Message #24105

[mccoy]

Steve yes, I agree that counting may disrupt an initial state of bliss.

Personally I find it beneficial and when the timespan between breaths gets longer, there I feel the peace and do not need to coutn since the breath is still. So I find I can conciliate the two. Besides, right now it's giving me motivation, which I badly need.

As to Kryia and Joty, after these techniques I do not count breaths, since we are not practicing HS and breaths per minute are not a basic part of meditation proper. It may be useful to count the heart rate though, since a lowered heart rate leads to prathayara, and maybe this could be our addictional experimentation.

I agree that balance is needed in these experiments, I find I can count without identifying with the count itself and the counting helps me to focus on the technique.