Edmond Haley

[Jitendra Hydonus]

https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/pleyades/esp_pleyades_31.htm

About 200 years ago Sir Edmund Halley discovered an anomaly in space around the stars of the Pleiades.

 A hundred years later Friedrich Wilhelm Bessel confirmed Halley's findings. In 1961 Paul Otto Hesse defined and measured this anomaly. It's an energy ring of incredible size, 760 thousand billion miles wide, and is due to intersect the earth just about any minute now. He also calculated that this is part of a 25,000-year-long cycle that our solar system goes through.

Sir Edmond Halley 1656-1742 English Astronomer and Physicist Edmond Halley is best known for predicting the return of the comet that today bears his name and for the instrumental role he played in the publication of Isaac Newton's Principia. Halley was born at Haggerton, near London, in late 1656 to a wealthy landowner and soapmaker.
Reference:Sir Edmond Halley | Encyclopedia.com
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Edmond (or Edmund) Halley FRS (/ ˈ h æ l i /; 8 November [O.S. 29 October] 1656 – 25 January 1742 [O.S. 14 January 1741]) was an English astronomer, geophysicist, mathematician, meteorologist, and physicist.

Nationality: English
Died: 25 January 1742 [O.S. 14 January 1741] (aged 85), Greenwich, Kent, England
Born: 8 November [O.S. 29 October] 1656, Haggerston, Middlesex, England
Fields: Astronomy, geophysics, mathematics,

[mccoy]

Steve, that's all fascinating stuff, but I'd like to see a few scientific credible sources...

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Steve, that's all fascinating stuff, but I'd like to see a few scientific credible sources...

Mccoy I’d like to ask you one personal question; can you tell me why you practice Kriya yoga daily when there is no scientific evidence that it burns off Karma?

[mccoy]

Steve, that's all fascinating stuff, but I'd like to see a few scientific credible sources...

Mccoy I’d like to ask you one personal question; can you tell me why you practice Kriya yoga daily when there is no scientific evidence that it burns off Karma?

Steve, the answer is simple. If we are discussing some physical entity, then the laws of physical science, which is pretty sophisticated now, should apply. For example, astronomy has reached an incredible level of sophistication, the Pleiades being a rotation hub for some part of the galaxy should be a well-known truth, but apparently, there is no hint of it. It has not been observed. A simple, detectable physical phenomenon that is lacking physical evidence is very suspect.

On the other side, karma, meditation, kriya yoga, and religion, are concepts belonging to the metaphysical sciences. There cannot be scientific evidence, since this is not the domain of physical science. Other parameters apply, like logic inference, intuition and so on.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Well you essentially answered by saying you were not going to answer because the laws of science do not apply in regards to Kriya Yoga. Yet Yogananda wrote a book describing Religion as he knew it called "The Science of Religion'. I guess you could say the same thing about planets scientists are still looking for to account for the various perturbations that are occurring in planets we already have observed. However like our 'dual' nothing has yet been found. Maybe the scientists of the past just were not as rigid, and being from another higher age, they could look past the warble of the earth and find what is all to obvious.

[mccoy]

Well you essentially answered by saying you were not going to answer because the laws of science do not apply in regards to Kriya Yoga. Yet Yogananda wrote a book describing Religion as he knew it called "The Science of Religion'. I guess you could say the same thing about planets scientists are still looking for to account for the various perturbations that are occurring in planets we already have observed. However like our 'dual' nothing has yet been found. Maybe the scientists of the past just were not as rigid, and being from another higher age, they could look past the warble of the earth and find what is all to obvious.

Steve, I did not say exactly that. My answer in relation to Kriya Yoga is that the model expounded by Yogananda explains more logically than other models many deep metaphysical truths. Then, by virtue of such logical coherence, I also trust Yogananda that Kryia burns karma. It's just an issue of credibility earned (by Yogananda).

The denomination science of religion is a shorteining, IMO, for metaphysical science of religion, as opposed to physical science, which can deal only with physical phenomena, by definition.

You cited the various perturbations in the movements of planets as hints of thepresence of other celestial bodies, and I think that's exact. Fact is that, AFAIK, no such perturbation were found which can be related to the presence of a dual star.

Maybe the scientists of the past were influenced by the darkness of Kali yuga in interpreting the inheritance of the higher ages? I don't know. 

It seems strange that astronomy, as sophisticated as it is today, could not find a closeby star which is gravitationally engaged to the sun.

To me the issue of a binary system is still unsolved. There is no evidence, although there is a hypothesis from a highly credible sage, Sri Yukteswar. But we all know that sometimes even highly evolved masters can be tricked by Maya...

[Jitendra Hydonus]

It’s easier to take point by point mccoy. First you made this point;

“Steve, I did not say exactly that. My answer in relation to Kriya Yoga is that the model expounded by Yogananda explains more logically than other models many deep metaphysical truths. Then, by virtue of such logical coherence, I also trust Yogananda that Kryia burns karma. It's just an issue of credibility earned (by Yogananda).” ~mccoy

Above you have stated that you “trust Yogananda that Kriya burns karma.” So why is it you do not trust Yogananda when he stated this in the Autbiography of a Yogi (chapter 16 - Outwitting the Stars). And if you do trust him, wouldn’t you also accept the statements he made below about the Yugas and Sri Yukteswar’s ability to “ separate errors and interpolations of scholars from the truths as originally expressed by the prophets.”?

Sri Yukteswar discovered the mathematical application of a 24,000-year equinoctial cycle to our present age.4 The cycle is divided into an Ascending Arc and a Descending Arc, each of 12,000 years. Within each Arc fall four Yugas or Ages, called Kali, Dwapara, Treta, and Satya, corresponding to the Greek ideas of Iron, Bronze, Silver, and Golden Ages.

My guru determined by various calculations that the last Kali Yuga or Iron Age, of the Ascending Arc, started about A.D. 500. The Iron Age, 1200 years in duration, is a span of materialism; it ended about A.D. 1700. That year ushered in Dwapara Yuga, a 2400-year period of electrical and atomic-energy developments, the age of telegraph, radio, airplanes, and other space-annihilators.

The 3600-year period of Treta Yuga will start in A.D. 4100; its age will be marked by common knowledge of telepathic communications and other time-annihilators. During the 4800 years of Satya Yuga, final age in an ascending arc, the intelligence of a man will be completely developed; he will work in harmony with the divine plan.

A descending arc of 12,000 years, starting with a descending Golden Age of 4800 years, then begins5 for the world; man gradually sinks into ignorance. These cycles are the eternal rounds of maya, the contrasts and relativities of the phenomenal universe.6 Man, one by one, escapes from creation's prison of duality as he awakens to consciousness of his inseverable divine unity with the Creator.

Master enlarged my understanding not only of astrology but of the world's scriptures. Placing the holy texts on the spotless table of his mind, he was able to dissect them with the scalpel of intuitive reasoning, and to separate errors and interpolations of scholars from the truths as originally expressed by the prophets.

[mccoy]

Above you have stated that you “trust Yogananda that Kriya burns karma.” So why is it you do not trust Yogananda when he stated this in the Autbiography of a Yogi (chapter 16 - Outwitting the Stars). And if you do trust him, wouldn’t you also accept the statements he made below about the Yugas and Sri Yukteswar’s ability to “ separate errors and interpolations of scholars from the truths as originally expressed by the prophets.”?

My trust in topics related to metaphysical science is 100%

My trust in topics related to physical science is subject to God-given discrimination and logic. I would sin of omission if I did not apply such God-given faculties.

The great masters themselves, although many of them were avatars, had to accept limitations due to the very fact that they had to incarnate in a gross body.

The above being said, my trust in science is not 100% either and is subject to discrimination and logic.

Bottom line, my judgment about the model of the yugas is presently neutral. There is no evidence of a binary system involving the sun, the search has eluded even the efforts of the binary institute, so the whole model would not be correct. On the other side, the tools of astronomy are becoming more and more refined and accurate, so a celestial object gravitationally engaged with the sun may be discovered.

I apologize for not being 100% trustful on that, but I feel that Sri yukteswar would appreciate my reasoned objections, I really wish he could appear to me in vision explaining where I am wrong, at the same time punishing me with proper epithets.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Above you have stated that you “trust Yogananda that Kriya burns karma.” So why is it you do not trust Yogananda when he stated this in the Autbiography of a Yogi (chapter 16 - Outwitting the Stars). And if you do trust him, wouldn’t you also accept the statements he made below about the Yugas and Sri Yukteswar’s ability to “ separate errors and interpolations of scholars from the truths as originally expressed by the prophets.”?

My trust in topics related to metaphysical science is 100%

My trust in topics related to physical science is subject to God-given discrimination and logic. I would sin of omission if I did not apply such God-given faculties.

The great masters themselves, although many of them were avatars, had to accept limitations due to the very fact that they had to incarnate in a gross body.

The above being said, my trust in science is not 100% either and is subject to discrimination and logic.

Bottom line, my judgment about the model of the yugas is presently neutral. There is no evidence of a binary system involving the sun, the search has eluded even the efforts of the binary institute, so the whole model would not be correct. On the other side, the tools of astronomy are becoming more and more refined and accurate, so a celestial object gravitationally engaged with the sun may be discovered.

I apologize for not being 100% trustful on that, but I feel that Sri yukteswar would appreciate my reasoned objections, I really wish he could appear to me in vision explaining where I am wrong, at the same time punishing me with proper epithets.

I think there are many things we find hard to believe without overwhelming evidence. That is why we are in the private science laboratory of our meditation daily investigating. We will find that most science will not use this means of discovery of evidence because it cannot be properly duplicated. This is because not every spiritual seeker can have the exact experiences as another person meditating. Yet meditating does bring validation. But often not in the way we demand proof. This is the minds attitude that needs improvement. It demands that things are done a prescribed way. A way in which we deem appropriate or those we have chosen deem appropriate.

[mccoy]

Right. God chose to conceal perfectly beyond creation. I think the reason is that overwhelming evidence of his existence would have deprived humanity of free choice. Maybe. Many scientists are limited in their views, even being endowed with superhuman intelligence. Other scientists go beyond the usual scientific skepticism of all supernatural things.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Right. God chose to conceal perfectly beyond creation. I think the reason is that overwhelming evidence of his existence would have deprived humanity of free choice. Maybe. Many scientists are limited in their views, even being endowed with superhuman intelligence. Other scientists go beyond the usual scientific skepticism of all supernatural things.

You’ve given me a lot to mull over… thanks