Evangelical leaders lose influence as followers find new savior in Trump | Sat,

[Jitendra Hydonus]

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As MAGA devotion to Donald Trump grows within the evangelical community, once politically powerful religious leaders are losing sway over followers who have convinced themselves that Trump is the new savior.

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Hi Steve 

Nope, not kidding. This is the current revelation and conclusion I have come to. Whether you agree or disagree with Trump, you are being drawn closer to your personal faith thanks to his incarnation.

So it would seem!

Cheers friend.

What is happening is that I’ve actually been drawn away from my faith, because of his incarnation, because I find myself drawn into futile conversations like this one, instead of meditation and spiritual subjects.

Highly doubtful Steve- clearly there's a lesson to learn. All is well and in accordance to divine plan. Maybe one day you won't feel a victim of your own behavior either. Personal opinion? You like to debate. So you disagree with what I say? So be it. I'm not stopping you from practicing the things you want or believe in. I've seen you blame others for your misery. This is not a practice I agree with.

You want to talk politics but when the conversation doesn't align with your opinions suddenly you've invested too much and can't do the things you want to.

Do you feel the need to control the views allowed on this site? It seems you've created quite a conundrum for yourself. The answer is very simple. Agree to disagree, and continue to focus on the things that matter to you.

Your fears of this website being a "right wing political conspiracy" site. This is your anxiety. Let people choose for themselves. The title is spiritualportal. Maybe it's time to take a break and find some threads that actually interest you.

Friend and Brother

I include your last response here about Fuhrer Trump. Since that response, I have personally counted the posts I’ve made here at the site. I have made 15 posts unrelated to the Fuhrer. This one I include because it has a spiritual and religious significance, and is unrelated to your/our political concerns quoted above.

You need not worry about ‘my perceived misery’ let us pray for one another and not project any misery on each other. Let us instead be kind to one another and wish for the best for one another. I have done what I really desire, enjoy and strive for in the last 15 posts. That is to take an interest in others here at the site and write about the main thrust of our interests, and not the misery, but the joy we share with one another.  I do think, though, that making people into ‘saviors’ who do not deserve any such accolades is an important concern of our spiritual awareness and should not be ignored in our misconceptions and opinions, as we look at all aspects of our opinions, behaviors and life experiences.

Jitendra

[guest587]

Good morning- I see you're back at wanting to talk about Trump.

I don't care if you wish to share your ideas and opinions about the man-

You've only solidified my rationale, that his incarnation is bringing people closer to their Faith.

When I say that, I mean- everyone has a personal religion they are discovering as they Grow closer to God. Some people don't even call that something God or that something religion, but they do develop in spiritual maturity. Some call it an ideal. But there is always an opportunity to learn. Trump is such an incarnation, whether you agree with him or disagree with him, he serves as a catalyst for millions of people. The time we find ourselves in, is an opportunity to grow closer in our Faith. This is a true statement. The opportunity is always there, especially in our suffering.

My only hope is you don't feel so worried about others opinions at the portal about Trump that you can not meditate or discuss spiritual subjects as you have stated in quotes above. You have since had to count your post before engaging back in the subject that once bothered you so.

I congratulate you on this practice of yours, maybe it is necessary if you feel you are being robbed of those things you mentioned. Or if you feel the website is becoming too one sided in its views. Maybe you are teaching us what to do should we ever feel as you did not so long ago?

I maintain the belief that much of what you share about president Trump is not necessarily the truth and that there is a lot of propaganda and vilification because Trump challenges the establishment. So I share my own interest in that regard, where applicable.

But more importantly, I feel indeed we are being drawn closer to our personal faith as a spiritual practice because of him. Whether you mean to be or not, you seem drawn to him and the type of news you share about him. It must be for a reason, karmically speaking? Maybe you have some serious desire to fulfill and aren't fully aware of...? Maybe there are lessons in all of this that help us grow spiritually?

So again, please remember you have free will and can choose to meditate or not.

I say this because your words at the time were perceived as a plea for help, as if you were not able to do those things. Now if you say, of course I am able- then perhaps you would voice differently, in the midst of a disagreeable opinion?

Jai Guru

[Jitendra Hydonus]

There are many things you do in life that you are blessed  if you do and blessed if you don’t. Sound familiar? Just replace a word and see what differences it can make 🟣🕚🤓

I have left many responses to your threads and posts here Eric. They are of interest to me and you are of interest to me. Let me know when you have time to read one or two.

[guest587]

I like that!! Truly we are blessed.  🙂
Okay brother, I will.

Have a great day.