Donald Trump a testament of ego and a lack of spiritual understanding.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

I'm not a clairvoyant so I cannot see what is going to be the direction American society will take now, or the outcome of this new presidency.

But I saw the direction taken by last presidency and it was very, very weird. Contrary to commonsense. It was a rapid decline of an empire into a science-fictional dystopic world.

I cannot stand it when reason and common sense are overtaken by ideology. This was happening in America and Italy/Europe as well.

I'm not a priori against any political parties, but when they become the champions of irrationality, I must take distance, wide distance.
 

We all reason to the tune of our own misconceptions. And our rationale mirrors our predetermined outlooks and experiences. What you ‘can’t stand’ is what you are facing. And the experiences I differ with I face on a daily basis. It is easy to say that what differs with you is irrational. But what of those who experience your ideas as irrational?

The similarities we share out weigh the differences, so we continue our dialogue. I find that a comforting formula of coexistence and do not require an agreement. It is only those who have found they could not tolerate differences with our views who left us. And those who could not tolerate the outcome of the election in 2000 that now have their voice heard. Let us see the outcome of their resistance to that election this time around, since now they were not met with the same resistance and violence they propagated. I’m ok 🙂 with that. Let them learn in a different way. We all will eventually will find our path merges on our journey homeward towards the divine. Bless all those whose souls seek liberation. And may we draw others to that ultimate path.

[mccoy]

Steve, I admire your stoicism to me expressing views so opposite to yours. It also goes the other way around, when I listen to your points.

[mccoy]

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[Jitendra Hydonus]

Mccoy your last entry has no relation to the subject I have made in this thread that i can see. So I answered a response to your last entry under Tulsi Gabbard…. where it seems to belong. We have strayed far from the topic of the thread as far as I can tell.

[mccoy]

Mccoy your last entry has no relation to the subject I have made in this thread that i can see. So I answered a response to your last entry under Tulsi Gabbard…. where it seems to belong. We have strayed far from the topic of the thread as far as I can tell.

You are right, I'm going to move the OT posts in the other thread

[Jitendra Hydonus]

Thanks Mccoy, I’m adding this concern about Donald Trump;

Trump’s promises to use the justice system to punish his perceived enemies and help his allies after he takes office Jan. 20. His picks for attorney general, Pam Bondi, and for FBI director, Kash Patel, have urged retribution against Trump’s political adversaries and critics. I’ve always thought that his actions and comments reflect an attitude of retribution against his so called enemies.

Washington Post

[mccoy]

Trump’s promises to use the justice system to punish his perceived enemies and help his allies after he takes office Jan. 20. His picks for attorney general, Pam Bondi, and for FBI director, Kash Patel, have urged retribution against Trump’s political adversaries and critics. I’ve always thought that his actions and comments reflect an attitude of retribution against his so called enemies.

Again, reasoning on something that is not happening now. Happening in the future? What will happen?

As far as I understood (and that may be wrong) Trump's retribution will be to fire those who were hostile to him. Excuse me, but for a man repeatedly compared to Hitler, that sounds not impressive at all. In some views, people have been boycotting him and exhibited an excessively hostile attitude (and actions).

Hitler would have killed them in the night and had them disappear. Just firing them, if this is the case, is something gMAhatma Gandhi would have done.

Besides, pragmatically speaking, keeping them would make no sense, they would obstruct the government's schedule.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

It is not a matter of ‘keeping them’ that has to ‘make sense’ . It is rather a matter  of who replaces them, which is important. If you hire people whose agenda is to get even and intentionally imprison or destroy the reputation of others there is an accounting for it. And that is the intention of the likes of Donald Trump. It is a pattern he has used all his life. He has stiffed others in business deals and used opportunistic methods to destroy the reputation of those he has stepped on. We do not have to look at the future to know his past. We know that Donald Trump has made the rich 🤑 so rich that they control the real-estate and the means of production in the United States and to make simple statements like ‘ I don’t understand the tax system in the United States does not lead to any practical solutions to the poverty in this country and the extreme inequality of the economic division that Donald Trump is responsible for. It is not a future scenario but rather a reality of his past actions and present consequences and conditions.

Would the Self Realization Fellowship have Rajasi in charge of its economic development if he had six corporate bankruptcies? Should the American government even consider having such a person running the business of the United States?? Does this make any practical sense? What business would hire a person for their economic development, interests and planning with such a reputation?

Let us look at the life of Adolph Hitler since you keep bringing him up in our conversations. And perhaps you have noticed i’ve dropped the Fuhrer notion but still believe it is applicable to a man who has slandered the reputation of so many other statesmen and women in this country. And given the absolute power that Adolph Hitler was given do I think Donald Trump is capable of such crimes? I subscribe to the idea that if a man glorifies such dictators as Trump has, he deserves no place in American public life. If he were not encouraged by the ignorance of the public, he would not have been able to commit the crimes he did. That is the problem we face in the United States today. In fact people like Adolph Hitler and Mussolini had some good plans and ideas for their citizens otherwise Paramahansa Yogananda would have not made good comments about their original intentions. The public itself must take some responsibility for the mental illness that they encourage by supporting such eventual actions. And we can see in Donald Trump the same pattern of retribution and a power hungry appetite that encouraged Adolph Hitler to take the measures he did in Donald Trump today. The point is we don’t need to wait and see what he will do next like Chamberlain did with Hitler in Europe. Let us as a people recognize the pattern of spiritual and mental decline that for instance Trumps niece has recognized before it gets so out of control that it destroys a nation, and encourages other nations to do the same.

https://www.thoughtco.com/donald-trump-business-bankruptcies-4152019

Trump’s promises to use the justice system to punish his perceived enemies and help his allies after he takes office Jan. 20. His picks for attorney general, Pam Bondi, and for FBI director, Kash Patel, have urged retribution against Trump’s political adversaries and critics. I’ve always thought that his actions and comments reflect an attitude of retribution against his so called enemies.

Again, reasoning on something that is not happening now. Happening in the future? What will happen?

As far as I understood (and that may be wrong) Trump's retribution will be to fire those who were hostile to him. Excuse me, but for a man repeatedly compared to Hitler, that sounds not impressive at all. In some views, people have been boycotting him and exhibited an excessively hostile attitude (and actions).

Hitler would have killed them in the night and had them disappear. Just firing them, if this is the case, is something gMAhatma Gandhi would have done.

Besides, pragmatically speaking, keeping them would make no sense, they would obstruct the government's schedule.
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[mccoy]

I subscribe to the idea that if a man glorifies such dictators as Trump has, he deserves no place in American public life.

The 'glorification' part is hearsay from some disgruntled former aid of Mr. Trump who chose to discredit him, apparently.
We have no official records of such presumed glorification.
To me, and to many others, like a few dozen million American citizens, it sounds more like another bullet in the mud-slinging gun.

[Jitendra Hydonus]

I subscribe to the idea that if a man glorifies such dictators as Trump has, he deserves no place in American public life.

The 'glorification' part is hearsay from some disgruntled former aid of Mr. Trump who chose to discredit him, apparently.
We have no official records of such presumed glorification.
To me, and to many others, like a few dozen million American citizens, it sounds more like another bullet in the mud-slinging gun.

Mccoy you think I have an obsession about Trump and a karmic relationship with him? HBY? Some people think the world revolves around them and not the other way around.

https://youtu.be/rlRCFbWN_TY?si=ME7i7iTCrEsGSNHa

https://youtu.be/QxXK9rVHP_k?si=26M4p815jHwnNWa3

[mccoy]

Steve, if you pardon me, I'm answering in installments. 1st answer on the first video posted, and thanks for providing some real evidence and not hearsay.

It cannot be said he glorified any dictators. He said they are smart. Matter of fact statements. Pragmatically. Know thy enemy. They are not dumb, they must be dealt in accordance with their ability to rule tyrannically hundreds of million of persons. We, the westerners, must be smart because they are smart. Do not underestimate them. I subscribe all of the above which is the true message Trump wanted to convey. Of course his adversaries wanted to construe those statements in a way to discredit him. They call the statements 'praise' or 'glorification'. Of course. it's part of the dishonest political game. This strategy didn't pay though, Mr. Trump in the end won, the law of karma in action.

Someone else construed Mr. Trump's words as I did. Below, I'm pasting one of the comments. Everything must be taken in its context. Otherwise we should say that even Yogananda was a fan of Hitler. But we know well that this is true only in the very limited context of pre-war social order in Germany and the positive things the Fuhrer was able to achieve, especially so winning over widespread atheistic communism. Yogananda sure did not praise what happened afterward, the killings, the genocide.

He's just stating facts, they are smart, but made horrible decisions devoted to their own rotten actions and goals

[mccoy]

I watched the video, Steve good choice, short vids can be watched soon.

Senator Sanders made a point, but...

By now, it is clear that President Trump can say apparently absurd things. Whatever comes to his mind, he speaks out. He's thinking that those guys are tough and talented, in their deranged ways, he says it.

But again, I see them as statements, not praise, and surely not glorification.


We also know, as we discussed before, Trump calls Um Jung a 'sick puppy' in another occasion. This is clearly not a praise and is what came in his weird mind at the moment.

Since we are in the presence of such a personality, which exhibits unfavourable and favourable traits (the latter: no hypocrisy), then we must consider such aspect when dealing with Mr. Trump's affirmation.

Of course, Senator Sanders knew the above well, but everything is good to defame rivals in this deranged game of politics.

The context, rigorously, was that of negotiations for denuclearization and Mr. Trump was doing his job. What was the outcome? Less missile launches. So, beyond the words, the actions apparently had some positive effects.

A comment from the Youtube video:

To those complaining: Bernie made clear that work to denuclearize NK is a good thing. Trump praising Kim in these ways, by contrast, is silliness, and likely not necessary to getting a peace deal.
All that said...when isn't Trump saying something incredibly absurd?