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« on: Feb 26, 2024 06:38 pm »

Been drinking more of these lately to substitute my caffeine cravings; yogi teas. See ⬇️

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« Reply #1 on: Feb 26, 2024 06:42 pm »

Persons interested in developing their memory, should avoid the regular use of mild stimulants, such as coffee, tea and tobacco, which contain caffeine, the theine, and nicotine, respectively. Strictly avoid using strong stimulants, such as liquor and drugs. All strong stimulants intoxicate, drug, and deteriorate, intelligence, and memory cells of the brain, preventing them from recording, noble ideas, and sense impressions in general. Memory cells that are constantly, and anesthetized by stimulants lose their retentive power and become lazy and inert. Intoxication obliterate the functions of the conscious mind by harmful chemicals, hence injures the cerebral memory-organ. When the brain is affected the memory is impaired.

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« Reply #2 on: Mar 26, 2024 05:07 pm »

Persons interested in developing their memory, should avoid the regular use of mild stimulants, such as coffee, tea and tobacco, which contain caffeine, the theine, and nicotine, respectively. Strictly avoid using strong stimulants, such as liquor and drugs. All strong stimulants intoxicate, drug, and deteriorate, intelligence, and memory cells of the brain, preventing them from recording, noble ideas, and sense impressions in general. Memory cells that are constantly, and anesthetized by stimulants lose their retentive power and become lazy and inert. Intoxication obliterate the functions of the conscious mind by harmful chemicals, hence injures the cerebral memory-organ. When the brain is affected the memory is impaired.
Paramahansa Yogananda (SRF lesson 49)

Steve, thanks for the citation, I'm going to elaborate this sphere of thoughts, I think I may have understood the conceptual framework of Yogananda's words, which is dopamine (and other neurotransmitters) overstimulation and exhaustion, a concept underlined in a podcast by the neurologist Andrew Hubermann.

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« Reply #3 on: Mar 26, 2024 05:53 pm »

Professor Hubermann is also a strong opponent of alcohol, explaining his reasons in another video.

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« Reply #4 on: Mar 27, 2024 06:08 am »

Hiya Steve and mccoy,

I like this thread thanks guys. Let's talk about what practices you do to increase your concentration and memory recall?

And Steve, I should caution you- yogi is good tea but be weary of tea bags which are full of microplastics and other harmful contaminants. For optimal results buy loose leaf tea.

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« Reply #5 on: Mar 27, 2024 11:03 am »

Hiya Steve and mccoy,
I like this thread thanks guys. Let's talk about what practices you do to increase your concentration and memory recall?
And Steve, I should caution you- yogi is good tea but be weary of tea bags which are full of microplastics and other harmful contaminants. For optimal results buy loose leaf tea.
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Eric, Hong-Sau is a good concentration technique. Memory, exercising it is a good method, such as memorizing poems, songs, whatever.

Caffeine: my first elaboration of Yogananda's words is that chronic and excessive use of this substance which competes with adenosine and works as a mild agonist of dopamine is deleterious to the balance of some neural circuits, especially so those expressing memory.

What is chronic use though? It changes from individual, on average the caffeine-safe threshold is 300 mg per day according to health agencies. A couple of cups of coffee per day or the use of energy drinks such as Red Bull may easily take you above that threshold.

My strategy is to drink only mountain specialty coffees which are low in caffeine and, beyond that, to drink decaf; it is not easy to find a good decaf, I'm in the process of searching and only found a single variety that satisfies my taste.
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« Reply #6 on: Mar 27, 2024 11:08 am »

By the way, I've not been drinking coffee for the first 40 years of my life, then I started to take advantage of its stimulant power to study and drive and keep awake, at the expense of sleep quality. Now, I'm being very careful not to drink it after 2 PM and not to exceed with caffeine. It takes admittedly some nerdy mentality but it can be done.
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« Reply #7 on: Mar 27, 2024 09:44 pm »

Thanks guys.
Currently I do, on average, 8 ounces of cold brew coffee every morning. I make it myself, bottle it, and give some away to friends and neighbors. People love it. I use organic beans and mountain valley spring water. I brew for up to 38 hours.
Eventually I will temper my addiction,  for now I've made some* peace with where I'm at. Life's a journey.

I read this scientific study yesterday after noticing this thread:
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Abstract
Caffeine is the most commonly used psycho stimulant. In addition to its widely known
peripheral effects, caffeine is also an adenosine antagonist. Adenosine, a neuromodulator, is
present in all areas ofthe brain, making caffeine's effects widespread. These effects differ based
on variables such as dose, prior exposure, and timing of administration. The goal ofthe present
study was to examine the effects of acute and chronic caffeine on spatial learning.
A radial arm water maze task was used to assess the behavioral effects of caffeine on
caffeine-acclimated and caffeine-naive rats. After an initial caffeine pretreatment (caffeine
administration for four weeks), half the rats were given caffeine injections during the learning
task. This resulted in four groups: caffeine administration during the pretreatment and during the
learning task (caffeine/caffeine), caffeine during the pretreatment and saline during the training
task (caffeine/saline), saline during the pretreatment and caffeine during the training task
(saline/caffeine), and saline during the pretreatment and during the training task (saline/saline).
The differences in latency to reach the platform, reference, and working memory errors were
observed between all groups.
The results ofthe pilot study and the main experiment are consistent with each other,
showing that rats given chronic (pretreatment) caffeine make significantly more memory errors
than rats given acute caffeine only. These results imply that while acute caffeine may not cause
any impairment in learning, chronic caffeine impairs memory over time.
https://scholarship.shu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1235&context=theses
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« Reply #8 on: Mar 27, 2024 10:50 pm »

That was interesting Eric. What it showed to me may be quite different than you might think. I was reading through the study and observing my thoughts simultaneously. It occurred to me I had a preconceived idea of what I thought were going to be the results of the study because of you finding it, which was untrue.

I will say this; although I have curbed caffeine consumption a lot in my diet, I still enjoy that momentary lift that sometimes can give me the exhilaration to get up and go jogging for an hour. And, the added enthusiasm I feel at times with little sleep. The spirt being willing but the body saying ‘no’. The caffeine can give my body a jump start, that finishes projects until I feel that energy flop that caffeine can also give like sugar does.

Also read your info about bagged tea. Problem is that I don’t find it with the unusual ingredients Yogi Tea has in it.
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« Reply #9 on: Mar 28, 2024 01:35 am »

It's good you can pause and catch your self. I just wrote about this in a separate topic.

Concerning tea bags- not all tea bags are dangerous. But a lot sell their tea bags with a plastic glue to keep things sealed which at high temperatures it seeps out into the water as microplastics. One study showed 11.6 billion microplastic particles per cup- and excessive microplastics interferes with your hormones.

They say it's basically like boiling a plastic bottle in hot water and then drinking the water. Teas imported from China and India with less regulations also have tons of pesticides. One study showed a tea from Ethiopia to have DDT, a pesticide that is banned in the states.

The big offenders are considered:
Tetley
Celestial Seasonings
Twinnings
Uncle Lee's
Lipton
Signal
King Cole 


I would share the information with you but I can't copy and paste it over so this is me transcribing it for you. I get my information from the evil food supply channel:
https://www.youtube.com/@EvilFoodSupply

And, if you want to support a local Houston tea shop you can buy amazing high quality loose leaf tea here:
https://thepathoftea.com/

Thanks  Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: Mar 28, 2024 09:43 pm »

Thanks guys.
Currently I do, on average, 8 ounces of cold brew coffee every morning. I make it myself, bottle it, and give some away to friends and neighbors. People love it. I use organic beans and mountain valley spring water. I brew for up to 38 hours.
Eventually I will temper my addiction,  for now I've made some* peace with where I'm at. Life's a journey.

Eric, what's your recipe for cold brew? If the conversion is right, 8 American fluid ounces should be about a cup of fluid (about 2.4 deciliters), you really brew a cup at a time?
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« Reply #11 on: Mar 29, 2024 01:00 am »

Hi Mccoy, I use a rotational blend of beans that I experiment with. My ratio is 1 cup coffee to two cups water. My current set up is 2 Mason jars, 1 Mason jar holds 2 cups coffee and 4 cups water and yields about  seven 8oz bottles. I buy the beans, the bottles and the spring water. I tried attaching a picture and will take one of the mason jars later.

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« Reply #13 on: Mar 29, 2024 01:02 am »

It doesn't allow me to attach multiple
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« Reply #14 on: Mar 29, 2024 10:45 am »

Thanks Eric, do you have any idea about the weight ratio of coffee to water? For example, 125 grams coffee, 250 grams of water, which would be a 1/2 ratio, this is the usual convention used by coffee geeks, which makes it easy to replicate the recipe.
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