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« on: May 14, 2023 11:38 pm »

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« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2023 06:51 am »

Hey Steve,

I'm unable to watch the video right now but wonder if you'd provide some context for me so I might comment.

Do you have any personal experience with the title, "the moment between wakefulness and sleeping?"

I am speaking with someone on another forum about sleep paralysis.

Are you familiar?
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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2023 07:03 am »

Hey Steve,

I'm unable to watch the video right now but wonder if you'd provide some context for me so I might comment.

Do you have any personal experience with the title, "the moment between wakefulness and sleeping?"

I am speaking with someone on another forum about sleep paralysis.

Are you familiar?

Eric the video is only about two minutes long. Have I had experience with the moment between waking and sleeping? Yes, but quite frankly, I honestly believe you are the one to speak on such matters. My experiences are limited and I have related them in the past here on the portal. When I heard Sadh Guru talk about this I thought of you. I have had more experiences with being aware of dreams while meditating. It is an interesting experience, because you begin to recognize through meditation that dreams can be conscious. I suppose you would say that this kind of turns the subject around here. And SadhGuru did not mention it, in this short video. But instead of being conscious of sleeping, we also can be conscious of dreams during meditation, when the subconscious is more active as we are exposed to different layers of consciousness in meditation.

Sleep paralysis is something I have not experienced since childhood. Like you, I may have had some experience with studying states of consciousness in a past life. Because as a child I had some nightmares and sleep paralysis. I was stressed out about it and remember have a conversation with my lower self. I told myself before I went to sleep 😴 that if I would have a nightmare I would remind myself that I would not be dreaming. And sure enough when I started having such dreams, I had this awareness that I did not want to slip into such dream states and this voice in my head would say; “You are only dreaming. Wake up so you do not have to have such a dream.” But you have just made me aware of something here. If I could do that at one time, why couldn’t I wake myself when even an unpleasant dream is happening. Or take it a step further; why can’t we wake ourselves up from unpleasant situations when we appear to be awake? We can by meditating more and practicing the presence when we are not able to meditate.
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« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2023 07:15 am »

Recently I had the privilege of diving into this with Casey Claar...

I do not believe the subconscious is something that resides merely in our physical brain. I believe it resides outside of us, around us, and we are a part of it.

What we are consciously aware of pales in comparison to the life of the subconscious.

Though I can't watch the video you've sent now, I should be able to soon enough.

But I believe all is One. And that the angels reside possibly within the superconscious and particular UFO's/ET's or experiences like dejavu, OBE's and other spiritual phenomenon reside in the subconscious field. 
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« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2023 07:33 am »

Recently I had the privilege of diving into this with Casey Claar...

I do not believe the subconscious is something that resides merely in our physical brain. I believe it resides outside of us, around us, and we are a part of it.

What we are consciously aware of pales in comparison to the life of the subconscious.

Though I can't watch the video you've sent now, I should be able to soon enough.

But I believe all is One. And that the angels reside possibly within the superconscious and particular UFO's/ET's or experiences like dejavu, OBE's and other spiritual phenomenon reside in the subconscious field. 

Yea I think I see where you are going with this. Just because we cannot verify dejavu, OBE’s and UFO’s does not mean they do not exist, only that they exist as dimensions not so easily duplicated by the senses. At times though more than one person can experience such states simultaneously with someone else, or even multiple people. That is why we can say that these experiences can be supported by multiple factors and sources.
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« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2023 02:55 pm »

It is my belief none exist save the Self and our individualization is more a temporary aspect of Being.
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« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2023 09:19 pm »

I rewatched the video forgetting I've seen it already. It's great, thanks for the reminder- I tried practicing this just one night and on that night I ended up having an OBE.

If you believe we are more than our bodies and have had psychic experiences called out of body, remote viewing, even sensing someone's presence moments before their arrival- then you acknowledge that consciousness can be experienced outside the viewing lens of our bodies and physical organ we call the brain.

I think it's fair to say we are both these bodies and still, we are something more.

I will once again quote one of my favorite expressions by Anandamayi Ma- God Bless Her Beautiful Soul and Realization

"...though the dance of creation change around me in the hall of eternity, I shall be the same"
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