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« Reply #30 on: Dec 03, 2022 03:00 pm »

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I have a question for you here. When you have a true OBE do you temporarily transcend physical desires? It seems like you would see your body as a sort of dead lifeless garment left behind.
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« Reply #31 on: Dec 03, 2022 03:35 pm »

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Not sure how to answer that. You use words like, "true OBE" and I can tell you- from my OBE's that there is still a body- and sometimes there is still sensual experiences.
And then, at other times, there is not a body but more like visions. "Formless awareness"

Other times I am roaming through the eyes of others.

Most of my OBE's I am not hungry... But I've read of people who experience taste and smell. I am told smelling things come later.

I recall an OBE with my "astral body" stumbling around my bedroom just trying to stand up. It was difficult, like I was walking around like a drunkard. Things were more black and white with a static haze. I considered this a true OBE.

Then I recall an OBE of gliding downstairs. I finally learned how to phase through my door and windows. But in reality you only need to concentrate hard enough to "appear" where you want to.

I have also seen interesting colors and unique visuals without a "body" and I also consider these true OBE's.

Most of the times my will is not strong enough, the more I try to exert it the more I've descended into non-lucid dreams. Like trying to climb past the stars. I can't seem to do it. Only the one time, in 2008 did the experience occur so effortlessly. That's because there were greater forces at play initiating me at a dream level...

I've shared an "astral shell" with another consciousness who chose the name Abigail. In fact she came into my astral body- and I remember feeling her personality in unique ways. Suddenly letters would fly across empty space like she was learning what I knew in regards to language. I felt her giggling and I remember crawling out my bedroom to greet my dogs, it was what she wanted to do- before we stood up and glided. We were mesmerized by the "construct" of an astral body. It may have only been something the mind needed in order to understand the experience... Because by the end of it all we were in my backyard and she was teaching me OM- as a vibratory state responsible for all manifestation, like being born from a single line of vibration creating this 3D experience. As she chanted OM this construct of an astral body would lift up and we were slowly stretching out- joyously, and collapsing and/or vacuuming into "nothing."

So... Ideas of an astral body aren't always necessary to experience an OBE... There are still senses and sensations...

And sometimes not so easily understood... Like- during a conscious OBE... Somehow two and a half hours passed with what felt like a 5 minute experience... There was no sound- just an orb of light descending into my body. I think reflecting on that, that orb was an aspect of my self. That "black and white" environment was more a gray space...

It's not an easy question, because... we are trying to compare to the way we understand our senses and identify with the immediate physical body in waking state. The trick being we think our awareness is limited to/anchored to this physical body alone.
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« Reply #32 on: Dec 03, 2022 04:57 pm »

You spent a lot of time and energy on the last post. It will take sometime to grok if I am able to connect on that level and platform. Thanks for trying to express what takes place in many OBE’s.
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