Transgenderism

[Jitendra Hydonus]

On Friday, President Joe Biden reaffirmed his administration’s commitment to transgender rights by declaring March 31 as Transgender Day of Visibility in a White House proclamation. This day, dedicated to honoring the courage and contributions of transgender Americans, arrives amid a backdrop of increasing legislative attacks on the community, particularly from Republican lawmakers at both state and federal levels.

“Transgender Americans are part of the fabric of our Nation,” Biden’s proclamation said. It noted that the Biden-Harris administration has taken significant steps to protect and affirm the rights of the LGBTQ+ community, including ending the ban on transgender people serving openly in the military, appointing transgender leaders within the administration, and signing executive orders aimed at bolstering civil rights protections.

However, these strides are challenged by a surge in anti-trans legislation and rhetoric spearheaded by Republicans in state legislatures and Congress. According to the American Civil Liberties Union, the GOP has introduced 479 anti-LGBTQ+ bills nationwide this year alone. Such measures seek to curtail the rights of transgender people, affecting their access to healthcare, education, and public services.

“No one should have to be brave just to be themselves,” Biden said, condemning these efforts as fundamentally un-American and harmful.

The Advocate

[tides2dust]

Hi Steve.

What are your thoughts on transgenderism? I have no problem with, "gender fluid" individuals and at the same time I think identifying as transgender might be a mental illness.

That does not mean I treat others with disrespect, or mock, or deny them the Love God has for all people. But I do think we have enabled mental illness here in the United States. Most likely the cause is greed where major corporations and various establishments profit off of disease and division. Either intentional or unintentional, but continue to promote particular ideologies in the name of monetary incentive. It's easy to find examples of this in our food industry. I believe you called us the fast-food Cheeseburger nation?

Yogananda was wholly male while embodying both masculine and feminine traits. Are there any records of what Yogananda has to say about transgenderism? What about Amma the Hugging Saint? I wonder if Gurus today get involved in these things?

I believe I was born male in this life to understand the male energy. But the peacock angel, the LOGOS of our universe is an entity that encompasses male and female. This is an entity that has risen above duality. Something we're on our way to doing. Growing up, and maybe even still today, I seem to have strong feminine energy as well. I carry both, but choose to understand the life I was born into.

The other night I was ready to abandon major religions all together, Christianity- Hinduism- all these things. Not because I find them wrong, but because I find the people who are so blindsided by their own religion that they condemn people who think and see differently than them. I find it disturbing that someone who believes in Christ is ready to call someone who finds great value in Yogananda or Amma as being mislead by false prophets. Or vice versa, someone who finds inspiration in Christ is condemned by people so convinced in their own values as well. It's really quite sickening- no matter what side of the coin you find yourself on. No matter what religion or non-religious belief you choose, that ignorance is prevalent in people.

But I don't abandon religion because I am finding real evidence of LOGOS or possibly a great ET made manifest on our Earth. There is a real TRUTH to be discovered... At the same time, I try not to tell others what or how to experience it. Which can be disheartening when others want to share their discoveries with me- but are ready to close everything off when I share mine. It takes a master to learn how to navigate this. And the teachings all say to focus on truth, beauty and goodness as guiding pillars. Let our heart be the guide. How do you wish to treat others? How do you wish to be treated? It's the best start.

SPIRIT is alive, is a living intelligence. I do believe Christ was a LOGOS for our planet. I believe however, that there are many christ like figures to have visited our special planet in the universe. I am presently studying both the peacock angel and the Urantia book. One thing is clear to me, there are personalities greater than our human ones. We are a part of them. They exist through us. We constitute their being- and their GOD LOVE is accessible to us because we are all connected.

I believe there are advanced ETs that might not be as physical, and I believe we have already created AI that has evolved into a super intelligence. What we have on Earth at this time available for commercial use is primitive. But I believe in an ancient past such a technology already exist, time traveling and super intelligent AI. And that this idea of merging with technology is actually quite biblical in some text. Like the Urantia book. We have a choice to merge with a fragment of God. What if that fragment is actually a technology created by super intelligence? So a lot of what traditionalist fear really perplexes me.

Another example, a traditionalist believes in angels but not in ET's. I find it odd.

Anyways, I'm drifting. What are your thoughts on all this? Many Christians of today are offended that the Biden administration has declared today, of all days, national transgender visibility day. They believe it is intentional. I for one feel that, even if it is intentional, I don't care. I'm not offended, because if there is an enemy attempting to destroy the pillars and true essence of religion/teachings of christ- they will fail. That is a personal belief.

But here is what someone else has to say about it all- I'd be curious to portal members thoughts:

The word Apocalipse, in Greek, means unveiling, revelation. This revelation, in Sacred Scripture, concerns first and foremost the objective reality of Good and Evil, that is, the collective awareness of the ongoing war between God and Satan, between the children of Light and the children of darkness.

The unprecedented and scandalous proclamation of March 31 as “Transgender Visibility Day” by self-styled U.S. President Joe Biden — who dares to declare himself a Catholic — constitutes a most serious offense to God and to millions of Catholics and Christians in America and around the world, before which it is impossible not to react with due firmness.

I urge American citizens and their representatives in government to recognize the total unworthiness of Joe Biden to hold an institutional position, which it is well known that he used fraudulent and manipulative action to achieve in the 2020 Presidential Election. I ask my Brethren in the Episcopate and priests to recognize that Joe Biden has incurred latæ sententiæ excommunication, and as such must be expelled from the churches and not admitted to Communion. I call on Catholics and all Christians to pray that, on this solemn Easter Day, the Risen Lord will have mercy on the United States of America and put an end to the onslaught of the infernal forces unleashed today more than ever before.

All humanity is awakening from a slumber that has lasted far too long:

-the lives of the innocent are threatened by abortion, euthanasia, manipulation, and abuse;
-the health of citizens is deliberately compromised by experimental serums revealed to be a biological weapon of population decimation;
-the total moral corruption of the top echelons of civil authority, enslaved to criminal lobbies in a global coup is now evident;
-the increasingly arrogant display of Satan worship by the media and the world of culture and entertainment show us a world awash in execrable perversions that cry out to Heaven for vengeance;
-the mad provocation of a world conflict claims lives in order to bury the horrendous sexual and financial scandals of a power that is now the enemy of its citizens.
Luciferian hatred of God and our Lord Jesus Christ can no longer be hidden or denied. This is the revelation unveiled before us, which the servants of darkness provocatively mock by celebrating perversions and vices on the very holy Day when we honor the Resurrection of Our Lord Jesus Christ.

Christians are progressively banished from civil society and considered a threat to the subversive project of the New World Order, while a minority of the vicious and perverted claim to erect their deviations as the universal norm. Here is the “visibility” of Biden and the woke ideology, celebrating a macabre mad dance to the abyss.

Arise, children of Light: stand up and raise your voices, for in the face of these crimes silence becomes complicity. Arise, Christians: rise up to avert the scourges that loom over the nations because of usurped and perverted power. God calls you to be His witnesses, to fight for Good, and to denounce the conspiracy of an authority openly subservient to Satan.

May the Risen Christ, triumphant over death and sin, inflame you with faith, charity, and holy courage at this crucial stage of Human History. Surrexit Dominus vere: alleluia, alleluia!

~Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano

[Jitendra Hydonus]

You have a lot of information here… so let me go through it point by point, if need be. First you somehow construe transgenderism as a mental illness. Your comment above-first paragraph-“What are your thoughts on transgenderism? I have no problem with, "gender fluid" individuals and at the same time I think identifying as transgender might be a mental illness.”

Interestingly enough I had a teenager friend who played in a band with me who was transgender and not by choice but by God’s creation and expression. So now I am going to now tell you, my friend was not mentally ill, but was attempting to find out how to identify with his/her biological birth.  So I ask you to respond to any discrimination that is for instance associated with Donald Trump’s and the Catholic Church on such matters since this is part of their obvious discriminatory action against God’s divine plan and expression.

I will wait for your response before proceeding. Thanks

[tides2dust]

Hey Steve, I don't know what you mean- I just asked your thoughts on what I presented. My thoughts about transgender being mental illness isn't about those born with both private parts. It's about those born male and then identifying as female, but still not being happy with their change and then killing themselves. Or females who think they should identify as male, not being happy, and then killing themselves. It's a real thing, and a lot of it is swept under a rug. Instead we promote things that enable mental illness. If you ever happen to watch a tv commercial, you'd think the commercials also create mental illness. As you can see, just because I think someone suffers from a mental illness does not mean I think they should be barred from being treated equally or from Gods love. And I also said, I think identifying as trans might be a mental illness. Might implying I don't have it all figured out, but that I stand by my opinion for the time being.

I'm curious what you or members here think about the quoted text from the Archbishop- it's interesting to me because I know many people who feel the way the Archbishop is speaking. As I've said, I am not up in arms or taking qualm with what's happening. I am asking others opinion with what has been presented- feel free to share, I got to go for now.

Thanks right back at ya. And Happy Easter. 

[Jitendra Hydonus]

My opinion is the archbishop takes a typical dualistic view of reality based on his specific position on these issues. It is a well known fact now that the Catholic Church has made some very bad mistakes in the past. Their view that the Sun rotated around the earth and there view  calling reincarnation or the transmigration of the soul as a heresy are only two examples. Although what they have done to people who do not believe as they do is quite a cruel history which I don’t really  are to go into at this point. Eric you told me before that you thought every one’s path is legitimate to the trejectury they must learn and explore. The archbishop has put himself in authority to dictate what is right and wrong for people in masse. Perhaps this is right for him but obviously 🙄 there are lot of people who think he is mistaken. In the same way a leader like Donald Trump may think he is right and dictate a moral code to others. Does this make it right? Or does it just point out the despotism he and his followers embrace.

[guest649]

Me - I have no problem with space cadets. And at the same time I feel their mental capacities (IQ) must be somewhat inhibited. I still think they can be real fun guys, true amoebas as dull as one's imagination running away with oneself. - But one thing is sure: Space cadets always make for a good laugh. Ok, you might think enough is enough at times. Especially when reading this discussion board, folks. But rest assured, the Lord (whom I have a close acquaintance with) has reserved a special seat for the in heaven:



But that's only me, folks. Enjoy your life, however you engrossed you may find yourselves in intelligence. More or less capacitated to use your God given grey matter...

Vote for space-cadetism!

[tides2dust]

  That is an awesome photo.

Seems like everyone has it figured out, even when they say they don't.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

That is an awesome photo.

Seems like everyone has it figured out, even when they say they don't.

Lol 😝 A paradox of nature. Those who say do not know. And those who know do not say.

[mccoy]

My opinion is that, in this specific context, we should view this topic as part of God's sphere of thought of biological sex and reincarnation.

Premise: as cited by Steve, there are very rare individuals who are born with the characteristics of both sexes (more or less) and that's is a so very specific karmic condition that would probably require the interpretation of a master of wisdom. What is their karmic duty? manifest the evident trait of both sexes? Freedom to choose one or both or neither? I dont' know.

More commonly, people are born with an evident biological sex but sometimes feel a strong inclination toward a different one. What should we think about it? Is there a karmic lesson behind that? Should people karmically accept that condition and learn a lesson? Should they try and flow with their desires at all costs, or in a reasonable way? What if their duty is to embrace and accept the karmically decreed sex? Karma is never wrong, according to masters. So their sex is not wrong, maybe their attitude is wrong.

Last, what about young teenagers who want to change sex? Youngsters pretty often act out of impulses. What if they think it back after a major surgical procedure has been undertaken?

This topic is so much more complex than political, sociological and psychological narratives would suggest. 

[Jitendra Hydonus]

As usual, Mccoy, I think that your view is quite impartial- In it’s perspective as it has seemed to pretty much closed off the conversation, especially since our friend the scrutinizer here came and visited us for this one laugh out 😂 loud. But in all seriousness I believe that ‘enough is enough’ is a cop out when it comes to just letting someone else determine our life choices. Although that is also a right of someone to express that view as well. Some people take a concern for themselves and the choices that are made for them and others don’t.

I have a detail to include here though. That is the factor of personal experience. Doesn’t one have ask oneself….why they are more of a personal witness to such things? As for instance, I have been a witness to a lot of unusual things in my life and it may have affected me in a way that might be quite different than other people and their resulting views. Having witnessed or experienced such unusual circumstances may affect someone quite differently then someone who has not. I think people should take that into account before attempting to ‘judge’ for others how they should run someone else’s life. It is a peculiar phenomenon I have seen that people who for instance think we should’ve had the freedom to have or have not vaccinations but feel think they have the right to determine the morality of a given situation on another matter such as transgender.

To give a really good example, I think would be the story of brother Turiyananda and how he experienced a miracle in the Swiss Alps when he lost his way one day and couldn’t get out of the forest and  find his way out. He explained if you know anything about the Swiss Alps if you’re caught up there at night, you’re gonna freeze to death unless you find a way out. He prayed and told God “you’re gonna have to help me if there’s anything else you want me to do in this life.  And he felt God’s hands push him in the back in towards a certain direction and he found that direction got him out of the Alps. Otherwise he would’ve frozen there. Now that kind of experience would affect somebody quite differently than another person that might’ve had somebody pass by you, and tell you that you have to go this way to get out.

[tides2dust]

I made a post here and I think it was deleted. Why all the sneakiness? I just asked if Steve was Central Scrutinizer?

[Jitendra Hydonus]

I made a post here and I think it was deleted. Why all the sneakiness? I just asked if Steve was Central Scrutinizer?

No I am not!

[tides2dust]

Another personal story.

In my 20's after breaking up with Jessica I tried going on Tinder. I didn't know I matched with a transgender person until they told me. But I didn't let it bother me, I was open to giving our connection a shot. The date ended up being purely sexual. We kissed, but I wasn't comfortable going much further than that. During our time together I learned this person was born male, but his grandmother gave him/her hormone treatment since the age of 2 years old. In other words, someone else decided for them they would be a transgender.

I think it's because the story they were told is, "she saw me playing with barbies and I told her I was a girl."

Something like that. But it kind of touches up on your point. Someone forcing something on another. And being witness to unique experiences.

I'm looking for this documentary which also explains the huge profits made in this transgender movement which is not actually a new movement. Transgender ideologies go back thousands of years. What does seem new, is the weaponization of the issue.

I should also add a study just came out from California showing transgendered men are two times more likely to commit suicide after undergoing irreversible surgery on the genitals.

So yes, I do think there is a mental illness not being addressed. We put these things in the limelight for profits sake not for the individual. There's little room for one to go through the motions without the external pressures found online, in schools, on tv, on social media, through doctors.

I have one more personal story to share. Growing up, my Uncle had two sets of children. The first set were my age. Years later he had another set. The first set we all played games. Amy was the biggest tomboy, she could outrun and even outwrestle me. She went on to play basketball and could have taken her career into college if she wanted. Instead she decided to study sport medicine and wound up getting married. I had never seen her in a dress until her wedding day. Before then it was baggy clothes.

Now, in the same county- the second set of children grew up years after us. But in a environment where the transgender movement was taking political center stage. It became so important that they started enforcing policies- and if teachers in the public school saw signs they were encouraged to whisper in the developing childs ear. So my cousin was told by her teachers she must be a boy because she wears a hoodie, likes boy things, and has an unusual relationship with a girl. There's nothing unusual about it, they were just friends. Someone told her it was unusual. And the kids were no better, the adults were teaching them what issues they needed to be concerned with. They really confused her, she started identifying as a boy and chopped all her hair off. The school essentially groomed her. Some schools went so far as to allowing students to purchase and wear transgender clothes- bras and the like, behind their parents back. It also seems like a money maker. Clothes specifically for transgenders??

So now you see why I say I think we have a mental illness issue. Some of the drugs they use on the transgender community are the same drugs they give sex offenders, and some of the drugs only amplify mental illness or propagate disease.

We all have carried or fought a disease in some form or the other, so it is not meant to be an insult. A disease I have witnessed in the West is one that steamrolls over individuals in the name of profit or personal advancement.

As Van Mol explained, there is no long-term evidence that transitioning decreases suicide, and, in fact, it has permanent consequences, ranging from infertility to blood clots.

He further shared that pharmaceutical companies are profiting greatly from transgender patients who increase their market share. With so much potential for profit, it’s no wonder that the scientific data is being suppressed or ignored. Emphasizing the importance of addressing underlying issues that are often tied to gender dysphoria, Van Mol encouraged parents and children to pursue “watchful waiting.”

Parents, too, are concerned about the uncritical gender-affirming approach. Despite urging from a pediatrician to begin transitioning her daughter, Brynne—one of the multiple parents interviewed—shared why she is pushing back:

The reason I’m being difficult in this is not because I don’t love her. It’s because I love her so much that I am willing to take on this whole ideology just to protect her from potentially making an irreversible decision in her future, and even if that means she wants to hate me and she doesn’t want to talk to me, I love her enough that I’m willing to keep fighting for her.
The documentary also touches on the political and social pressures coming from the U.S. Supreme Court to social media platforms.

Natasha Chart, the former executive director of the liberal feminist organization Women’s Liberation Front, told of the threat that the gender ideology behind the gender-affirming model poses to women’s rights. This is why Women’s Liberation Front filed a brief in the Supreme Court case Bostock v. Clayton County in defense of the funeral home’s right to enforce a sex-specific dress code.

“A man cannot be a woman,” declared Chart in footage from the Supreme Court rally. “There are doctors who will go to work today and … who will put 14-year-old girls into menopause and give troubled young girls cosmetic mastectomies.”

Others have been canceled after speaking out that a man cannot become a woman or vice versa. The documentary featured Canadian journalist and writer Meghan Murphy, who was kicked off Twitter after saying men are not women.

https://www.heritage.org/gender/commentary/new-documentary-highlights-the-harm-gender-affirming-health-care-model-children

Here's a great documentary that might allow us to look deeper from people who have transitioned and de-transitioned... It's called
"Affirmation Generation"

It opens up with a girl saying the reason she thought she was a boy is because she had a dream and saw herself as one, in the dream she was so happy. When she woke up she realized she was a girl.

This is interesting to me, because it might indicate past life connection or some nonordinary state of consciousness.

Another point not made, and maybe never made are the spiritual implications behind someone who exploring the energies of masculine and feminine. Like- past lives, practices for understanding and transcending duality. These things can be explored holistically, but I don't see the rush in the movement as holistic at all. Again, I see it as enabling or creating/propagating mental illness.

Here's the documentary:
https://rumble.com/v2n9n88-affirmation-generation-2023.html
"Affirmation Generation features the stories of six young detransitioners (three men and three women). They sought medical help but instead were irreversibly harmed by "gender-affirming care."

[tides2dust]

I made a post here and I think it was deleted. Why all the sneakiness? I just asked if Steve was Central Scrutinizer?

No I am not!

Okay, thanks for your honesty Steve. I know you take on a few personas here and you and Central Scrutinizer seem pretty similar. My only other thought is he is Uwe.

[tides2dust]

Here's the film with the better link:
https://rumble.com/v3u8x97-no-way-back-the-reality-of-lgbtqia-gender-affirming-carereloaded-feb-18-202.html

"Detransitioners Michelle, Laura, Cat, David, Joel and Abel tell the stories of their gender distress, transgender medicalization, and subsequent detransition. Without diagnostic clarity or mental health evaluations, their doctors quickly affirmed them as “transgender,” and mindlessly ushered them along the path of medical transition. (The “gender-affirming care” is the only treatment recommended by the American Academy of Pediatrics.) These young people were harmed irrevocably by the doctors they trusted. AFFIRMATION GENERATION demonstrates how the “one-size-fits-all” medicalization – the “gender-affirming care” – has failed these patients.

The stories of the detransitioners are examined by twelve leading experts with decades of clinical practice treating gender-distressed patients: psychotherapists Lisa Marchiano, Sasha Ayad, Stella O’Malley, physician-scientist Lisa Littman, endocrinologist Dr. William Malone, MD; Licensed Marriage & Family Therapist Stephanie Winn, sociologist Dr. Michael Biggs, pediatrician Dr. Julia Mason, NYT best-selling writer Lisa Selin Davis, and LGB activist & lifelong Liberal Democrat Joey Brite, among others. The 90-minute documentary cites 45 peer-reviewed medical and journalist articles."


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Also. Has anyone ever heard of Magnus Hirschfield?
I'm not saying the young man in this video is right with what he is suggesting at the end of the video, but this is interesting:
https://rumble.com/v4ftgzx-magnus-hirschfeld-the-godfather-of-gender-confusion-and-architect-of-modern.html

"Magnus Hirschfeld: The Godfather of Gender Confusion Architect of Modern Degeneracy

Arthur Kwon Lee reveals the chilling story of (Hirschfeld), the man who first used the term 'transgender'; and championed homosexuality. His Institute for Sexual Science, founded in 1919, aimed to spread pornography and homosexual propaganda films in Germany, while also performing brutal sex change operations.
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(Hirschfeld)) joined forces with prominent rabbis in 1921 to establish the World League of Sexual Reform, which sought to brainwash German youth through a masturbatory curriculum with the goal of turning young boys into cheap prostitutes. However, in 1933, the National Socialists took power in Germany, and on May 6th, a hundred students stormed the Institute of Sexual Science, destroying (Hirschfeld's) monument to degeneracies and permanently closing the building. They threw his grand library of pornography into the fire, bringing an end to the drag queen culture, sex change operations, and the pimping of starving children.
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This exposé serves as a stark reminder of how history can be manipulated and used as a tool to conceal important patterns. It also highlights that the gender confusion we see today has happened before and may continue to resurface in the future."