Steve, in the deceased forum there have been heated debates between vegans and vegetarians, so heated that the vegetarians asked me to ban the vegan who insisted on his agenda. He was too much insistent and obnoxious, but his point which apparently is true is that in traditional cow farming male calves are killed because they cannot produce milk.
That happens in almost all kinds of farms unless they specialize in ahimsha farming.
In traditional farms cows are over-exploited whereas in some smaller farms they can be raised with love and care. The fate of most male calves remains grim, they are either killed or destined to be butchered eventually.
I presently drink milk, yogurt and eat dairy products.
hmmm i guess that is yet one more issue i may have to address. There is enough cruelty to humans in this world to be able to also add our evil deeds to defenseless animals as well. At one time i made my own yogurt and attempted to buy fresh milk from farmers. i do try to buy soy milk and plant butter. Often i try although prices are prohibitive. But i also eat a lot of cheese in for instance Mexican food and plant cheese wow what a bad taste. Some of these practices start with knowledge and i'm glad you have brought it to our awareness.
Summers in Michigan are a lot more conducive to a vegan diet. It may be difficult to live in Alaska or near the arctic circle and be a vegetarian, not to even mention being a vegan. I found myself eating mostly vegan while living in Southern California. Vegetables and fruits were prevalent their because of the climate. It is a bit different living in Michigan.
