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« on: Feb 25, 2014 04:55 am »

I couldn't get through all that text, but I can't agree with those who say that sex is only for procreation. That seems almost blasphemous. Sex is sacred, a form of worship, a celebration of love and intimacy. That's why it should not be abused or handled cheaply. Not because of some Puritan concepts. The concept of sinfulness associated with sex produces perverse attitudes deep in the mind. Sex does bring strong attachment with is its trap. But when honored and respected, sexuality is spiritual. That's my take.

Plus humans and I think dolphins are said to be the only ones who enjoy sex. I think sex should be spiritualized through love and intimacy and mutual appreciation. Of course one should not make it an end in itself, but a springboard into spiritual awareness.

I would like to see a sacred sexuality section on the forum; but then I'm aleeady too lazy to read them all now.
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« Reply #1 on: Feb 27, 2014 10:48 pm »

I couldn't get through all that text, but I can't agree with those who say that sex is only for procreation. That seems almost blasphemous. Sex is sacred, a form of worship, a celebration of love and intimacy. That's why it should not be abused or handled cheaply. Not because of some Puritan concepts. The concept of sinfulness associated with sex produces perverse attitudes deep in the mind. Sex does bring strong attachment with is its trap. But when honored and respected, sexuality is spiritual. That's my take.

Plus humans and I think dolphins are said to be the only ones who enjoy sex. I think sex should be spiritualized through love and intimacy and mutual appreciation. Of course one should not make it an end in itself, but a springboard into spiritual awareness.

I would like to see a sacred sexuality section on the forum; but then I'm already too lazy to read them all now.

Brock

Your idea stuck to me and I realized that this is really a vast subject that is quite part of our spiritual growth and expression. SEXUALITY certainly is not a subject that can be brushed under the bed or denied in our physical expression in life. Those who have transcended food, sexuality and living conditions are few and in the meantime we live with something we can either find dread or beauty in: A physical function that has many dimensions and forms of expression in love and human warmth in our lives. Sexuality; its expression in love and non- expression has taught me tremendous spiritual lessons in my life.

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« Reply #2 on: Jan 15, 2015 06:14 am »

This sexual desire in its normal state makes man quite free from all disturbing lusts, and operates on the organism (awaking a wish for appeasement) only infrequently.  Here again experiment shows that this desire, like all other desires, is always normal in individuals who lead a natural life as mentioned~Sri Yukteswar


As you can see this infrequent appeasement that Sri Yukteswar describes is not answered by HOW it is appeased. So far I have not read one of the Gurus reply to that. So it is seems obvious that it would be up to the discretion of the individual.

As a student of Psychology and noting the danger of repression of natural instincts that our guru speaks of himself i believe that like eating, eliminating and sleeping;
the sexual instinct is one of the last things to go and can be used for many useful purposes as eating and sleeping can be also. Most of us on the spiritual path have started to refine our natural instincts as we move closer to a spiritual expression in everything.

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« Reply #3 on: Jan 17, 2015 01:07 am »

Sexual instinct is able to change the course of thoughts. As simple as that. I noticed it clearly today when a surge of hormones in the bloodstream (natural surge, I'm not taking anything) spawned lusty thoughts in my mind out of nowhere.

I wonder about the monks, probably most of them have naturally low levels of blood testosterone, whereas some of'em may have applied brute force and cruelty towards one's body.

I agree that sacred sexuality is a means to spiritualize otherwise lusty thoughts.
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« Reply #4 on: Jan 17, 2015 11:09 am »

Sexual instinct is able to change the course of thoughts. As simple as that. I noticed it clearly today when a surge of hormones in the bloodstream (natural surge, I'm not taking anything) spawned lusty thoughts in my mind out of nowhere.

I wonder about the monks, probably most of them have naturally low levels of blood testosterone, whereas some of'em may have applied brute force and cruelty towards one's body.

I agree that sacred sexuality is a means to spiritualize otherwise lusty thoughts.

This is an ongoing issue i have dealt with all my life and still do not have the answers. Although i am coming to some understanding. i thought i would respond to your text rather then go into a long talk.

Each of us has our own individual way of dealing with our sexuality and 'surge of hormones' as you describe it; Some more moral and some less and often that approach is often dictated by what means we have of release or sexual transmutation from our environment and from within. Being around monks and nuns most of my life i have also seen many of them leave the monastic life because of this issue.

i also have found that the sex instinct has changed the course of my thoughts dramatically and i have a much different  look at life and people because of those thoughts. i would say that i have become much much more tolerant over the years and have recognized that morality can be very different for people based on their instinct and spiritual approach to life. Some of these insights may be more prevalent for you as well since you are experiencing a Jupiter transit to your 8th house of sexuality and values held with other people as well as a Pluto transit to your natal Saturn in the first house this transit alone is quite a factor in changing our attitudes about self an our inhibitions.

i think of you often while practicing looking at the spiritual eye. i am sure this is a helpful factor in redirection of energies. God gave us quite a mountain of natural instincts to overcome when we were put in these human forms. Let us be kind to ourselves as we find our way back from where we came.

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« Reply #5 on: Jun 03, 2015 07:38 pm »

.... God gave us quite a mountain of natural instincts to overcome when we were put in these human forms. Let us be kind to ourselves as we find our way back from where we came.
Jitendra

We get back to balance, sometimes even harder to achieve than extremes
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« Reply #6 on: Jun 05, 2015 07:42 am »

.... God gave us quite a mountain of natural instincts to overcome when we were put in these human forms. Let us be kind to ourselves as we find our way back from where we came.
Jitendra

We get back to balance, sometimes even harder to achieve than extremes

Perhaps this is because what was a balance at one time is no longer balance at another time. It is difficult  to recognize just how much we cause our own difficult progress with restless activities.
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« Reply #7 on: Nov 21, 2019 08:43 pm »

Not sure if anyone is interested in this subject but an interesting realization came to me recently. During meditation we seek to lose ourselves and enter a state beyond our body. I think that romance can be a state of losing ourselves into a relationship with someone else... whether it is a person, nature, God, or an art.
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« Reply #8 on: Apr 06, 2020 12:41 am »

I don't relate to most people's description of Sex.  I like Brock's, who started this thread 6 years ago...

It took me 37 years to find a partner who was able to communicate in the energetic realm, and as Consciousness, not their body. 

The energy was so intense we when would just talk, that both of our bodies would be flooded with Divine Light, she would fall to the floor, miles away, we would often become totally silent.  She would orgasm without any sexual touching, just from our words and energy, something she had never experienced before.

I've felt this potential with ever girl I've ever loved romantically, but all of them were extremely afraid of this kind of connection.  They all seemed to prefer more carnal, physical expressions of sexuality.

I wonder if I will ever find another person to experience what I have to offer, who has the same flowing through them?

Why is this world so focused on money, over transcendent experience?

The merging of Love and Sex and God and Self, her and I experienced was not nearly as important to her as having her bills paid by a man who she said has no spiritual awareness.... who didn't even turn her on, she said... who she didn't relate to mentally, she said...

It is so hard not to get attached to such experiences... when you and your lover are in pure bliss for hours... minds and bodies dissolved into Absolute Consciousness... not loving one another as bodies or people, but as God/Goddess/Love/Self

It's a miracle that such a thing is even possible...

It's a tragedy that so few know this is possible, and so sad that so many girls I know have not wanted to see who their deepest Self is with a partner... maybe wait 10,000 more lifetimes....

Maybe it's most tragic that I expect anything... my mind's attachment, judgement, analysis, "need to feel right"....

God is everything.  Self is in everything.

Even mediocrity.

Even in settling for less joy, bliss and spiritual awareness...

It's all perfect

Even feeling sad

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« Reply #9 on: Apr 06, 2020 12:05 pm »

"This is Alpha Centauri, our neighboring star," Milner said in a news conference yesterday (April 12). "But in space, neighboring does not mean very near. Alpha Centauri is over 4 light-years away […] that's 25 trillion miles. And the problem is, space travel as we know it is slow. If [humanity's fastest-moving spacecraft] Voyager had left our planet when humans first left Africa, travelling at 11 miles a second, it would be arriving at Alpha Centauri just about now."  [Alpha Centauri: Earth's Neighboring Star System (Infographic)]

The brightest star in the nite sky is Sirius a mere 50.62 trillion mi away.

https://www.space.com/32560-alpha-centauri-what-we-know.html

I believe it is important to get a feeling of just how big this universe is and just how expansive the consciousness of God is. If we can begin to do that-just begin to do that-we can get a perspective of why our relationships and the time between them are often extended to broaden our perspective.
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« Reply #10 on: Apr 07, 2020 10:26 am »

i am thinking now about sense lures and transcendent realities... typing here not to boast but for contemplation.

my purest moments where bliss is concerned were felt in the spine. a type of peaceful and sometimes orgasmic electrification that took place within. i was able to experience this free from dependency of any person outside myself.

then there were special moments that were not affected by time or space.
hmm.

...even the seemingly mundane carries the wonder of god. i have found that both contentment and self-pity have denied me the privilege of experiencing life in this way.

...thinking more on sacred sexuality, it would seem these experiences happen to show you what is accessible by acting out love and service. to treat sex in a way that is 'sacred' and experience its potentials is one such window for viewing all life in a similar manner.

the alchemy of total transformation means letting go ideas of the self. hmm. 

 
 
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« Reply #11 on: Apr 16, 2020 12:01 am »

i am thinking now about sense lures and transcendent realities... typing here not to boast but for contemplation.

Transcendent Realities become the lures for Spiritual Seekers... "how do I get my next fix of Kundalini transformation?"  or Sacred Sexual experience...

"That feeling when.... no one was there to feel it"

I wrote this on Facebook the other day... I realized from this experience I had with Em, that the Sacred cannot be "added", it is all Grace.  There were these transcendental moments of seeing each other as God/Goddess or being in Love with Love Itself, not the body-mind... However, I noticed all of this disappeared during a peak experience. this is a temporary Samadhi perhaps, I notice a strangeness about all of these lures... imagining there is a greater "Transcendent Experience" to be had with another or by one's Self in Meditation... Of course, there is... but for the greatest Transcenence, Who Is There to Witness It?



the alchemy of total transformation means letting go ideas of the self.

Exactly...

It's all Life Life-ing Life
Love Loving Love
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