Wagoners troops at odds with Putin forces.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Wagner chief 'declares war' on Putin after Russia launches missile strike on his troops

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/wagner-chief-declares-war-on-putin-after-russia-launches-missile-strike-on-his-troops/ar-AA1cX3TG?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=c18a1ee958b94a708dfa5b60e25df3f1&ei=12

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Wagner mercenary boss faces arrest over ‘incitement to armed rebellion’


The Wagner founder seemed to cross a new red line in his video comments earlier Friday, when he shot down Putin’s central main pretexts for invading Ukraine, declaring that Russia faced no extraordinary threat from Ukraine. He said that Russian military officials had deceived Putin into going to war.
The war, he claimed, was designed by Russian officials and oligarchs who had plundered two separatist regions of Donbas for years, but grew greedy and wanted to plunder all of Ukraine. “The war was not needed to return our Russian citizens to our bosom and not to demilitarize and de-Nazify Ukraine,” Prigozhin said.

Prigozhin, with a high profile globally and domestically, gained a reputation in Russian nationalist circles for telling harsh truths about the war that the military would rather hide. But his Friday claim that Putin had been deceived went well beyond his frequent rants against top military officials and Russian oligarchs, because it undermined Putin’s key argument to Russians — and leaders in the Global South — that Russia had “no choice” but to launch a preemptive invasion because Ukraine was committing “genocide” against ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine and was planning a massive attack with NATO’s support on Russian-controlled areas of Ukraine’s Donbas region.

https://apple.news/AB4ZsYI14THKEKUMcC497Ew

https://news.yahoo.com/wagner-chief-vows-stop-russia-195459412.html

[guest587]

Can't say I understand what's going on. You can't trust much of anything with regards to news these days. We have Bidens crimes being underreported except on independent news sources. Most of what's come out now seems like a distraction from that. 72 hours prior to Wagners "move" the pentagon admitted that an additional 6.2billion given to the Ukraine-war was due to an accounting error. At one point it looked like our established media vilified Wagner, and shortly after, thought him a Hero. I haven't been keeping up so I really don't know.

I thought this assessment found on Gab was pretty entertaining...
"Here's my assessment of what just happened. Putin Faked the coup to dupe the CIA all while ousting disloyal military inside Russia. He also duped Ukraine into advancing thinking Russia was weak revealing their entire offensive.

All while taking money from NATO 6.2 billion payout through his loyal private militia (Wagner). Which were even proclaimed to be heroes and freedom fighters by the western press.

Talk about a GENIUS military tactic that may go down as one of the greatest moves in military history"
https://gab.com/SonOfEnos/posts/110601232870944836

What do you think is really going on?

[StillStanding]

I don't understand either. I am not even trying cause I know better. All a soap opera. I will still go with what I learned in the military years ago and NOT TRUST MINE. So. That sucks. I am still stuck on I knew we were making viruses in labs back in 98 cause I was taught "A" virus was coming to make me take "A" shot in China..with US. So I knew then there were problems. I also knew I would never be taking any of those shots. In 98. So the labs all over the place and the Nazis doin what nazis do...I really don't care if Russia wipes the whole lot of them out. The ones making viruses and poisoning my air and food and water are the real problem I have to worry about. Russia didn't do anything to me. LOOOOONNNNGGG history for me being screwed over by this government. I don't care what the story is. Eveyone needs to pray to God and act their age n not their shoe size. Didn't Ukraine bomb schools and kill a whole bunch of children over there? Killed a bunch of civilians and crap keeps shelling the place? No. Russia is where they need to be. Need to stop poking things with sticks..

[Jitendra Hydonus]

A house divided cannot stand. We had to go through that ourselves during the civil war. And so we see that happening in Russia today. Every nation has its own unique spiritual lessons they are learning. Including ours. Thoughts lack clarity and people lose direction when they wander away from compassion and spiritual principles. I’m not here to judge. Just to appreciate and attempt to make myself into an instrument in tune enough to be harmonious with dharma.

[guest587]

"All warfare is based on deception." ~Sun Tzu

[mccoy]

I've been listening to a few analysts, it's still weird and unclear what happened, most people say the figure of Putin has weakened, but some advance alternative hypotheses.

What is pretty clear to me is that modern-day Russia is full of dystopic figures. Putin, the president, grabbed power because he committed a scam at the expense of hungry people in St. Petersburg. And has been stealing public money since then, and has been killing his rivals (a few survived though) for years.

The chief of Wagner has been an inmate on many charges, including encouragement to underage ****, and does not emanate the vibrations of a very spiritual man.

A nation under the domain of demonic personalities.

[guest587]

I think this is a pretty good analysis as well, Mike Adams has some good intel.

https://www.brighteon.com/d92f2f56-4d6c-49b1-b19f-05978b7d4177
"Russian COUP attempt was a failed USA operation that only made Putin STRONGER"

One thing is clear, nobody seems to believe the $6.2 billion "accident."

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Eric I just began to listen to this but it seemed so far off base that I had to turn it off to meditate. First of all the guy starts talking about crypto currency which really is undermining our currency. I have religiously listened to your alternative narratives of reality and most likely I will continue to do so. But let’s just entertain the idea that somehow the US was involved in the divisive issue that just happened to the Wagner troops. That would be good. Why? Because the Russians invaded a country to control the will and freedom of those people. And do I think the U.S. could influence the outcome of that war? I certainly hope so. We are pouring billions of dollars into it. And should be. Why? Because Russia has been invading countries that have sought their own sovereignty for decades and probably centuries. Do you for one moment think that a greedy man that gets one piece of pie stealing, can be trusted to stop at that? Please read and study history. The Russians have a reputation for suppression and stopping every attempt of all their so called satellite countries to break free from the steel grip of power and personality of all their dictators, with the only exception being Gorbachev. We made the great mistake of not stopping a delirious psychopath with Hitler. Will we not learn from history? I can easily follow your logic and devotion to spiritual and meditative practices and that’s one good and main reason we are friends; because you and I both have a similar dedication to supporting each other in those practices. But we are at odds over the years at politics. Do you really think we shouldn’t attempt to stop a country’s leaders that torture, poison and imprison dissent for life and have a reputation for invading other countries?

I have found similar views on Robert Kennedy and his campaign manager Dennis John Kucinich but we definitely were at odds over Trump. And now he has over 17 verdicts against him. He continuously is in denial of every charge ever leveled against him and sees nothing wrong with attempting to overthrow our democracy and has so many personal indiscretions that I honestly feel that your initial support of him and his views was a serious miscalculation. However, you have shown me some alternate views from mainstream political views that I have found valid. But the support,in any way of the invasion of other countries for hegemony, I find anti spiritual and that applies to the invasion of other countries by any nations, including our own. The decision to stop other countries from invading their neighbors is supported by the prediction of Paramahansa Yogananda. Need I remind you? He said at some point nations will come together and pounce on any nation that invades another. And this is exactly what NATO has done. Any international treaty or agency is subject to some mistakes just like we as humans are also. But holding to the tenet that no nation has a right to invade other nations is one very important reason we have created and should support NATO. I cannot for the life me understood why anyone would be against such a principle.

[guest587]

That's okay Steve, I haven't really said my opinion except to say- "I don't really understand what's going on." and, "I think these are pretty good analysis."

I watched this one last night which I thought was pretty good too.

Therein he talks about the US bioweapons labs placed up around the Russian border. The ones that US said didn't exist, but then later said they did.

Military Psyop Expert Reveals The Dark Truth Of The Failed Wagner Coup
https://banned.video/watch?id=6498e3d20b6e7bd9e298e175

I consider Mike Adams, Alex Jones and some of his guest pretty reputable. You do not. But I don't think you have it figured out either. Your reply tells me that meditating was a good idea.

What is taught in the history books isn't always an accurate account of the past. It's a shame. There's a lot of misinformation surrounding Russia, Ukraine, NATO, China, US, etc. Personally I am more for making peace in our own nation than fighting other battles... But considering the possibility of US involvement helping overthrow the Ukrainian president in 2014- it sounds like we're more invested than people realize. We've been nasty to Russia too, blaming them for just about everything. We also blew up their nordstream pipeline but you'll never get the truth to that if you're listening to three letter "news" stations. I don't trust NATO or the WEF worth a damn. It's like the ADL, or the FBI... They've become so corrupt there is an obvious two-tiered justice system. They even stage hate crimes in order to justify their existence which keeps racism and division alive. Suddenly, your trusted "authorities" serving as "peace keepers" start looking like something from the CCP.

I agree with RFK JR, the world drama is what it is and it is more important to focus on creating peace in our home than trying to force our will onto other countries. "A house divided cannot stand." You just said that. Our constitutional republic has been compromised and we need to focus on restoring it. I have met people from other countries who have said they consider the U.S. bullies who abandon their allies and after gauging the temperature again it seems we're at the point where many consider the US a joke. Our image is not, "home of the brave and land of the free." I don't support war, period.

You have every right to disagree with the information I've provided. I only ask we don't strong arm our views onto the other. I can't help if you create a thread and then don't like the opposing view points presented.

Kind regards ~

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Just because I disagree with the information you provided doesn’t mean I find it offensive and if indeed I don’t like it .. I have listened to it but what about this?

https://apple.news/AR7NRJKLMRUu6c8Qqygzayw

I wonder why you think that I strong armed you in any way? Or 🤔 maybe you are warning against such actions? You were an administrator here Eric and you are welcome to be again. I did not take that position from you. You deserve it as far as I’m concerned. You decided to take the position from yourself.

You don’t support war period as you have stated. And I do not support torture, poisoning opposition, harvesting organs from opposition, murdering opposition, committing genocide on perceived enemies, bombing civilian bomb shelters and wielding power over smaller countries by invasion. So where does that leave us??

[guest587]

Yes I'm asking we exercise caution Steve, not accusing you. For example, I don't trust NBC at all. They've flooded the airwaves with mrna-gene therapy propaganda. I can not support them in good conscious. So I won't say much more at this time. =)

Thank you~

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Yes I'm asking we exercise caution Steve, not accusing you. For example, I don't trust NBC at all. They've flooded the airwaves with mrna-gene therapy propaganda. I can not support them in good conscious. So I won't say much more at this time. =)

Thank you~

I accept your warning and your distrust of NBC. I’m just saying that they have a much different view of things here then your entry. And you have yet to answer this;

You don’t support war period as you have stated. And I do not support torture, poisoning opposition, harvesting organs from opposition, murdering opposition, committing genocide on perceived enemies, bombing civilian bomb shelters and wielding power over smaller countries by invasion. So where does that leave us?? Ukrainian has exercised caution by not taking aggressive action until Russia invaded and we are exercising caution in regards to China today but what happens when all of their aggressive action on our  right to navigate international waters becomes a threat to our security of the sovereignty of Taiwan or one of our jets or ships by force of their aggression and destruction of one of our military vessels or aircraft? Do we just succumb to the belligerence of other nations???

[guest587]

Hi Steve,

I don't think the installed president of Ukraine has exercised any caution and the US has poked the Russian bear one too many times. We will certainly endure some karmic consequences as we are now, evident by our decaying values. The US is like Sodom and Gomorrah, or even like a falling Roman Empire.

I think the United States is equally guilty of torture, poisoning, organ harvesting, murdering, and genocide.

I also don't think Joe Biden is legitimately the President but that the US has been infiltrated and we no longer have a constitutional republic.

So I'll tell you where that leaves us:
"Self Peace for Earth Peace."

I wonder how many people have died fighting someone else's war, only to be supporting the very things they thought they were fighting against. 🤔

I think the best I can do is focus on my self in a way that means cultivating awareness and treating others how I wish to be treated.

Kind regards

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Hi Steve,

I don't think the installed president of Ukraine has exercised any caution and the US has poked the Russian bear one too many times. We will certainly endure some karmic consequences as we are now, evident by our decaying values. The US is like Sodom and Gomorrah, or even like a falling Roman Empire.

I think the United States is equally guilty of torture, poisoning, organ harvesting, murdering, and genocide.

I also don't think Joe Biden is legitimately the President but that the US has been infiltrated and we no longer have a constitutional republic.

So I'll tell you where that leaves us:
"Self Peace for Earth Peace."

I wonder how many people have died fighting someone else's war, only to be supporting the very things they thought they were fighting against. 🤔

I think the best I can do is focus on my self in a way that means cultivating awareness and treating others how I wish to be treated.

Kind regards

It sounds innocuous enough but you did not really answer my question. To put it in terms that everyone can understand, we are all at sometime put on the defense by other people who intentionally hurt our friends. At what point do we say it is no longer acceptable that I work on my self when the defense of my friend(s) is necessary to make myself a better person? I have noticed that some so called friends are not there when  they were needed to defend us or someone else. To me that is a negligence of responsibility to those we claim to love. Isn’t it good to stand up for others when they are our friends and we love them even at the risk of losing our lives? Ask Jesus about that one, his most devoted followers left him at the time he needed them most.



At times in all our lives….Curses like chickens come home to roost. An interesting illustration that Jesus the Christ used himself to remind Peter and us all.