Sidereal Astrology

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Sidereal Ephemeris files (Fagan/Bradley)
The regular ephemerides used by Astrodienst on its website www.astro.com are based on the tropical zodiac, which starts at the Spring Equinox point. There are also sidereal astrologers, who use a zodiac based on fixed stars. Numerous different systems for sidereal astrology exist. The one most commonly used by western sidereal astrologers is the zodiac defined by the American astrologers Cyril Fagan and Donal Bradley.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

https://astrology.community/vedic-birth-chart-analysis/

I have had an interest in tropical astrology since being a teen ager. Yet like many other indoctrinations of western society that we have been conditioned by, I have also been conditioned by western views on astrology. After studying the works of Sri Yukteswar and his outlook on the Yugas I had a major turning point in my awareness of astrology and how it relates to the big picture and how we on this small planet are evolving forward through the cycles of the ages. Seeing how it does appear to reflect many sociological and cultural evolutionary activities we see that has happened in the last centuries, i have also wondered how it has impacted individuals as apart from humanity as a whole.

Therefore I am now using the sidereal system that Sri Yukteswar used to explain the evolution of human beings as a whole in putting together recent charts in a Vedic tradition, while not ignoring the attempts and discoveries of modern science that can significantly influence astronomy and astrology.  It began with the additions of the trans-Saturn planets that have affected slow evolutionary growth in us all, but to more personally extent, by connection, to the personal planets. This brings a way to channel such evolutionary energetics into personal relationships and personal perspectives. In this way we can see the affects of Pluto, Neptune and Uranus in the old souls channeling such light to others.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

It is also crucial to bear in mind that one must not judge another based merely on the combinations and never use this science for selfish purposes (BPHS). Help one another overcome issues, and pray regularly and constantly to one almighty God with all heart. In fact, most of those who are spiritually pure, are untouched by the negative indicators because the connection with Creator breaks dependence on worldly energies, including stars.

So when we recognize our creator and rise above the physical matter (Graha) that pulls and holds us down, we can amplify good effects and endure struggles in a grateful manner leading to auspicious results. According to Jyotish, the 12th house is last which shows our ultimate purpose to attain salvation through the circles/trials of life.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

By this time one should recognize that the relationship of the planets to one another in the Sidereal chart are the same as the tropical chart. What has changed is the color of the planets expression due to many of them now being in a different sign. If the signs have changed they are now in their true place in regards to to the backdrop of the stars because of the slow (24,000 years) drift of our solar system with regard to what we are experiencing with relationship to the stars.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

What is true sidereal?

The true sidereal systems consider this fact and use state-of-the-art sets or equations to identify the current positions of every zodiac sign in the sky. So in other words the room for error in this system is quite slim as compared to the tropical system which assumes that the position of stars is fixed throughout.

In the world of astrology, the most used system is the tropical one. While true sidereal astrology is a unique way of giving an individual a more in-depth insight into their birth charts because the true system uses the actual position of the stars in the sky. Now a new question arises that the position of our stars is changing slowly.

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[Jitendra Hydonus]

[mccoy]

I was interested in GPT-4's explanation of sidereal astrology, he came out with a pretty basic answer

Sidereal astrology is a system of astrology that uses the sidereal zodiac, which is based on the actual positions of the stars in the sky. In contrast, tropical astrology, the most commonly practiced form of astrology in the Western world, uses the tropical zodiac, which is based on the position of the sun relative to the earth.

The sidereal zodiac is divided into 12 equal parts, each corresponding to a specific constellation in the sky. The starting point of the sidereal zodiac is the fixed star Spica, which is located in the constellation Virgo.

In sidereal astrology, a person's birth chart is created based on the position of the planets and other celestial bodies at the time of their birth, using the sidereal zodiac. This can lead to different placements and interpretations of the planets than in tropical astrology.

Sidereal astrology is primarily practiced in India and is also used by some astrologers in the Western world who prefer its focus on the actual positions of the stars in the sky. However, it is not as widely used or recognized as tropical astrology.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Thanks mccoy; Each time we add to this thread we become more aware of all the approaches to this vast subject. Thanks mccoy …most probably, we will find more interconnections as we ply on. As for instance why Spica? And why the 30 degree allowance for each house and sign when for instance we know the signs have different widths according to where we are born. It would be very different to be born on the equator in contrast to northern Siberia. But then again 🤔 maybe from an outlook beyond the earth 🌎 perhaps the small changes do not change the interpretations. Sometimes I have more questions then answers. But often it is the right questions that bring a response.

I was interested in GPT-4's explanation of sidereal astrology, he came out with a pretty basic answer

Sidereal astrology is a system of astrology that uses the sidereal zodiac, which is based on the actual positions of the stars in the sky. In contrast, tropical astrology, the most commonly practiced form of astrology in the Western world, uses the tropical zodiac, which is based on the position of the sun relative to the earth.

The sidereal zodiac is divided into 12 equal parts, each corresponding to a specific constellation in the sky. The starting point of the sidereal zodiac is the fixed star Spica, which is located in the constellation Virgo.

In sidereal astrology, a person's birth chart is created based on the position of the planets and other celestial bodies at the time of their birth, using the sidereal zodiac. This can lead to different placements and interpretations of the planets than in tropical astrology.

Sidereal astrology is primarily practiced in India and is also used by some astrologers in the Western world who prefer its focus on the actual positions of the stars in the sky. However, it is not as widely used or recognized as tropical astrology.

[mccoy]

I have been curious to elicit various answers from different angles from GPT-4

What do you know about the precession of equinoxes and sidereal astrology?

The precession of equinoxes is a gradual shift in the position of the Earth's rotational axis, which causes the vernal equinox (the point at which the sun crosses the celestial equator from south to north) to move slowly backward through the zodiac over the course of approximately 26,000 years. This phenomenon is caused by the gravitational influence of the moon and the sun on the Earth's bulging equator, which causes the Earth's axis to wobble like a top.

Sidereal astrology is a form of astrology that takes into account the precession of equinoxes, and as a result, it uses a different zodiac system than the more commonly known tropical astrology. In sidereal astrology, the zodiac is divided into 12 equal parts, each corresponding to one of the 12 constellations that the sun appears to pass through over the course of a year. This system is based on the actual positions of the constellations relative to the Earth, rather than on the position of the vernal equinox in the tropical zodiac.

While the tropical zodiac is based on the seasons and is used in Western astrology, the sidereal zodiac is based on the actual positions of the stars and is used in Indian astrology and other forms of Eastern astrology. In sidereal astrology, the dates associated with each zodiac sign are shifted approximately one month earlier than in tropical astrology.

[mccoy]

GPT-4's responses appear quite to the point, although it makes some mistakes. For examples, from this answer it would seem that the Holy Science has been written by Parhamansa Yogananda.

Please tell me about Sri Yukteswar and the precession of equinoxes

Sri Yukteswar Giri was an Indian yogi and guru who lived from 1855 to 1936. He was a disciple of the famous Indian saint Lahiri Mahasaya and the spiritual teacher of Paramahansa Yogananda, the author of the classic spiritual book "Autobiography of a Yogi".

Sri Yukteswar was also a scholar and scientist who studied the precession of equinoxes and its impact on spiritual and astrological systems. He believed that the precession of equinoxes was a fundamental cosmic cycle that influenced the evolution of human consciousness and the spiritual development of humanity.

According to Sri Yukteswar's teachings, the precession of equinoxes is a 24,000-year cycle that is divided into 12 smaller cycles, each lasting approximately 2,000 years. Each of these 2,000-year cycles is associated with a different age or epoch of human history, and each age is characterized by a particular level of spiritual consciousness.

Sri Yukteswar's teachings on the precession of equinoxes and the ages of human history were later popularized by his disciple, Paramahansa Yogananda, in his book "The Holy Science". This book presents a unified theory of science, philosophy, and spirituality that incorporates the teachings of both the East and the West.

In summary, Sri Yukteswar was a spiritual teacher and scholar who studied the precession of equinoxes and its impact on human consciousness and spiritual development. His teachings on this subject have had a profound influence on the fields of astrology, spirituality, and philosophy.






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[mccoy]

GPT-4 readily acknowledges its mistake, at the same time correcting its vast database and making sure to use this info correctly in other future answers.

You are mistaken in that the holy science has not been written by Parahmansa Yogananda, rather by Sri Yukteswar himself

You are correct, I apologize for my mistake. "The Holy Science" was indeed written by Sri Yukteswar himself and not by Paramahansa Yogananda. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Sri Yukteswar's book "The Holy Science" outlines his teachings on the precession of the equinoxes and its relationship to human spiritual evolution. It remains a seminal work in the field of spiritual and astrological studies.