Gaza

[Jitendra Hydonus]

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Drone footage shows destruction in Gaza after Israeli airstrikes

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Part of what we need to address is the long silence of the Jewish establishment about the occupation of Palestinians, and the ways that the Netanyahu government has sold the Israeli people on the idea that they can both have peace and allow settlers to run rampant over the human rights of Palestinians. And those things don't go together

~politico

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[Jitendra Hydonus]

Terrified families flee Rafah as Israel set to open all-out assault
Leaflet instructs Palestinians to leave southern Gaza city as Benjamin Netanyahu shuns pressure from Joe Biden


More than a hundred thousand Palestinians fled Rafah, Gaza’s southernmost city, on Saturday, after Israeli warnings to evacuate before an imminent military assault that will open a bloody new phase of the seven-month-long conflict.

~ the Guardian

[mccoy]

I realized that many people are only seeing one side of the sphere, the Israeli brutality, while neglecting an even greater brutality from the Palestinians, culminated in mass rapes and killing of innocent Israeli civilians, many of whom, young boys and girls, were also probably favorable to the plight of Palestinians. No one protested against the demonic brutality of Palestinians.
The consequences are karmically inevitable. This sphere of thought is presently pure destruction, both sides are too much at the extreme, I strongly doubt that a solution is beyond the corner.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

I realized that many people are only seeing one side of the sphere, the Israeli brutality, while neglecting an even greater brutality from the Palestinians, culminated in mass rapes and killing of innocent Israeli civilians, many of whom, young boys and girls, were also probably favorable to the plight of Palestinians. No one protested against the demonic brutality of Palestinians.
The consequences are karmically inevitable. This sphere of thought is presently pure destruction, both sides are too much at the extreme, I strongly doubt that a solution is beyond the corner.

This is a war that I would rather not see the United States finance mccoy and I believe it may cause a lot further consequences for the U.S. We have already seen the upheaval it has caused on campuses. I’m not knowledgeable about it to make an educated view. But I do know that Israel has a long history of inflaming the Palestinians by taking their landi and building on it. As well as now having a far right, hard as steal, absolute view currently, that only has added to the tension that developed there. And while the karma you see may be true: I see a karma dealt on the other side. Why? Because it goes back a long way to when the Jews themselves crucified their savior and have never accepted the New Testament nor Jesus as a legitimate savior for their people. Although now it is very difficult to even begin to think that Jesus Christ was nothing but a false prophet. Even the Muslim community sees him as a great prophet or Avatar.

Therefore I find your view of karma on this particular issue very one sided. I understand that the Jewish people went through tremendous suffering during WWII but for the most part it has not changed their religion: they are still waiting for their savior. How much does it take to transform people and for them to see the merit of the teachings and the life that Jesus came here for to serve his people? Can anyone blame (Jesus) him for reprimanding them in their temples when their was, and still is, so much obstinacy and rigidity in such a ‘sphere of thought’.

[mccoy]

Therefore I find your view of karma on this particular issue very one sided. I understand that the Jewish people went through tremendous suffering during WWII but for the most part it has not changed their religion: they are still waiting for their savior. How much does it take to transform people and for them to see the merit of the teachings and the life that Jesus came here for to serve his people? Can anyone blame (Jesus) him for reprimanding them in their temples when their was, and still is, so much obstinacy and rigidity in such a ‘sphere of thought’.

My one-sidedness is only apparent. I'm not evaluating historical karma here, just the most recent episodes.

Would I condone Ukrainians doing mass raping on civilians in Russia, killing their kids and taking hostages and let most of'em die underground? No, it is not remotely admissible in a spiritual context, even if Putin and his Russian supporters are dead wrong in their war. What is admissible is to fight strenuously against military targets, and if there is collateral (civilian) damage, that's part of a legitimate war.

In the same way, Palestinians committed extreme atrocities that have no place in today's world and society. Their main target was helpless civilians.
That's why I wonder about the double moral standard, people protesting in favour of Palestinians when they just attracted the inevitable counter-violence of Israel.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

What you call admissible in civilian casualties it seems would also be admissible when an invader takes over your land and homes. Otherwise it’s like calling the kettle black. You are welcome to your opinion mccoy , but yes there are long term consequences and karma to assess here, not just short term. I’m not a judge as to how God meets it out but there are some reasonable assessments from observations. I just am responsible for the country I live in this life and we have made some serious errors supporting some ruthless people. This may have never occurred had it not been for Benjamin Netanyahu and his obstinate right wing party.

Regardless of all moral scruples when it comes to wars, the U.S. continues to support dwindling religious factions that are definitely a relic of the Kali Yuga. The God of fire and brimstone which exists either in Moslem or Jewish areas, is a barbaric ritual I believe the United States should attempt to stick its 👃 out of. We already “played God’ in Iraq and Afghanistan and look what we reaped from those incursions. For me and the country I live in, I just think we should keep our noses out of it regardless of the karmic factors and morality of the situation. Let God determine that, not the United States. I believe that is what a lot of the young people are demonstrating about today in this country, similar to the war in Vietnam during my generation.

I ask to ponder this mccoy; you live in Italy the focal point of the Roman Empire. The Roman Empire disintegrated primarily because of the outer symptoms of skirmishes along its outer perimeters. They began to be too challenging to mange. The United Clones have ate more then it can stomach. The Clones are in a similar situation; more on our plate then we can handle.

Shouldn’t we also take heed of the ‘prime directive’……

This article is about the guiding principle in the fictional Star Trek universe. For other uses of Prime Directive, see Prime Directive (disambiguation).
In the fictional universe of Star Trek, the Prime Directive (also known as "Starfleet General Order 1", and the "non-interference directive") is a guiding principle of Starfleet that prohibits its members from interfering with the natural development of alien civilizations.[1] Its stated aim is to protect unprepared civilizations from the danger of starship crews introducing advanced technology, knowledge, and values before they are ready.[2] Since its introduction in the first season of the original Star Trek series, the directive has featured in many Star Trek episodes as part of a moral question over how best to establish diplomatic relations with new alien worlds.

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[Jitendra Hydonus]

Israeli airstrike kills 40 after hitting tent camp for displaced people, Gaza officials say
The Israeli military said it had targeted two senior Hamas leaders in the strike in Rafah and that the incident was under review.

May. 26, 2024, 10:06 PM EDT / Updated May. 27, 2024, 5:52 AM EDT
Dozens of people were killed in Rafah late Sunday after an Israeli airstrike hit an area where displaced civilians were sheltering in tents and sparked a fire that tore across the camp, local officials said.

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[mccoy]

steve, I am ready to admit I may be biased, but, the more I reason into this sphere of thought, the more my reason suggests to me that many people are supporting the wrong, not the right sphere of thought.

The wrong sphere of thought is simply that Hamas is Palestinian resistance and that the attack of the 7th of October was legitimate.

The right sphere of thought in my opinion is that Hamas behaved like a terrorist organization, non like  legitimate army. Also, civilian Palestinians went out and committed the most demonic acts.

Now, the above atrocities prompted an inevitable armed response. Civilian deaths are also an inevitable part of such a response.

The above is my I hope impersonal view.

The protests against Israel are legitimate because they are destroying a 2-million people settlement together with the people, but I don't see any protests against Hamas which prompted the Israeli intervention, hence constituting the prime cause for the doom and destruction.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

steve, I am ready to admit I may be biased, but, the more I reason into this sphere of thought, the more my reason suggests to me that many people are supporting the wrong, not the right sphere of thought.

The wrong sphere of thought is simply that Hamas is Palestinian resistance and that the attack of the 7th of October was legitimate.

The right sphere of thought in my opinion is that Hamas behaved like a terrorist organization, non like  legitimate army. Also, civilian Palestinians went out and committed the most demonic acts.

Now, the above atrocities prompted an inevitable armed response. Civilian deaths are also an inevitable part of such a response.

The above is my I hope impersonal view.

The protests against Israel are legitimate because they are destroying a 2-million people settlement together with the people, but I don't see any protests against Hamas which prompted the Israeli intervention, hence constituting the prime cause for the doom and destruction.

I respect your view moccoy but there may have been no attack from Hamas if the Israel government didn’t allow its citizens and encourage them to constantly take the homes and land away from the Palestinians.

Your view that the Palestinians have no legitimate army reminds me of the protests of the British against the early settlers ( who settled here in America. ) who wouldn’t fight like them, marching in rows to their death while we hid behind trees and picked them off. Do you really expect the Palestinians to wage a conventional war against the power and might of the most powerful government on earth who are providing weapons for it (Israel) on their terms? I am appealing to your reasoning and logic.

Personally I believe the U.S. is creating much bad karma by sending all those weapons to a self righteous religious people who crucified Jesus and still believe their savior will come. This also affects my personal karma because I am a citizen here. So I have every reason to express a view on what i see as a mistake in our continuing to be igniting the conflict with our military might. To me their leader Netanyahu and his right wing coalition has brought shame to their people.

But on a more personal level, I want you to remember that I had reminded you that you are and will be going through many value changes and challenges in your life for an extended future with Pluto transiting your  second house of values and your natal moon. This is only one factor I have pointed out in a series of signs showing in your natal chart by current transits. But I have refrained from discussing it more. This shouldn’t prevent us from respectably differing in our views. We have a much higher calling in this life then the karma initiated by the barbaric acts of those souls still embroiled in the aftermath of the Kali Yuga. And regardless of your present learning experiences as reflected in the stars and signs…. I also can learn from our interactions, as I struggle to see my own thoughts in the light of a higher consciousness.



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[mccoy]

We have a much higher calling in this life then the karma initiated by the barbaric acts of those souls still embroiled in the aftermath of the Kali Yuga.

I agree, we are just watching the cosmic movie and focusing on different aspects of this plot.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

I like your attitude mccoy and find it here with us helping us see through eyes of eternity . It invites an understanding rather than a confrontation. I suppose that the two countries seem so far away and embroiled in such acrimony that I prefer not to be involved with it. However I find myself in the unpleasant knowledge that the country I live in has decided to continue to distribute large sums of money to both sides.  The side that we are sending most of the billions to is to support their aggression.

I hope you can put yourself in my shoes but I do not expect you to do so. Being in this country during the civil war; It is not like I intended to get involved in politics. It was thrust on me, being as I was, in the south and was conscripted to fight for slavery. That made me a traitor. I chose to free slaves, not keep them in bondage as we are all to various extents. Well here I am this incarnation and my country has a man that may become president who is a pathological liar. Should I say nothing? And a man in office with a Congress now who is dumping money into an endless quagmire in the Mideast. Should I keep my mouth zipped? That’s what other members thought who have left and have at times come back to spit. They couldn’t stand the talk about Trump that way. But they don’t see what i see here in Michigan. Signs up all over that are not even supportive of their candidate but rather demeaning, vulgar and hateful to other candidates running against Trump. This is the climate now in America mccoy. Why be obsessed about anything except perhaps God? But there is evil and Jesus witnessed and called it out in the religious rulers of his time.  I’m not Jesus, but in my little voice, I’m calling out the evil that is attempting to destroy our democracy here in the United Clones and it is beginning to look similar in many other countries.

This includes Israel where Jesus lived and was crucified by his own people. The same people who deny him today and we are supporting those people here in Cloneville, with vast sums of money to carry on their hate against Jesus and against the Palestinians, who include Jesus in their religion.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

steve, I am ready to admit I may be biased, but, the more I reason into this sphere of thought, the more my reason suggests to me that many people are supporting the wrong, not the right sphere of thought.

The wrong sphere of thought is simply that Hamas is Palestinian resistance and that the attack of the 7th of October was legitimate.

The right sphere of thought in my opinion is that Hamas behaved like a terrorist organization, non like  legitimate army. Also, civilian Palestinians went out and committed the most demonic acts.

Now, the above atrocities prompted an inevitable armed response. Civilian deaths are also an inevitable part of such a response.

The above is my I hope impersonal view.

The protests against Israel are legitimate because they are destroying a 2-million people settlement together with the people, but I don't see any protests against Hamas which prompted the Israeli intervention, hence constituting the prime cause for the doom and destruction.

I also may be biased, but the more i reason, the more I see no one ever protesting against Hamas is because the young people see that American will keep supporting Israel no matter what hideous acts she has done to another country or what hideous act Israel has done to the truth of her own religion by murdering her savior. And, just as the Jews crucified Jesus they still have learned nothing by a similar extermination of the Palestinians. After all, what was the purpose of the message of Jesus in contrast to the Jewish old Testament?; Forgiveness. But regardless of who is biased in this plot Mccoy should the United States play God? I believe that is our mistake in this conflict.

We have a much higher calling in this life then the karma initiated by the barbaric acts of those souls still embroiled in the aftermath of the Kali Yuga.

I agree, we are just watching the cosmic movie and focusing on different aspects of this plot.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Joe Biden's support for Israel during its eight-month war in Gaza has spurred at least eight U.S. administration officials to quit, with some accusing the U.S. president of turning a blind eye to Israeli atrocities in the Palestinian enclave.

The Biden administration denies this, pointing to its criticism of civilian casualties in Gaza and its efforts to boost humanitarian aid to the enclave, where health officials say more than 36,000 have been killed in Israel's assault.

Israel launched its offensive in Gaza after Hamas-led militants stormed into Israel on Oct. 7, killing around 1,200 people and taking 250 hostage, according to Israeli figures.

These are the eight officials.

Josh Paul, director of the State Department's bureau of political military affairs, left in October in the first publicly known resignation, citing what he described as Washington's "blind support" for Israel.

Harrison Mann, a U.S. Army major and Defense Intelligence Agency official, resigned in November over Gaza policy and went public with his reasons in May.

Tariq Habash, a Palestinian American, quit as special assistant in the Education Department's office of planning in January. He said the Biden administration was turning a "blind eye" to atrocities in Gaza.

Annelle Sheline resigned from the State Department's human rights bureau in late March, writing in a CNN article that she was unable to serve a government that "enables such atrocities."

Hala Rharrit, an Arabic language spokesperson for the State Department, quit in April "in opposition to the United States' Gaza policy," she wrote on her LinkedIn page.

Lily Greenberg Call was the first Jewish political appointee to resign, having served as a special assistant to the chief of staff in the Interior Department. She wrote in the Guardian in May that she resigned because "as a Jew I cannot endorse the Gaza catastrophe."

Alexander Smith, a contractor for USAID, quit in late May, alleging censorship after the U.S. foreign aid agency canceled publication of his presentation on maternal and child mortality among Palestinians. The agency said it had not gone through proper review and approval.

Stacy Gilbert, who served in the State Department's Bureau of Population, Refugees and Migration, quit in late May. She said she resigned over an administration report to Congress that she said falsely stated Israel was not blocking humanitarian aid to Gaza.

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[mccoy]

Steve, just one detail. Had Biden refused the support to Israel, the jews in America would have voted, almost everyone, for Trump. So, what would have been worse, to support Israel or to support the possibility to have Trump back as POTUS? Provided of course he manages to avoid big troubles after the recent verdict.