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« on: Jan 23, 2016 10:06 pm »

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It seems to me that it is nice to get to know one another better. It is very difficult for me to have administrators here on this forum without even being able to contact them and talk to them by phone. The main emphasis here is not business but rather spiritual affinity and divine friendship. i have seen people--even here--who seem to forget what the purpose is and engage in divisive activity. If we cannot agree to disagree it becomes a challenge. This issue goes beyond the current theme of this thread.

Yes Jeff

i appreciate our ability to contact one another.  Scott is not here very much anymore. But he will always be a great friend and he has  invested money in having this forum operate and when we have had technical issues he was there when that has happened. Others have left and new people arrive. It was nice having Brock as an administrator because he kept in touch with me from time to time. It would be nice if people would tell me when they invest their time or money in helping our forum so i can know the level of interest. It is fine to have a casual interest but i also would like to know when someone has served Spiritual Portal in ways that may not be obvious.

Eric has been here thru thick and thin and mccoy has been very helpful in unusual ways. One of which is to bring forums together and find common ground.

There are also people who have been very active at one time. They have left for personal reasons. Some of them i still am in contact with others are sadly... not in communication with me at this time. Such is life. We must sometimes let go of those we often still have loving memories and feelings towards.
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« Reply #1 on: Jan 24, 2016 06:22 pm »

Yes Jeff i have your number. In fact i called u last nite but the phone just rang and there was no voice mail. Your view here seems quite different then the view u held last time we talked. U had the view that we had a good thing going with SMF. This is an about face so i will most likely need to talk with u. Thanks.

Wonder what time you called? It's possible the phone was being used, call waiting sometimes is ignored. I have a message machine, although I hardly check it, looking at it now no messages (I like that).

My view still is that SMF is cheap so it's a good deal. However, it now seems that there is a potential for data loss. You get what you pay for. I don't believe the hosts behind SMF have the same backup and architecture such as a company like godaddy. Besides, there have been many times when the site simply does not respond, or is just not there. For me anyways. Still, it's cheap, right?




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« Reply #2 on: Jan 24, 2016 07:06 pm »

Also it does not appear to me that this site has an SSL certificate, for logging in. Unless I'm not seeing some kind of module used when logging in. If not, passwords are being transmitted in the clear, which can easily be stolen. It also appears yoganandaji and yogananda.net do not either, as many of these forums do not. I guess they figure if the admin password is accessed, it's no big deal.

Example costs for godaddy:

$10 for domain transfer.
$48 per year for hosting for 3 years
$55 for 3 years SSL certificate.

Not bad really, but more than what you pay now I think. Also this SMF forum would have to be ported to a different forum engine, whatever that may end up being. My preference is something in .NET, not the standard PHP that is used for most all these forums nowadays.

Thank You for investigating. i have had many challenges with the gallery section of our forum. i am currently discussing this with SMF.: One of these is Shannon's paintings mysteriously disappearing. Also limited space.
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« Reply #3 on: Jan 25, 2016 02:50 am »

And just to add my 10 cents...I agree with Shannon that SSL might be overkill but it wouldn't hurt if you want to pay extra. The SMF software looks to be built on ASP.NET not php. I assume you all aren't prepared to rebuild the software in php, so if you want to the SMF software the hosting plan will need to support running an ASP.NET application. Vbulletin, Shannon's site, is php software. I know what types of software these are because I have a chrome extension called 'BuiltWith' that tells you what kinds of things a site is built from.

(I have been learning web development for the past 2 years so it's funny to see y'all talking about all of this.) SpiritImage you are very knowledgable do you own a website?

Just wanted to say that Brock has talent here also. Really like his rainbow scene he put up here sometime ago. Would like to have that here again.
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« Reply #4 on: Jan 25, 2016 07:33 am »

Also I would add that I wouldn't plan on rebuilding. Godaddy hosting accepts most any server side language you want to run, .NET, PHP, Java, etc.,

It's all about money though in the end for most folks. That's usually the case.

If you want a forum with nice features, flexible (meaning you can add custom code without huge hassle), no ads, etc., it will not be free. Either keep SMF and host it elsewhere, or host it elsewhere and port the data to a new engine. Some of the nicer ones I've seen lately use XenForo, for example.

Or leave it here and meditate for the best. This board and others like it are really small potatoes, they get a handful of posts each day, if that. You have to weigh the ROI.

Is it necessary for us to have custom code? What advantages would it give us? What would be the cost? There is really no return on investment monetarily speaking. This Forum has to b looked at from a different perspective at this point.
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« Reply #5 on: Jan 25, 2016 07:51 am »

Is it necessary for us to have custom code? What advantages would it give us? What would be the cost? There is really no return on investment monetarily speaking. This Forum has to b looked at from a different perspective at this point.

No it's not necessary to have custom code. But in the future, what if you wanted to add something, and didn't want to pay another $$$ for it, or if you wanted 8 pics up top instead of 4, etc., When I speak of ROI in this context, I'm speaking about is it worth it to you, or me, or all the other users of the forum? If you are receiving something from this forum, how much is it worth to you to have certain features, or reliability, or ads removed, etc., If the investment is 100 a year, are you getting what you want or need, or would 200 a year give you more of what you want, but then is that affordable?
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« Reply #6 on: Jan 25, 2016 09:06 pm »

Yes Jeff i have your number. In fact i called u last nite but the phone just rang and there was no voice mail. Your view here seems quite different then the view u held last time we talked. U had the view that we had a good thing going with SMF. This is an about face so i will most likely need to talk with u. Thanks.

Wonder what time you called? It's possible the phone was being used, call waiting sometimes is ignored. I have a message machine, although I hardly check it, looking at it now no messages (I like that).


Called u at 10:52 Eastern time Saturday nite. That would b 7:52 Pacific (your time) Could not leave a message because the phone rang and rang but never went to voice mail. We will do it again! U r welcome to call at any time Jeff. Cheesy
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« Reply #7 on: Jan 25, 2016 09:59 pm »

Called u at 10:52 Eastern time Saturday nite. That would b 7:52 Pacific (your time) Could not leave a message because the phone rang and rang but never went to voice mail. We will do it again! U r welcome to call at any time Jeff. Cheesy

Yea well, if that happens just try again later. Because of the time zone, I'd have to call you before 8 my time since 11PM your time you're likely meditating, or other extra curricular activities.
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