Kundalini

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Has anybody heard of Gopi Krishna?
Last year I read something about kundalini awakening, which scared me, and I now have a book by Gopi Krishna called "Living with kundalini". He did the kriya the wrong way round, did not have a guru and nearly went insane, until he found out how to correct his mistake. He burnt badly in his spine. Scary.
But now he has the awakened Kundalini. He writes something very interesting, like kundalini awakening is a biological fate for all of us, eventually, like evolving to where we are now has been our fate. 
I have other books by him, not yet read.

Pentatonic.

Some people do not find it necessary to have a guru in my case I believe it has really helped if you read this link you may find this to be an understatement;

 http://musicmeditate.smfforfree.com/index.php/topic,514.msg2485.html#msg2485

This is one incident of the tremendous help of a guru that i have witnessed. I have also recieved tremendous help thru the gurus emissaries. In my case the SRF line of gurus and the monks and nuns of SRF but this also includes disciples of Yogananda and Amma. I recieved a tremendous awakening from being in the presence of Amma and have had advice from her and her monks/nuns as well. There is something else very significant; having friendship with those who have a true guru. Why? Because if they are receptive to the guru you can sense the help flowing out of such friends. I count several of the members of this forum in this category. You know who you are and how i am indebted to you. Let the Masters bless you as they have me. That is what I pray for....


Jitendra

[kingfisher111]

Neem Karoli Baba recommended to feed people and serve God as ways to raise Kundalini as well

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Has anybody heard of Gopi Krishna?
Last year I read something about kundalini awakening, which scared me, and I now have a book by Gopi Krishna called "Living with kundalini". He did the kriya the wrong way round, did not have a guru and nearly went insane, until he found out how to correct his mistake. He burnt badly in his spine. Scary.
But now he has the awakened Kundalini. He writes something very interesting, like kundalini awakening is a biological fate for all of us, eventually, like evolving to where we are now has been our fate. 
I have other books by him, not yet read.

Pentatonic.

Not familiar with this author Pentatonic. I have been practicing Kriya now for over 40 years to raise kundalini.... No bad side effects that i am aware of. I just find it a challenge to keep focused. Yes i do have gu r us who have helped tremendously over the years.

Jitendra

[KaylaLeigh]

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[guest88]

Hi Kayla. When I click the link it doesn't work but I was able to navigate to the right spot. I really like the penman idea of logging your experiences. I also agree that psychic abilities are organic. 

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Hi Kayla. When I click the link it doesn't work but I was able to navigate to the right spot. I really like the penman idea of logging your experiences. I also agree that psychic abilities are organic. 

Not sure what tricks u have up your sleeve. i get this message: server can't find link. We have another meditator with us.... 

[KaylaLeigh]

Thank you for letting me know. I am working towards fixing it!

[SpiritImage]

It sounds to me like raising Kundalini energy is exactly what kriya techniques are doing, although SRF doesn't really plainly state that, or I missed it.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

It sounds to me like raising Kundalini energy is exactly what kriya techniques are doing, although SRF doesn't really plainly state that, or I missed it.

From my experience of reading SRF material i would say u are right. i think that many spiritual groups use similar terms to designate the same thing. As u know the term kundalini is not used in the Bible. This does not mean that this energy was not mentioned--just with out that term. i believe that during Yoganandas' time here on earth kundalini and raising the energy in the spine was considered dangerous by many people. Not to even begin to mention the social belittlement of anything not fitting into normal clone life here in Cloneland.

Yogananda emphasized the safe use of Kundalini safe use thru kriya yoga and the guidance of a guru who could help the devotee avoid the pitfalls of misusing such a technique. Yogananda used many western terms to describe eastern life. He was already considered exotic and strange by most Americans. He did use American customs and terminology to get his message across. Amma and other gurus have come at a different time and there is more tolerance of other cultures in the states. Notice i say more tolerance... still not enough....but more tolerance. Amma has literally unabashedly brought her culture to the states whereas Yogananda adapted his spirituality and religion to western civilization and religion. Perhaps what you may have missed is cultural evolution which is what we are beginning to see as we move forward into the dwapara yuga. Most Americans, especially from the Christian community look at with suspicion: the practices of the east.

As a friend said this morning to me; "Hail to the God of Cloneland. Resistance is futile" Welcome to Cloneland. Let us clone more people into our image. Hail to Hiclone.

[SpiritImage]

not my quote,

"once Kundalini is awakened, it's likely that your life will conspire to create situations where you get to work through your karma at an accelerated rate."

Sounds right though.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

not my quote,

"once Kundalini is awakened, it's likely that your life will conspire to create situations where you get to work through your karma at an accelerated rate."

Sounds right though.

Nomaste SpiritImage

We are taught that regardless of whether Kundalini is awakened knowingly.....we r still roasting the seeds of karma thru the practice of kriya or similar techniques. The astral spine holds all the memories from all past life encounters and all the seeds of that karma lie there ready to be opened. When we bring this energy up down the spiritual spine through yoga or visualization, and at some point, through actual awareness we slowly burn out all the karma we have generated in this life and thousands of other lives as well. Otherwise we have to go thru many thousands and perhaps millions of years evolving on this earth plain through various incarnations here or similar planets.

i have had experiences with kundalini rising. They r truly inspiring and gives r practice quite a boost. They r a bit like proof in the practice. However even though we may have such experiences, usually we have long years ahead of us in the practice of meditation and spiritual disciplines. The experiences alone r not really a sign of spiritual progress so much as attitude and behavior changing as a result of sadhana (spiritual practice and discipline). If we can look back at our lives and see progress in our way of looking at the world, people around us and ourselves, i believe this is the strongest indication of spiritual progress.

There is much more emphasis on bringing energy up in down the spiritual spine and focusing with visualization on the chakras in Ammas iam technique and Babajis' Kriya technique (the second, third and fourth kriyas expanding the visualization on the chakras and energy flowing up the spine.) then the kundalini. i would say that all these spiritual exercises lead to this awakening.

Even an interest in such subjects show definite spiritual progress. But the dharma (duty) involved in sadhana is a daily and moment to moment practice that is a routine that most of us r only beginning to understand; how it affects every encounter we have and every moment of our lives in our unfolding awareness.

Sat Nam

[SpiritImage]

i believe that during Yoganandas' time here on earth kundalini and raising the energy in the spine was considered dangerous by many people.

Yogananda emphasized the safe use of Kundalini safe use thru kriya yoga and the guidance of a guru who could help the devotee avoid the pitfalls of misusing such a technique.

I was thinking about this, I have been reading here and there that awakening kundalini can be dangerous for some, depending on a lot of factors.

This would indicate to me that it would be fairly important that kriya should be given individualized, from a master, like Lahiri did. Seeing as how that doesn't seem feasible here in the west, SRF will grant access to the lessons via a phone call.

I'm not convinced that is safe for some.

[SpiritImage]

We are taught that regardless of whether Kundalini is awakened knowingly.....we r still roasting the seeds of karma thru the practice of kriya or similar techniques. The astral spine holds all the memories from all past life encounters and all the seeds of that karma lie there ready to be opened. When we bring this energy up down the spiritual spine through yoga or visualization, and at some point, through actual awareness we slowly burn out all the karma we have generated in this life and thousands of other lives as well. Otherwise we have to go thru many thousands and perhaps millions of years evolving on this earth plain through various incarnations here or similar planets.

i have had experiences with kundalini rising. They r truly inspiring and gives r practice quite a boost. They r a bit like proof in the practice. However even though we may have such experiences, usually we have long years ahead of us in the practice of meditation and spiritual disciplines. The experiences alone r not really a sign of spiritual progress so much as attitude and behavior changing as a result of sadhana (spiritual practice and discipline). If we can look back at our lives and see progress in our way of looking at the world, people around us and ourselves, i believe this is the strongest indication of spiritual progress.

There is much more emphasis on bringing energy up in down the spiritual spine and focusing with visualization on the chakras in Ammas iam technique and Babajis' Kriya technique (the second, third and fourth kriyas expanding the visualization on the chakras and energy flowing up the spine.) then the kundalini. i would say that all these spiritual exercises lead to this awakening.

Even an interest in such subjects show definite spiritual progress. But the dharma (duty) involved in sadhana is a daily and moment to moment practice that is a routine that most of us r only beginning to understand; how it affects every encounter we have and every moment of our lives in our unfolding awareness.

I have read that some folks claim that when they experience kundalini rising (not sure if it was thru a scientific method or it was spontaneous), they feel "orgasmic" feelings thru each chakra as it moves up the spine. Again PY doesn't talk this way, but does allude that the feeling is better than any physical feelings. I wonder if the former folks actually do feel that way, and they have awakened kundalini, or it has awakened on its own, and some kind of karma or attachment need to be worked out. This is one example where it could be a little dangerous, and maybe lead you the wrong way.

I haven't personally experienced the feeling quite like that, but I would say it is different and at times equally as powerful and satisfying. The problem with that I think is, that's when you get attached to a feeling, hard not to.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

I have read that some folks claim that when they experience kundalini rising (not sure if it was thru a scientific method or it was spontaneous), they feel "orgasmic" feelings thru each chakra as it moves up the spine. Again PY doesn't talk this way, but does allude that the feeling is better than any physical feelings. I wonder if the former folks actually do feel that way, and they have awakened kundalini, or it has awakened on its own, and some kind of karma or attachment need to be worked out. This is one example where it could be a little dangerous, and maybe lead you the wrong way.

I haven't personally experienced the feeling quite like that, but I would say it is different and at times equally as powerful and satisfying. The problem with that I think is, that's when you get attached to a feeling, hard not to.

There are some feelings that r good to b attached to because they r healthy and inspiring. They r helpful to spiritual growth. i would say that such feelings that r given to us by God r such feelings. There r a few people in our lives that have really made our lives special by their presence... i would put these feelings in such a category. However these r often bittersweet because these people do not have the staying power to overcome the hurtles with us. Yet occasionally we do meet people who remain friends for a lifetime.

If one ever has a strong spiritual experience it never leaves u. That experience transcends any experience you have on this earth. It is a shining lite as an example for your life and for everything you do, think and accomplish. You realize that you really have only tapped into the love and light of God. You realize how much you have yet to accomplish to be in that type of joy just one more time. You never forget it. That feeling is there as a reminder every day of your life. You will never give up the search for God again. Because you realize that without being in that state again your life will never be complete. Every person..every situation..every circumstance becomes a chance and a reason to find that lost love again and to never loose it even if it is a small reminder as this post is... it provides a door to open and take you back home to love. You realize who you really are. You r love and you must express it in every way you can so that it becomes a permanent presence in your life.

Jitendra

[SpiritImage]

Hmm, now what can be said about that?