ye be judged?’ No, looking at the words of our guru Jesus, I believe the blame rests on the ego of the Fuhrer who could never except defeat and that he actually lost. Instead turning this nation into a divisive caldron. One man’s little tongue is the instigator and box of matches that has caused ‘raging forest fires’ across the country and those vibrating waves have affected the world with his hate. His hate is blatantly expressed. See proof of what I’m saying below….


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« Reply #69 on: Sep 17, 2024 05:17 pm »

Re. Obama and Trump. I could not retrieve the video I first saw, which was maybe an edited one, maybe elaborated by AI. I could only find the one I'm linking below, at the White House Correspondents’ Dinner 2011, but it contains only jests, not impolite addresses.



I'm happy if what I previously described did not happen. I am still flabbergasted not that Trump asked for Obama's birth certificate. He was a political adversary of Obama, so it was in his rights to require proof of birthing the USA. What I don't understand much is the fuss from Obama and his followers about Trump's request. A very legitimate request met with supreme indignation.

Re. Obama and Ben Carson. The video is apparently no more available or it is very difficult to find. But I remember it well. Ben Carson's harsh critiques of Obamacare and other things made Obama cringe and shut down in disgusted silence..



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« Reply #70 on: Sep 17, 2024 06:31 pm »

Re. Obama and Trump. I could not retrieve the video I first saw, which was maybe an edited one, maybe elaborated by AI. I could only find the one I'm linking below, at the White House Correspondents’ Dinner 2011, but it contains only jests, not impolite addresses.


I'm happy if what I previously described did not happen. I am still flabbergasted not that Trump asked for Obama's birth certificate. He was a political adversary of Obama, so it was in his rights to require proof of birthing the USA. What I don't understand much is the fuss from Obama and his followers about Trump's request. A very legitimate request met with supreme indignation.

Re. Obama and Ben Carson. The video is apparently no more available or it is very difficult to find. But I remember it well. Ben Carson's harsh critiques of Obamacare and other things made Obama cringe and shut down in disgusted silence..

Like usual on almost everything Donald Trumps ego cannot tolerate defeat. So he continued the narrative that Obama was not a true American citizen but that his  (Obama’s) birth certificate itself is a fraud much later on after it was proven Obama was indeed born in the U.S.A. So; Is it any wonder that Obama would respond to the Fuhrer as above?

Trump gets hit with CRUSHING news as debate fallout intensifies…

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« Reply #71 on: Sep 17, 2024 11:10 pm »

When Trump gets cornered his response is always; how do we know anything is true? But that is not really where you go if the facts are on your side. And of course on mail in voting ballots and on the question of Obama’s birth certificate, the facts are not on the Fuhrer’s side so he falls back on the notion of ‘How do you know anything is true?’ And in this case even Obama’s birth certificate is suspect and considered fraudulent by the Fuhrer; another conspiracy against him having his own way, and always being right. So in his case it is the only place he can go. Ofcourse it is all about the Democrats working against him as you (mccoy) have described it. But one with any degree of discernment would recognize his conspiracy theories are the last resort he has when the facts are stacked up against him.

Mccoy there is really nothing anyone including Obama can do but to call Trump out on his pathological lies. To you it may sound cocky, to me it sounds like a man confident about his legitimacy and a man who recognizes he is talking to someone who feels good by making himself big by cutting off the heads of others. A concept that our Guru, Paramahansa Yogananda brought up in deciphering the character of others. In this case it perfectly describes Donald Trump.
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« Reply #72 on: Sep 18, 2024 10:06 am »

Like usual on almost everything Donald Trumps ego cannot tolerate defeat. So he continued the narrative that Obama was not a true American citizen but that his  (Obama’s) birth certificate itself is a fraud much later on after it was proven Obama was indeed born in the U.S.A. So; Is it any wonder that Obama would respond to the Fuhrer as above?

Trump gets hit with CRUSHING news as debate fallout intensifies…

https://youtu.be/Oypi0m8S5OY?si=UOavevPQ6bj_dlKR

Steve, what defeat are we speaking about? It was prior than 2011, when D. Trump was but a simple politician. AFAIK, there was a current of politicians who liked to poke Obama and imply that he was not American Borne. It was more nuisance than other. Politicians sometimes like to prong the adversaries and, who knows, something might have been amiss, then it would be trouble for Obama!

The request seems legitimate to me, what I find excessive are the reactions, including your reaction.

Obama in that meeting was pretty cool, he poked Trump back in a gentlemanly manner and Trump at least apparently was amused by the exchange, but, as some observers say, deep down was pushed to run for presidential elections, and show Obama that he was able to reach the same level.

Again, I understand a personal dislike toward the individual. I too, do not like much Trump's character, his way of speaking, what he eats and so on. But we cannot turn a personal dislike into a persecution.

For heaven's sake, Trump has been called Hitler and Mussolini, the former being responsible for the mass murder of millions of Jews. This demonization is fruit of political scheme and has probably caused these assassination attempts.

Steve, you say in this forum there is no room for hate, but it may seem that, by calling Trump Fhurer, you are adhering to the hate narrative of the Democrats, which is pushing mentally unbalanced people to try and get rid of the new Hitler, Fuhrer Trump, to become heroes after having assassinated this heinous personality, as depicted by many politic adversaries.

I propose, in the spirit of this forum and the ideals supported by the great gurus, that we all become more respectful and objective when speaking of candidates, who represent each about 50% of American citizens.

We should not be carried away by our own personal likes and dislikes but analyze objectively the situation.

We should also try and not pick the cherries, that is follow the narrative we like and proposed by the internet. We should try and dig deeper and construe data, which, of course, it's not easy, is pretty hard.

I am realizing that the internet provides me with videos that are in favour of Trump. That is not reality. That is the algorithm, initiated by my previous searches.

You, Steve, probably have an analogous problem, but the algorithm is distorting your searches the other way, providing only videos against Trump.

It is strange, but true. In a way it's good, since I realized that , at least in my country, there is not a deliberate manipulation of data against or in favour of a candidate, it all stems from my own previous research. This way the algorithm works, though, it may provide a very biased view of reality.

For example, how it is possible that democrats are insisting that new polls are in favour of HArris, whereas the republicans are saying just the opposite? Who is lying? Which tools do I have to understand the reality?

It would be very, very naive to say that republicans are lying 100%, or that democrats are lying 100%.
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« Reply #73 on: Sep 18, 2024 03:32 pm »

Like usual on almost everything Donald Trumps ego cannot tolerate defeat. So he continued the narrative that Obama was not a true American citizen but that his  (Obama’s) birth certificate itself is a fraud much later on after it was proven Obama was indeed born in the U.S.A. So; Is it any wonder that Obama would respond to the Fuhrer as above?

Trump gets hit with CRUSHING news as debate fallout intensifies…

https://youtu.be/Oypi0m8S5OY?si=UOavevPQ6bj_dlKR

Steve, what defeat are we speaking about? It was prior than 2011, when D. Trump was but a simple politician. AFAIK, there was a current of politicians who liked to poke Obama and imply that he was not American Borne. It was more nuisance than other. Politicians sometimes like to prong the adversaries and, who knows, something might have been amiss, then it would be trouble for Obama!

The request seems legitimate to me, what I find excessive are the reactions, including your reaction.

Obama in that meeting was pretty cool, he poked Trump back in a gentlemanly manner and Trump at least apparently was amused by the exchange, but, as some observers say, deep down was pushed to run for presidential elections, and show Obama that he was able to reach the same level.

Again, I understand a personal dislike toward the individual. I too, do not like much Trump's character, his way of speaking, what he eats and so on. But we cannot turn a personal dislike into a persecution.

For heaven's sake, Trump has been called Hitler and Mussolini, the former being responsible for the mass murder of millions of Jews. This demonization is fruit of political scheme and has probably caused these assassination attempts.

Steve, you say in this forum there is no room for hate, but it may seem that, by calling Trump Fhurer, you are adhering to the hate narrative of the Democrats, which is pushing mentally unbalanced people to try and get rid of the new Hitler, Fuhrer Trump, to become heroes after having assassinated this heinous personality, as depicted by many politic adversaries.

I propose, in the spirit of this forum and the ideals supported by the great gurus, that we all become more respectful and objective when speaking of candidates, who represent each about 50% of American citizens.

We should not be carried away by our own personal likes and dislikes but analyze objectively the situation.

We should also try and not pick the cherries, that is follow the narrative we like and proposed by the internet. We should try and dig deeper and construe data, which, of course, it's not easy, is pretty hard.

I am realizing that the internet provides me with videos that are in favour of Trump. That is not reality. That is the algorithm, initiated by my previous searches.

You, Steve, probably have an analogous problem, but the algorithm is distorting your searches the other way, providing only videos against Trump.

It is strange, but true. In a way it's good, since I realized that , at least in my country, there is not a deliberate manipulation of data against or in favour of a candidate, it all stems from my own previous research. This way the algorithm works, though, it may provide a very biased view of reality.

For example, how it is possible that democrats are insisting that new polls are in favour of HArris, whereas the republicans are saying just the opposite? Who is lying? Which tools do I have to understand the reality?

It would be very, very naive to say that republicans are lying 100%, or that democrats are lying 100%.

‘What defeat are we talking about’ was your question. This is a rather reoccurring theme in the personality of dishonest Don. And by the way, I really mean those that have made descriptions of him. But let us just mention two defeats here; one is the loss of the election in 2020 and secondly his loss of his view that Obama was not a citizen. See below for that one….

https://apnews.com/united-states-presidential-election-general-news-events-61f7085d848248cd98410027d33f2101

“Hillary Clinton and her campaign of 2008 started the birther controversy. I finished it,” Trump said.

While the question of Obama’s birthplace was raised by some backers of Clinton’s primary campaign against Obama eight years ago, Clinton has long denounced it as a “racist lie.”

Dishonest Don continues to rationalize even his mistakes and false judgments. As a political leader and before being one. I see no ‘persecution’ here. That is not my intention or ability. But I do see a pathological liar. So I will call his character into question with the appellation Dishonest Don, and I do believe he aspires to be Fuhrer Trump. Since he has not gained the power to make such judgments, he has been unable to cause such harm to others as for instance an Adolph Hitler. Let us hope that he doesn’t gain such powers to do so. He has already put into motion those possibilities with his far right appointees of Supreme Court Justices with the ability to give him immunity to prosecution, which is why he is not now in jail, which any common person would be in the United States. Instead they have given him the opportunity to operate as a King.

In all due respect to your opinion of me and my reactions mccoy I listen and evaluate everything you have said. And will take appropriate actions to such comments. I would like to add here that no one sees us like others do, and specifically our friends.

In further detail about the people in this country who support Dishonest Don I have started a new thread, called The Existential Threat. It is quite possible that Dishonest Don would and will take oppressive action to such people like me and his political enemies if he were to become President again. He has glorified the actions of tyrants all throughout his career. There is no hate in this evaluation, only a desire to see people as they are, and the danger they represent. In fact I feel compassion for such people as Putin, Jung Un, Donald Trump and XI, let us not forget what our Guru has said about such people….

‘They will have to return to this planet to experience everything they have done to others.’

“We have to live through the results of everything we put others through.”

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« Reply #74 on: Sep 18, 2024 10:25 pm »

Steve, I cannot say much about the supreme court appointment, but, faced with deliberate persecution, such as 34 felony charges for a single act, I personally would see an appointment favorable to Mr. Trump as self-defense.

I have seen that in Italy.
Political factions have created a network of judges to destroy their political opponents and they have been successful with Mr. Berlusconi, former Italian premier. They are trying this again presently with other political figures.

I cannot see any evidence that MT (Mr. Trump) glorified the actions of tyrants. He has carried out an international policy that appeared to be far more effective than his predecessor, Mr. Obama.

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