What I do see as a fatal flaw in both RFK and Tulsi Gabbard though is the support of ending our support of the struggle for democracy in military aid to Ukraine. So I am now asking you mccoy-with your thoughts of the cruelty of Putin and recognizing his evil intents-How can you take her philosophy and put it together with the lack of support she exemplifies in our democracy for helping others with their needs to function independent of aggression by outside forces, in this case Russia and Putin.
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-threatens-imprison-biden-090658476.htmlI do concur with your analysis about Gabbard and Kennedy (whom I dont' know much though). We might even be talking about disgruntled ex democrats, but it would appear that the disgruntlement is justified in a way.
Ukrainian War: Tulsi Gabbard explains it in a clear way, she says that America did not make her best to avoid the war and, as I've written previously, it is indeed the truth, both America and Europe. Biden even invited an escalation after the invasion. But after the invasion it was already too late. Europe and America should have seen it before and act to avoid it. It was a failure of the American president and of the European politicians.
Trump says that if he had been in charge there would have been no war and I agree on that. Now he suggests that it may be too late, even though he has undisclosed plans.
Putin remains a dangerous demon but so far the war is completely destroying Ukraine. Better destroyed than conquered you may retort, but I counter retort that it would have been undoubtedly better whole and unconquered.
The above is the rationale behind Gabbard's criticism of the so-called warmongering of the Democrats. Not just cease to support Ukraine, but trying to stop the whole war.
Mccoy I need to take one point you’re making here at a time. First let’s look at a video of her views discussed with with Tucker Carlson. ⬇️
https://youtu.be/OF5oPNjMZw4?si=75LACkO-qbbpjNCdFinland and Norway are both countries sharing borders with Russia. They are NATO countries. Why shouldn’t they receive protection from free loving countries just as Ukraine would like? Avoiding the conflict on the grounds that Russia may not have invaded Ukraine if it were not for the fact that Ukraine may become a NATO country sharing its border just doesn’t hold water. We know full well that Ukraine was already invaded in Crimea. So it would only make sense that Ukraine had and has had a concern over its border violations increasing. Why shouldn’t it justifiably want protection from as a big a nation as it had been invaded by? To what extent should a country ignore its own sovereignty for the sake of placating Putin?
Furthermore Tulsi speaks of the Ukrainian citizens wanting nothing to do with politics. mccoy I didn’t want anything to do with politics either when the south decided to start war with the north here in the states. The fact remains that there comes a crucial time in history, a turning point if you will, when certain injustices have occurred long enough and if people will not respond to these events in a positive way it invites divisions in opinion. It was not Zelenski’s intention to get in a war with Putin and Russia. In fact Putin already invaded Crimea with impunity. This was under a Democratic administration at the time. Let us not forget that. But he new as we all do the evilness that Putin has wreaked on Europe ever since he came to power. Who wouldn’t want protection against such oppression? Anyone would against such a mad man. Who wants to be a part of an oppressive government like Putins Russia? Tucker Carlson says that a poll was conducted that showed that before the war in Ukraine most Americans did not want us to get involved in such a conflict. I was one of those Americans. But things have changed and there is no doubt that Putin invaded not only Crimea but now blatantly attacked the heart of Ukraine. So we are at a totally different place than Tulsi and Tucker attempt to portray. Tulsi Gabbard may know the hardships of war, being in the military, yet she has not known the hardships of expressing an opinion and being punished for it by life term prison sentences, poisoning or actual murder for perceived misconduct. Freedom is not free and doesn’t come without a price.
There is overwhelming factor here that I hope you are aware of mccoy. And that is that you have brought up many points in tid bits here. Without addressing each one individually it would be senseless to make any conclusions about your prevailing opinion about the ‘far left’ or Democratic Party. You mentioned that your primary views have been developed by listening to Gabbard giving a clear view so I am addressing your point about her here. After i receive a response on this i welcome some of your other comments with an in depth analysis, in the logical format you have explained you like to follow.
