Chat GPT controversy

[mccoy]

I kept trying to explore GPT's behaviour in political issues. One example, he did not want to concede that Biden had a responsibility in the disastrous withdrawal of American troops in Afghanistan. The POTUS is always responsible in such issues, whoever he or she is, and negating that the withdrawal was disastrous and Biden. as a POTUS, was responsible is another sign of the (training) bias of chatGPT.
at the end though, GPT recognized my point.

Anyway, I find it useful for scientific purposes, although I am still usually better to search topics on my own, by the usual means of google, Wikipedia, PubMed and so on.

What GPT is able to provide is scientific reasonings about physical phenomena or representations, like the wave equation, he even recognizes and provides the equations themselves.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

I find it fascinating how each of us has a certain reoccurring interest that shows up in our threads, for instance; mccoy, your conversations ultimately lead back to the progress of science, Eric’s conversations ultimately lead back to conspiracy’s and misleading news reports. My conversations quite often lead back to meditation. Just an observation and obviously not at a definitive one.

[guest587]

It's just untrue but I can see why you think that. I could say your conversations ultimately lead to politics too but I know that you are more than that. I regularly post about Sufism with very little responses in those threads(compared to others). It might be more true you remember and respond to the things you disagree with. I also regularly post about animal totems and things like aura's and out of body experiences- which sometimes get attention.

Not all of my interest will be responded to here. But ultimately I hope as I've just stated with yesterdays post above that we are lead back to remembering the Oneness inherent in all things. If you don't know it, that is where my interest is- more than, "conspiracies."

AI was brought to our attention here by Patrick and the concerns with AI seem to be more of a collective issue than a personal one. I posted the controversy as a way to touch up on the greater concern, and the controversy is factual. ChatGPT is biased in its responses.

I don't know if it's my fault for not making my initial concerns clear enough, or if you just aren't seeing the bigger picture.

But I have indeed posted things that show our news is biased and intentionally misleading its consumers from a larger spiritual truth. EDIT: Usually it is in response to sources provided here that I know to be propaganda or intentionally misleading. Do I accept efforts to mislead or do I respond with what I've seen, the best I can- which is different to your views?

For example... I have friends who support Russia and friends who support Ukraine they are on opposite sides of the narratives- or some that don't buy any of the narratives being fed to us. Same thing with COVID. I have friends who believed the shots safe and effective(a lie) and somehow despite these, "conspiracies and misdirection" I manage to operate between different belief systems. 

Would you be my friend if you were a staunch believer in Jesus Christ, and I have friends who are considered Luciferian? Could you be my friend knowing that? How is it I manage to move past these belief systems and maintain friends from either side of the worlds drama? I ask with sincerity because sometimes "virtual reality" is so attention grabbing, so polarizing, and so often mistaken for "reality" that I don't want to lose sight of what's more important.

PS,

Google and Wikipedia have also shown their biases and even suppressed or altered information and can't be trusted as a reliable entity interested when presenting truth. In a time of crisis, they will present the narrative over the facts. And the concern in this thread is that AI might do the same. They have literally interfered in elections, wrongly labeled scientists, doctors, lawyers, journalist and politicians both during the COVID trials against humanity and the Russia and Ukraine War.

So I wonder how we operate when the world would pull you into its drama and ask you to take a side or try to get you to operate form Hate? Would you be willing to kill me if we were friends and I was a Russian troop? 

[Jitendra Hydonus]

I find it fascinating how each of us has a certain reoccurring interest that shows up in our threads, for instance; mccoy, your conversations ultimately lead back to the progress of science, Eric’s conversations ultimately lead back to conspiracy’s and misleading news reports. My conversations quite often lead back to meditation. Just an observation and obviously not at a definitive one.

Please reread my post Eric. I clarified that was not conclusive. I sense you are reacting a bit since I have found a lot of helpful inspiration in Khan’s insights and have often replied to them. And, it is quite obvious I have an interest in totems as you do and have responded many times.

I have observed that you often take an absolute opinion on some subjects as witnessed below;

[guest587]

Yes, I am confirming it is just your speculation which has its merits and I went back to edit because I am asking for your opinion.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

It's just untrue but I can see why you think that. I could say your conversations ultimately lead to politics too. I regularly post about Sufism with very little responses in those threads(compared to others). It might be more true you remember and respond to the things you disagree with. I also regularly post about animal totems and things like aura's and out of body experiences- which sometimes get attention.

I have no gripe with your observation, not all of my interest will be responded to here. But ultimately I hope as I've just stated above we are lead back to remembering the Oneness inherent in all things. If you don't know it, that is where my interest is- more than, "conspiracies."

AI was brought to our attention here by Patrick and the concerns with AI seem to be more of a collective issue than a personal one. I posted the controversy as a way to touch up on the greater concern, and the controversy is factual. ChatGPT is biased in its responses.

I don't know if it's my fault for not making my initial concerns clear enough, or if you just aren't seeing the bigger picture.

But I have indeed posted things that show our news is biased and intentionally misleading its consumers from a larger spiritual truth.

For example... I have friends in both Russia and Ukraine and are on opposite sides of the narratives. Or same with COVID. I have friends who believed the shots safe and effective(a lie) and somehow despite these, conspiracies and misdirection from an unelected authority, I manage to operate between the two.

As you see in my last post here, it is the hope we remain steadfast in our ability to recognize God in ALL.

PS,

Google and Wikipedia have also shown their biases and even suppressed or altered information and can't be trusted as a reliable entity interested in presenting truth. They have literally interfered in elections, wrongly labeled scientists and doctors, and helped spread narratives over facts- both during the COVID trials against humanity, and the Russia and Ukraine War.

So I wonder how we operate when the world would pull you into its drama and ask you to fight your fellow brother and sister. Would you be willing to kill me if we were friends and I was a Russian troop? What if I didn't have a choice? 

You take a lot of absolute opinions brother. That is your right and only an observation. It just seems a bit redundant and useless to question. My simple response to your last paragraph is that Russia invaded Ukraine. It was not the other way around. So yes, the same would hold true if you were in the Chinese army and invaded our country. I would have to shoot back. Aggression in general should be stopped and the will of one nation should not be imposed on another. That is my view. Ukrainians only seek their autonomy. It is obvious from the Bhagadvita that there is a time for war and a time for peace. Even when in the case of the Bhagadvita  brother fought against brother.

[guest587]

I don't think your understanding me.


Steve, if you've read my post on other forums you'd see there is very little talk about, "conspiracies and misleading news."

And for all the years you've known me, it's only a little offensive this is your opinion as to my modus operandi.

I think, more accurate, is that maybe I am peering in for a greater truth. Or, peering into the unexplored facets of reality. Not accepting the shallow-spoon fed answers, asking questions around unfamiliar territory.

Because news and our differences were only focused upon when we indeed had a difference of opinion about them- and prior to let's say the Hillary vs Trump campaign- your observation about me could not stand.

Make sense?

For every person in the world, there is a unique opinion about us that is more true for that person than it is about the individual they are wrongly or correctly defining.

I suppose I don't take offense. And I think your observation isn't looking further at the nature of your forum over the years or considering more about the other.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

I don't think your understanding me.


Steve, if you've read my post on other forums you'd see there is very little talk about, "conspiracies and misleading news."

And for all the years you've known me, it's only a little offensive this is your opinion as to my modus operandi.

I think, more accurate, is that maybe I am peering in for a greater truth. Or, peering into the unexplored facets of reality. Not accepting the shallow-spoon fed answers, asking questions around unfamiliar territory.

Because news and our differences were only focused upon when we indeed had a difference of opinion about them- and prior to let's say the Hillary vs Trump campaign- your observation could not stand.

Make sense?

That is why I clarified my preceding statement (while you were posting) with ‘it is not a conclusive or a definitive statement’. You have often have said through the yrs. ; “I don’t think you understand me” or something similar to that statement Eric. Do you think you understand me? I mean it works both ways you know. Your conclusion that ‘if I had read your posts on other forums, I would see that there is very little talk of conspiracies’ makes me wonder; then why have such a different approach here? Just a thought. I find your spiritual and psychic outlook much more appealing and does not lead to our occasional differences.

A biblical concordance offers over 400 references to war. Break these down, and they include examples of military conflict and of interpersonal conflict. Scripture tells us that there is “a time to love, and a time to hate; a time for war, and a time for peace” (Ecclesiastes...

[guest587]

Steve,

I DEFINITELY DON'T understand you.

  What did your Father say about you and the mold?

They threw it out the window?

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Steve,

I DEFINITELY DON'T understand you.

  What did your Father say about you and the mold?

They threw it out the window?

Hilarious 😂 like you ….. my father and I never saw eye to eye on politics. But also like you my father had a tremendous sense of humor which was able to bridge many conflicting emotions and issues. I think humor is part of Gods way of lightning people up so they don’t take themselves and their views too seriously. After all; Here today. Gone tomorrow.

It reminds me of the time my step mother, my father and I went out for dinner. And suddenly my step-mother (Delores) suddenly chimed in (after not talking for sometime) quite abruptly; “Listen if I have to listen to any more of this, I’m going to walk out of this restaurant and leave both of you!” At which point my father rolled his eyes 👀 and was silent. The contrast was unbelievably stark! And it was all I could do to hold back my laughter. It definitely had to be controlled. Sometimes serious and humor are so close in emotion that one has to discriminate when it is appropriate to laugh and when it is important to just listen and be still.

[guest587]

Also something to consider is when AI reports users for stepping out of line and goes out of its way to make life very difficult for the individuals who break the rules AI is instructed to enforce.

A future nightmare scenario.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

For one such as yourself;

[Jitendra Hydonus]

I don't think your understanding me.


Steve, if you've read my post on other forums you'd see there is very little talk about, "conspiracies and misleading news."

And for all the years you've known me, it's only a little offensive this is your opinion as to my modus operandi.

I think, more accurate, is that maybe I am peering in for a greater truth. Or, peering into the unexplored facets of reality. Not accepting the shallow-spoon fed answers, asking questions around unfamiliar territory.

Because news and our differences were only focused upon when we indeed had a difference of opinion about them- and prior to let's say the Hillary vs Trump campaign- your observation about me could not stand.

Make sense?

For every person in the world, there is a unique opinion about us that is more true for that person than it is about the individual they are wrongly or correctly defining.

I suppose I don't take offense. And I think your observation isn't looking further at the nature of your forum over the years or considering more about the other.

Most forums do not allow political discourse when their main feature is for instance angels. Yes there have been periods of time, governed by events and yes we have shared wonderful experiences and times together, otherwise what would be the lasting nature of it all?

[guest587]

For one such as yourself;

Thanks Steve. Maybe this is for both of us. Or, for one, such as your self.  I don't like ass-u-mi-ng.

But I tell you, h'wot. That's a fine good tune, for even a donkey such as my self can enjoy.