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« Reply #15 on: Dec 28, 2023 03:55 am »

So... Trump asked the protestors to go home. He asked that people be peaceful.
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Please support our Capitol Police and Law Enforcement. They are truly on the side of our Country. Stay peaceful!

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I am asking for everyone at the U.S. Capitol to remain peaceful. No violence! Remember, WE are the Party of Law & Order – respect the Law and our great men and women in Blue. Thank you!
~Donald Trump

He also asked for additional military aid, which was turned down.

Fact checkers say these things did not happen- but the full report can be seen here: https://justthenews.com/sites/default/files/2022-06/USCPJan.6Timeline.pdf

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...“An official timeline of the Jan. 6 tragedy assembled by Capitol Police shows that a Defense Department official reached out to a Capitol Police deputy chief, Sean Gallagher, on Jan. 2, 2021 to see if a request for troops was forthcoming, but the offer was quickly rejected after a consultation with then-Chief Steve Sund.”
This reporting flies in the face of Pelosi’s sham political witch-hunt assertion this evening that President Trump did not offer the Capitol National Guard protection ahead of the events of January 6, 2021. Speaker Pelosi could have easily hardened the United States Capitol in those four days, but Capitol Police did not because of “optics.”

This is the unedited footage released by Speaker Mike Johnson archived here,
https://cha.house.gov/cha-subcommittee-reading-room-fe781e74-d577-4f64-93cc-fc3a8dd8df18
confirming this video
https://twitter.com/iFightForKids/status/1725643695418962192

Indeed took place in the capitol on J6.

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If you’d have told me nearly 3 years ago when I was just a CEO that Jan. 6 was an inside job, I would’ve said that’s crazy talk. It’s not. There is now clear evidence that there was at the very least entrapment of peaceful protestors, similar to the fake Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping plot & countless other cases. The FBI won’t admit how many undercover officers were in the field on Jan 6, Capitol police on one hand fired rubber bullets & explosives into a peaceful crowd who they then willingly later allowed to enter the Capitol. That doesn’t add up & the actual evidence turns the prior narrative upside down: if the deep state is willing to manufacture an “insurrection” to take down its political opponents, they can do anything. Once you see it, you can’t unsee it.
~Vivek Ramaswamy


https://twitter.com/RyanMattaMedia/status/1707486441343725600

There is a film coming on 1/1/2024
https://j6truetimeline.com/

J6: A True Timeline

Thousands of crowdsourced video files. Hundreds of hours of CCTV footage. Dozens of police officer body cams. One True Timeline.

Do you know the whole story of January 6th?

Find out what really happened: 01/01/2024 http://J6TrueTimeline.com #J6TrueTimeline


It's funny, fact checkers have also called the vaccine safe and effective. At the time people questioned elections, the AI systems in place weren't fast or strong enough to censor in real time. They could only slap a little disclaimer at the bottom enforcing their lies. But as we move in to 2024, that can all be changed. AI systems will reward and punish utilizing the social credit score that companies presently adhere to. Right now, the EU is moving to punish Elonk Musk for supporting free speech. They are threatening to remove the social media platform altogether prior to our upcoming election, if he does not remove independent media from his platform. 

Here, Vivek Ramaswamy says the real enemy is not Donald Trump or Even Joe Biden...
Listen...

https://twitter.com/theblaze/status/1732585805128892673

They have undemocratically tried to remove Trump from ballots... And now they are trying to bar people from seeing all the evidence...
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Special counsel Jack Smith filed a motion Wednesday asking the Washington D.C. court to prevent the jury in his January 6 case against Donald Trump from hearing about evidence related to the January 6 riot.

You cannot make this up.
https://www.infowars.com/posts/jack-smith-moves-to-prevent-jury-from-hearing-evidence-about-jan-6-in-his-jan-6-case-against-trump/

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« Reply #16 on: Dec 28, 2023 07:06 am »

First before responding to your post above…. I am happy to see your threads and posts about Robert Kennedy Jr. Although he may give the possibility of letting a psychopath get elected because of splitting up the election, which currently is determined mainly by two parties, I do not think that is his intention. Nor do I believe it is yours.

You have your narrative about Jan 6.  It is OK. Some of it may be true.  However, you would not have to spend all the energy on constructiing it if you, and those there last year, accepted the simple truth that Trump lost Eric. We have gone through that countless times, and more countless times, before I took them all off-all our posts that caused decisiveness, between us. Yours and mine included. My proof he lost and your continuing (I will clarify that remark below) your false narrative. We can go through it again if you’re up for it. There is now even more proof out there than ever before. All the violence on one big lie; Trump won. But he lost by a landslide. All the talk about voting machines that made mistakes; lies. All the talk about choosing false electorals; manipulation. All the evidence showing Donald Trump holding out; still true, an obsessed man desperate to be right. All the evidence supporting an improvised coup at the capital ….. shown by trials of witnesses and those involved have been prosecuted. The people owning voting machines have now sued incredible amounts. Networks that carried the lies like Fox News have payed hundreds of millions behind the scenes before being prosecuted. Trump has 91 charges that are felonies. Let them play out. We will see the results. Now he is just trying to delay them to claim immunity and excuse himself and all those that defend him, regardless if they all continue the lie. He is hoping to be president again to do that. It is 1984 come to life. Doublespeak has come to reality, a lie is made into a truth. The spiritual question is still this; what is truth? In all our discussions. And the spiritual message I continue to broadcast is that Donald Trump is a traitor to this country. Donald Trump continues to lie. He is a psychopathic liar. And he is the cause of all this misinformation. His lies have encouraged you to continue to give energy to his false narrative. Most the people he had even appointed to high positions in the government, except his family, say they could not support his narrative. We can bring them all up again. We can listen to their rebuttal of his lies. We can investigate the voting machines again. We can interview the witnessing people of Jan 6 again. We will come up with the same conclusion. And if you do not, so be it. Nothing will come of good from it.

Do you think that I see myself as an authority on the matter? Is anyone really an authority on anything? At some point we have to make decisions. I’ve made mine. And it appears you have made yours. Now we must live with them and the karma they bring with them. I’m ready to face my karma from such decisions, if you are ready to face yours, then what more is there to say?

Eric your world is crumbling when it comes to Donald Trump. Yes , that is my opinion. He is a loser. He is a fraud. He is dangerous to this country, and his ignorance and influence; a danger to the world. He must be stopped. And he will not stop on his own. We must stop him, because he is a psychopath. I attempted to start over and forget about all our differences over this. But as long as you continue this false notion that somehow he won, I will continue with the truth. Regardless of how everything unfolded on Jan 6 and who it was supporting the big lie. Donald Trump is the most dangerous psychopathic liar today to the freedom of choice of the people of this nation. If by chance he defeats others in this country next year; He still is the most dangerous man in this country and for democracy, living today in the United States. And his supporters will go to any length to perpetuate his lies. You can spend all your energy supporting his big lie. And we can do this all again as we did before. There are spiritual truths. And those who have a strong intuition of what that truth is must stand forward. We cannot be intimidated and crushed by another Adolph Hitler in this world environment today.

For those supporting his big lie by being completely obsessed with defending him… For those who have been made bankrupt, for those in jail for perpetuating his lie. For those who want to be right at all costs. I say this; if you had practiced the truth. If you had developed intuition and discrimination in meditation and spiritual disciplines you would recognize the importance of what I have just said above without going through each little detail that can support his big lie and your personal convictions that he is somehow a righteous and truthful man. There is some evidence that will support any amount of a false narrative. Depending on how people reason. I do not dispute this. Hitler did like his dog and he was from most accounts a vegetarian. But can we say he was in his right mind? There were even good people that supported him not knowing the evil that possessed him. The same be said about the puff adder. He is dangerous and must be reckoned with as long as he crawls in our path and lingers in our home walls. He must be removed and be put in a safe place, where his venom will not be a danger to others.

I have come to this life-as I am also aware of some of my last life-for certain purposes.Your recent posts in support of a sociopath have made this even clearer seeing our views shown in relief. ( When I had finished this post I looked up and it was 1:11 AM, a number we are familiar with and it’s significance. ) One of those important purposes is to promote meditation. Eric, I thank you in supporting that purpose. Another is to separate truth from fiction. If you don’t care to support me in that purpose and have a different truth I’m ok with our differences. This too will pass. It just requires patience and the ability to keep our main objectives and goals consistent. So far we have done this. Let us continue to follow dharma and be of service to others; while gaining more wisdom in our own spiritual pursuits.

Thank You 😊  🙏 Brother. I appreciate your friendship!
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« Reply #17 on: Dec 28, 2023 03:33 pm »

I heard this phrase yesterday and thought it was really on point-
"What's happening is, as we all seek the truth, because the truth will set us free- we've all run into each other."
I see it as running into people who hold opposing views.

Why? Because the truth is all there is

In fact I think the same as you with regards to the development of intuition and discernment. It's the only way we'll be able to navigate all the fake news, deep fakes, AI control systems. It's easy to take media clips and make your point, and we even have corrupt court systems with DA's and judges working in a way that cement many false narratives.
But we know just because society operates with a particular lease on life, does not make it the correct one.

I believe many people who feel J6 a lie, are trusting their intuition. My self included. So it is definitely humorous to me that you'd say these things, while taking the opposite belief.

According to you I must stand forward with my strong intuition of the truth-

You think my world is crumbling when it comes to Donald Trump, but I think my world is actually opening up to many possibilities and seeing so much good out of what has happened. I see the world waking up, not dying. It's why I can point to other presidential candidates who carry the same energetic capacity as Donald Trump. Not the stuff you're focused on- I am talking about calling out the corruption, naming names, and attempting to fight the shadowy forces that run the world. RFK JR is one such a man, as well as Vivek Ramaswamy. And there will be more- because Donald Trump served as a great awakening for many people in our nation.

Like you many believe they should not be intimidated and crushed by an unelected authority attempting to dictate what is the truth. They are not supporting a lie, but they believe the same as you- that you are supporting the lie.

Seeing 1111 doesn't necessarily mean your way of thinking is right and mine is wrong. If truth is all there is, it definitely serves as an indicator of deeper contempltation. I see it as communication with Self... And ultimately, Self is all there is.

Yes, you're sharing in ways you think you are following your dharma- as are the many others who feel they are following their truth.

I am seeing a number prompt now... Does it mean only I am right and you are wrong? I don't think so.
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« Reply #18 on: Dec 28, 2023 07:03 pm »

First before responding to your post above…. I am happy to see your threads and posts about Robert Kennedy Jr. Although he may give the possibility of letting a psychopath get elected because of splitting up the election, which currently is determined mainly by two parties, I do not think that is his intention. Nor do I believe it is yours.

You have your narrative about Jan 6.  It is OK. Some of it may be true.  However, you would not have to spend all the energy on constructiing it if you, and those there last year, accepted the simple truth that Trump lost Eric. We have gone through that countless times, and more countless times, before I took them all off-all our posts that caused decisiveness, between us. Yours and mine included. My proof he lost and your continuing (I will clarify that remark below) your false narrative. We can go through it again if you’re up for it. There is now even more proof out there than ever before. All the violence on one big lie; Trump won. But he lost by a landslide. All the talk about voting machines that made mistakes; lies. All the talk about choosing false electorals; manipulation. All the evidence showing Donald Trump holding out; still true, an obsessed man desperate to be right. All the evidence supporting an improvised coup at the capital ….. shown by trials of witnesses and those involved have been prosecuted. The people owning voting machines have now sued incredible amounts. Networks that carried the lies like Fox News have payed hundreds of millions behind the scenes before being prosecuted. Trump has 91 charges that are felonies. Let them play out. We will see the results. Now he is just trying to delay them to claim immunity and excuse himself and all those that defend him, regardless if they all continue the lie. He is hoping to be president again to do that. It is 1984 come to life. Doublespeak has come to reality, a lie is made into a truth. The spiritual question is still this; what is truth? In all our discussions. And the spiritual message I continue to broadcast is that Donald Trump is a traitor to this country. Donald Trump continues to lie. He is a psychopathic liar. And he is the cause of all this misinformation. His lies have encouraged you to continue to give energy to his false narrative. Most the people he had even appointed to high positions in the government, except his family, say they could not support his narrative. We can bring them all up again. We can listen to their rebuttal of his lies. We can investigate the voting machines again. We can interview the witnessing people of Jan 6 again. We will come up with the same conclusion. And if you do not, so be it. Nothing will come of good from it.

Do you think that I see myself as an authority on the matter? Is anyone really an authority on anything? At some point we have to make decisions. I’ve made mine. And it appears you have made yours. Now we must live with them and the karma they bring with them. I’m ready to face my karma from such decisions, if you are ready to face yours, then what more is there to say?

Eric your world is crumbling when it comes to Donald Trump. Yes , that is my opinion. He is a loser. He is a fraud. He is dangerous to this country, and his ignorance and influence; a danger to the world. He must be stopped. And he will not stop on his own. We must stop him, because he is a psychopath. I attempted to start over and forget about all our differences over this. But as long as you continue this false notion that somehow he won, I will continue with the truth. Regardless of how everything unfolded on Jan 6 and who it was supporting the big lie. Donald Trump is the most dangerous psychopathic liar today to the freedom of choice of the people of this nation. If by chance he defeats others in this country next year; He still is the most dangerous man in this country and for democracy, living today in the United States. And his supporters will go to any length to perpetuate his lies. You can spend all your energy supporting his big lie. And we can do this all again as we did before. There are spiritual truths. And those who have a strong intuition of what that truth is must stand forward. We cannot be intimidated and crushed by another Adolph Hitler in this world environment today.

For those supporting his big lie by being completely obsessed with defending him… For those who have been made bankrupt, for those in jail for perpetuating his lie. For those who want to be right at all costs. I say this; if you had practiced the truth. If you had developed intuition and discrimination in meditation and spiritual disciplines you would recognize the importance of what I have just said above without going through each little detail that can support his big lie and your personal convictions that he is somehow a righteous and truthful man. There is some evidence that will support any amount of a false narrative. Depending on how people reason. I do not dispute this. Hitler did like his dog and he was from most accounts a vegetarian. But can we say he was in his right mind? There were even good people that supported him not knowing the evil that possessed him. The same be said about the puff adder. He is dangerous and must be reckoned with as long as he crawls in our path and lingers in our home walls. He must be removed and be put in a safe place, where his venom will not be a danger to others.

I have come to this life-as I am also aware of some of my last life-for certain purposes.Your recent posts in support of a sociopath have made this even clearer seeing our views shown in relief. ( When I had finished this post I looked up and it was 1:11 AM, a number we are familiar with and it’s significance. ) One of those important purposes is to promote meditation. Eric, I thank you in supporting that purpose. Another is to separate truth from fiction. If you don’t care to support me in that purpose and have a different truth I’m ok with our differences. This too will pass. It just requires patience and the ability to keep our main objectives and goals consistent. So far we have done this. Let us continue to follow dharma and be of service to others; while gaining more wisdom in our own spiritual pursuits.

Thank You 😊  🙏 Brother. I appreciate your friendship!


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February 14th, 2009
https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/2009/0214

" The undifferentiated and unpotentiated infinite Creator has no bias. There is one thing. That one thing is self-understood and self-grasped and is content. However, the infinite Creator, choosing by the first distortion of free will to know Itself, has created a system of densities through which all of its sparks may proceed in order to experience all that can be experienced, to satisfy all desires, and to move through all the learnings of each density. Each of you is a member of a third-density environment at this time…It is because of the opacity of the illusion and its relentless system of opposites that third density works. For third density is about making a choice, a very fundamental choice, of service to self or service to others. It is indeed desirable to increase that bias, attempting more and more to maximize service to others within your life and your thought, so that you may accelerate the rate of your own spiritual evolution. "
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/omtalks/the-daily-q-uote-t1942-s975.html#p30872
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Q'uote of the Day
February 14th, 2009
https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/2009/0214

" The undifferentiated and unpotentiated infinite Creator has no bias. There is one thing. That one thing is self-understood and self-grasped and is content. However, the infinite Creator, choosing by the first distortion of free will to know Itself, has created a system of densities through which all of its sparks may proceed in order to experience all that can be experienced, to satisfy all desires, and to move through all the learnings of each density. Each of you is a member of a third-density environment at this time…It is because of the opacity of the illusion and its relentless system of opposites that third density works. For third density is about making a choice, a very fundamental choice, of service to self or service to others. It is indeed desirable to increase that bias, attempting more and more to maximize service to others within your life and your thought, so that you may accelerate the rate of your own spiritual evolution. "
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/omtalks/the-daily-q-uote-t1942-s975.html#p30872

Thanks Brother Many times ‘I’ look at myself thinking, am ‘I’ really inhabiting this encasement? How am ‘I’ fooled to think it real? And ‘i’ see my SELF looking from the outside at this object with volition that ‘i’ have become.
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« Reply #20 on: Dec 29, 2023 12:54 am »

Hi Uwe,

I'm sorry if I've upset you. I just wanted to say I do appreciate all your contributions, including the photography you've shared here in our recent past.

I definitely have an Ego with biases. Likes/Dislikes, and attitudes towards certain issues that I think are true.

I have a serious inquiry here that maybe I've not been able to articulate, and am often matching the feeling of resistance because I am subconsciously trying to understand.

I work with a boss who says if Trump wins she will close her store down. That's how volatile the situation is. At the same time, she has employees who will be voting Trump. And there are a many great narratives that people are emotionally reactive towards. It doesn't have to be the drama here in the West. But people are unified in their emotions towards socially constructed narratives. And with the internet to connect us, things seem all the more intense.

We don't have to talk politics to talk about this. But I am noticing that it is becoming extremely difficult to navigate the polarized world in the, "my views are right" and "your views are wrong" category.

I prefer non-violence. I also don't mean to offend others by thinking and believing in the things I do. I can let something go if I am disturbing the community too.

I just want to know how to navigate the storm, because we will all be faced with something similar. I think this is especially true for 2024-2026. The world drama will be knocking at our door, and may even bust it down.

In a way, stepping into our biases is a normal and healthy part of fulfilling our desires. I do think we will suffer as long as we fail to recognize God behind everything.

So with the quote I've provided above there are some exercises the gentleman recommends. I don't understand exercise 1, but I do resonate with exercise #2- I believe exercise 2 with my entire heart... And yet, how easy do we forget that which we hold most sacred is made manifest even in the people we find so disagreeable?

This barrier is a challenge, and one I hope to overcome. In a way, these spiritual pressures and adversities are great opportunities. But I apologize for the headaches and the lone tangents.

Wishing you and everyone here a blessed day.

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" [10](https://www.lawofone.info/s/10).[14](https://www.lawofone.info/s/10#14) **Questioner:** For general development [of the] reader of this book, could you state some of the practices or ****exercises**** to perform to produce an acceleration toward the Law of One?

**Ra:** I am Ra.

****Exercise**** One. This is the most nearly centered and usable within your illusion complex. The moment contains love. That is the lesson/goal of this illusion or density. The ****exercise**** is to consciously seek that love in awareness and understanding distortions. The first attempt is the cornerstone. Upon this choosing rests the remainder of the life-experience of an entity. The second seeking of love within the moment begins the addition. The third seeking powers the second, the fourth powering or doubling the third. As with the previous type [of empowerment, there will be some loss of power due to flaws] within the seeking in the distortion of insincerity. However, the conscious statement of self to self of the desire to seek love is so central an act of will that, as before, the loss of power due to this friction is inconsequential.

****Exercise**** Two. The universe is one being. When a mind/body/spirit complex views another mind/body/spirit complex, see the Creator. This is an helpful ****exercise****.

****Exercise**** Three. Gaze within a mirror. See the Creator.

****Exercise**** Four. Gaze at the creation which lies about the mind/body/spirit complex of each entity. See the Creator.

The foundation or prerequisite of these ****exercises**** is a predilection towards what may be called meditation, contemplation, or prayer. With this attitude, these ****exercises**** can be processed. Without it, the data will not sink down into the roots of the tree of mind, thus enabling and ennobling the body and touching the spirit."

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« Reply #21 on: Dec 29, 2023 03:11 am »

Thank you. _^_ Angelic appreciation.
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« Reply #22 on: Dec 29, 2023 05:58 am »

Wow, no wonder Swami Vidyadhishananda calls Baba his Guru. What a beautiful light I feel coming from this man. He is beaming with innocence, and yet, sharing great wisdom.
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« Reply #23 on: Jan 09, 2024 05:45 am »


There is a film coming on 1/1/2024
https://j6truetimeline.com/

J6: A True Timeline

Thousands of crowdsourced video files. Hundreds of hours of CCTV footage. Dozens of police officer body cams. One True Timeline.

Do you know the whole story of January 6th?

Find out what really happened: 01/01/2024 http://J6TrueTimeline.com #J6TrueTimeline



https://open.ink/collections/j6

This is probably the most unbiased historical account you'll see to date concerning the events that transpired 1/6/2020. It's hours of footage from peoples cell phones, security camera, etc. to help contextualize the events as they occurred. No earlier presentation of this fated day has been made as clear as what you will see in this film.
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« Reply #24 on: Jan 09, 2024 06:34 am »

In the absence of mountains in Washington D.C. were these people mountain climbing up the capital walls for exercise?

Dramatic photo shows Trump supporters scaling Capitol wall.

As the rioters on Capitol Hill continue to overwhelm authorities, this photo will be one for the history books.

https://www.chron.com/news/nation-world/article/photo-capitol-lockdown-trump-supporter-riot-dc-15850767.php

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« Reply #25 on: Jan 09, 2024 07:29 am »

Steve, I hope you watched the film. It gave me sympathies for all parties. It is truly a heartbreaking moment and makes me nervous to protest anything. Why? Because tribalism. J6 was one of the largest protest in America's 21st century. And I can see, after watching this film, a lack of professionalism by the police- a diminished and emotional intelligence by the protestors, and these two things brought about a very unfortunate tale. The behaviors are appalling. I see as well, President Trump hadn't a clue at the exact moment the capitol was breached. Neither did the people inside the house. And then, to see Ashli Babbit die on film. I cried. I think it was her death that is the reason some of the police officers took a softened approach and allowed the protestors already inside the building free roam. No one wanted anyone to die.

I can see how the persecution of the people caught inside the capitol had an emotional weight behind it by the ones seeking justice. I don't think either side of the story, as its been presented to the people, is the right one.

Watching this film humanizes everything, and you realize there are no winners.

The image of people scaling the wall- there was a man climbing up the stairs by the time the breach happened. Then, he was made blind by tear gas. He tried to go back down the way he came. A police officer ended up shoving him off causing him to fall 25 feet before crashing onto the ground.

Yes, J6 will be a moment in history- it's a rather scary moment for sure. I only wish it did not escalate, and I question the provocateurs caught on film- and why the police tear gassed themselves multiple times(after being instructed by fellow officers not to deploy the gas) leaving ample opportunity for further advancement on the capitol? Again, when you watch the film- you realize we're all imperfect. Aside from Ray Epps who said, "I orchestrated it"(as a text message to his nephew) I think the police gassing themselves could be just dumb luck.

I am grateful I didn't go, because I was feeling encouraged to protest. But that level of tribalism is not something that I find appealing at all. Sometimes I think our collective intelligence as a nation has been reduced since our inception. Though we have freedom, we have responsibility in how we exert our freedom. It is entirely possible to protest without being violent. Then again, when you watch the film, you do see how the crowd was agitated and how Ray Epps encouraged the breach(literally at the front line of every removal of warning signs and fence barriacades). Considering emotions were high and intelligence was low, I understand how things escalated the way they did.
https://gab.com/TuckerCarlsonTweets/posts/111722933351901652

I can see how both sides of the story, prior to this film, have been presented in order to promote a particular view and advance personal agenda. But the reality is much simpler than what we've been told. (In my opinion)
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« Reply #26 on: Jan 09, 2024 03:22 pm »

I most likely will look at your video. Simply because you hope I will. Although I’ll remind you that I watched many of the videos and read many of the articles you provided, when the election results came in 2020 and facts are facts. Biden won. I think that reality of the situation was very simple also. We had a presidential election. And Biden won by a landslide also by countless electoral votes. We had election four years prior. I had no thoughts of protesting the results. Simple; Trump won that election. What we had after Biden won was an insurrection. What we had when Trump won is a lot of sad people. But the recognition that is how elections in a democracy work. You will not satisfy everyone. Although MAGA people seem to think we’d be better off without a democracy. Many countries have made that decision and now we see those countries full of political prisoners in their jails and poisoning as well as murder for those who disagree.

At times there are people who find my comments about Trump ‘obsessed’ or any number of other criticisms. And there were people who thought George Washington was obsessed about freeing us from King George and Lincoln was obsessed about freeing slaves. Or that Jesus was ‘obsessed’ with being a king. Or that Gandhi was obsessed about freeing India from the British. My reply is that there are certain truths worth remembering and standing up for, and that has always been seen in most every spiritual path in history.
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« Reply #27 on: Jan 09, 2024 04:47 pm »

I suspect the film will only strengthen your views. My personal and unpopular opinion? Trump is good karma. How so? Well-
If where we find ourselves is a reflection of our, 'collective consciousness' or a- 'sign of the times' and now is all there is-
I have a very opportunistic lens with reality.
Do I believe President Trump? That's not the question that matters. I believe Donald Trump believes Donald Trump. So he is unwittingly one of the most controversial figures of our time. In so doing, he is bringing hundreds of thousands of people closer to God.
Whether you are for, or against. Whether you are peaceful or hateful. The path you tread is bringing you closer in your Faith- and ultimately, Donald Trump is not the ultimate picture. The ultimate picture is what you discover in this life as a special path between you and God.


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As for the video- it has answered some of my questions, and continues to leave questions unanswered. I think Twitter/Facebook putting blue labels under the presidents post(before the election was certified) and censoring his video minutes after it was released highly suspicious. That level of big-tech interference is one that often gets lost as something warranting consideration.

Ultimately- the video has given me sympathies for both sides of the story. The story has been presented as two sides of a coin. And whatever side one finds themselves favoring, I believe both have been dramatized for personal gain. Again, I believe the matter is very simple. And I do not rule out election interference, FBI involvement and entrapment. There were plenty of anomalies that may just mean we are ignorant of how things work as a public, but these issues were needing attention nonetheless. Instead of properly addressing, the entire world is moving from hyper polarized views, from limited intelligence, from emotional reactions- and that's another part of the BIG PICTURE worthy of consideration.
 
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« Reply #28 on: Jan 09, 2024 05:10 pm »

I suspect the film will only strengthen your views. My personal and unpopular opinion? Trump is good karma. How so? Well-
If where we find ourselves is a reflection of our, 'collective consciousness' or a- 'sign of the times' and now is all there is-
I have a very opportunistic lens with reality.
Do I believe President Trump? That's not the question that matters. I believe Donald Trump believes Donald Trump. So he is unwittingly one of the most controversial figures of our time. In so doing, he is bringing hundreds of thousands of people closer to God.
Whether you are for, or against. Whether you are peaceful or hateful. The path you tread is bringing you closer in your Faith- and ultimately, Donald Trump is not the ultimate picture. The ultimate picture is what you discover in this life as a special path between you and

Eric you must be kidding. Since when does someone believe in their false notions of themselves does it make it convincing or right for that matter? Putin believed it right to invade Ukraine. Jung Un believes it right to protect himself from the aggression of other countries. And both leaders believe it right to imprison torture and murder those who disagree. Also Hitler believed it right that he was destined to be a world leader. And there are many religious leaders who believe they are right in their attempt to seize power from others; Bin Ladin being only one of the most recent. We had no choice but to stop their ignorance and insolence. Fuhrer Trump is no different. And actually he has done more to destroy our beliefs in God and country. His egotistical views have only led to more resentment, resistance and confusion which is the ‘hallmark’ of demonic actions.

Let us also look at a more familiar recent name from the Christian Religion. Jim Jones made claims of his own divinity. As a child, Jones developed an affinity for Pentecostalism and a desire to preach. Jones became progressively more controlling of his followers in Peoples Temple, which at its peak had over 3,000 members. Jones's followers engaged in a communal lifestyle. Like Trump, Jones developed connections with prominent politicians.

Representative Leo Ryan led a delegation to his commune in November of 1978 to investigate report of the abuse and allegations that he forced members to stay at the commune. While boarding a return flight with some former Temple members who wished to leave, Ryan and four others were murdered by gunmen from Jonestown. Jones then ordered a mass murder-suicide that claimed the lives of 909 commune members, 304 of them children; almost all of the members died by drinking Flavor Aid laced with cyanide.

Fuhrer Trump is similar to some of the personalities I have listed above. He is operating a cult of personality that ( in my opinion ) is detrimental to himself and his followers. This ‘cult’ is all about Donald Trump and not about the preservation of free elections and democracy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jones
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« Reply #29 on: Jan 09, 2024 07:22 pm »

Hi Steve  Smiley

Nope, not kidding. This is the current revelation and conclusion I have come to. Whether you agree or disagree with Trump, you are being drawn closer to your personal faith thanks to his incarnation.

So it would seem!

Cheers friend.
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