Sri Yukteswar and the Yugas

[guest587]

Excuse my naivety on the subject- is Yukteswar saying we've already had a golden age? And then, we somehow fell from grace, and have to go back to it?

Is he saying it's cyclical?

I wonder what the great fall could have been, and what it means for us- if we are evolutionary creatures, how then could we have all this biological knowledge reset with a blank slate?

Well. This may not sit well with others but I also had the thought today:

Consider that we are evolving from animal nature, then, I think- as a catalyst to entering into a higher age that some "evil men" are actually Gods chosen. Not that I believe God is fond of what man calls evil, but that maybe as a soul contract there are men who have committed great atrocities which have ultimately helped bring the evolution of mankind into a higher age. Did not Yogananda call himself a ruthless conqueror as one of his incarnations?

I think of the Law of One, which often talks about positive oriented beings and negative oriented beings- and the necessity and functions of such negative beings in a world of duality. I think we can evolve out of duality, I don't think evil actions need to take place... But I also think this is a school of hard knocks and we have both fight or flight, self preserving wisdom as well as selfless evolutionary wisdom.

It's also interesting to think just how intrinsic the biology of a person is with their spiritual reality. Not in all cases, but in many such cases, we inherit even things like addictive personality disorder from our lineage which provides its own karmic opportunities.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Excuse my naivety on the subject- is Yukteswar saying we've already had a golden age? And then, we somehow fell from grace, and have to go back to it?

Is he saying it's cyclical?

I wonder what the great fall could have been, and what it means for us- if we are evolutionary creatures, how then could we have all this biological knowledge reset with a blank slate?

Well. This may not sit well with others but I also had the thought today:

Consider that we are evolving from animal nature, then, I think- as a catalyst to entering into a higher age that some "evil men" are actually Gods chosen. Not that I believe God is fond of what man calls evil, but that maybe as a soul contract there are men who have committed great atrocities which have ultimately helped bring the evolution of mankind into a higher age. Did not Yogananda call himself a ruthless conqueror as one of his incarnations?

I think of the Law of One, which often talks about positive oriented beings and negative oriented beings- and the necessity and functions of such negative beings in a world of duality. I think we can evolve out of duality, I don't think evil actions need to take place... But I also think this is a school of hard knocks and we have both fight or flight, self preserving wisdom as well as selfless evolutionary wisdom.

It's also interesting to think just how intrinsic the biology of a person is with their spiritual reality. Not in all cases, but in many such cases, we inherit even things like addictive personality disorder from our lineage which provides its own karmic opportunities.

He is saying it is cyclical. No blank slate brother Eric. We maintain our present evolutionary status regardless of the yugas. If we continue to progress. There is no reset. Think about what you are saying. If we were to use your seemingly depressing notions Jesus would have had to reset when he was born into the lowest Kali Yuga. However he was born a Master and stayed that way for his mortal life on earth.

Sometimes evolved souls are born into the lower yugas to work out specific lessons of that period, and at times they even come with a mission to help people of that period evolve. Likewise there are at times dark presences that are born into the higher ages. It is not so cut and dry as your questions would appear.

And no Yogananda did not call himself a ‘ruthless conqueror’. Do we really know why or what William the Conqueror did during his stay on earth? In fact do we know for sure what happened in any one’s incarnation? Strangely enough most Christian’s believe that despite the remarkable existence Jesus lived, most Christians believed he lived the rather simple life of a carpenter for 15 years going unnoticed with nothing to write about him during this period in the Bible; absolutely nothing!! Now we have a totally different narrative, never recorded in the Bible, by the ‘wise men of the east’ who say he spent his time in India and Nepal during those 15 ‘lost years’.

Yes we have already had a golden age many times and we will again. Anyone committing ‘atrocities’ are creating very difficult karma for themselves. How it affects others is a matter of their choice. But it is sometimes true that pain is the prod to remembrance, those who inflict suffering on others show a lack of conscious and empathy and will have to develop those qualities to evolve out of their ignorance. Whether it is in a higher period, which has more evolved souls, or a lower period where they are usually more suited because of the soul shadow they carry with them.

Yes we live in a duality that gives us the free choice to rise above our present lineage. And people like Amma did that. Both Yogananda and her have abusive brothers. Yet they were able to rise out of their lineage and embrace a higher vibration, just as did Arjuna in the Bhagavad Gita. But he did have to fight his evil tendencies as seen in his brother the two sides of a family – the Pandavas and the Kauravas.

[guest587]

Yes that makes sense. And here are some quotes from Yogananda on evil, both shadow and light belong to One God. 
https://yogananda.com.au/gurus/yogananda_quotes34evil.html

It's nice to know we don't lose any of that wisdom, or that the potential is there- I suppose it's equally true as Sadhguru has stated that we can also revert back into animal mind quite easily.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Yes that makes sense. And here are some quotes from Yogananda on evil, both shadow and light belong to One God. 
https://yogananda.com.au/gurus/yogananda_quotes34evil.html

It's nice to know we don't lose any of that wisdom, or that the potential is there- I suppose it's equally true as Sadhguru has stated that we can also revert back into animal mind quite easily.

It’s much easier to slide down an incline than to struggle back up. Whether we are sliding down or climbing up the slide, it helps to keep our consciousness on God. Such is the paradox of the duality we have been thrown into.

[guest587]

In fact do we know for sure what happened in any one’s incarnation? Strangely enough most Christian’s believe that despite the remarkable existence Jesus lived, most Christians believed he lived the rather simple life of a carpenter for 15 years going unnoticed with nothing to write about him during this period in the Bible; absolutely nothing!! Now we have a totally different narrative, never recorded in the Bible, by the ‘wise men of the east’ who say he spent his time in India and Nepal during those 15 ‘lost years’.

Yes we have already had a golden age many times and we will again.

Yes we live in a duality that gives us the free choice to rise above our present lineage. And people like Amma did that. Both Yogananda and her have abusive brothers. Yet they were able to rise out of their lineage and embrace a higher vibration, just as did Arjuna in the Bhagavad Gita. But he did have to fight his evil tendencies as seen in his brother the two sides of a family – the Pandavas and the Kauravas.

Steve, pretty curious timing that you mentioned the first 15 years not recorded... and I read this just today- part 2 of this book
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/The_anti-Christ_%28IA_antichrist00carerich%29.pdf

Talked about in this thread:
http://spiritualportal.net/index.php/topic,8575.msg42147/topicseen.html#msg42147 - Christianity & The Spine

Every twenty-eight and one-half days, when the moon is in the sign of the zodiac that the sun was in at the birth of the native, there is a seed or Psycho—Physical germ born in the or out of, the Solar Plexus (the Manger) and this seed is taken up by the nerves or branches of the Pneumo gastric nerve, and becomes the "Fruit of the Tree of Life," or the "Tree of good and evil"—viz : good if saved and "cast upon the waters" (circulation) to reach the Pineal Gland; and evil if eaten or consumed in sexual expression on physical plane, or by alcoholic drinks, or gluttony that causes ferment—acid and even alcohol in intestinal tract—thus—"No drunkard can inherit the Kingdom of Heaven" for acids and alcohol cut, or chemically split, the oil that unites with the mineral salts in the body and thus produces the monthly seed.

This seed, having the odor of fish was called Jesus, from Ichtos, (Greek for fish) and Nun (Hebrew for fish) thus "Joshua the son of Nun," "I am the bread of life;" "I am the bread that
came down from heaven;" "Give us this day our daily bread." The fruit of the Tree of Life, therefore, is the "Fish-bread" of which thou shalt not eat on the plane of animal or Adam (earthdust of the earth plane) : but to "Him that overcometh will I give to eat of the fruit of the Tree of Life" because he saved it and it returned to him in the cerebellum, the home of the Spiritual
man, the Ego.

The cerebellum is heart shaped and called the heart in Greek —thus "As a man thinketh in his heart so is he."

The bodily organ that men in their ignorance call heart is termed divider or pump in Greek and Hebrew. Our blood divider is not the button that we touch when we think, but it is the upper
lobe of cerebellum that vibrates thought. The lower lobe is the animal (mortal) lobe that governs the animal world—that section of the body below the Solar Plexus, called lower Egypt—natural
body—kingdom of earth—Appollyon—the Devil (lived, spelled backward) Satan (Saturn governs the bowels), etc. Fire and Brimstone (the lake of fire) comes from the fact that sulphur (brimstone) is the prime factor in generating the rate of motion called heat, and overeating develops a surplus of sulphur.

The Seed, born every twenty-eight and one-half days, making 13 in 365 days, that is 13 months, remains two and one-half days in Bethlehem (house of bread), then is carried up Pneumo
(or vagus) gastric nerve and across the medulla oblongata and enters the cerebellum to remain two and one-half days, thus —"When Jesus was about twelve He appeared in the Temple
teaching the doctors."

The age of puberty is about twelve. Then the first horn seed appears and the sensation caused by its vibration tempts the native on the lower plane to do the thing that slays it, which is fully
explained in Genesis by the serpent—sex desire—tempting Adamand Ev€ (allegorical characters). From Krishna to Moses and Jesus serpents and Pharaohs and He-rods have striven to slay the
first born.

From the age of twelve to thirty in the life of Jesus nothing is recorded, for twelve refers to puberty, and 30 or 3 means physical, mental and spiritual, viz: body, (flesh or soul) fluids
and Spirit (the Ego).

Breath is translated "soul" over 500 times in the Bible, therefore soul is precipitated air (spirit) which may be lost in physical desire and expression (waste or sin, viz: to fall short) or saved
by Regeneration. Read Matt. 17-28; also 1st Epistle of John 3-9. So, at the age of 30, Jesus, the seed, began to preach to body, soul and spirit, and as the seed was (or is) descending the spinal cord, the substance of which is symbolized by a formula of characters I. O. H. N. (as we symbolize water by H2O) it was baptized of John (not hy John). Synonyms: — Saul, John, Christ, Or (gold). Jordan (word. Lord, oil, ointment).

Baptize is from the Greek Bapto, the effect of two chemicals when they unite and produce force that neither possessed singly. Here the seed, immersed in the oil, John, was so increased in
power that "The Spirit of God descended like a dove and a voice out of Heaven said, 'This is my beloved son,' " etc.

Jordan means the descender—Dove, (to dive, a diver—see dictionary). Thus Jesus, the seed, was the son of man—the car- penter or builder until it was baptized in the precious ointment
that was secreted from the Most High (brain) and descended the spinal cord and was thus given power to start on its journey to Jerusalem (God's City of Peace) and to be crucified at Place of
Skull, then remain two and one-half days in the tomb, and on the third day ascend to the Father.

As this seed consumes its force every twenty-eight and onehalf days and another (born first) comes out of the Solar Plexus(Bttiilehem), we see why he was (is) a "Sacrifice for our sins";
also we see that, as this seed, taking on the Christ oil, is enabled to reach the pineal gland and cause it to vibrate at a rate that heals all manner of diseases—that the statement "The blood of
Christ cleanseth from all sin" or deficiencies viz : falling short of substance is, literally true."

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Eric I believe you lived a life of a hunting Indian at one time so your body still craves the nourishment of meat. Quite frankly I think I get enough or more than enough of nourishment for energy to sustain me. I eat a lot of almond butter in drinks and sandwiches. And I just got a bag of hazel nuts and walnuts. I believe that this is how vegans accomplish their energy needs.

But I am not a vegan … at least not presently. I buy a lot of yogurt and often add almond milk or cows milk to my blended drinks. I also eat for instance, a lot of goats milk 🥛 and cheese when it is available at a decent price.

I see a lot of fishermen where I meditate jog and meditate in the woods. At no time do I insult them with my dietary habits. Not everyone is attempting liberation in this lifetime or even spiritual experience. Most people still have no idea 🤷‍♂️ about enlightenment and instead are enthralled with Gods creation to the point of being locked into life after life in this material plain. However we are born into this Bronze Age where it is no longer necessary to be a hunter for our dietary needs. So if we choose foods that more suit our spiritual body it gives a faster route to spiritual awakening. Not that tribal people and other wanderers do not have a spiritual connection. I have seen the darkness in the eyes and material vibes that manifest in the bodies of those who indulge heavier in meat than others. I think you are making the adaptations necessary to your spiritual life as you see fit and I have done the same. I have seen how my thoughts have also deceived me in my mind as well. I have had to constantly reorient my behaviors and attitudes to reflect more of a spiritual nature. All of us make the adaptive choices that suit us best in our evolving environments as well, which also influence our spiritual practices for good or bad.

What amazed me about the Holy Science is that in it Sri Yukteswar explains biologically and environmentally why a vegetarian diet is best suited for a spiritual aspirant. It may interest you to read at some point.

https://archive.org/details/the-holy-science/page/n8/mode/1up

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There is much about the yugas in the free download provided here. Below are some of Sri Yukteswar’s comments about the ‘ natural ‘ food for humans.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

What is natural food for man?

First, to select our natural food, our observation should be directed to the formation of the organs that aid in digestion and nutrition, the teeth and digestive canal; to the natural tendency of the organs of sense which guide animals to their food; and to the nourishment of the young.

Observation of teeth. By observation of the teeth we find that in carnivorous animals the incisors are little developed, but the canines are of striking length, smooth and pointed, to seize the prey. The molars also are pointed; these points, however, do not meet, but fit closely side by side to separate the muscular fibers.

In the herbivorous animals the incisors are strikingly developed, the canines are stunted (though occasionally developed into weapons, as in elephants), the molars are broad-topped and furnished with enamel on the sides only.

In the frugivorous all the teeth are of nearly the same height; the canines are little projected, conical, and blunt (obviously not intended for seizing prey but for exertion of strength). The molars are broad-topped and furnished at the top with enamel folds to prevent waste caused by their side motion, but not pointed for chewing flesh.

In omnivorous animals such as bears, on the other hand, the incisors resemble those of the herbivorous, the canines are like those of the carnivorous, and the molars are both pointed and broadtopped to serve a twofold purpose.

Now if we observe the formation of the teeth in man we find that they do not resemble those of the carnivorous, neither do they resemble the teeth of the herbivorous or the omnivorous. They do resemble, exactly, those of the frugivorous animals. The reasonable inference, therefore, is that man is a frugivorous or fruit-eating animal.*

Observation of the digestive canal. By observation of the digestive canal we find that the bowels of carnivorous animals are 3 to 5 times the length of their body, measuring from the mouth to the anus; and their stomach is almost spherical. The bowels of the herbivorous are 20 to 28 times the length of their body and their stomach is more extended and of compound build. But the bowels of the frugivorous animals are I0 to 12 times the length of their body; their stomach is somewhat broader than that of the carnivorous and has a continuation in the duodenum serving the purpose of a second stomach.

This is exactly the formation we find in human beings, though Anatomy says that the human bowels are 3 to 5 times the length of man’s body— making a mistake by measuring the body from the crown to the soles, instead of from mouth to anus. Thus we can again draw the inference that man is, in all probability, a frugivorous animal.

Observation of organs of sense.

By observation of the natural tendency of the organs of sense—the guideposts for determining what is nutritious—by which all animals are directed to their food, we find that when the carnivorous animal finds prey, he becomes so much delighted that his eyes begin to sparkle; he boldly seizes the prey and greedily laps the jetting blood. On the contrary, the herbivorous animal refuses even his natural food, leaving it untouched, if it is sprinkled with a little blood. His senses of smell and sight lead him to select grasses and other herbs for his food, which he tastes with delight. Similarly with the frugivorous animals, we find that their senses always direct them to fruits of the trees and field.

In men of all races we find that their senses of smell, sound, and sight never lead them to slaughter animals; on the contrary they cannot bear even the sight of such killings. Slaughterhouses are always recommended to be removed far from the towns; men often pass strict ordinances forbidding the uncovered transportation of flesh meats. Can flesh then be considered the natural food of man, when both his eyes and his nose are so much 66 THE HOLY SCIENCE
against it, unless deceived by flavors of spices, salt, and sugar? On the other hand, how delightful do we find the fragrance of fruits, the very sight of which often makes the mouth water! It may also be noticed that various grains and roots possess an agreeable odor and taste, though faint, even when unprepared. Thus again, we are led to infer from these observations that man was intended to be a frugivorous animal.*

Observation of the nourishment of the young.

By observation of the nourishment of the young we find that milk is undoubtedly the food of the newborn babe. Abundant milk is not supplied in the breasts of the mother if she does not take fruits, grains, and vegetables as her natural food.

Cause of disease. Hence from these observations the only conclusion that can reasonably be drawn is that various grains, fruits, roots, and—for beverage—milk, and pure water openly exposed to air and sun are decidedly the best natural food for man. These, being congenial to the system when taken according to the power of the digestive organs, well chewed and mixed with saliva, are always easily assimilated.

Other foods are unnatural to man and being uncongenial to the system are necessarily foreign to it; when they enter the stomach, they are not properly assimilated. Mixed with the blood, they accumulate in the excretory and other organs not properly adapted to them. When they cannot find their way out, they subside in tissue crevices by the law of gravitation; and, being fermented, produce diseases, mental and physical, and ultimately lead to premature death.

Children’s development.

Experiment also proves that the nonirritant diet natural to the vegetarian is, almost without exception, admirably suited to children’s development, both physical and mental. Their minds, understanding, will, the principal faculties, temper, and general disposition are also properly developed.

* “And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.” — Genesis 1:29. (Publisher's Note)


* Fruit comprises any part of plant life useful to man. The fruitarian diet referred to by Swami Sri Yukteswar includes vegetables, nuts, and grains. (Publisher’s Note)

[guest587]

Thanks Steve,

Casey is a fruitarian and has spoken highly on the subject. I was told by my friend who introduced me to AoY that I would like this book. Thanks for the link!

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Thanks Steve,

Casey is a fruitarian and has spoken highly on the subject. I was told by my friend who introduced me to AoY that I would like this book. Thanks for the link!

You bring up Casey quite often. It would be nice to have such a one’s friendship!

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Natural living calms passions. We find that when extraordinary means such as excessive fasting, scourging, or monastic confinement are resorted to for the purpose of suppressing the sexual passions, these means seldom produce the desired effect. Experiment shows, however, that man can easily overcome these passions, the archenemy of morality, by natural living on a nonirritant diet, above referred to; thereby men gain a calmness of mind which every psychologist knows is the most favorable to mental activity and to a clear understanding, as well as to a judicial way of thinking.

Sexual desire. Something more should be said here about the natural instinct of propagation,

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which is, next to the instinct of self-preservation, the strongest in the animal body. Sexual desire, like all other desires, has a normal and an abnormal or diseased state, the latter resulting only from the foreign matter accumulated by unnatural living as mentioned above. In the sexual desire everyone has a very accurate thermometer to indicate the condition of his health. This desire is forced from its normal state by the irritation of nerves that results from the pressure of foreign matter accumulated in the system, which pressure is exerted on the sexual apparatus and is at first manifested by an increased sexual desire followed by a gradual decrease of potency.

This sexual desire in its normal state makes man quite free from all disturbing lusts, and operates on the organism (awaking a wish for appeasement) only infrequently. Here again experiment shows that this desire, like all other desires, is always normal in individuals who lead a natural life as mentioned.

The root of the tree of life. The sexual organ—the junction of important nerve extremities, particularly of the sympathetic and spinal nerves (the principal nerves of the abdomen) which, through their connection with the brain, are capable of enlivening the whole system—is in a sense the root of the tree of life. Man well-instructed in the proper use of sex can keep his body and THE

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mind in proper health and can live a pleasant life throughout.

The practical principles of sexual health are not taught because the public regards the subject as unclean and indecent. Thus blinded, mankind presumes to clothe Nature in a veil because she seems to them impure, forgetting that she is always clean and that everything impure and improper lies in man’s ideas, and not in Nature herself. It is clear therefore that man, not knowing the truth about the dangers of misuse of the sexual power, and being compelled to wrong practices by the nervous irritation resulting from unnatural living, suffers troublesome diseases in life and ultimately becomes a victim of premature death.

Dwelling place of man.

Secondly, about our dwelling place. We can easily understand, when we feel displeasure on entering a crowded room after breathing fresh air on a mountaintop or in an expanse of field or garden, that the atmosphere of the town or any crowded place is quite an unnatural dwelling place. The fresh atmosphere of the mountaintop, or of the field or garden, or of a dry place under trees covering a large plot of land and freely ventilated with fresh air is the proper dwelling place for man according to Nature.

The company we should keep.

And thirdly, as to the company we should keep. Here also, if we listen to the dictates of our conscience and con-

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sult our natural liking, we will at once find that we favor those persons whose magnetism affects us harmoniously, who cool our system, internally invigorate our vitality, develop our natural love, and thus relieve us of our miseries and administer peace to us. This is to say, we should be in the company of the Sat or Savior and should avoid that of the Asat, as described before. By keeping the company of Sat (the Savior) we are enabled to enjoy perfect health, physical and mental, and our life is prolonged. If on the other hand we disobey the warning of Mother Nature, without listening to the dictates of our pure conscience, and keep the company of whatever has been designated as Asat, an opposite effect is produced and our health is impaired and our life shortened.

Necessity of natural living and purity.

Thus natural living is helpful for the practice of Yama, the ascetic forbearances as explained earlier. Purity of mind and body being equally important in the practice of Niyama, the ascetic observances already explained, every attempt should be made to attain that purity.

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Thus ends Sri Yukteswar’s commentary on the best suited diet for the spiritual aspirant, the environment to choose in this quest as well as the company that encourages natural living suited for the spiritual life.

[guest587]

Yes, I am inspired by Casey's website and have found her to be a big support system.

You have been as well. I am hoping we can talk more about what you've written above on the phone soon, if time permits. I may not be available until Tuesday.

But here's what I found my self just saying over at the other forum,

"What I really need to work on, and be careful with, is my sexual energy. I actually enjoy my sexual energy and don't think that's what's wrong but it is how I put it out there that concerns me. I don't want to creep or force myself, or create awkward exchange. I want the fun to be there, but in a mutually beneficial kind of way. At times it would seem my carnal desires cloud the judgement and fantasy becomes stronger than reality. The urge to satisfy that impulse can become intoxicating and pushes me to an irrational edge. I would like to learn how to transform those primal energies and carry them up the spine as was mentioned in the recent video you shared. I did not see any technique for how to do so in the book."

So you see- we are more aligned than either of us know.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Yes, I am inspired by Casey's website and have found her to be a big support system.

You have been as well. I am hoping we can talk more about what you've written above on the phone soon, if time permits. I may not be available until Tuesday.

But here's what I found my self just saying over at the other forum,

"What I really need to work on, and be careful with, is my sexual energy. I actually enjoy my sexual energy and don't think that's what's wrong but it is how I put it out there that concerns me. I don't want to creep or force myself, or create awkward exchange. I want the fun to be there, but in a mutually beneficial kind of way. At times it would seem my carnal desires cloud the judgement and fantasy becomes stronger than reality. The urge to satisfy that impulse can become intoxicating and pushes me to an irrational edge. I would like to learn how to transform those primal energies and carry them up the spine as was mentioned in the recent video you shared. I did not see any technique for how to do so in the book."

So you see- we are more aligned than either of us know.

We have been talking about the techniques here now since this site started. As you know I just gave you many techniques here from Sri Yukteswar’s Holy Science. What has become habit over many incarnations is not solved over night and perhaps not even in one lifetime; as I myself have observed.

In the last readings we have discussed these factors as contributing to creating better habits; environment, company and the dwelling place of man. But we have already been exposed to Kriya which reverses the flow of energy up the spine. And last, but not least the grace of God and the company of the gurus.

I think it wise to also recognize that balance plays a part in many areas of our life, especially with a subject like preservation of the species. Someone wanted to make human beings and their lives important and so having them multiply was made much easier with a strong sexual orientation. The paradox of life is God’s rather complex Conundrum of a spiritual existence contrasted by the proliferation of the species.

You are part of my consciousness, we work on this together Brother. Today I’m going back to the woods. The beauty of nature is one of the best ways I’ve found to keep on track with meditation, energizing, exercise and mindfulness of higher states of consciousness.

[guest587]

Enjoy Brother Steve. _^_

I may go back to practicing Gurunaths sun bathing Kriya exercises. But one day I would love when we finally meet to learn the kriya techniques you practice.

Here is something over at the galactic travel channel forum, that acknowledges my recent plight with self:

Q'uote of the Day
January 10th, 2009
https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/2009/0110

" …We would encourage those who seek to become ever more full of light and more transparent to the will of the infinite One; to examine with love and not with judgment those moments of temptation, those time of listening to the insidious voice that would distract you and use up the energy of the day in doing those things which, upon thought, you may not prefer to do.…As you stand closer to the light you see every blemish, every chink in the armor of light that lies within yourself. And that too is a great temptation. It is a temptation to move away from spontaneity and being present in the moment, to turn to self-judgment and self-recrimination because you see these self-perceived imperfections. And yet, this too is the shadow side of self, that insidious voice that takes you away from the straight path of being transparent to the light and open to the moment, so that you may cooperate with whatever is occurring, whether it would seem to be a positive experience or a negative one. "

Please keep the following in mind though..

"There is no such thing as a mistake, because the results of that mistake will inevitably true themselves through time, bringing you onto the path you chose before incarnation by a series of serendipitous turns and twists. Consequently, you can rest from a concern that you can get off the track in a final or permanent way. The track goes with you and a homing sense within you shall steer you in whatever vector is necessary back toward your true and fundamental desire."

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"There is no such thing as a mistake, because the results of that mistake will inevitably true themselves through time, bringing you onto the path you chose before incarnation by a series of serendipitous turns and twists. Consequently, you can rest from a concern that you can get off the track in a final or permanent way. The track goes with you and a homing sense within you shall steer you in whatever vector is necessary back toward your true and fundamental desire."

= Be to nice yourself

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/omtalks/the-daily-q-uote-t1942-s645.html#p28999

[Jitendra Hydonus]

If we don’t go to hell in a hand basket, enjoying the ride, we will meet in heaven in a mind twizzler.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Enjoy Brother Steve. _^_

I may go back to practicing Gurunaths sun bathing Kriya exercises. But one day I would love when we finally meet to learn the kriya techniques you practice.

Here is something over at the galactic travel channel forum, that acknowledges my recent plight with self:

Q'uote of the Day
January 10th, 2009
https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/2009/0110

" …We would encourage those who seek to become ever more full of light and more transparent to the will of the infinite One; to examine with love and not with judgment those moments of temptation, those time of listening to the insidious voice that would distract you and use up the energy of the day in doing those things which, upon thought, you may not prefer to do.…As you stand closer to the light you see every blemish, every chink in the armor of light that lies within yourself. And that too is a great temptation. It is a temptation to move away from spontaneity and being present in the moment, to turn to self-judgment and self-recrimination because you see these self-perceived imperfections. And yet, this too is the shadow side of self, that insidious voice that takes you away from the straight path of being transparent to the light and open to the moment, so that you may cooperate with whatever is occurring, whether it would seem to be a positive experience or a negative one. "

Please keep the following in mind though..

"There is no such thing as a mistake, because the results of that mistake will inevitably true themselves through time, bringing you onto the path you chose before incarnation by a series of serendipitous turns and twists. Consequently, you can rest from a concern that you can get off the track in a final or permanent way. The track goes with you and a homing sense within you shall steer you in whatever vector is necessary back toward your true and fundamental desire."

And
"There is no such thing as a mistake, because the results of that mistake will inevitably true themselves through time, bringing you onto the path you chose before incarnation by a series of serendipitous turns and twists. Consequently, you can rest from a concern that you can get off the track in a final or permanent way. The track goes with you and a homing sense within you shall steer you in whatever vector is necessary back toward your true and fundamental desire."

= Be to nice yourself

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/omtalks/the-daily-q-uote-t1942-s645.html#p28999

Have to say brother that the last entry appears closer to the truth or at least the understanding then the previous one below... but then again this thread has moved in different directions since its inception and the contribution below takes much more thought and technical understanding. i think about it though; and at times i come up with more simplistic explanations for the Fathers will. (just a jab in the dark to find meaning for myself.) One of them is that i believe we are constantly challenged to expand our notions of beauty and not get hung up or obsessed about finding beauty in just for instance a body, but rather to expand our notions of the beauty of the body to the wonder of God's creation, the beauty of nature, the ocean, the mountains, the stars and expansion of the sky, an increasing appreciation of sound and spiritual upliftment in certain musical expression and art, The beauty of all the different expressions of God's thought in different perspectives..... and lastly, the wonder and beauty in our own self and soul. This takes a lot of redirection of our energies and thought patterns.

Talked about in this thread:
http://spiritualportal.net/index.php/topic,8575.msg42147/topicseen.html#msg42147 - Christianity & The Spine

Every twenty-eight and one-half days, when the moon is in the sign of the zodiac that the sun was in at the birth of the native, there is a seed or Psycho—Physical germ born in the or out of, the Solar Plexus (the Manger) and this seed is taken up by the nerves or branches of the Pneumo gastric nerve, and becomes the "Fruit of the Tree of Life," or the "Tree of good and evil"—viz : good if saved and "cast upon the waters" (circulation) to reach the Pineal Gland; and evil if eaten or consumed in sexual expression on physical plane, or by alcoholic drinks, or gluttony that causes ferment—acid and even alcohol in intestinal tract—thus—"No drunkard can inherit the Kingdom of Heaven" for acids and alcohol cut, or chemically split, the oil that unites with the mineral salts in the body and thus produces the monthly seed.

This seed, having the odor of fish was called Jesus, from Ichtos, (Greek for fish) and Nun (Hebrew for fish) thus "Joshua the son of Nun," "I am the bread of life;" "I am the bread that
came down from heaven;" "Give us this day our daily bread." The fruit of the Tree of Life, therefore, is the "Fish-bread" of which thou shalt not eat on the plane of animal or Adam (earthdust of the earth plane) : but to "Him that overcometh will I give to eat of the fruit of the Tree of Life" because he saved it and it returned to him in the cerebellum, the home of the Spiritual
man, the Ego.

The cerebellum is heart shaped and called the heart in Greek —thus "As a man thinketh in his heart so is he."

The bodily organ that men in their ignorance call heart is termed divider or pump in Greek and Hebrew. Our blood divider is not the button that we touch when we think, but it is the upper
lobe of cerebellum that vibrates thought. The lower lobe is the animal (mortal) lobe that governs the animal world—that section of the body below the Solar Plexus, called lower Egypt—natural
body—kingdom of earth—Appollyon—the Devil (lived, spelled backward) Satan (Saturn governs the bowels), etc. Fire and Brimstone (the lake of fire) comes from the fact that sulphur (brimstone) is the prime factor in generating the rate of motion called heat, and overeating develops a surplus of sulphur.

The Seed, born every twenty-eight and one-half days, making 13 in 365 days, that is 13 months, remains two and one-half days in Bethlehem (house of bread), then is carried up Pneumo
(or vagus) gastric nerve and across the medulla oblongata and enters the cerebellum to remain two and one-half days, thus —"When Jesus was about twelve He appeared in the Temple
teaching the doctors."

The age of puberty is about twelve. Then the first horn seed appears and the sensation caused by its vibration tempts the native on the lower plane to do the thing that slays it, which is fully
explained in Genesis by the serpent—sex desire—tempting Adamand Ev€ (allegorical characters). From Krishna to Moses and Jesus serpents and Pharaohs and He-rods have striven to slay the
first born.

From the age of twelve to thirty in the life of Jesus nothing is recorded, for twelve refers to puberty, and 30 or 3 means physical, mental and spiritual, viz: body, (flesh or soul) fluids
and Spirit (the Ego).

Breath is translated "soul" over 500 times in the Bible, therefore soul is precipitated air (spirit) which may be lost in physical desire and expression (waste or sin, viz: to fall short) or saved
by Regeneration. Read Matt. 17-28; also 1st Epistle of John 3-9. So, at the age of 30, Jesus, the seed, began to preach to body, soul and spirit, and as the seed was (or is) descending the spinal cord, the substance of which is symbolized by a formula of characters I. O. H. N. (as we symbolize water by H2O) it was baptized of John (not hy John). Synonyms: — Saul, John, Christ, Or (gold). Jordan (word. Lord, oil, ointment).

Baptize is from the Greek Bapto, the effect of two chemicals when they unite and produce force that neither possessed singly. Here the seed, immersed in the oil, John, was so increased in
power that "The Spirit of God descended like a dove and a voice out of Heaven said, 'This is my beloved son,' " etc.

Jordan means the descender—Dove, (to dive, a diver—see dictionary). Thus Jesus, the seed, was the son of man—the car- penter or builder until it was baptized in the precious ointment
that was secreted from the Most High (brain) and descended the spinal cord and was thus given power to start on its journey to Jerusalem (God's City of Peace) and to be crucified at Place of
Skull, then remain two and one-half days in the tomb, and on the third day ascend to the Father.

As this seed consumes its force every twenty-eight and onehalf days and another (born first) comes out of the Solar Plexus(Bttiilehem), we see why he was (is) a "Sacrifice for our sins";
also we see that, as this seed, taking on the Christ oil, is enabled to reach the pineal gland and cause it to vibrate at a rate that heals all manner of diseases—that the statement "The blood of
Christ cleanseth from all sin" or deficiencies viz : falling short of substance is, literally true."