Some have already decided what the value of these substances are, often without ever taking them or researching it at all. To those people, indeed, there is no conversation to be had and one must leave it at that. You haven't heard the last of these, though.
i've been there. Mescaline.. peyote etc.. It is worth it to do again but i'm working on liberation. You can't rely on material substances for liberation. We're talking about physical and biological reactions in contradistinction to spiritual realization.
