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« on: Aug 10, 2022 06:51 pm »

On Suicide

Master said that a suicide means you will usually lose two or three bodies: still birth or die soon after birth. But not all still-birthers are suicide souls.

If a person is dying of cancer, no hope to live – terrible pain - and dies by deliberately overdosing on drugs, what is the karma? That soul must come back to finish the pain, plus overcome the additional suicide karma.

~ Brother Bhaktananda

Hmmm 🤨 Maybe it’s my limited perspective but God seems quite strict if that’s true and if I saw an animal squirming because it was hit by a car I would have relieved it of it’s sufferings. I think people should be careful when answering for God but I do have tremendous respect for Brother Bhaktananda who helped me a lot to understand life.
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« Reply #1 on: Aug 10, 2022 10:11 pm »

I agree that Bakhtananda's words sound very hard, but conceptually, according to the mathematically precise law of karma, that makes sense.

I sympathize with people who have been totally paralyzed on a bed for years and years and decide to receive euthanasia. But it is clear that they are avoiding horrible karma. That karma constitutes some necessary retribution from past lives. So, they'll have to incur again the same karma (minus the suffering already experienced, plus the additional karma incurred from suicide).

From the perspective of logic, it totally adds up.

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« Reply #2 on: Aug 11, 2022 02:06 am »

Math wouldn't exist without chaos. And for really complex problems, God creates special equations. Some mathematicians call those shortcuts.  Shocked
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« Reply #3 on: Aug 11, 2022 03:57 am »

Math wouldn't exist without chaos. And for really complex problems, God creates special equations. Some mathematicians call those shortcuts.  Shocked

I understand Mccoy’s exacting equations but if it wasn’t for God’s Grace I doubt very seriously I would be around today and definitely not have the health I’m presently blessed having. We actually can get an extension on life if we are blessed to have it and want to get rid of some of our lingering karma.
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« Reply #4 on: Aug 11, 2022 11:48 am »

Math wouldn't exist without chaos. And for really complex problems, God creates special equations. Some mathematicians call those shortcuts.  Shocked

I understand Mccoy’s exacting equations but if it wasn’t for God’s Grace I doubt very seriously I would be around today and definitely not have the health I’m presently blessed having. We actually can get an extension on life if we are blessed to have it and want to get rid of some of our lingering karma.

Steve, what do you mean exactly by God's grace? The law of karma is mathematical in its effects, as God intended it to be. But we know that some actions like meditation, or the direct intervention of an enlightened master can alleviate our karmic burden, that is can dampen the sleeping reaction ready to be put in motion by our previous actions when the right opportunity occurs (the so-called seeds of karma). It may even erase such reactions (the so-called burning of the seeds of karma).

But again, it's all metaphysical mathematics. A karmic seed waits to sprout, unless it's possibly burnt by proper actions. So, God's grace may be meeting Yogananda who bestowed to us kriya yoga which can actually burn some karma.

Healthwise, we may counteract previous bad karma by actuating a healthy lifestyle, which may 'burn', some dormant deleterious seeds.
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At the end, though, I wonder. Can a cruel murderer expect that his heinous actions be counteracted? I think not. He must necessarily reap the painful results of his heinous action, otherwise God would turn out to be unfair, arbitrary and whimsy in his laws.
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« Reply #5 on: Aug 11, 2022 02:06 pm »

I believe you answered your question better than I could. Just want to add though by my observations of who was who in the past and what they did it appears that we can change our karma quite a bit with spiritual practices like Kriya  and the Grace of the Gurus.

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