Food: What The Heck Should I Eat?

[guest587]

Thanks guys. 

~~~~Love & Light~~~~

[Jitendra Hydonus]

I have found that plant butter actually tastes good! I don’t know what to say after that last entry Eric, accept I think I want to move further away from anything the diary has to offer. I really do find fruit more appealing and uplifting from a spiritual view. And we could feed the whole world with vegetables if we could give up dairy. The land used for raising cows would give people much more food. The statistics and realities of this are all too evident and I’m willing to provide them if need be.

Steve, plant butter is just fat, with some water.

Fruit is excellent if your body tolerates glucose well (I don't think you'll have fatty liver problems from fructose), but fruit has very little protein.

Vegetables have more protein usually but not of the quality of dairy products.

A nutritionally valid and ethic alternative to diry products would be to eat eggs, soy products, seitan (wheat protein) some beans, unrefined grains.

So now, after being kind to animals and earth friendly you are willing to let me know what I’ve been eating is akin to whale blubber? Take a look at all those wonderful oils to lubricate my creaking limbs! Even the tin man didn’t have this formula!

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[Jitendra Hydonus]

These are the secret 🤫 ingredients…

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[Jitendra Hydonus]

Shhh 🤐 don’t tell anyone…I wasn’t supposed to let you know. Just for you so you can navigate the universe freely with these mystical oils.

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[mccoy]

Steve, the ingredients label confirms my previous hypothesis that the product is just fats. Vegetable fats, of course, dairy-free, flesh-free. I will not pronounce on their spiritual qualities since I have no relevant data.

Strangely, the ingredients on the front read 'pea protein' but there is zero protein declared on the nutritional facts.

If it tastes good to you, then it's good, although it shows 5 grams of saturated fats per tablespoon, that is there is a nontrivial amount of saturated fats, the same kind prevalently contained in dairy products and in meats.

I live in the region of EVOO, so I mainly eat extra virgin olive oil as a fat, plus lots of walnuts and other nuts.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Steve, the ingredients label confirms my previous hypothesis that the product is just fats. Vegetable fats, of course, dairy-free, flesh-free. I will not pronounce on their spiritual qualities since I have no relevant data.

Strangely, the ingredients on the front read 'pea protein' but there is zero protein declared on the nutritional facts.

If it tastes good to you, then it's good, although it shows 5 grams of saturated fats per tablespoon, that is there is a nontrivial amount of saturated fats, the same kind prevalently contained in dairy products and in meats.

I live in the region of EVOO, so I mainly eat extra virgin olive oil as a fat, plus lots of walnuts and other nuts.

I only gave you the ingredients because I love you, otherwise I would have kept this secret 🤫 formula to myself. When you make it to the land of OZ the great wizard will give you the formula I’ve provided for you, out of the generosity of my heart. Even the Tin Man just got a symbolic gift but I’m giving you the oils to replenish your creaky bod to make you a youthful floating spirit. Is that not the purpose and fulfillment of this copious thread😄? It isn’t the oils separately that make the difference, but just the right amount mixed with an ancient recipe to rejuvenate your spirit that Ponce de Leon searched for in the Caribbean. This fountain of youth will turn men into boys once again! The alchemy will transcend the individual ingredients.

[mccoy]

Of course the alchemy is the source of the benefit, to all three bodies, material, astral and causal. It also goes without saying that the blessings (not listed on the label) are a secret and fundamental ingredient of the alchemy. Thanks very much for this priceless formula!

[guest587]

I find people are more receptive when I mention Dr. Mark Hyman has 40 years of experience and list some of his credentials.

It's interesting to me, to see someone who has no understanding of the man presenting said information defend their own beliefs and challenge excerpts from the book, themselves having no professional experience in the field- compared to their reactions once they learn a little bit more about the man presenting the information.

I remember being gifted Flivver King by Upton Sinclair only to have an observer chime in with his thoughts towards Sinclair, having never read the book I was gifted. He had negative things to say despite not knowing the contents in the book.

Similarly... I remember lending Autobiography of a Yogi only to be handed the book back via mail because ones internal beliefs and attitudes told them- "this book is not for me."

Are they wrong? No, not necessarily. But I don't think people always realize how limited our views are... And how quick we are to judge another based on our preconceived notions.

About the Author

Mark Hyman, MD, believes that we all deserve a life of vitality- and that we have the potential to create it for ourselves. That's why he is dedicated to tackling the root causes of chronic disease by harnessing the power of functional medicine to transform health care. Dr. Hyman and his team work every day to empower people, organizations, and communities to heal their bodies and minds and to improve our social and economic resilience.

Dr Hyman is a practicing family physician, an eleven-time #1 New York Times bestselling author, and an internationally recognized leader, speaker, educator, and advocate in his field. He is the director of the Cleveland Clinic Center for Functional Medicine. He is also the founder and medicate director of The UltraWellness Center, chairman of the board of the Institute for Functional Medicine, and a medical editor of the Huffington Post and was a regular medical contributor on many television shows and networks, including CBS, The View, Katie, and The Dr. Oz Show.

Dr. Hyman works with individuals and organizations, as well as policy makers and influencers. He has testified before both the White House Commission on Complementary and Alternative Medicine and the Senate Working Group on Health Care Reform on Functional Medicine. He has consulted with the surgeon general on diabetes prevention and participated in the 2009 White House Forum on Prevention and Wellness. Senator Tom Harkin of Iowa nominated Dr. Hyman for the President's Advisory Group on Prevention, Health Promotion, and Integrative and Public Health. In addition, Dr. Hyman has worked with President Billy Clinton, presenting at the Clinton Foundation's Health Matters, Achieving Wellness in Every Generation conference, and the Clinton Global Initiative, as well as with the World Economic Forum on global health issues. He is the winner of the Linus Pauling Award, the Nantucket Project Aware, and the Christian Book of the Year Award for the Daniel Plan and was inducted in the Books for Better Life Hall of Fame.

Dr. Hyman also works with fellow leaders in his field to help people and communities thrive- with Rick Warren, Dr. Mehmet Oz, and Dr. Daniel Amen, he created the Daniel Plan, a faith-based initiative that helped the Saddleback Church collectively lose 250,000 pounds. He is an adviser and guest co-host on The Dr. Oz Show and is on the board of Dr. Oz's HealthCorps, which tackles the obesity epidemic by educating American students about nutrition. With Dr. Dean Ornish and Dr. Michael Roizen, Dr. Hyman crafted and helped introduce the Take Back Your Health Act of 2009 to the United Sates Senate to provide for reimbursement of lifestyle treatment of chronic disease. And with Tim Ryan in 2015, he helped introduce the ENRICH Act into Congress to fund nutrition in medical education. Dr. Hyman plays a substantial role in a major film produced by Laurie David and Katie Couric, released in 2014, called Fed Up, which addresses childhood obesity. Please join him in helping us all take back our health at www.drhyman.com or follow him on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

I find people are more receptive when I mention Dr. Mark Hyman has 40 years of experience and list some of his credentials.

It's interesting to me, to see someone who has no understanding of the man presenting said information defend their own beliefs and challenge excerpts from the book, themselves having no professional experience in the field- compared to their reactions once they learn a little bit more about the man presenting the information.

I understand that is why when we look at a man like this we must take into account he may not have ever read the SRF lessons written by Paramahansa Yogananda nor the Holy Science written by Sri Yukteswar, nor the teachings of Amma. All these Masters deplored the wanton murder of animals and ingesting such poisons into our bodies. But having read them and seen such people, I recognize that such people who make out to know the mechanisms of the human body and the impact of dead animals on it, remain in incredible darkness promoting ingesting such poisons in any combination with foods suitable to human consumption… with a mere 40 years of human credentials and lacking any specified spiritual awareness from the Rishi’s - who have accumulated wisdom over many life times and gained wisdom through countless contacts with spiritual experiences-and guidance of great avatars.

[guest587]

Thanks Steve, all valid points worth consideration. Attached is a photo of my lunch- a beautiful vegetarian meal inspired by reading this book- and inspired by friends and spiritual giants alike.


It's really good after having sit in the flavors overnight.

Brussel sprouts, northern beans, egg from a farmer who loves his chickens, dill, lemon, garlic and a little red pepper.

All organic and all local, small farm produced.

The salad is raw mix leafy greens with pumpkin seeds, apple, avocado and lemon

Yum.

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[guest587]

Vegetables
Excerpt taken from, Food: What The Heck Should I Eat? by Mark Hyan, MD

What we still don't know for sure,

We're just beginning to understand the role of food as medicine, and how exactly the chemicals in plants interact with our own cells and those in our microbiome. We've all been told that our genes are our destiny. But that's not entirely true. Studies show that your genes can be turned on or off by the foods you eat. This is referred to as the science of nutrigenomics. There's evidence that the plant RNA may regulate our own DNA, an extraordinary thing to contemplate. It means that there may come a time when you'll know precisely which plants you need to eat to maximize your health and protect against disease.


Seven things you need to know about vegetables

1. Eat the Rainbow
Vegetables and fruits use their colors to signal which beneficial substances they contain. Red means one thing, yellow another, purple something else. The colors attract the insects and animals that will disperse the plant's seeds; these are the same chemicals- phytonutrients- that give flowers their colors. It's the language of the plant kingdom, and we would do well to learn it because each color represents a different group of healing compounds.

Did you know that our hunter-gatherer ancestors ate more than 800 varieties of plants? That's how they got so much fiber each day. Because they foraged far and wide, they typically ate a range of wild plants of all different colors. In other words, they ate the rainbow, and you should too. Think of that next time someone hands you a plate of pale, white mashed potatoes or iceberg lettuce salad.

Our ancestors didn't have drugs or pills. They ate their medicine in the form of plants. In general, the more colors you eat when it comes to plants, the more anti-inflammatory, detoxifying, healing compounds from the phytonutrients you'll soak up. Some of these colors even work together synergistically to have a more powerful effect, which is another reason you should eat a diverse array of veggies. Though these are not "essential" like vitamins and minerals, without them you will age and die faster.


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So what do all those colorful nutrients mean? Here's how to read the rainbow:

RED: Indicates the carotenoid lycopene in tomatoes, bell peppers, and carrots. Lycopene protects against heart disease and genetic damage that may cause cancer.

BLUE-PURPLE: Is caused by anthocyanins in eggplant, beets, red cabbage, and purple potatoes. Anthocyanins prevent blood clots, delay cell aging, and may slow Alzheimer's onset.

GREEN: Is found in the brassicas- broccoli, Brussels sprouts, bok choy, cabbage, cauliflower, kale, collards, arugula, and others- indicates phytochemicals, sulforaphane, isocyanates, and indoles, which inhibit carcinogens and boost detoxification.

PALE GREEN-WHITE: Appears in garlic, onions, leeks, and other vegetables and alliums and is caused by allicins, which have powerful anticancer, antitumor, immune-boosting, and antimicrobial properties. These vegetables also contain antioxidant flavanoids like quercetin and kaempferol.

ORANGE: Represents alpha-carotene and beta-carotene in carrots, pumpkin, acorn and winter squash, and sweet potatoes. Alpha-carotene protects against cancer and benefits skin and vision.

YELLOW-GREEN: Signals the carotenoids lutein and zeaxanthin, which benefits our eyes and safeguard our hearts against atherosclerosis. Vegetables in this group may not always appear yellowish to the eyes. They include spinach, collard, mustard, and turnip greens, yellow corn, pease and even avacado.


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[guest587]

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Thanks for playing! Anyone else care to jump in? Or have they had their fill?

The Quiz

Vegetables:
True or False?

1) Alfalfa sprouts are a health food.

2) Potatoes contain complex carbs, which are better for you than simple carbs like sugar.

3) The benefits of organic vegetables are overstates because studies show they're no healthier than conventionally grown food.

4) White button mushrooms are relatively low in nutrition.

5) Tomatoes can create inflammation in the body.

6) Arugula is just another kind of lettuce, like iceberg.

7) Some of the most nutritious vegetables are weird ones, like seaweed.

The Answers

1) False: Salmonella contamination is a big problem with alfalfa sprouts, and they contain toxins such as canavanine, which can cause cancer.

2) False: Most potatoes are not much better than white bread. The old distinction of simple and complex carbs is pretty much useless. Fingerling or Peruvian potatoes are better than most because they have a lower glycemic index and more nutrients.

3) False: Unless you like having lethal chemicals inside your body, go organic. The one study showing no difference between organic and conventional was funded by the food and agriculture industry. Many other studies have linked organic vegetables to a decrease in negative effects from pesticides and have found that organic vegetables contain more nutrients and phytochemicals than conventional ones.

4) True: They are surprisingly short on vitamins and contain cancer causing toxins when eaten raw, as many people do in salad.

5) True: Some people react badly to nightshades (potatoes, tomatoes, peppers, eggplant). Negative effects include pain, inflammation and arthritis.

6) False: Unlike lettuce, arugula is in the cruciferous vegetable family. It is more like broccoli than lettuce and contains all sorts of nutrients like calcium and phytochemicals that help with detoxification of environmental chemicals and prevent cancer.

7) True: We should all make an effort to eat them more often. In fact the best way to get more nutrient-dense food is to eat organic foods, wild foods, or unusual plants such as purslane, dandelion greens, opr kohlrabi, for example. They are not staple foods so are less likely to be genetically altered (as long as they're not startchy either).

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[mccoy]

My opinion is that Dr. Hyman and others eminent colleagues of his (the cited Dr. Ornish has huge credentials) have a mission toward the general public, whereas the mission of the great saints is restricted to spiritual aspirants. In some aspects, the teachings overlap (for example, the benefits of plant-based foods). In other aspects, the teachings diverge (for example, meat).

By the way, Dr. Ornish suggests a low-fat plant-based, vegan cuisine, possibly with low-fat dairy products and egg whites. There are so many doctors with vast credentials, and every one of them has a nuance in his teachings, targeted to particular sets of people.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

My opinion is that Dr. Hyman and others eminent colleagues of his (the cited Dr. Ornish has huge credentials) have a mission toward the general public, whereas the mission of the great saints is restricted to spiritual aspirants. In some aspects, the teachings overlap (for example, the benefits of plant-based foods). In other aspects, the teachings diverge (for example, meat).

By the way, Dr. Ornish suggests a low-fat plant-based, vegan cuisine, possibly with low-fat dairy products and egg whites. There are so many doctors with vast credentials, and every one of them has a nuance in his teachings, targeted to particular sets of people.

I want you to know mccoy that despite the psychic and spiritual experiences many of us have talked about having over the yrs. i find that Spirit has given you a very important tool and gift that never seems to stop reminding me as the years pass. That is an incredible gift in harmonizing people with tact and diplomacy. A recognition of what is suited and helpful for everyone.

[mccoy]

Steve, thanks for the appreciation and I appreciate you back for being able to exhibit flexibility in your thoughts, many people cannot really deviate from their extremist attitudes.