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« on: May 30, 2022 05:22 am »

I don't believe it far fetched to think Trump, Obama and the Clintons have all worked together to pull one over the American people. It would appear this is a normal thing in the West.

I believe we have a lot of people trying to rewrite history to shape the view of their own personal egos. That’s why we have so many political prisoners in the world. Leaders and politicians want their countries to appear attractive. Even musicians attempt to rewrite history. Case in point; Paul McCartney.

Looking at ourselves we do the same just on a more personal level. We have our own take on relationships. It may be quite different then the people we call our friends. They may have quite a different view than us. Quite different explanation of events, circumstances and the communication that took place.
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« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2022 04:53 pm »

Steve, you mean you wish I had *your* understanding of President Trump. In which case, it would appear you too realize that is a frivolous desire and that we will ultimately wind up in a similar destination despite the way we choose to get there. I don't wish for you to see things my way, I just wish to maintain peace in turbulent times. A wise man once told me variety is the spice of life.
Kind regards  Smiley

It’s very simple, not that I want to have you see it my way but how things really are. You see like Trump you have wanted him to have won the election just as he did and still does. But rewriting history to acommodate a wish does not make it true.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2020/dec/08/us-election-results-2020-joe-biden-defeats-donald-trump-to-win-presidency

Steve, he got about 50% of the consensus in the latest elections, so we cannot affirm that about 50% of Americans have been totally blinded.

By the way, I appreciate the references you are providing.

US election results 2020: Joe Biden's defeat of Donald Trump
Georgia recertifies election results, confirming Biden’s victory, despite Trump’s continued refusal to formally concede
Niko Kommenda, Antonio Voce, Frank Hulley-Jones, Anna Leach and Seán Clarke
Tue 8 Dec 2020 10.21 GMT Last modified on Thu 21 Jan 2021 03.18 GMT

Updating in 2 ...
BIDEN
306
TRUMP
232
81,281,888 votes
74,223,251 votes

81 million votes to Trumps 74 million is hardly half mccoy. And 306 to 232 electoral votes is overwhelming!

Georgia recertifies election results, confirming Biden’s victory, despite Trump’s continued refusal to formally concede

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« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2022 06:21 pm »

Steve, quoting me elsewhere and putting it here to fit the subject of this thread is your doing. And to tell me I don't see things the way they are is the biggest fallacy I've heard all morning. You don't know me and your presumption of reality is no greater than mine. If you could only respect my experience, and I yours- the world would be a better place. You will no doubt try to draw further examples to prove your point. As Gurunath often says, I want no part navigating in the quagmire's of your mind. That place is a dungeon. It may be that someone else here can accommodate your perceptions in regards to politics. Someone to fulfill your desires and make you feel assured about reality. Before you pull me in further, I will save my self.

Let us make peace with the facts- knowing corruption and suffering are much deeper than we can presently imagine. May all beings be happy. And one I've been adding lately... May all beings know peace.

I release the binding tension and recognize you to be a part of that which I hold most dear. Namaste ~
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« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2022 09:46 pm »

Steve, quoting me elsewhere and putting it here to fit the subject of this thread is your doing. And to tell me I don't see things the way they are is the biggest fallacy I've heard all morning. You don't know me and your presumption of reality is no greater than mine. If you could only respect my experience, and I yours- the world would be a better place. You will no doubt try to draw further examples to prove your point. As Gurunath often says, I want no part navigating in the quagmire's of your mind. That place is a dungeon. It may be that someone else here can accommodate your perceptions in regards to politics. Someone to fulfill your desires and make you feel assured about your reality. Before you pull me in further, I will save my self.

Let us make peace with the facts- knowing corruption and suffering are much deeper than we can presently imagine. May all beings be happy. And one I've been adding lately... May all beings know peace.

I release the binding tension and recognize you to be a part of that which I hold most dear. Namaste ~

Consider yourself saved for now.
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« Reply #4 on: Dec 27, 2023 09:01 am »

Threats and intimidation to those serving our government.

Democratic Rep. Debbie Dingell (Mich.) dug into former President Trump’s Christmas message calling for various people he sees as “looking to destroy” the country to “rot in hell,” calling it “one of the most pathetic” Christmas greetings she has heard.

Asked on CNN () if things are getting worse in terms of threats against public servants, Dingell on Tuesday said, “They’re deteriorating and they’re getting worse … Quite frankly, I’m going to tell you that I think it was one of the most pathetic Christmas greetings I’ve heard when a former president of the United States who wants to return tells people on Christmas Day that they ‘can rot in hell.'”
In the message on Truth Social, Trump went after public figures including world leaders and special counsel Jack Smith, who is overseeing the Justice Department’s investigation into the former president’s actions surrounding the 2020 el
ection and Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol insurrection.

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« Reply #5 on: Dec 28, 2023 09:49 am »

The deterioration in Fuhrer Trumps brain is becoming more and more in evidence….

Trump falsely claims U.S. soldier killed abroad in burst of misstatements
Republican polling leader Donald Trump incorrectly said a U.S. soldier died in recent days, appearing to exaggerate the injuries from an attack in northern Iraq on Monday as he sought to criticize President Biden.

The attack left one U.S. service member in critical condition and two others injured, according to a statement released by U.S. military officials Monday night. The United States responded with retaliatory airstrikes against an Iran-backed armed group.

But the former president, who is a heavy favorite in the 2024 GOP primary, inaccurately described the situation in an interview Wednesday with pro-Trump journalist John Solomon.

“Last night, a young soldier was killed, U.S., and the two were very, very badly hurt and nobody even talks about it,” Trump said, describing the assault two nights prior. “It’s not even believable.”

Both the U.S. military and National Security Council released statements on the attack Monday.
A Trump campaign spokesman did not immediately respond to requests to clarify his remarks.

The comments are part of a broader pattern of Trump frequently embellishing or otherwise misstating the number of U.S. military casualties as he seeks to make himself look more favorable compared with Biden. He routinely claims in campaign speeches that U.S. forces in Afghanistan went 18 months without any fatalities during his presidency. The Defense Casualty Analysis System’s Sentinel database has recorded U.S. military hostile deaths every year of the conflict since 2015.

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« Reply #6 on: Apr 23, 2024 11:33 pm »

Trump’s trial and the defamation and silencing of any witnesses, that provided incriminating evidence.

Pecker back on the witness stand: In what amounted to incredibly damning testimony, Pecker laid out the 2015 deal he reached with Trump “to help the campaign.” Pecker called the arrangement to publish stories to make Trump look good — and to smear his political rivals — “highly, highly confidential.” Trump’s then lawyer Michael Cohen fed the tabloid negative stories about rivals like Sen. Ted Cruz when they sensed him gaining momentum on Trump in the GOP primary, Pecker testified. Steve Bannon also pitched negative stories about Hillary Clinton to Pecker that the Enquirer published.

“Catch and kill”: Pecker also testified about the Enquirer’s efforts regarding “catch and kill,” the practice of buying the exclusive rights to a story only to make sure it would never be published. The Enquirer paid $30,000 to a Trump Tower doorman named Dino Sajudin for a story about Trump fathering an out-of-wedlock child. Though the story turned out not to be true, Pecker said, “I made the decision to buy the story because of the potential embarrassment it would have to the campaign and Mr. Trump.” A second catch-and-kill example involved former Playboy model Karen McDougal, who was shopping a story about a sexual relationship she said she had with Trump. “I think you should buy it,” Pecker said he told Trump, who was married at the time, during the 2016 campaign.

Yahoo news.

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« Reply #7 on: Apr 25, 2024 07:36 am »

“It makes no difference whatever whether they laugh at us or revile us … whether they represent us as clowns or criminals; the main thing is that they mention us, that they concern themselves with us again and again …”

The quote you mentioned is attributed to Joseph Goebbels, a German politician and Reich Minister of Propaganda in Nazi Germany from 1933 to 1945. This quote highlights his perspective on the importance of publicity and attention, even if it's negative, as a means to maintain relevance and influence.

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« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2024 07:47 am »

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« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2024 06:08 pm »

Most people would like to rewrite their personal history including myself. But we do have to acknowledge that we have made mistakes and attempt to rectify them. In the case of Donald Trump there appears to be no decision to do this at all. Instead he would like others to believe that he never did any thing to encourage violence Jan 6, he did nothing wrong by taking hundreds of files that were not his to take and put them in his Margo Largo home. He never was involved with hush money for any porn star. There was nothing wrong with groping women because he could do it and get away with it.  He never lost any election, although it was clearly proven that he did. And, he already is preparing himself to deny the next election, as he has said, if he does not become President.  He never had anything to do with inflating any of his real estate holdings. He never had any affair while his wife was giving birth to his child. He never had anything to do with attempting to get dirt on Hilary Clinton to influence the election. He never had anything to do with attempting to get false electors to find votes that were not accounted for. He made no mistakes in giving credit to leaders who are known for their hideous crimes. He had no part in making the claim that climate change is a hoax perpetuated by the Chinese. He was really trying to help the American People by giving the richest 1 percent of the population the biggest tax breaks in History. No, to Donald Trump there is nothing wrong with accusing a former president of the U.S. of not even being an American citizen. Did Donald Trump ever provide hush money to still any bad publicity against him so he could influence the elections with his wealth to subdue all opponents?  Of course not . At least not in his convoluted mind. Never mind that he has over 90 felony charges against him. If he is elected President, he can excuse all of them.  Donald Trump's record speaks for itself. We know what kind of character he represents. And if we elect him as another president, we have no one to blame but ourselves.
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« Reply #10 on: Jun 02, 2024 06:34 am »

“We are continuing to see a dangerous erosion of democratic norms,” Daniel J. Jones, president of Advance Democracy, said in a statement to NBC News. “Trump and his allies have been spreading disinformation about the trial, challenging Justice Merchan’s impartiality, and describing the entire process as ‘rigged’ for weeks. As such, it’s not a surprise that some of his most fervent supporters are now calling for doxxing and violence against jurors, the judge, and the district attorney.”

Jones said online activity has been increasing in the wake of Trump’s guilty verdict, which makes it important for elected officials to “speak out against the disinformation Trump is spreading, as well the calls for violence he’s inspiring.”

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« Reply #11 on: Jun 03, 2024 12:12 pm »

More examples of Trump attempting to rewrite his past and history…

“I beat her,” Trump replied. “It’s easier when you win. And they always said ‘lock her up,’ and I felt — and I could have done it, but I felt it would have been a terrible thing. And then this happened to me.”

“I didn’t say ‘lock her up,’ but the people said ‘lock her up, lock her up,’” Trump continued. “Then, we won. And I say — and I said pretty openly, I said, all right, come on, just relax, let’s go, we’ve got to make our country great.”

Trump did repeatedly demand Clinton be sent to prison during his campaign, however, and the “lock her up” chant was a signature of his supporters at his rallies, even after the 2016 election.

Just before that election, he did commit to investigate Clinton with a special counsel, though one was never appointed.

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« Reply #12 on: Jun 04, 2024 07:36 pm »

Three Trump operatives charged in Wisconsin for 2020 election gambit
Kenneth Chesebro, Jim Troupis and Mike Roman were all charged with forgery for their efforts to assemble fake elector certificates.
Kenneth Chesebro, an architect of Donald Trump’s scheme to subvert the 2020 election, has been charged with felony forgery in Wisconsin, court records show.
Chesebro, who developed a strategy to send false slates of presidential electors — and to use them to stoke a conflict on Jan. 6, 2021 aimed at blocking Joe Biden’s Electoral College victory — was charged alongside Jim Troupis, a 2020 Trump campaign lawyer, and Mike Roman, a former Trump campaign operative.

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« Reply #13 on: Jun 07, 2024 12:35 am »

Despite what you may have heard about the federal charges against Donald Trump, there is actually nothing shocking or unprecedented about a former head of state facing criminal charges. It has happened several times in other democracies, and it would have happened in the United States but for Gerald Ford pardoning Richard Nixon.

What is shocking, and carries the ominous reek of banana-republicanism, is the response by the opposition party to the news. Kevin McCarthy, the highest-ranking Republican leader, depicts the charges as a personal plot by Joe Biden — “It is unconscionable for a President to indict the leading candidate opposing him” — and a “grave injustice.” Trump’s leading Republican opponent denounces the charges as “political bias” and “the weaponization of federal law enforcement.”

What is distinctive about these remarks is how little fear these leaders have of embarrassment by the facts. They are dismissing out of hand an indictment they have not seen, the known contours of which suggest persistent criminal misconduct. Trump, according to news reports, repeatedly defied orders to return classified documents, repeatedly lied about what he held, and appears to have engaged in a cover-up, evidence of which may include surveillance-camera footage, potential testimony by his underlings, and a recording of Trump contradicting his best legal defense. Trump’s attorney confirmed he is facing seven criminal counts, including conspiracy.

A reasonably healthy party might give its indicted leader some benefit of the doubt, while calling for judgment to be withheld before he has his day in court. But Republicans correctly understand that their party will consider Trump an innocent martyr regardless. The sickness of the Republican Party as it is presently constituted is that there is no conceivable set of facts that would permit it to acknowledge Trump’s guilt.

What has brought the party to this point is the convergence of its decades-long descent into paranoia with its idiosyncratic embrace of a career criminal.

Without belaboring the point, consider each of these dynamics in turn. The Republican Party’s internal culture has been shaped by what Richard Hofstadter famously described as “the paranoid style” in American politics. Hofstadter specifically attributed this description to the conservative movement, which, at the time, was a marginalized faction on the far right but has since completely taken control of the party and imposed its warped mentality on half of America. To its adherents, every incremental expansion of the welfare state is incipient communism, each new expansion of social liberalism the final death blow to family and church. Lurking behind these endless defeats, they discern a vast plot by shadowy elites.

In recent years, the Republican Party’s long rightward march on policy has ground to a halt, and it has instead radicalized on a different dimension: ruthlessness. Attributing their political travails to weakness, Republicans converged on the belief that their only chance to pull back from the precipice of final defeat is to discard their scruples. A willingness to do or say anything to win was the essence of Trump’s appeal, an amorality some Republicans embraced gleefully and others reluctantly.

Trump, by dint of his obsessive consumption of right-wing media, grasped where the party was going more quickly than its leaders did. This aspect of Trump’s rise was historically necessary. All Trump did was to hasten it along.

But there was a second aspect of Trump’s rise that was more or less accidental. The party was searching for a strongman to crush its enemies, and it could have found him in a politician, a general, a movie star, or an athlete. Instead, Republicans located their warlord in a crooked real-estate heir.

Trump was not raised in a traditional conservative milieu. He came into a seedy, corrupt world in which politicians could be bought off and laws were suggestions. He worked with mobsters and absorbed their view of law enforcement: People who follow the law are suckers, and the worst thing in the world is a rat.

That ethos ultimately explains Trump’s approach to classified information. He casually discarded all the rules concerning government secrecy as president — using an unsecured mobile phone, tearing up official documents, sharing highly classified information with Russian officials, and conducting state affairs at his loosely secured Florida resort. After leaving office, he naturally assumed he could continue flouting regulations about government secrecy. If the government was demanding its documents back, that was not an order but a negotiation. And why should he give up his leverage? He had something they wanted.

You can imagine the futility of trying to explain to Trump the seriousness and national security implications of the laws he was brazenly flouting, if any of his aides even bothered trying to get it across to him.

It is the interplay of the two forces, the paranoia of the right and the seamy criminality of the right’s current champion, that has brought the party to this point. Trump’s endlessly repeated “witch hunt” meme blends together the mobster’s hatred of the FBI with the conservative’s fear of the bureaucrat. His loyalists have been trained to either deny any evidence of misconduct by their side or rationalize it as a necessary countermeasure against their enemies.

The concept of “crime” has been redefined in the conservative mind to mean activities by Democrats. They insist upon Trump’s innocence because they believe a Republican, axiomatically, cannot be a criminal.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/06/trump-indictment-why-republicans-will-never-admit-his-guilt.html
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« Reply #14 on: Jun 07, 2024 06:24 pm »

Steve Bannon; Former presidential advisor for Trump - ordered to surrender to prison term.
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