Gab

[guest88]

The gift of gab, at gab.com

 

[guest587]

"I have literally everything I could ever want in life. A beautiful healthy family, a safe home, my entire extended family and friends work with me and are taken care of. I want for nothing. I am blessed beyond measure.

This has always been about the cause for me. Not power, money, or fame. I’m going to continue working diligently to build parallel systems for the glory of God because that is what God put me on this earth to do." ~Andrew Torba, CEO of GAB

[Jitendra Hydonus]

If you are happy with them i’m happy for you. For me, I can think of no single source that has been more destructive to my understanding of God and meditation as Christianity and Christian broadcast. There is a prevailing undercurrent of bigotry that has led to harassment, false accusations, false and useless conversion tactics, legal challenges, and finally suppression of the true universal significance, meaning and experience of spirituality.

[guest587]

I realize a lot of that has to do with your own experience growing up in a heavy Christian society while being drawn to Hindu philosophy. It's given you a perspective on life and a "thing to look out for." That's okay. I'm happy you would appreciate my sharing. I meant to include, in my last post- despite our differences I sincerely believe we're being lead to the same place. By Gods Grace. If it isn't obvious now, it will be.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

An example of the total bigotry of Andrew Torba and his gab.

Unapologetic Christian nationalism is what will save the United States of America because only Jesus Christ can save America ~Andrew Torba

https://www.flickr.com/photos/mfairlady/50976975816/in/album-72157717197865763/

[guest587]

Andrew says what he says because he see's a world where Christianity is attacked and a cancel culture/overly apologetic and excessive political correctness(aka tyranny) has taken over the social media platforms. He has insights you don't, just as you have insights he does not. If you solely isolate these few sentences you can make him out to be whatever you want- I've personally observed him tolerate various religions and creeds on his platform. Yes he proclaims Jesus Christ is King. I do not have a problem with that. Not only does he tolerate folks of different creeds he welcomes them with a kind heart and allows free speech to flourish. You have no idea what he was going through when he said that, and/or the context behind the statement. Enemies of free speech will spend their precious time stalking Torbas account to make a case out of his post(clinging like dingleberries) and attempt to put Gab followers in the following light: Right-wing extremist("far right" are weaponized words just like "conspiracy theorists)", Christian Zealots, Racist, Bigots and Hateful people. It doesn't mean these categories don't exist- I'm saying that's not what Gab is, not who Andrew is. If you continue to share all the negative things you see about the man I think it's because you are drowning in your own bias and unresolved traumas. From my personal experience, his "GAB" is not "total bigotry."

You've made a thread at one point explaining why you avoid the platform like the plague, so in what right mind do you think you know what you're talking about? You've seen a few things wrong and think you have it all figured out? But I suppose you do see something after-all, that's the beauty of having your own filter. You can't help but have a filter... It's called life experience. I'll just say this... It's better you make peace as you have with your initial reply than to continually poke a bear. You wonder why I speak so crudely sometimes it's because I can't help but feel as if you haven't learned. It's quite infuriating. I used to think it was intentional. Then I realized it's just who you are, nothing wrong with that. I know I haven't been agreeable at times either. We can each work on something when it comes to communicating with the other. The way I look at it is this... How do we want to remember each other?

[Jitendra Hydonus]

I think the point is that one dimensional religious approaches only propagate the original problem of Jesus .
that  the Biblical scholars of the time could not accept that a ‘lowly’ Jesus who was born to a carpenter could be the ‘King’ they we’re looking for. In the same way most Christians today cannot accept that a Hindu monk or female saint could be a spiritual giant and Master today. No not from a ‘impoverished’ nation like India with myriad ‘Gods’. Similarly, in the past, not from a being born in a animal stall in an insignificant town like Bethlehem. Nor can they even begin to fathom why or how hours of meditation done by millions of people can change the world. I have met such people who even snear at the notion that it has any practical value. Because of that, this life it is near impossible they will ever understand the benefits of for instance Kriya Yoga.

Consequently you have Christian zealots pronouncing a half baked notion of spirituality affecting every aspect of their life and those around them, minimizing the capabilities of others who’s spiritual influence and contributions to social awareness and spiritual practices and understanding is way beyond the one dimensional consciousness of such people. Their social models reflecting such limited understanding and approaches to spiritual and social awareness based on one religion and it’s myriad creeds and dogmas. Thus we have people who make snap judgements based on indoctrinated information from gab, infra-wars and other sites that reflect such limited perspectives. And sudden proclamations about those of different views being  ‘idiots’ or ‘children’ that you or anyone else doesn’t have the patience to ‘help’. This type of attitude leads to patronizing others and increased ego with a lack of humility, which is the basis of all spiritual attributes in those we aspire to emulate. I have seen these views being used to justify the persecution of ‘weirdos’ by destroying their businesses, imprisonment with false accusations and stigmatizing others with different views that don’t reflect the norm into ‘ social outcasts’ of society. This is the influence and the danger of narratives created by a society that are accepted into a religious norm or political norm in other countries. It leads to labeling those who to do not fit the norm as having psychological problems that need to be addressed with various psychotropics and therapeutic techniques to to reintegrate or re-educate them into the prevailing mental influence of a sick society.

[guest587]

I've certainly called you some of those names but I don't fit into the description of these people you're describing, neither does Andrew Torba of Gab or Alex Jones of InfoWars. I actually find myself in agreement with some of the things you are saying but I don't take it upon myself to help you as you've generalized above. I've learned that's very foolish. I only hope you realize you aren't a victim. Sometimes it sounds like you choose to be. Alot of what you're describing is grossly exaggerated, and most things online equally so- by believing this you are perpetuating the very same limiting and isolating views, sickness if it were, that you speak against. I'm not saying YOU I'm saying anyone that chooses to make such assumptions. Be they Christian, Hindu, man or woman. Its better not to spend so much time and energy worrying about others especially based on limited assumptions.

Despite past experiences, some people will surprise you. I find it more liberating to apply compassion, forgiveness and to seek understanding through common ground. Not that we are always able to practice these qualities, it's obvious when our impulsive and egoic reflexes have won the battle in our minds. But we can help remind each other what's most important.
Despite someone I love calling the person I cherish and find most inspirational a false prophet- I do not isolate myself from her or assume she is stunted in her growth. I've seen her desired path lead to spiritual understanding touted by the very same master she's once condemned. I've seen animals lovingly run up to her and by the power of prayer she's revived an animal. She's receptive to me, and without my needing to try and prove anything about what is right or what is wrong- we are able to live, learn and love. She is very traditional with biblical scripture. But even you called her a Yogi when I shared a photo of her here.

I understand most westerners who are bound to old biblical tradition(and I think this majority falls with your generation or those before mine) they are moreso scared by what they don't understand. I've learned people who are scared can lash out in very aggressive and disappointing ways.
The thing about disappointments, I don't let it get in the way of living the life I choose. I choose not to give up, to continue seeking god in all and serving to the best of my ability- if I fall, I get back up. There will be more disappointments in this life and there will be even greater rewards. I have faith, I believe in life after death and I believe despite religious or political differences people deserve a chance. As long as there's people like us willing to give others a chance, we're doing the world a great service. The noise I disagree with becomes just that.

There are regular everyday people on gab who believe in one thing and one thing only, Love. To them, that's most important. They don't care who you are- they don't care if you're great or if you're low. All that matters to them is sharing goodness. What you're seeing and experiencing is definitely a reality, as well as what I'm seeing and experiencing. I stand by my original reply after you said you were happy for me. That is this, despite our differences we will arrive at the same place. I'm noticing a secret light language a unique phenomenon. Spirit is speaking through us, for us. I've been noticing it since finding your stink bug totem post. Are you seeing it? You will!
Brother we're going to be labeled no matter what we do. I hope you're finding ways to enjoy the ride.
Kind regards
PS, I just typed all this with swipe to text(one finger) from my phone. Wow... Getting tired, sorry for any typos!
    

[Jitendra Hydonus]

I've certainly called you some of those names but I don't fit into the description of these people you're describing, neither does Andrew Torba of Gab or Alex Jones of InfoWars. I actually find myself in agreement with some of the things you are saying but I don't take it upon myself to help you as you've generalized above. I've learned that's very foolish. I only hope you realize you aren't a victim. Sometimes it sounds like you choose to be. Alot of what you're describing is grossly exaggerated, and most things online equally so- by believing this you are perpetuating the very same limiting and isolating views, sickness if it were, that you speak against. I'm not saying YOU I'm saying anyone that chooses to make such assumptions. Be they Christian, Hindu, man or woman. Its better not to spend so much time and energy worrying about others especially based on limited assumptions.

Despite past experiences, some people will surprise you. I find it more liberating to apply compassion, forgiveness and to seek understanding through common ground. Not that we are always able to practice these qualities, it's obvious when our impulsive and egoic reflexes have won the battle in our minds. But we can help remind each other what's most important.
Despite someone I love calling the person I cherish and find most inspirational a false prophet- I do not isolate myself from her or assume she is stunted in her growth. I've seen her desired path lead to spiritual understanding touted by the very same master she's once condemned. I've seen animals lovingly run up to her and by the power of prayer she's revived an animal. She's receptive to me, and without my needing to try and prove anything about what is right or what is wrong- we are able to live, learn and love. She is very traditional with biblical scripture. But even you called her a Yogi when I shared a photo of her here.

I understand most westerners who are bound to old biblical tradition(and I think this majority falls with your generation or those before mine) they are moreso scared by what they don't understand. I've learned people who are scared can lash out in very aggressive and disappointing ways.
The thing about disappointments, I don't let it get in the way of living the life I choose. I choose not to give up, to continue seeking god in all and serving to the best of my ability- if I fall, I get back up. There will be more disappointments in this life and there will be even greater rewards. I have faith, I believe in life after death and I believe despite religious or political differences people deserve a chance. As long as there's people like us willing to give others a chance, we're doing the world a great service. The noise I disagree with becomes just that.

There are regular everyday people on gab who believe in one thing and one thing only, Love. To them, that's most important. They don't care who you are- they don't care if you're great or if you're low. All that matters to them is sharing goodness. What you're seeing and experiencing is definitely a reality, as well as what I'm seeing and experiencing. I stand by my original reply after you said you were happy for me. That is this, despite our differences we will arrive at the same place. I'm noticing a secret light language a unique phenomenon. Spirit is speaking through us, for us. I've been noticing it since finding your stink bug totem post. Are you seeing it? You will!
Brother we're going to be labeled no matter what we do. I hope you're finding ways to enjoy the ride.
Kind regards

Once bitten twice shy. Quite like Jesus saying to Judas; ‘You would betray me with a kiss?’  That kind of ‘love’ as you mentioned above…. I can do without. It has been a ride I would more readily forget and make sure I do not venture it again with such people. Their sense of ‘love’ can be shared with alligators and venomous snakes. Better them than me. No ‘prophets’ for me but rather trolls under a bridge crossing who delighted in turning over my apple cart and left me with nothing because of their malice against me for offending their cherished vision of life. I choose not to enable others to continually victimize this body and entity you know as Steve as I become the Jitendra you do not as yet recognize. They have no intentions to help implement their God’s words;

“For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.”

Jeremiah 29:11

I seek happiness in life and to give happiness to others to the extent i’m able. These people certainly have done everything in my life to do the very opposite.

[guest587]

"Gab is a First Amendment company which means we tolerate 'offensive' but legal speech.

We believe that a moderation policy which adheres to the First Amendment, thereby permitting offensive content to rise to the surface, is a valuable and necessary utility to society.

It allows unorthodox but correct views, such as the Wuhan Lab Origin Theory that was banned on Twitter and YouTube but permitted on Gab, to propagate.

It allows hateful ideas, such as anti-White CRT, to be exposed and subject to scrutiny and challenge. It also allows Americans, and others around the world, to enjoy the full measure of their human right to speak freely online.

Supporting the mission of freedom online means having the stomach to accept that people will say 'edgy and offensive' things." ~Andrew Torba

[guest587]

"Dear Gab Community,

We want to keep you informed about an important development involving Gab and its commitment to preserving the principles of free speech and open discourse. Our platform, which is based in the United States, has recently received a censorship demand from a foreign country – New Zealand. We feel it is our responsibility to share this news with you, as transparency is crucial in upholding the values we hold dear. As many of you already know we regularly turn down censorship demands from foreign governments including France, Germany, and the UK among others."
https://news.gab.com/2023/08/gab-stands-firm-against-censorship-demand-from-new-zealand-government/

[Jitendra Hydonus]

"Dear Gab Community,

We want to keep you informed about an important development involving Gab and its commitment to preserving the principles of free speech and open discourse. Our platform, which is based in the United States, has recently received a censorship demand from a foreign country – New Zealand. We feel it is our responsibility to share this news with you, as transparency is crucial in upholding the values we hold dear. As many of you already know we regularly turn down censorship demands from foreign governments including France, Germany, and the UK among others."

I think you could apply this comment to us as well. I undoubtedly feel censored by right wing people here where I presently live. And, hope to maintain an uncensored atmosphere here at the portal, for views as long as we have an interest in spiritual life and healing; thus the name of the site.

[guest587]

A little video as to what Andrew Torba is referring,
The American Journal by Harrison Smith
Video: Massively Dangerous Speech Law Goes Into Effect Today
https://banned.video/watch?id=64e902a97b9b5a3d762d1d65

"Greetings Gab Community,

Today, I want to address a matter of utmost importance – the European Union’s Digital Services Act (DSA) law, its implications, and our stance as a platform committed to protecting free speech. The law goes into effect starting today and Gab will not be complying.

Recent developments have brought this law to the forefront, as it seeks to reshape the landscape of social media regulation within the EU. This legislation, while introduced with the intention of curbing content that is already illegal, brings with it certain provisions that infringe upon the very essence of open dialogue and free speech.

This is another government censorship scheme like all the rest. If the EU thinks they can get an armored division on the ground and into our offices in Pennsylvania they’re welcome to try. Until that day we’re an American company, with no presence outside of the United States, operating a constitutionally protected business and we will continue to extend freedom to the entire world, as is our God-given and unassailable constitutional right.

Gab has always been a platform that champions unrestricted discourse, standing as a bastion for free speech in an increasingly regulated digital world. We firmly believe that the foundation of any society rests upon the ability to share different ideas, even those that may be controversial or challenging.

The DSA’s intention to penalize platforms for failing to address what they label as “misinformation” and “hate speech” raises concerns. We understand the importance of combating illegal content, but this should not come at the cost of stifling differing viewpoints. The risk of suppressing legitimate conversations looms large, and we cannot support measures that could potentially compromise the principles of free speech." -Andrew Torba
https://news.gab.com/2023/08/upholding-free-speech-amidst-the-eus-dsa-law/

Not so separate. If you didn't know it, banks and hospitals are denying people services in a supposed free nation for their religious beliefs. Should we be concerned??

[guest587]

A video response from Andrew,
https://gab.com/a/posts/110951224706175723/media/1
"We are the only social media platform not complying with these demands. Elon Musk of X(previously known as Twitter) is complying, Mark Zuckerberg of Facebook is complying- Gab is true home of free speech. We will not comply."

[guest587]

They're also coming after Rumble, which is not owned by Google or "Big Tech" monopolized interest:



It's a coordinated effort to reign in particular control paradigms as we shift into a more technologically integrated society.