hi steve! i was reading this thread from beginning to end so when i read
i think most of us realize over the years that as close as we r to what we r we still have so far to go. So much to learn...
it had me thinking of the old expression..... you can tell a child not to touch the stove because it will burn him/her but that doesn't mean the child will listen. we thrive on experience and after reading the debate between gurus and reading the poem shared by ding dong i kind of went off on my own tangent

hope all is well my friend! =)
This material experience is like that. We test our desires and r drawn to what intrigues us even though it is quite often not what gives us what we r really seeking. Eventually our needs and desires change and we r changed people seeking something very different then we originally planned. Further along the line we find that what we have been seeking we already have. We just sought it in the wrong places. The Masters say that when the fruit falls all seeking and growing is done. We always have had what we have been looking for.