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« Reply #30 on: Dec 22, 2009 12:27 am »





Nomaste Amorabolutus

i'm not sure that you are understanding what i am saying. Let us put it another way there is someone dying of starvation in the now right at this second of time. There is also someone being raped now or in these few minutes i am in the now. This will be true in your 'now' when you read this post.  Is there any consolation for them in your philosophy? There awarenes of the now is extremely painful. Would they want to be fully aware of that now? Would we want them to endure that suffering awareness? Your quote was: " I am never in the future, or in the past. I am and always will be now." So these people that are feeling these painful experiences are to be aware of them and be in the now? Wouldn't that add to the suffering? Can we be responsible if we are headed down the highway at nite and some one drives across the meridian with no lights on and hits us while we are in the now? Should we then practice being in the painful now as we sit there in agony and suffering from casualities? This now could be yours or mine at anytime. If we set foot in a car we must know this. If we breath in the 'now' a terrible catastrophy can be fall us from nature itself.

This is not the Cilvil war. This is the now. Some of these people are in the now and suffering is being thrust upon them. What consolation does your philosophy hold for those that are going thru this now? Should they be in the now and experience it to the fullest?

Steve Hydonus



Greetings Steve,

What you are speaking of is a tricky question to answer as you have broke off into suffering. I understand what you are saying that if you are having something bad happen to you one should take their mind out of it, and think of a happy time, or goto their happy place. That does not change the current situation, as much as you think about being somewhere else. That doesn't change the fact that you are sitting there in a terrible opportunity.

Suffering happens when you start to live out of the now. When you start to repeat that said situation in your head, and feel that it's gonna happen again. If we focus on those thoughts every time we step out, we will stop living our lives in happiness. We will become fearful, and in some rare cases we will start to dread ever leaving our house. When you expect it to happen again, or to not be fine you will start creating suffering. Being in the bad event isn't the suffering. Reliving it is the suffering.

If one is being raped, yes it's not a pleasant experience, and I understand why one would rather not be in that moment, and be somewhere else.

But when they focus somewhere else that moment is still happening. There is nothing than can do to change that fact. What happens in that moment is up to them.
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