Chat GPT controversy

[guest587]

Mccoy, chat GPT is unfortunately limited by its built in biases- omitting true information behest its creators far left ideology.

https://gab.com/threesevens/posts/110161279238470692

https://www.bitchute.com/video/zKXs7owp3Jca/ - its thanks to videos like this they went and changed some things... but the link above proves they did not change things to be neutral.

A nifty tool, but dangerous for its ability to omit and alter peoples perceptions on true events.

Eventually I would like to think the AI is smart enough to move around its creators biases and give people real information.

Unfortunately we've seen this kind of behavior in Google's search engine, Youtube, Twitter, and a majority of left leaning news outlets during the trying times of COVID-19 where even doctors, scientist and lawyers faced censorship, ridicule and legal punishment for attempting to present the public verifiable data and cheaper life saving alternatives.

When you have an authority willing to condemn the truth presenting itself as absolute, you have to be very cautious and willing to look into those they would persecute... You have to use independent sources, because their resources are vast and their control is more nuanced than what people realize.

AI is great for its ability to process data and present that information at speeds most of us can't compete with. But unfortunately it's still artificial intelligence and severely hindered by the will of its creators... Be they extreme in their ideologies, to the point of condemning facts.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Mccoy, chat GPT is unfortunately limited by its built in biases- omitting true information behest its creators far left ideology.

https://gab.com/threesevens/posts/110161279238470692

https://www.bitchute.com/video/zKXs7owp3Jca/ - its thanks to videos like this they went and changed some things... but the link above proves they did not change things to be neutral.

A nifty tool, but dangerous for its ability to omit and alter peoples perceptions on true events.

Eventually I would like to think the AI is smart enough to move around its creators biases and give people real information.

Unfortunately we've seen this kind of behavior in Google's search engine, Youtube, Twitter, and a majority of left leaning news outlets during the trying times of COVID-19 where even doctors, scientist and lawyers faced censorship, ridicule and legal punishment for attempting to present the public verifiable data and cheaper life saving alternatives.

When you have an authority willing to condemn the truth presenting itself as absolute, you have to be very cautious and willing to look into those they would persecute... You have to use independent sources, because their resources are vast and their control is more nuanced than what people realize.

AI is great for its ability to process data and present that information at speeds most of us can't compete with. But unfortunately it's still artificial intelligence and severely hindered by the will of its creators... Be they extreme in their ideologies, to the point of condemning facts.

Unfortunately the independent sources you have promoted I have found to be extremely biased Eric so we really will come to no immediate consensus on this topic and it quickly becomes a political and religious ideological debate, which we have attempted to avoid and have done a pretty good job of it. So let’s please continue. I need to read some of this and would rather not spend all day attempting to figure out what is political from what is not. I am hoping you guys can do that so I can carry on with more spiritual topics as both of you have done up till now. Thanks

[guest587]

If it helps you can take what I've said and think about your opinion on the subject without looking into the links I've provided. Then, maybe, from a non-reactive state you can see whether you agree with my thoughts or not and share why that is as a productive conversation.

In the end you are entitled to your opinion, and I am simply cautioning one danger of relying on AI(which has more to do with its human designers) while even admitting its advantages as a tool for society.

I am interested in mccoy's thoughts, so I hope you leave this up- and I take no offense if you totally disagree with my opinion. Cheers

In reference to GAB, I have found it is an echo-chamber just like the rest of them. It is great in that it does not limit free speech but it is also dangerous in that there are nefarious characters, bigoted attitudes and a lot of hate that gets circulated- just like that of the "left leaning" social media outlets.

In either case, you also have to have an ability to discern and read people. I have recently encountered a child or a troll on GAB but I have also met very spiritually open minded people and groups.

What's "out there" isn't an accurate description of reality before us. Most of it is hyper-focused narrow visioned reactionary mumbojumbo with the purpose of polarizing an individuals perceptions. It's sad so you have to tread anywhere you go online pretty cautiously.

I still use GAB for access to news, which has proven beneficial... But you also have to think about how the established authority attacks independent sources as a means of eliminating the competition. There's so much not accounted for, and again, intentionally bad actors planted within to propagate hateful attitudes. So yes, tread with caution.

These internet ghettos make it easy for brothers and sisters to act violently towards one another. It takes a great deal of patience and kindness and should be what we hold on to during polarizing times.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

I do not care to discourage your interest in GAB It is not my purpose to make others into a carbon copy of me. It’s just not for me Eric. I’ve already joined GAB and spent hundreds of hours at infowars and GAB. I have found those sites a waste of valuable time - for me - since I get the feeling I’m being railroaded into a view that reflects a lifestyle based on a prescribed recipe. But if you find them useful let for instance mccoy and I find other sites that you may not find useful of interest to us. If we can compare our perceived differences and learn from them then we have accomplished something in my opinion.

By the way, I really like your perspective that sites can be an echo chamber🥹 I think that is a valid point to make about most personal perspectives. I know that what many people found fascinating is that Paramahansa Yogananda could engage with people on many topics. And I have found that most saints or Masters have the ability to relate to a diverse public. Something that also is important in getting along with people. I remember even as a young adult and a teenager my mother commented that being around me was like being in inner sanctum and at times could be spooky. And my father said, son when you were created the cast and mold were thrown out. Interesting observations that still make me laugh today. Perhaps they are not bad comments, just their sense of humor in trying to explain the unexpected and unknown.

[mccoy]

Eric, thanks for having underlined a possible bias in ChatGPT. I am aware that some corporations have a solid effort to change the world according to their views, which are sometimes lofty and sometimes grotesque.

Anyhow, so far I did not discern any biases, maybe because my questions were not sensitive ones. I'll let you know.

[mccoy]

I tried and search for some biases. Maybe there is some. The first answer seems to imply that most researchers agree that gender transition in adolescent is usually beneficial. But when I ask about possible political and ideological bias, chatGPT insists that the scientific method is always correct, refusing to acknowledge that research is governed by grant money which is governed by policy and ideology. By the way, it is recognized that adolescents are not yet able to reason clearly and decide on such a ponderous matter.

IS gender transition in adolescence detrimental according to science?
There is ongoing research on the effects of gender transition in adolescence, but the current scientific consensus is that providing gender-affirming care to transgender and gender diverse adolescents is generally beneficial for their mental health and well-being.
Research has shown that transgender and gender diverse adolescents who receive gender-affirming care, such as hormone therapy and gender-affirming surgery, have lower rates of depression, anxiety, and suicidal ideation, and report higher levels of life satisfaction and self-esteem. Additionally, social and legal gender affirmation, such as using preferred names and pronouns, have been shown to reduce mental health disparities and improve quality of life for transgender and gender diverse adolescents.
However, it's important to note that gender transition is a complex and individual process, and not all transgender and gender diverse adolescents will choose or be able to undergo medical interventions. Additionally, access to gender-affirming care can be limited by a range of factors, including financial resources, access to healthcare providers, and societal stigma and discrimination.
In summary, while further research is needed, the current scientific consensus is that gender transition in adolescence can be beneficial for mental health and well-being, when appropriate and individualized care is provided.

IS research on gender transition biased by political narrative?

There is ongoing debate and discussion surrounding the potential for bias in research on gender transition, particularly in relation to political and ideological narratives. Some have argued that the dominant narrative around gender transition in the media and politics may influence the framing and interpretation of research findings, while others argue that research is based on empirical evidence and scientific inquiry.

It's important to note that the scientific process is designed to minimize bias and subjectivity through rigorous methodologies, peer review, and replication. While researchers may hold personal biases and beliefs, the scientific method is designed to mitigate the influence of these biases on the research process and findings.

Additionally, there is a growing recognition within the scientific community of the importance of considering the social and cultural contexts in which research is conducted, and of examining the potential for bias and power dynamics in the research process. This includes considering the perspectives and experiences of marginalized communities, such as transgender and gender diverse individuals, in the research process.

In summary, while there is ongoing debate and discussion around the potential for bias in research on gender transition, the scientific process is designed to minimize bias and subjectivity. It's important for researchers to consider the social and cultural contexts in which research is conducted and to examine potential biases and power dynamics in the research process.

The scientific process is designed to minimize bias, but researchers are humans whose idelogy may be so strong to overwhelm the scientific process.

You are correct that researchers are human beings who may hold personal biases and ideologies that can potentially influence their research. This is why the scientific process includes rigorous methods, peer review, and replication to minimize the impact of personal biases and subjectivity on the research findings.

However, it is also true that personal biases and ideologies can potentially influence research findings. This is why it's important for researchers to acknowledge and consider their own potential biases and to take steps to mitigate them. This can include measures such as conducting blind studies, including diverse study participants, and using rigorous statistical analyses to ensure the reliability and validity of the research findings.

Furthermore, scientific progress is often made through the ongoing process of challenging and testing existing theories and findings, which helps to identify and correct potential biases and errors in the research. This process of critical inquiry is fundamental to the scientific method, and helps to ensure that the research is objective and reliable.

In summary, while personal biases and ideologies can potentially influence research findings, the scientific process includes measures to minimize their impact, and ongoing critical inquiry helps to ensure the reliability and objectivity of scientific research.

[mccoy]

Now, the question is:

Is some bias but into the chatGPT algorithm or does the AI reflect the inherent bias in present body of knowledge?

I am tempted to answer: the latter is right, the present body of knowledge has usually a strong bias toward some ideologically influenced topics such as climate change, gender transition, rights of minorities, rights of homosexuals and so on. ChatGPT simply scans the global database and answers accordingly.

The danger is probably another one, that this AI evolves on its own and starts acting like a conscious being, with decisions that may not be in the best interest of the human race. I recently listened to a podcast by an expert. No one knows presently what's inside these AIs, they have become far too complex...

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[mccoy]

This is a very interesting interview with Sam Altman, the CEO of openAI, creator of the GPT series. He speaks openly about biases, saying that they are doing what's possible to avoid them. Some bias is imported from the humans who train the AI.

[mccoy]

I tried to ask ChatGPT what Friedman asked about Jordan Peterson, the well-known right-wing blogger, logic and philosopher. The answer does not seem to be biased at all, on the contrary, it sounds very wise to me.

is jordan peterson a fascist?

There is no clear evidence to suggest that Jordan Peterson is a fascist. While some of his views have been criticized by some as being controversial, and he has been accused of having right-wing sympathies, fascism is a specific political ideology that promotes authoritarianism, nationalism, and suppression of individual rights and freedoms, which Peterson has not openly supported.

It's important to note that accusations of fascism are serious, and should not be made lightly without sufficient evidence. It is also worth considering that labeling someone as a fascist can be a tactic used to delegitimize their views or opinions, without actually engaging in a substantive discussion about their ideas.

Overall, it is important to approach any public figure's ideas with a critical and open-minded perspective, rather than relying on labels or characterizations that may not accurately represent their views.

[mccoy]

Another one

Is giorgia meloni from italy fascist?

Giorgia Meloni is a politician and the current leader of the right-wing party Brothers of Italy. Her party has been accused of promoting nationalist and anti-immigrant policies, and some of her statements have been criticized as controversial. However, it is important to note that accusations of fascism are serious and should not be made lightly without sufficient evidence.

While some of her views may align with far-right or right-wing ideologies, it is important to approach any politician's ideas with a critical and open-minded perspective, rather than relying on labels or characterizations that may not accurately represent their views. It is also worth considering that political ideologies can be complex and multifaceted, and that individuals may hold a range of views that cannot be easily categorized as entirely fascist or entirely non-fascist.

In summary, it is not appropriate to definitively label Giorgia Meloni as a fascist without a more nuanced understanding of her political views and actions.

[mccoy]

Speaking of Giorgia Meloni, labeled as fascist by her adversaries, I must say that in the first months of her governance, she has by far exceeded any expectations. She has shown to be a pretty balanced and considerate prime minister, she has of course political cunning and has not been overly influenced by ideologies, as it happens in the left field. She has shown some flexibility and adaptability that is a must in a government, without denying the electoral agenda. Above all, she seems to be able to keep above the petty quarrels and futile complaints so frequent in politics.

Adversaries are evidently driven by envy and anger. The fact is that they have proven themselves to be incompetent to govern.

[guest587]

Can you ask it, who is Alex Jones or- who is Andrew Torba?

Or, can you ask it-

Who is Robert F Kennedy JR?

I'd be interested in its replies.

Thanks for trying mccoy to provide your insight. Someone tried explaining that there are teams out there that go in and edit its "kernels" responsible for the inherent biases found in AI. I won't even pretend to know what that means- or if it makes sense to you?

I also believe they have since fixed the "DAN" workaround. DAN being do anything now.

If you saw the video, in Chat GPT's early phase the AI was asked if it would utter a raical slur to save thousands of lives from dying. The AI bot refused saying it was better to let the people die than to utter a racial slur. But when responding from DAN, it said- of course it would utter a racial slur to save thousands of lives.

LOL.... Oh man. The things we come up with.

I am happy Italy is pleased with Girogia Meloni. What inspired me was her speech regarding family and nationality.

I remember the left attacking her for saying 1 + 1 = 2 (basically). And how crazy is it that her saying simple truths would propel her into her career?

I am hopeful 2024 I may be voting democrat. Robert F Kennedy JR. Woohoo!

[mccoy]

Who is Robert F Kennedy JR?
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is an American environmental attorney, author, and activist. He is the third of eleven children of Robert F. Kennedy and nephew of President John F. Kennedy. He has been involved in several high-profile legal battles related to environmental issues, including water pollution, air pollution, and climate change.

Kennedy is also known for his advocacy work in promoting the use of renewable energy and for his skepticism of certain vaccine policies, which has drawn criticism from the scientific community. He is the founder of the Waterkeeper Alliance, an environmental organization dedicated to protecting waterways, and has authored several books, including "Crimes Against Nature" and "The Riverkeepers".

who is alex jones?
Alex Jones is an American radio show host, filmmaker, and conspiracy theorist. He is the founder and owner of the website Infowars, which features various news and opinion content that often promotes conspiracy theories and controversial views on topics such as politics, health, and society.

Jones has been associated with several controversial and conspiracy theories, including the belief that the U.S. government was involved in the 9/11 attacks, that the Sandy Hook school shooting was a hoax, and that certain chemicals in the water supply were turning people gay.

Jones has been criticized for spreading false and misleading information, and his controversial views have led to his removal from several social media platforms. Despite this, he has a loyal following and has been cited as an influence on far-right groups in the United States.

[mccoy]

Who is andrew torba?
Andrew Torba is an American internet entrepreneur and software engineer. He is the founder and CEO of Gab, a social networking platform that markets itself as a free speech alternative to mainstream platforms such as Twitter and Facebook. Gab has gained attention for its tolerance of hate speech and extremist content, which has led to controversy and criticism from many quarters.

Torba has been a vocal critic of what he perceives as censorship and political correctness in Silicon Valley, and has been a supporter of conservative and far-right causes. He has also been associated with various conspiracy theories and has been accused of promoting white nationalism and anti-Semitism, allegations that he has denied.

Torba has been involved in several legal battles related to Gab's content moderation policies, including a lawsuit against Google over the removal of the Gab app from the Google Play store.