Hello everybody, hey Steve, hello Into Blue.
I been gone a while on a bogus vacation of sorts, might as well jump into the deep end here goes.
I don't really know who your friend is but, if this slight nuesance (spelling?) is still going on the practical thing to do is to while still knitting the eyes to the correct position is to imagine yourself in your most beloved meditative state, soon... , my friend you will find yourself there, in the good place. Peace be with you my Bretheryn glad I could help, that'l be five million dollars, ha , just kidding.
By the way, what's up with the word bretheryn (this can't be the correct spelling... can it?). You'd think there would be a word to call us all girls hu guys.
Well, I'm thinking. Oh yeagh, I just remembered (by the way I am heterosexual) Valkyrie. If Tom Cruise can be a valkyrie then so can I.
I'll see you Valkyries later.
Sat Tat Om
It is good to have you back Godwolf. Nuisance? He (my friend) was just helping us as he often does. You don't find God by nodding at him and it is a bad practice to fall asleep while meditating with others because it takes down their vibration when they are trying to lift it. So we are all trying to find ways to help our meditation. Many people spend many years of their lives sleepitating and not meditating. This is just one more ego illusion that the spiritual aspirant can fall into and i have been guilty of it myself. What a waste of time! Better just to lay down and get some sleep or have some good friend tap you. That is what good friends are for...
When the eyes are level you are in normal thinking consiousness. When the eyes are raised you are lifting your consciousness. When they are lowered you fall into the the subconscious state more easily.
When we fall asleep we are losing our focus. The consciousness falls into a blank state or into a dream state. This has nothing to do with meditation. We may loose some physical consciousness but not consciousness in meditation. For in true meditation we are always aware. Even more aware than usual. It may feel natural to fall asleep. It may feel natural to do many things. Here we are speaking of the super natural. That which transcends the natural states. It is only natural because we have been accustumed to living in a delusive state so long. When we truly wake up these higher states become natural and what we experienced before become suffocating and unnatural.
Brethren? (religious brotherhood) Where did you read that? It is good concept.
Didn't see the movie Goldwolf. Must have been good.
Jai Guru Stevefalling asleep....
it not a bad thing to happen while meditating.
the point of meditation....is to withdraw senses from outside, to inside.....
aka...lose physical consciousness...and place it inner.
when body....falls asleep,,,all we are doing is losing focus on the physical or waking consciousness...and focusing on inner consciousness....or the inner consciousness'....sub and super.
there is nothing wrong with falling asleep....it is natural to do so...when we first start practicing meditation...altho...this should cease, the more one practices.
with experience...one , during meditation, should be able to move thru every consciousness...'awake'...
or 'in the knowing'....in awareness.....
i think.... ?

Love & (((Hugs)))
bn