The Dark Ages of Vaccine Information

[guest587]

"It is time for the profession of medicine, and society as a whole, to come out of the Dark Ages on this topic. It is time for an open, forthright reevaluation of vaccines and their role in public health." ~Clayton J. Baker, MD

Here is the trouble with vaccines, in 10 sentences:

Like “antibiotics,” “vaccines” are a large and diverse class of medicines, and as with all large classes of medicines, different products in the class work by different mechanisms, some being quite effective while others are ineffective, some being reasonably safe for appropriate human use while others are fraught with side effects and toxicities, and therefore to assume that any large class of medicines – including vaccines – is categorically “safe and effective,” is naïve, illogical, false, and dangerous.


While the full extent of vaccine toxicity is undetermined, it is a historical fact that numerous vaccines have been proven to be highly toxic and even deadly to patients, via multiple pathophysiological mechanisms, including: a) direct contamination of the vaccine (e.g. the Cutter Incident), b) disease caused by unintended, pathological immune response to the vaccine (e.g. Guillain–Barré syndrome caused by the swine flu vaccine), c) unintended contraction and/or transmission of the disease the vaccine was designed to prevent, caused by the vaccine itself (e.g. the current oral polio vaccine), and d) vaccine toxicity of unknown or uncertain cause (e.g. intestinal intussusception with the rotavirus vaccine, and fatal blood clots with the Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine).


In fact, the known toxicity of vaccines is so well-established that a Federal law – the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act (NCVIA) of 1986 (42 U.S.C. §§ 300aa-1 to 300aa-34) was passed to specifically exempt vaccine manufacturers from product liability, based on the legal principle that vaccines are “unavoidably unsafe” products.


Since the 1986 NCVIA act protecting vaccine manufacturers from liability, there has been a dramatic increase in the number of vaccines on the market, as well as the number of vaccines added to the CDC vaccine schedules, with the number of vaccines on the CDC Child and Adolescent schedule rising from 7 in 1986 to 21 in 2023.


Of the 21 vaccines on the 2023 CDC Child and Adolescent Immunization Schedule, only a small minority (e.g. measles, mumps, rubella, varicella, and HiB) are capable of providing genuine herd immunity, a fact that negates the common, population-based arguments for mandating the other vaccines, which comprise the sizable majority of the vaccines on the schedule.


The pharmaceutical industry has established an almost unimaginable degree of media control, institutional influence, and regulatory capture, via its funding of other entities, as it is a) the largest industry lobby in Washington, DC, b) the second largest industry in TV advertising, c) a major source of personal revenue for high-level HHS “alphabet soup” agency bureaucrats, many of whom hold patent and royalty rights on pharmaceutical products, d) a major funder of influential physician organizations (e.g. the American Academy of Pediatrics and prominent medical journals, and e) involved in payment-based incentivization of practicing physicians, who frequently receive monetary bonuses for high rates of vaccination in their patient panels.


The COVID-19 mRNA vaccines were developed and administered to the public a) much faster and with much less testing than any other vaccines on the market, b) under Emergency Use Authorization, c) utilizing a technological platform that had never seen commercial use before, and, despite generating reports of vaccine-related deaths and serious adverse events at much higher rates than traditional vaccines, and despite the fact that they have been removed from the pediatric market in multiple other developed countries, the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines have already been placed on the CDC Child and Adolescent Immunization Schedule, just a little over 2 years after their introduction to the public.


There has been no systematic public accounting by the CDC (or any of the HHS agencies) for the more than 35,000 reported COVID-19 vaccine-related deaths and more than 1,500,000 reported COVID-19 vaccine-related adverse events reported as of July 7, 2023, to the CDC’s own Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), nor for the corresponding numbers of COVID vaccine-related deaths and adverse events reported to Eudravigilance (the European Union’s equivalent to VAERS), even as the CDC continues to strongly promote these vaccines for use, including placing them on the CDC Child and Adolescent Immunization Schedule.


By labeling the novel COVID mRNA products as “vaccines,” the definition of the term “vaccine” has become so broadened that essentially any medication that induces an immune response against a disease may now be dubbed a “vaccine,” thereby shielding pharmaceutical companies from liability under the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 to a previously unimagined extent.


Vaccine mandates thereby compel citizens to submit to medical treatments a) that are regarded under Federal law to be “unavoidably unsafe,” b) that because they are unavoidably unsafe, their manufacturers are protected by Federal law from liability for harm done to citizens, c) whose manufacturers and government agencies nevertheless promote publicly as “safe and effective,” in direct contradiction to their legal status as “unavoidably unsafe,” and d) that have increased tremendously in number in recent decades, and, with mRNA technology and a broadened definition of the term “vaccine,” stand to multiply at an even greater rate in the future.


I hope these 10 sentences will help the unconvinced to reconsider the central dogma surrounding vaccines. We, as a society, need to reject the article of faith that vaccines are fundamentally “safe and effective.”

Vaccines, due to their unavoidably unsafe nature, should NEVER be mandated, and a thorough, product-by-product accounting of the individual vaccines needs to be done outside of government agencies.

For those asking for solutions, read the rest of this article...
https://brownstone.org/articles/solutions-to-vaccine-troubles-in-ten-sentences/

https://rumble.com/vk2cid-crimes-against-humanity-committed-in-covid-plandemic.-robert-kennedy-jr..html

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Military Whistleblower Exposes Huge Heart Failure Spike in Vaxxed Personnel

In January, Macie and his wife took a report of the data he collected from DMED and traveled to Washington D.C. to blow the whistle.

The report shows that diagnoses of myocarditis jumped 130.5 percent in 2021 when compared to the average from the years 2016 to 2020.

The data also showed spikes in diagnoses of pulmonary embolism (41.2 percent), blood clots in the lungs, ovarian dysfunction (38.2 percent), and “complications and ill-defined descriptions of heart disease” (37.7 percent).

https://slaynews.com/news/whistleblower-spike-heart-failure-military-vaxxed-personnel/

[guest587]

"According to yearly excess death data, available at phinancetechnologies.com, the years 2020 and 2021 had negative excess mortality rates, at -9% and -7%, respectively. This means that the death rate among children in that age group was less than anticipated for those years.

These rates dramatically shifted to 16% more deaths than anticipated in 2022 and a projected 22% more deaths than anticipated in 2023. Dowd blamed this rise in mortality on the COVID-19 vaccine rollout for this age group, which commenced in September 2021 for 12 to 15-year-olds and April 2022 for 5 to 11-year-olds."
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/09/excess-mortality-just-got-even-worse-ed-dowd/

[mccoy]

Eric, the data about mortality were clear from the beginning. When I saw the data on the cruise ships, I was relieved. This is a very infective but little-lethal virus, except for the elders and fragile, I thought.

It turned out that the virus was actually dangerous to the higher age group and some people with particular conditions suffered.

The response of governments may have been justified at the beginning, due to uncertainty and fear. Surely it was not justified after the vaccine was created.

They kept imposing lockdowns even after vaccinations, kept imposing a 3rd booster shot, kept the mandatory vaccination for all and went on terrorizing people. They also suppressed the dissenting voices, like in dictatorial countries. I was amazed, but it happened.

Italy was the country with the most draconian measures, it had the higher mortality and its economy was the most penalized. Not a very good outcome I'd say.

Aside from that, if I may ask, why are you still ruminating about that dark period?

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Eric, the data about mortality were clear from the beginning. When I saw the data on the cruise ships, I was relieved. This is a very infective but little-lethal virus, except for the elders and fragile, I thought.

It turned out that the virus was actually dangerous to the higher age group and some people with particular conditions suffered.

The response of governments may have been justified at the beginning, due to uncertainty and fear. Surely it was not justified after the vaccine was created.

They kept imposing lockdowns even after vaccinations, kept imposing a 3rd booster shot, kept the mandatory vaccination for all and went on terrorizing people. They also suppressed the dissenting voices, like in dictatorial countries. I was amazed, but it happened.

Italy was the country with the most draconian measures, it had the higher mortality and its economy was the most penalized. Not a very good outcome I'd say.

Aside from that, if I may ask, why are you still ruminating about that dark period?

Ruminating? Oh no 🙈 not Eric. No , not him. 😂

[guest587]

Thank you McCoy for helping me realize something.

I owe you an apology Steve.

Steve, I respect your right to hold a different opinion that my own.

I may not agree with others here, but I respect their right to expression. The COVID tyranny involved censorship to an extreme degree.

So, all this anti-trump rhetoric we've endured over the years on this forum- well, you have every right to call people out you disagree with.

Even if I find some of those views BS.

I have every right to call out BS or voice a disagreement, if I so choose. A problem here is some people would prefer we just shut up.

So for those reasons I apologize. I'm not going to tell you how to spend your time.

Now to the COVID crimes against humanity, this is one of the biggest atrocities committed against humanity that I've lived to witness. I'm not the only one who feels this way, and it takes others to voice their grievances to bring about a change in the way this goes down. Do we allow it to happen again? This is the kind of crime worthy of Nuremberg trials.

Yes Italy had it bad, but I think there are places that had it just as bad or worse. Australia and Canada to name some.

I won't let up on this topic, you can disagree until your face turns blue or you can focus your energy elsewhere.

Me, and millions of others, are going to do what we feel is right. And I feel it is important to remind people this was a bioweapon released from Wuhan in order to depopulate and bring about a digital ID.

The social credit score, vax pass style system is slavery.

[mccoy]

T... And I feel it is important to remind people this was a bioweapon released from Wuhan in order to depopulate and bring about a digital ID.

Well, if it was an intentional release to depopulate the world, that has been a colossal failure, but I do not think the Chinese have been so foolish to release a non-lethal virus to make the world population plummet down, they might have released something with one third the lethality of Ebola and the world would be a ruin now.

It's more likely that it was an accidental release.

[guest587]

It may be, but it was a necessary step in order to roll out the experimental injection that is one of the worse "vaccines" with serious adverse effects. We're just now gathering insight into long term data. The US is responsible for the release of the virus, our gain of function research was relocated to Wuhan where it "escaped." Accidental or not, they told the public it came from the wet market. Then they said there was no gain of function. Even this illegitimate president said if you get the shot you aren't going to get COVID. All lies, and everything they've done in between warrants serious discussion. Considering this very event had been war gamed, it is not far fetch to think any of this is intentional. I will share Francis Boyle later. Do we show leniency for those who would deny us basic goods and services because we listened to the doctors they censored? Because we chose not to accept an experimental injection with no long term data available for us to make an informed decision?

[Jitendra Hydonus]

It may be, but it was a necessary step in order to roll out the experimental injection that is one of the worse "vaccines" with serious adverse effects. We're just now gathering insight into long term data. The US is responsible for the release of the virus, our gain of function research was relocated to Wuhan where it "escaped." Accidental or not, they told the public it came from the wet market. Then they said there was no gain of function. Even this illegitimate president said if you get the shot you aren't going to get COVID. All lies, and everything they've done in between warrants serious discussion. Considering this very event had been war gamed, it is not far fetch to think any of this is intentional. I will share Francis Boyle later. Do we show leniency for those who would deny us basic goods and services because we listened to the doctors they censored?

Not a fan of Biden Eric but he was elected by more the 5 million votes and he won the electoral college as well. Over whelming victories to a poor loser.

“Together, vice-president-elect Harris and I earned 306 electoral votes,” Biden said, speaking from Wilmington, Delaware, noting that he has won by the same margin as Donald Trump in 2016.

Biden won the electoral college by the same amount Trump did in 2016. Trump called that a “landslide”, Biden remarked.

The Guardian

Steve, you made yourself clear and in a way, I agree with your reasonings but I'm afraid I'll have to stop here, since I don't live in the States, I could not follow all the vicissitudes of D. Trump and his presidency and I must trust you with your details.

I just think it's time to move on; sometimes, if I can say that and you take no offense, you seem too obsessed with him.

It would be much easier mccoy if we didn’t have people making comments about; an “ illegitimate president “ even I did not say such remarks when Trump was elected. These people will continue with their fake news into the next election. Trump and his cult worshippers will never accept he lost. Hopefully Eric will admit his defeat,when it is overwhelmingly obvious again.

[guest587]

Yes, Biden also got the most votes of any president- ever.

A laughable "fact" quickly silenced by the horrifying "reality."

Also... Here is an interview from 2020 with Dr. Francis Boyle

https://madmaxworld.tv/watch?id=5e3ded1680b7730025470ad3

Dr. Francis Boyle accurately called this a bioweapon with gain of function and speculated it "escaped" from the Wuhan lab(to your credit mccoy)- at a time we were told otherwise, this truth(which was at one point called misinformation and fact checked by trusted authorities) was only recently accepted as common knowledge(years later) thanks to the very people who would not just "accept" the "reality" these "trusted authorities" continually hammered onto the public- they would not forget about it- they would not shut up, and that's a good thing.

Doctors, lawyers and journalist who pushed against the grain were vilified, common folk were called all kinds of name and were hated by their fellow man for not, "letting it go" and just, "going along" with what appears to be phase 1 of a futuristic slave system.

Correction:
A member here was physically assaulted from behind for not being 6 feet apart from the assailant. 

[mccoy]

It would be much easier mccoy if we didn’t have people making comments about; an “ illegitimate president “ even I did not say such remarks when Trump was elected. These people will continue with their fake news into the next election. Trump and his cult worshippers will never accept he lost. Hopefully Eric will admit his defeat,when it is overwhelmingly obvious again.

Eric, as an outsider, I can see that Steve has a point here. Trump has been voted for the concept he proposed (MAGA), but then he was not re-elected, maybe he made some mistakes, and when he insisted that he actually won and did not discourage a mob from assaulting Capitol Hill, he lost all credibility.

Again as an outsider, I think both presidents, Trump and Biden, have not given their best to the nation, I hope someone else will show up with real political skills, pragmatistic view and moral values.

In the meanwhile, I believe you guys might perhaps cease pondering about all the negativities about these two guys and pray that some God-inspired person will serve as the next POTUS.

[mccoy]

And Eric, I have a podcast episode you will certainly like, Dr. John Ioannidis, the eminent epidemiologist and mathematician, who received death threats for speaking up about his scientific observations about the non-lethality of the virus. Interviewed after the pandemic, he recounts what happened. He has been very generous with those who wanted to crucify him.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

It would be much easier mccoy if we didn’t have people making comments about; an “ illegitimate president “ even I did not say such remarks when Trump was elected. These people will continue with their fake news into the next election. Trump and his cult worshippers will never accept he lost. Hopefully Eric will admit his defeat,when it is overwhelmingly obvious again.

Eric, as an outsider, I can see that Steve has a point here. Trump has been voted for the concept he proposed (MAGA), but then he was not re-elected, maybe he made some mistakes, and when he insisted that he actually won and did not discourage a mob from assaulting Capitol Hill, he lost all credibility.

Again as an outsider, I think both presidents, Trump and Biden, have not given their best to the nation, I hope someone else will show up with real political skills, pragmatistic view and moral values.

In the meanwhile, I believe you guys might perhaps cease pondering about all the negativities about these two guys and pray that some God-inspired person will serve as the next POTUS.

Brother mccoy I think 🤔 you have approached me/us from
many different angles to address your view of our present state of consciousness regarding our differences. This last paragraph above hit the nail squarely on its head for me. Not sure I will put this recognition into practice but I will attempt to do so.

[guest587]

Hi Mccoy,

Trump actually asked people to go home, and peacefully. He asked people to respect the law. It was a coup- and there was no help from people like Nancy Pelosi. We have proof there were FBI insiders leading the charge. Fact checkers will tell you that Trumps claims are bogus, like requesting additional troops for January 6th. But as you can see in this thread, fact checkers are not the ultimate authority. Take this image for example,



I remember a time fact checkers were saying things that were solely in place to defend mask mandates and lockdowns. Fact checkers aren't here to tell you the truth.

A Guide to Understanding the Hoax of the Century
Thirteen ways of looking at disinformation

By Jacob Siegel

PROLOGUE: THE INFORMATION WAR
In 1950, Sen. Joseph McCarthy claimed that he had proof of a communist spy ring operating inside the government. Overnight, the explosive accusations blew up in the national press, but the details kept changing. Initially, McCarthy said he had a list with the names of 205 communists in the State Department; the next day he revised it to 57. Since he kept the list a secret, the inconsistencies were beside the point. The point was the power of the accusation, which made McCarthy’s name synonymous with the politics of the era.

For more than half a century, McCarthyism stood as a defining chapter in the worldview of American liberals: a warning about the dangerous allure of blacklists, witch hunts, and demagogues.

Until 2017, that is, when another list of alleged Russian agents roiled the American press and political class. A new outfit called Hamilton 68 claimed to have discovered hundreds of Russian-affiliated accounts that had infiltrated Twitter to sow chaos and help Donald Trump win the election. Russia stood accused of hacking social media platforms, the new centers of power, and using them to covertly direct events inside the United States.

None of it was true. After reviewing Hamilton 68’s secret list, Twitter’s safety officer, Yoel Roth, privately admitted that his company was allowing “real people” to be “unilaterally labeled Russian stooges without evidence or recourse.”

The Hamilton 68 episode played out as a nearly shot-for-shot remake of the McCarthy affair, with one important difference: McCarthy faced some resistance from leading journalists as well as from the U.S. intelligence agencies and his fellow members of Congress. In our time, those same groups lined up to support the new secret lists and attack anyone who questioned them.

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/guide-understanding-hoax-century-thirteen-ways-looking-disinformation

As for the next POTUS, who is to say we can trust the results when we have an illegitimate President? I will still vote, and I am hoping for RFK JR. But I do not rule out Trump as a contender. Who knows if he will even get his chance.

The best thing we can do, with presidencies and covid tyranny, is pray for discernment and learn to listen to our intuition. I am ashamed to admit that I sometimes defy my own intuition, and the results are usually a misery making experience as a result of satisfying some lesser desire. I do hope this year... Right now, I can hone my discernment and really trust my intuition. My intuition is an incredible power. Yours is too. But I don't think I've taken the time to learn how to develop and grow alongside it. So... Now is such an opportunity.

Thank you for sharing Dr. John Ioannidis, seems death threats come about by speaking truth. How unfortunate.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Eric, the data about mortality were clear from the beginning. When I saw the data on the cruise ships, I was relieved. This is a very infective but little-lethal virus, except for the elders and fragile, I thought.

It turned out that the virus was actually dangerous to the higher age group and some people with particular conditions suffered.

The response of governments may have been justified at the beginning, due to uncertainty and fear. Surely it was not justified after the vaccine was created.

They kept imposing lockdowns even after vaccinations, kept imposing a 3rd booster shot, kept the mandatory vaccination for all and went on terrorizing people. They also suppressed the dissenting voices, like in dictatorial countries. I was amazed, but it happened.

Italy was the country with the most draconian measures, it had the higher mortality and its economy was the most penalized. Not a very good outcome I'd say.

Aside from that, if I may ask, why are you still ruminating about that dark period?

I believe mccoy’s last (see above ☝️ ) sentence above is divine council to both of us Eric . There is something morbid and with an octopus 🐙 grip on consciousness that keeps us holding on to past grievances. However, saying so is cheep. Walking our talk takes us to a totally different level. I at times find myself ruminating and observe such behavior and it’s precursors and conditioning influences. I have also witnessed how such dark presences vaporize from our environment when we ourselves do not give them the power of listening and involvement in those dark spirits who are caught in the web of entanglement. Do I think I’m free of them? No but the whole witnessing factor is taking place and I’m attempting to admonish such shadowy presences. I am perfectly aware that it is easy for me to make my observations about someone else but fail to concede that I have my rational for discussing my own dark thoughts.